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bladder problem, parkinson patient
My father Aged 76 (height 5'5' , weight 70) is suffering with the following:Main Problem:
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1. Irritating bladder: Even after emptying his bladder fully, with in half an hour he feels the urge to urinate. But mostly
there will be no urine - but he feels pain/ache in the bladder/abdomen as if it is full of urine.
He suffers like that for 2-3 hours till his bladder is filled to some extent (say atleast 100-200ml)
then passes the urine.
2. Severe burning sensation in the urethra most of the time - many antibiotic courses have not helped
Other Problems:
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3. Bed ridden due to Known parkinsonism since 15 years, on allopathic medication for parkinson. Parkinson started
after he broke his thigh bone and surgery done on it and bed rest for 6 months. Even the bone is not joined
properly.
4. Severe cataract in both eyes, alsmost blind. Doctors refused to operate because of parkinsons
5. Had a prostate surgery (laperoscopic) for BPH 2 years ago and then this irritable bladder started.
6. Has the frequent urine problem since a long time even before parkinson started - he is afraid
to go to a new place because of this.
7. Severe Constipation, uses ayurvedic laxatives daily
8. Most of the time there ear pain & sticky and smelly discharge from both the ears
-- Non Diabetic
-- Desires Sweets
-- Tongue : Red, now most of the time Cracked
-- Thirst : excessive
-- Current BP: 130/90 ( under BP tablets, but no major heart issues found in the tests so far
except sclerotic aortic valve)
-- What exactly is happening ? Feeling of 'urine coming & could not hold any more'
-- How do you feel ? Need to urinate immediately. SOme times he is in such a great pain, he says
'get me some poison, dying is better than this urine pain'
Please note that he says that because of the problem, but he is very much afraid of
death.
-- One situation that had a big effect on you ? 1. Met with an accident in 15 years ago and bedridden
2. Hospitalized for urine block due to prostate enlargement and later
operated for it
-- current medicine you are taking : Levodopa/carbidopa for Parkinson, Minipress for BP
-- family back ground : Lot of difficulties since birth, lost mother in infancy, neglected
-- Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatientÂ…and so.. on and how you are peculiar from other
person, public speaking or not , you can describe all the detail about behavior, love and affection. :
: Very talkative, wants to discuss with own problems with every one (to the extent of boring)
timid, always afraid of others, worried
-- Aggravation (increases-time, season,) : Problem is very high between 4am - 2 PM and less in other times
-- Amelioration (Decreases) : HOT FOMENTATION around the abodomen and pelvic region will reduce the pain.
Can any one, kindly , analyse the case and suggest a gentle remedy atleast to solve his irritating bladder?
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 on 2007-09-18
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Dear Nag,
It is definitely too serious for remote treatment via forum. I'm very sorry to disappoint you like that but it would be misleading, potentially harmful and quite immoral if someone here made you believe he or she can cure him. It is impossible via forum, however it definitely is possible via natural, gentle therapies.
Wishing you the best,
It is definitely too serious for remote treatment via forum. I'm very sorry to disappoint you like that but it would be misleading, potentially harmful and quite immoral if someone here made you believe he or she can cure him. It is impossible via forum, however it definitely is possible via natural, gentle therapies.
Wishing you the best,
Astra2012 last decade
Hi Astra2012, you are right , his case is complicated.
I just posted here for any suggestion to solve atleast his neurological bladder - this is what is the most troublesome now. ( We know that parkinson can not be cured). I thought that some homeo drug can help him to take care of his irritating baldder and pain while urinating.
By the way, what are the natural therapies you are referring? Can you provide some info?
Thanks
Nag
I just posted here for any suggestion to solve atleast his neurological bladder - this is what is the most troublesome now. ( We know that parkinson can not be cured). I thought that some homeo drug can help him to take care of his irritating baldder and pain while urinating.
By the way, what are the natural therapies you are referring? Can you provide some info?
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
The medicine is being suggested purely on a trial basis. It may or may not work.
Get Berberis Vulgaris mother tincture. Mix about 5 drops in 30ml. of water and give as a dose.
You can give three doses in a day, morning, afternoon and night.
Use for three days and report.
Murthy
Get Berberis Vulgaris mother tincture. Mix about 5 drops in 30ml. of water and give as a dose.
You can give three doses in a day, morning, afternoon and night.
Use for three days and report.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Thanks for the suggestion. Sorry for a dumb question - what potency should i ask for? or is it enough if i ask mother tincture?
Thanks
Nag
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
Thank you Murthy.
That compassion will eat us one day - I also feel very sorry for this man, so long after medical 'care'.
Dear Nag. You know wrong-Parkinson have been cured - and so it is curable. Unfortunately most people count on 'magic bullet' some drug that cures, which is not there of course.You might want to read: Anything can be healed' by Martin Brofman
As to natural therapies he might be able to do some tapping for himself as in EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique)
official site with free manual
http://www.emofree.com/
free videos so you'll know the practical side
http://www.tapping.com/
It is ridiculously simple but I know it works (although it is so simple it is hard to believe. but maybe it is what he needs).
