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Hunger pangs even after eating fully.

I have been suffering from the problem of feeling empty and hungry despite eating fully and regularly. Infact just after eating there is a feeling of hollow empty feeling in the stomach which grows into real hunger soon. I am getting treatment for acute GERD for long but no rrelief in this context.I saw that one member here carmelisa (posting on 15/3/2006) had exactly the same problem and seems to have got relief from Nux Vomica 200c. Kind I get any suggesstion in this matter.
  jeegs on 2007-12-04
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Patient ID: Sex: Age: Nature of work: Habits:

Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

1. Describe your main suffering?

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst? Describe the sensation in your own words.

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?

6. Which time of the day you are worst?

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same? Example- time, temperature, pressure, rubbing, washing, eating, tight clothing etc.

8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?

9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?

10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
Weeping, talking to one self etc?

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?

14. How is your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?

20. Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings? How are you different from others?

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?

22. What major diseases are running in your family?

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.
(For Females)
24. If your menstrual cycles are not normal, please describe the irregularities, like pains, moods, flow type, clots etc.

25. What major diseases have you had in your life and when. Please write them in a chronological manner.
rishimba last decade
Sex: Male, Age: 41, Engineer.

ans in chronological order:
1. I often have stomach upsets which was diagonised as GERD grade II. However besides stomach upset I always get a heavy feeling and sometimes and often these days experience great discomfort while talking. The stomach muscles seem to contract and even the chest region. Most importantly i have this constant hunger pangs when i feel hungry immidiately after even after eating. recently detected with H pyroli and complted 14 days course of triple antibiotice yesteday.
2. I have mild asthma.
3. No tensions as i am a very happy go lucky chap with lots of friends.
4.at worst I feel lots of discomfort while talking as all muscles seems to contract and feel hungry or empty throughout.
5. The stomach poroblem started almost 5 years back but started getting worse over the years as now i have long spells of discomfort. initially medicines would give propmt relief.
6. No definite time. It just happens. Ofcourse food habits also made some difference to the stomach problem but the hunger pangs just comes and stays and goes..
7. no specific time
8.No relation
9.Mild agreeable but lately slightly anxious. thunderstorm no effect.no. no. no. very friendly with friends & wife
11. feras is that the problem might get worse over the years
12.rich foods with sweet tooth. enjoy eating a lot
13 Normal
14. Feel hungry when the problem is there. when fine appetite ok
15. toooo spicy and oily
16. not much sweat
17. good bowel but sometimes loose
18 good sleep.
19. sexual desire but due to medications cant perform much
20. I feel I have some nervous tension problem as i get pains ans slight tremors in peripheral areas. did MRI of whole body & Nerve conduction test. ok
21. All alopathy like ganatone,raparzole, equrex,antihistamines, anti depressants etc
22. No major disease. only mom had asthma
23. Slim and small built
24. In 1984 had a major fit sort of an attack while in college and was hospitalised for few months. thereafter my nervers are quite weak as my hand has slight tremors and cant do major execercise. I love sports and used to play lot of football, badminton, cricket.

Hope to get some solutions.
jeegs last decade
iodium 30c one dose daily for five days j k mohla
akshaymohl last decade
you seem to be a phosphorus patient.

please take PHOSPHORUS 200C three doses on a single day at 4 to 6 hours gap in empty stomach.

come back after 15 days.

if you feel the remedy has helped you to some extent, report back for further follow up doses.
rishimba last decade
Thank u so much Dr Akshaymohi & Dr Rishimba.
Do i get these medicines Iodium 30c & phosperous 200C from a homeopathy shop or a alopathy shop.
thank u again.
jeegs last decade
you will get these remedies in a homeopathy shop only.

more importantly, please dont mix remedies.

take one remedy at a time and wait for 20 days. if its working then you will take its next dose only when the symptoms return.

otherwise, if the remedy fails even in about 20 days to show any improvement, take the other remedy.
rishimba last decade
Thank u Dr Rishimba. We have some homeopathy clinics here in Gangtok, Sikkim (India). Do u think I can get them here. Also I will start with Phosperous 200C initially. can I take them with my normal aloapthy medicines ie ganatone 50mg,Dexid & enzymes since my reflux is quite bad.
jeegs last decade
Dr Rishimba, Please let me know if it is ok to take phosperous along with my normal alopathy medicines. also if this is a one day course for a start. thanks..jeegs!
jeegs last decade
reflux is one of the main symptoms of phosphorus patients.

