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Where To Start With Autistic Daughter

Hello. I'm new to this forum and homeopathy in general. My 6YO daughter was diagnosed as high functioning autistic at 3 years old. She currently attends a school for autistic children. Progress is painfully slow. A friend had her son to see a homeopath about 7 months ago. I see big changes in him for the better. I emailed this homeopath and he does not actually "see" the kids. Just does diagnosis and recommendations by phone, email and mail. This kind of turned me off to him. Not to mention his fee including the remedies are in excess of $350 per month. As I said I am new to this so maybe this is a good deal. Anyway, I decided to try to learn as much as I can on my own and get advice wherever I can along the way. I have read all of the threads on these boards that deal with autistic kids and have learned many great things from all of you. So, more about my daughter:

Pregnancy was unremarkable, rather easy in fact. Delivery was hectic. She passed maconium at the very last second and had to be intubated & suctioned. She seemed fine afterwards but had problems keeping her temp up while in the nursery. had her under a heat lamp almost the entire hospital stay. Went home after 3 days w/ no problems. She was developing normally, in fact, she was ahead of the game in many areas including gross motor...started walking the day she turned 9 months old. Developed a few words then got her MMR booster at about 18 months. All went downhill from there. No longer used the spontaneous words she had been, was irritable had more than normal ear infections that were treated w/ antibiotics. had her evaluated at 2 and placed into an early intervention program. At 3 she was evaluated by the autistic school and was accepted. Meantime, neurologist put her on Risperdal for aggression (both towards herself & others). It seemed to help but language did not improve. Steadily increased doseage of Risperdal over the next 2 years. January 2004 was increased to 3ml per day! She began drooling after about 2 weeks on full 3ml dose. Drooling got worse over next few months. Then in March 2003 she had a seizure after a week long sinus infection. The neuro then started her on Depakote along with the Risperdal to control seizures. She was on that dose for 10 months. After a 4 hour video taped EEG showed NO seizure activity we weaned her off all meds on our own. She started vocallizing like crazy and stopped drooling alltogether. She's been med free for almost 2 months now. She still has some aggression (mostly towards herself) but no more than she had with the meds. She is a carb-aholic. Loves salty chips, chicken nuggets, grilled cheese, waffles w/ syrup. Loves juice & diet soda but has to be cool or cold. She has very dry hair & skin w/ frequent bouts of eczema. No gut problems that seem to be typical of Autistic kids. We did stop all vaccines about 2 years ago. Her last booster was when she was about 4 years old. We've tried vitamin supplements with little success.

Any help is appreciated

Thanks so much,
Deanna
 
  deannap203 on 2005-02-22
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I am no authority on this condition. There are many postings on other lists that have gone on for awhile. Go on the front and scroll down to the bottom where you posted and there are numbers indicating past postings not showing at this time. Pick one and check it out. There will be info about Autism here and there.

About the DIET sodas. Aspertame will poison your child. If it doesn't say Aspertame, there are 4 other names it comes under. It causes many of the general symptoms you have written. This is not to say that she will improve magically if removed, but you will at least eliminate something that may be interfering in her body. Aspertame has been known to cause MS in adults.

She needs more water to keep her body well hydrated.

Strong desire for carbs may point to candida. Too much sugars from all sources. It is very difficult to deal with a young child in this matter, especially when you are trying to keep her trust and attention.

Sugars will finally make her harder to handle as they are addictive. She doesn't just want them, they are addictive. They need to be like a treat for good behavior and cooperation.

Turkey or chicken fun processed meats would not be "best" but she may cooperate with them and they are better than most.

Children really like to eat with fingers. If after teaching good behavior, if she is using a fork or spoon, reward with something to hold in fingers.

Waffles are great with jelly and they can be held like toast. Less sugar than syrup and less mess.

I raised a very emotional asthmatic and this required careful cooperation while getting him to respond to the needs of his body. He had special rewards he could depend on when he held onto his emotions which kept his asthmatic suffering more in control. This is how I got started in homeopathy. It saved his life. He was less than a year old and looked like he was from a concentration camp. He is now a big 42 year old sweet man.

If you keep cool, and you sound like you are, and continue to post and study, things will get better. You have already proved it by removing allopathic meds and seeing the difference.

