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Bartya Carbonica for growth

I am thinking of giving the Baryta Carbonica 30c wet does beginning Friday. My son has had strep throat and it was starting to recur about 3 days after he completed the 10 day course of antibiotics. (Almost a fishy smell to the breath, sore throat, espcially when he swallowed, headache, red spots on the back of the throat.) He took 4 wet doses of Belladona 12c wednesday, about 3 Thursday and 1 this morning. He asked for the dose this morning. :-) I guess I need to wait for the Belladonna to finish working before switching to the Baryta Carb. Then I can give the Baryta Carb 30c 1 wet dose every other day. I give the wet dose of Baryta Carb every other day for 3 months!? That seems like a long time. Please explain.
  Cordial on 2008-01-10
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Hello Cordial,
Pl. give his case history.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
With a flashlight look into your son's throat. Check if the problem is more at right or left side.

How often he had problem and if you can remember which side problem started.

Also read:
girilal last decade
The swollen glands were on his left side. He is getting better right now. I have to wait on the Baryta Carb until the strep is cleared. Strep is almost gone.
Cordial last decade
Well if this happenes again and on the right side:
Mercurius Iodatum Ruber 5x or just any available potency up to 30C once a day for 2-3 weeks.
girilal last decade
Baryta Carb has to be repeated frequently in low potency....for it to work.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
But I understood that the Baryta Carb was to be given in 30 c, every other day. I was going to make a wet dose and give a teaspoon of that every morning. I am waiting a few days to begin as he is just recovering fro strep and has had wet doses of Belldonna 12c daily all week.
Cordial last decade
Better to use 6c or 12c for Baryta Carb.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
That's what I would have thought, but someone else on here (Dr. Deoshlak maybe?) posted to take baryta carb 30c every other day. I am not a homeopath, but I would have thought it should be 12x if that often.

I am really interested in a little more explanation as to why that dose (30c, 12c, 12x) and that frequency (every 2 days). Growth is not something that can be monitored like an acute problem.

I thought that frequent dosing was for acute problems. I think of chronic problems as higher dose and less frequency, like maybe take one dose and wait for results.

Please explain.

Cordial last decade
1. Identity: John
2. Age: 9 yrs old
3. Sex: MALE
4. Married/Unmarried/widow: SINGLE (He's a child)
5. weight: 50 pounds 22.7 kg
6. Height: 49 inches 124.5 cm
7. country: USA
8. climate: HOT HUMID
9. Family History:
10. Qualification of patient
11. Nature of working: STUDENT
12. Complexion: FAIR/WHEATISH
13. Constitution: THIN
14. veg/non veg: NON VEG
15. History of taking Alcohol/Tobacco/coffee/Tea/any drugs addiction: NONE
16. List of your complain first 1. 2.. 3 ……
17. Since how long you are suffering for each complain
18. current medicine you are taking for each complain: He was given PHOSPHORUS 30C about 2 yrs ago as his consitutiona. We redose this a few times a year as needed for nose bleeds. He has been given Belladonna 12C 3 days in a row for strep throat this past week. He was treated first on Christmas day for 10 days with amoxicilin and strep was recurring.
19. Diabetic or non Diabetic: NON
20. Desire sweets/sour/salt: SWEET
21. Thirst –Small quantity/short interval/long interval/large Quantity: drinks frequently in small quantities.
22. Tongue color: red normal with white coating near the back of throat.
23. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine) ?? Good
24. What exactly is happening ?
25. How do you feel ?
26. How does this affect you ?
27. How does it feel like ?
28. What comes to your mind ?
29. One situation that had a big effect on you ? returning to 4th grade in late october after home schooling for 2 yrs.
30. How did that feel like ? great, but all new responsibilities and missed mom a lot
31. What sensation do you experience in that situation ? a little scared and excited
32. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand.(habits or Action) ?
33. desire or like and dislike of food cheese, ice cream, egg nog, yogurt
33. Name of foods which increase your problem
34. Body odor ,/sweating/- sweating at night while sleeping
35. Under line the right word for you ---- [I erased all that do not apply.]
Restless, Drowsy, discouragement, Easy impressionability, Fear and Shyness, Guilty and self-blame, Hard master onto oneself (perfectionism), Immaturity of Mind/Emotions, lack of motivation and incentive, low self-confidence, Overenthsiasm, Weakness too willing, Fear from known thing,
36. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases): his growth is pretty steady, but he is still very short and skinny for his age.
37. . Details of the adverse features in the Pathological ,ECG, XRay Ultra-Sound's tests already conducted: He is in the 3rd percentile for height for his age and has remained so for the past 6+ years.
38. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)