That compassion will eat us one day - I also feel very sorry for this man, so long after medical 'care'.
Dear Nag. You know wrong-Parkinson have been cured - and so it is curable. Unfortunately most people count on 'magic bullet' some drug that cures, which is not there of course.You might want to read: Anything can be healed' by Martin Brofman
As to natural therapies he might be able to do some tapping for himself as in EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique)
official site with free manual
http://www.emofree.com/
free videos so you'll know the practical side
http://www.tapping.com/
It is ridiculously simple but I know it works (although it is so simple it is hard to believe. but maybe it is what he needs).
Astra2012 last decade
Hi astra2012, i am already using EFT. I bought the DVD sets including the DVD sets for Serious diseses which includes parkinson too. But i did not get any success on him since 6 months. How ever it worked for me. May there are some emotions hidden somewhere in my dad which are not going!
chiru71 last decade
Hi Mr Murthy,
I have given Berberis Vulgaris for the past 3 days and there is no change (either positive / negative).
Please suggest whether i should continue / stop?
Thanks
Nag
I have given Berberis Vulgaris for the past 3 days and there is no change (either positive / negative).
Please suggest whether i should continue / stop?
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
See whether this matches his condition.
Equisetum: If cystitis is accompanied by dull but distressing pain and a feeling of fullness in the bladder, even after urinating, this remedy may be helpful. Urging and discomfort are more intense when the bladder has recently been emptied, improving over time as the bladder become more full.
Murthy
Equisetum: If cystitis is accompanied by dull but distressing pain and a feeling of fullness in the bladder, even after urinating, this remedy may be helpful. Urging and discomfort are more intense when the bladder has recently been emptied, improving over time as the bladder become more full.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I am not sure of what this cystitius is. But he has pain and fullness of bladder. He has urging even after emptying and it reduces a little after.
Few more symptoms which i failed to inform in the initial post:
1. Some times he waits for 4-5 hours with the bedpan, expecting urine and with a lot of pain in the abdomen. Hot fomentaton relives a bit
2. His symptoms are more prominent between 1 AM and 4 AM (generally he takes his parkinson drugs then and some relief is there.) and again between 10AM - 3 PM
3. He does not sleep in the nights for the Urine pain , sleeps in the early hours and day time.
4. Even after the BPH surgery, he still says that 'Urine tried to come , but turned around and went back' (in his words.)
Thanks
Nag
Few more symptoms which i failed to inform in the initial post:
1. Some times he waits for 4-5 hours with the bedpan, expecting urine and with a lot of pain in the abdomen. Hot fomentaton relives a bit
2. His symptoms are more prominent between 1 AM and 4 AM (generally he takes his parkinson drugs then and some relief is there.) and again between 10AM - 3 PM
3. He does not sleep in the nights for the Urine pain , sleeps in the early hours and day time.
4. Even after the BPH surgery, he still says that 'Urine tried to come , but turned around and went back' (in his words.)
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
Hi Nag, you know EFT much better than I do-I'm very impressed with it after only the basics... His troubles started 15 years ago so he needs to remember what was going on at that time, not now. His emotions before his accident. He can do the tapping himself if the emotions are too personal.
Warm Poultice of the comfrey root, applied to fracture - even
if after awhile, might halp him.
check equisttum
Hello Murthy,
When I hear about burning pains relieved by hot applications I'm always thinking about arsenicum (although it doesn't seem prominent in urinary problems... ) Will check it in Murphy.
Warm Poultice of the comfrey root, applied to fracture - even
if after awhile, might halp him.
check equisttum
Hello Murthy,
When I hear about burning pains relieved by hot applications I'm always thinking about arsenicum (although it doesn't seem prominent in urinary problems... ) Will check it in Murphy.
Astra2012 last decade
let's see if I understand right:
1. up until 15 years ago he was basically healthy, right?
2. then, 15 years ago he had an accident, broke his femur (tigh bone), was operated for it (they set it?do you know what they did and why it did not work?)- was bedridden for that fracture, and during that time doctors diagnosed him with Parkinson. (what symptoms he had?)
3. 2 years ago he was operated for bening enlargement of prostate and after that surgery his urinary problems started, right? Or did they start before and the surgery just changed nothing.
somewhere he devloped cattaract and high bp.
(acc. to energy psychol. etc before the accident he must have felt some insecurity about money, home, job or had some conflicts with his mother/siblings. Whatever-he may tap on it.
chronic illness may also btring some advantages and his subconsc.mind may hold to it-tap on it too)
symptoms now:
1. burning pain in urethra (? you are sure?), relieved by hot fom. to his abdomen (?where there is no pain?) and in pelvic area (in second post the pain is in abdomen, where?)
worse (?) you gave different times in posts
the pain is there all the time, right? It is not relieved by urination?