If your child has the ear or throat infection, let us know immediately and there will be help waiting for you. Visit your health store and see what remedies they have available. Make a list, so if one of us suggest something, you will already know what they have. ABC sells remedies too.

Please keep posting

Blessings, Sabra
 
sabra last decade
Downhill after MMR !!!. And people still go for vaccines!!.
Dry skin ,some eczema . How is the temper quick or slow. Does she wear wollens without problems . Is she hot in bed. How soon is a bowel motion after waking?.
Is she blonde or dark. Any moles , warts , birthmarks. Has she ever slept with her bum up in the air.
When she was born did she have bluey whites to the eyes.
Has she a blunt,squareish chin - or a pointy one.
Does she tan easily.
Does she like boiled eggs.
Is she easy going until pushed and then stubborn - or just stubborn.
Long eyelashes fine skin?.
Does she eat little and often or just go from one meal to the next. Does she have a quiet spell about 4 in the afternoon.
 
passkey last decade
Thanks to Sabra & Passkey for your responses. In answer to your questions passkey:

1. She is very quick tempered-if she doesn't get what she wants when she wants it, throws a tantrum-throws herself on the floor. sometimes jumps as high as she can and slams herself down on her knees. I think she may actually like the deep pressure is provides. Also very high tollerance to pain.
2. On an average day she does not have a BM until she gets home from school around 3-4 o'clock. However, I find that on weekends she may have one between 10 & 11 am. She usually wakes up around 7am on weekdays and 8am on weekends.
3. No warts but has what has been described by my Dr. as a Cafe Ole stain on her left buttox.
4. LOL! She sleeps with her bum in the air ALL THE TIME! She tucks her arms under herself and sticks her bum in the air. Also likes to be all covered up & tucked in for bed including pillow on top of her head.
5. Did not take notice to blueish tint to whites of eyes upon birth but was surprised that she did not have blue eyes when born. They were a greyish color. I was told that all newborns have blue eyes. Her eye color has remained the same to date-greyish.
6. She has a squareish chin
7. She tans very easily but never burns. Even last summer when we forgot the sunblock on the beach. She got very dark but never red.
8. I don't think I've ever given her a boiled egg. however, she LOVES to play with the eggs from the fridge. I have to put them in the back otherwise she gets them out and plays with them for a while then smashes them on the floor.
9. Stubbornness depends on the day & situation. For example, I try to make her say what she wants b4 giving it to her even when I know what it is she wants. Sometimes she will go along and say it, other times she will get fed up with me and scream and have a tantrum. Which reminds me, she has got a scream that is so high pitched, I swear it would break a glass.
10. The skin on her face is soft and supple but her legs arms and back are dry & rouch despite my use of lotion after nearly every bath. Recently we have been giving showers so she's not soaking and drying out so much.
11. Eyelashes are typical, not too long.
12. They stick to the eating schedule at school which I try to carry over at home. However when she gets home after school at about 3:15 pm she always seems to be starving and wants her dinner right away. She ususally eats a snack later on but since we've taken her off the meds, she doesn't eat nearly as much and has lost some weight as she was getting pretty chunky.
13. It's funny that you ask about a quiet spell b/c just recently (last 3-4 weeks)she has been going to her room around 4:30 or 5:00 to watch a video. She tends to seek out her blanket and occasionally she will want a binky as well. I find her laying in bed watching a video by herself.

I hope all of this info helps determine the best course of action for Samantha.

Thanks again,
Deanna
 
deannap203 last decade
You do realise that homeopathic remedies are only energy based remedies that unblock the body's naturally evolved ability to heal itself.

In this case I find pointers to Medorrhinum [strong] and Carsinosin medium
Sulphur [strong]

As she has eczema type skin keep away from water as much as possible - use cleansing cream.

Dont know what country you are in . The above are readily available in the UK but not in USA.
On a hereditary note what diseases have shown up in the ancestry of you and your mate.
 
passkey last decade
My friend's son has the same problem with his kid. Browsing the internet he stumbled upon the book "Ritalin Free Kids". He read the book and gave his son some Homeopathy medicines (Sulphur and Belladonna suited him well).

http://www.healthyhomeopathy.com/ritalinfreekids/successstor...
 
kuldeep last decade
I've been doing alot of research about homeopathy so I'm still learning. I just finished reasing The Natural Medicine Guide to Autism. The section on Homeopathy is what got me really intrigued how it may help my daughter as well as my family's overall health.