if you can manage to stay away from allopathic medication for a few weeks its better for you in the long run.

thats because, after the initial re-alignment phase of 4 to 5 days, your reflux is also going to get cured in the long run by phosphorus.

you should get these medicines in sikkim.
rishimba last decade
Yes I want to badly getaway from the alopathy medicines. Please tell me for how many days should i take the phospoprous 200c and does it have any adverse reaction to alcohol as soon we are having our festivals. Thank u so much for ur guidance
jeegs last decade
it would all depend on what kind of response are you showing to the first dose set of phosphorus.

if you feel its overall helping you in the next 20 days, i would suggest you to take PHOS 1M once every month for next three months.

trust, you would get a long term relief with that.

i suggest you should not take alcohol within 2 to 3 days of the remedy, before and after.

take the remedy in empty stomach and clean mouth. dont take any food one hour before or after the remedy.
rishimba last decade
Thanks again but pls tell me the duration of the first course i.e how many days is it one day course or 20 days course. Sorry to bother u so much. jeegs!
jeegs last decade
its a one day course.

wait and watch for the next 20 days.
rishimba last decade
Thank u so much
jeegs last decade
after going through the mentals of this person specially the fears of future worsening of the problem his constitutional remedy will be KALI-CARBONICUM.So take only three doses of kali-carb-30 at half hour interval on a single day.kali-carb covers you as a whole which is the basic point of prescription in classical homeopathy.report after one week please.
rssaini18 last decade
Dr R Saini, Thank u so much for your advice. I shall try your medicine after the phosporous 200c as suggested by Dr Rishimba earlier in the forum. Thank u again-Jeegs!
jeegs last decade
kali carb has disgust for food.

the patient's sensations do not describe kali carb.

however, if phos fails, you can give it a try with kali carb.

thanks dr. saini for your contribution.
rishimba last decade
Thank you Dr. rishimba. selection of Phos too is correct so far as physical symtoms are concerned.phos is averse to thunders,rains on mental plane as kali-c repulsive to food.pangs of hunger and feeling emptiness in the pit of stomach are merely physical expressions of the disorder,whereas the mental state of the sufferer in this case is covered by the following rubrics on a deeper mental level.
1.Anxiety hungry when.
2.anxiety future about.
3.Delusions emptiness, of .
Kali- carb is common to all these rubrics.thanks.
rssaini18 last decade
i wouldnt form these rubrics on the first place.

here the mental symptoms are not predominant. i dont find any statement by the patient which indicates he is intensly anxious or worried when he is hungry.

the patient is a cheerful character with many friends but it is a general statement. i dont think i could use this as a rubric 'vivaciuos'.

moreover, the sensation of kali carb is more of bloating, lump in the stomach or stomach full of water. hunger and emptyness is more in phosphorus.

i would base my prescription on the most dominant sensation presented by the patient, whether it is mental or physical. in this case, its physical.

kalicarb would come as a second choice if at all.
rishimba last decade
thank you dr. rishimba.mind being the supercomputer of the human body ,always scores over the later and all the more predominance of mental syptoms in the form of versions and speech of the patient tells about the mental state of the person after all it is the person who is sick and his organs alone.literal meaning of any expression does not form a rubric we have to see the hidden sentiment or meaning conveyed by it.thank you for your comments.
rssaini18 last decade
Pl.read the line as it is the person who is sick and not his organs alone.
rssaini18 last decade
I agree that we have to see the hidden sentiments and underlying mental themes of patients.

I think the priority order of the rubrics should be

No.1) Core Delusions

No.2) Never well since events

No.3) Mental and Emotional symptoms

Generals, aversions , cravings and chief complaints come only after all the above.
sameervermani last decade
sensations are felt by the mind.

generalities also give an idea of the mind as well.

i would pick up anything peculiar or strange or intense delusion, delirim if i feel its there.

in this case, the sensation was at the top of the list.

generalities match phos as well.
rishimba last decade
Dr Rishimba,
I have just managed to get hold of phosperous 200 as the same couldnt be found here. Kindly let me know whether I should take the phosporous powder with water or just plain. Its in powder form.
thank u so much.
cheers last decade
is it in pellets or in liquid form.
rishimba last decade

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