2. urging to urinate that starts about half an hour after emptying the bladder
3. ear pain (both ears, always?) and smelly sticky discharge (describe it)
1. up until 15 years ago he was basically healthy, right?
2. then, 15 years ago he had an accident, broke his femur (tigh bone), was operated for it (they set it?do you know what they did and why it did not work?)- was bedridden for that fracture, and during that time doctors diagnosed him with Parkinson. (what symptoms he had?)
3. 2 years ago he was operated for bening enlargement of prostate and after that surgery his urinary problems started, right? Or did they start before and the surgery just changed nothing.
somewhere he devloped cattaract and high bp.
(acc. to energy psychol. etc before the accident he must have felt some insecurity about money, home, job or had some conflicts with his mother/siblings. Whatever-he may tap on it.
chronic illness may also btring some advantages and his subconsc.mind may hold to it-tap on it too)
symptoms now:
1. burning pain in urethra (? you are sure?), relieved by hot fom. to his abdomen (?where there is no pain?) and in pelvic area (in second post the pain is in abdomen, where?)
worse (?) you gave different times in posts
the pain is there all the time, right? It is not relieved by urination?
2. urging to urinate that starts about half an hour after emptying the bladder
3. ear pain (both ears, always?) and smelly sticky discharge (describe it)
Astra2012 last decade
Hello Chiru,
It is difficult to attempt this kind of a case through the net.
He is also taking a number of allopathic and ayurvedic meds...(not sure if homeo meds will work fast coz of that).
However...will suggest the following:
1. Nux Vomica 200 for two consective nights to make way for other meds to work.
2. Causticum 200 morning and evening for three consective days. (If aggravation occurs at any stage ....stop).
Third med will need to be given later to tone up his system.
Post feed back.
Pankaj Varma
It is difficult to attempt this kind of a case through the net.
He is also taking a number of allopathic and ayurvedic meds...(not sure if homeo meds will work fast coz of that).
However...will suggest the following:
1. Nux Vomica 200 for two consective nights to make way for other meds to work.
2. Causticum 200 morning and evening for three consective days. (If aggravation occurs at any stage ....stop).
Third med will need to be given later to tone up his system.
Post feed back.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hi Pankaj
We have delayed giving the recommended drugs to my father since he is also using ayurvedic drugs. I gave the medicines last week (he stopped taking ayurvedic medicines one month ago. Now only on allopathic for parkinson)
I gave him Nux 200 for 2 nights and Causticum for 3 days as recommeded.
Observations:
1. After Nux , burning sensation while urinating reduced to half. No changes in bladded control.
2. While giving Causticum, there is some improvement in his bladder control and the retention came down and he is able to pass urine with improved freedom , some 25% improvement.
However the problems came back after 2 days of stopping causticum (as prescribed i gave him one for 3 days , 2 doses per day)
No new problems came up.
Please suggest
Thanks
Nag
We have delayed giving the recommended drugs to my father since he is also using ayurvedic drugs. I gave the medicines last week (he stopped taking ayurvedic medicines one month ago. Now only on allopathic for parkinson)
I gave him Nux 200 for 2 nights and Causticum for 3 days as recommeded.
Observations:
1. After Nux , burning sensation while urinating reduced to half. No changes in bladded control.
2. While giving Causticum, there is some improvement in his bladder control and the retention came down and he is able to pass urine with improved freedom , some 25% improvement.
However the problems came back after 2 days of stopping causticum (as prescribed i gave him one for 3 days , 2 doses per day)
No new problems came up.
Please suggest
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
chiru71 last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hi Mr Pankaj Varma,
I have given him causticum 200 again for 3 doses. This time it has not at all helped him.
Also one important charecterstic of him is that he wakes up by 2 , even if he is on a mild sleeping pill. He sleeps again at 6 AM after his parkinson drugs start working.
Please review and help.
Thanks
Nag
I have given him causticum 200 again for 3 doses. This time it has not at all helped him.
Also one important charecterstic of him is that he wakes up by 2 , even if he is on a mild sleeping pill. He sleeps again at 6 AM after his parkinson drugs start working.
Please review and help.
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
Hi Mr Pankaj Varma,
I have given him causticum 200 again for 3 doses. This time it has not at all helped him.
Also one important charecterstic of him is that he wakes up by 2 , even if he is on a mild sleeping pill. He sleeps again at 6 AM after his parkinson drugs start working.
Please review and help.
Thanks
Nag
I have given him causticum 200 again for 3 doses. This time it has not at all helped him.
Also one important charecterstic of him is that he wakes up by 2 , even if he is on a mild sleeping pill. He sleeps again at 6 AM after his parkinson drugs start working.
Please review and help.
Thanks
Nag
chiru71 last decade
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