Addionally, he has celiac disease. He is very smart; has an extremely high IQ. He is very friendly and outgoing and loves to be around people. he loves to read fiction and science.
Cordial last decade
The chief complaint is slow growth, short stature. The secondary is; often sick with runny nose, cough. Nose bleeds often with a charachteristic blood clot at the end. As soon as the clot comes out the nose bleed stops. It seems very strange and always follows this pattern. Sweats at night. Kicks covers off at night. Has a lot of fears. Very sensitive to how others treat him.
Cordial last decade
Also, he is very intelligent, but not extremely mature. I would say he is maybe a little immature socially.
Cordial last decade
Dr. Deoshlok and other homeopahts, can you please give your opinion with details on my son's case? Thanks.
Cordial last decade
Hello Cordial,
Since you know some homeopathy...examine the possibility of Phosphorus.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I didn't rx it. Our homeopath did after a work-up. The week following the dose, some of his speech problems were corrected. I think he was give phosphorus based on a number of symptoms, chronic nose bleeds, fears of being alone, of robbers (He is 9 yrs old), sensitivity, speech problems, head persiration (while sleeping is not part of Phos), tiredness.

He was firsr given phos 30c about 2 yrs ago. Immediately some of his speech problems dissapeared. He used to begin a sentence and have trouble finding the words to say and finish the sentence with 'never mind' never finishing the complete sentence. That stopped. His behavior improved, but I can't remember specifically what aspects. He was less fidgety, less fearful.
Cordial last decade
Go to 200c.....Phos.
Also see other thread.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
We did. I also put the 200 c in a wet dose and plussed it a few times. I gave him 1 sip of it daily for about a week and proved it. His nose was bleeding all the time every 5 minutes. It would stop and then 1 minute later, it was bleeding again. So do not use the Baryta carb at all?
Cordial last decade


TALL, slender, narrow-chested, phthisical patients, delicate eyelashes, soft hair or nervous, weak persons who like to be magnetized. Waxy, half anæmic, jaundiced persons.

Anxious, universal restlessness, cant stand or sit still. < in dark or when left alone, before a thunder storm.

Burnings prominent in every place, as in mouth, stomach, small intestines, anus, between scapulæ, intense, running up spine, palms of hands, heat begins in hands, spreads to face.

Craving for cold things, ice cream, which agrees, or cold water, which is thrown up as it gets warm in the stomach. Must eat often or he faints. Must get up at night to eat.

Sinking, faint, empty feeling in head, chest, stomach and whole abdominal cavity.

Cough, < twilight till midnight, < lying on left side, > on right side. Right lower lobe most affected.

Diarrhœa, profuse, pouring out as from a hydrant; watery with sagolike particles or dysenteric, with wide open anus.

Apathetic, unwilling to talk, answers slowly, moves sluggishly.

Constipation: fæces slender, long, dry, tough and hard like a dog's; voided with difficulty.

Hæmorrhagic diathesis; slight wounds bleed profusely, hæmoptysis; metrorrhagia worse; vicarious, from nose, stomach, anus, urethra in amenorrhœa.

Cannot talk; the larynx is so painful; cough, going from warm to cold air, laughing, talking, reading, eating lying on left side (Dros., Stan.).

(Emphasis added)

gavinimurthy last decade

Late Professor of Materia Medica in Hering College, Chicago.


The complaints of Phosphorus are most likely to arise in the feeble constitutions, such as have been born sick, grown up slender, and GROWN TOO RAPIDLY.

(Emphasis added.)

gavinimurthy last decade

TALL, slender persons, narrow chested, with thin, transparent skin, weakened by loss of animal fluids, with great nervous debility, emaciation, amative tendencies, seem to be under the special influence of Phosphorus.

(Emphasis added)

gavinimurthy last decade
I have suggested Calc.Phos in the other thread. Read about it.

gavinimurthy last decade

Why wet dose ?
Just give him Phosphorus 200 in pills.

Three doses in a gap of 1/2 hour each....then stop.


(Gavini...looks like we have to deal with two layers).

Let one med work...watch for emerging symptoms...then suggest the appropriate second.

Actual cases are not as simple as narrated in the books.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

....irritates, inflames and degenerates mucous membranes, irritates and inflames serous membranes, inflames spinal cord and nerves, causing paralysis, destroys bone, especially the lower jaw and tibia; disorganizes the blood, causing fatty degeneration of blood vessels and every tissue and organ of the body and ......thus gives rise to hemorrhages,........ and hematogenous jaundice.

From ABC site itself.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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