We are in the US. I have already checked the Helios Homeopathic online pharmacy for ordering info of the remedies you have mentioned. Is this a reputable site? If not, what do you suggest? Also, there are several size bottles (I would need liquid for my daughter). What size do you suggest getting. Larger since it will have to come overseas?

With Regard to hereditary diseases:

Alcoholism-maternal grandmother and maternal great-grandfather
Breast Cancer-maternal great-grandmother
Emphasema-fraternal great-grandfather
Bi-Polar Disorder-Fraternal great-grandmother

So, of the 3 remedies what do you think is best to start with? If I have to order from UK I would probably order all that may be indicated so I have them when needed. Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks,
Deanna
 
deannap203 last decade
Dear Deanna, If you have trouble getting the remedies you need, I will make them available free.
Blessings, Sabra
 
sabra last decade
You can rely on Helios .
Get Medorrhinum Cm & 10Cm
use one tab of Cm on first night and one tab of 10Cm on 2nd night .
Record [or memorise ] her condition before taking any tablets and use that as a yardstick . Then note any changes that occur over the next 14 days.
So long as there is some improvement do NOTHING - until she seems to be going backwards [for at least three days. ]

Get Sulphur Cm
get Carsinosin Cm
but use neither of them until we get a chance to asess the changes [if any] brought about by the Medorrhinum.



Website : http://www.symbiosis.com/.
Date. 2005-02-24
COURSE SHEET
DIET.. Avoid where possible:- Pepper , spices , use coffee as weak as possible , red meat . alcohol , i.e. keep intake to minimum tolerable . Use unprocessed whole foods without additives or flavourings ; & preferably avoid cow produced dairy products.
GENERAL. Smoking __________________avoid___________________________
Alcohol ___________________avoid__________________________
Sex ____________________avoid_________________________

EXERCISE . DO NOT GET OVERTIRED.Exercise should be in the hands of experts.
TABLETS [OR DROPS]
Preliminary Course: Medorrhinum Cm & 10Cm 1 tab at 24 hr intervals. Advise after 14 days.
OTHERS: Carsinosin Cm- keep in reserve .
Main course Sul - BOT 1 Cm 1 tab
Advise 3 days after completion , before if any query.
[1]Tablets which fall to the ground , or touch other people should be discarded.
[2] Tablets should be tipped from the bottle into the lid and transferred to the mouth, before the lid is replaced on the bottle .
Do not eat or drink for 10/15 min before or after taking a tablet.
Homoeopathic medicines require some special handling and storage - so that they may not lose their power and become inert as a result of contaminatíon. They should always be kept in the container in which they are supplied. They should be kept away from strong líght, from great heat and especially from exposure to strong odours or perfumes, for example camphor, menthol, moth balls, carbolíc soap. The medicines are usually supplied in the form of pills, tablets or powders. The dose should be típped into the contaoner lid and transferred to the mouth, or, if in powder form be tipped direct on to the tongue. No water need be taken to "wash the medicine down". Absorbtion takes place from the mouth - chew or suck the tabfets or pills. Sometimes the remedy is needed to be taken in water. The cup, glass, or spoon used should be "cleansed" before further use for another remedy. The dose should be put into a "clean mouth". It should not be taken until the mouth is free from the effects of food, drínk, tobacco smoke, taothpaste, mouth washes and confectionery. An interval of a quarter of an bour should suffice. While taking homoeopathie remedies it is pr-eferable to avoíd use of other medicines including laxatives, nasal drops and liniments.
 
passkey last decade
Thanks so much Passkey!

Ok, I went to the Helios site. For the Medorrhinum what is the Cm & 10Cm? Is this potency? If so, the site only gives potency options of 6,12,30,200,1M,10M,50M,6x,9x,12x. Also, I would prefer oral liquid for her. Does the liquid work in the same way? What potencies of the other remedies should I order if I get the oral liquid?

Can I get homeopathic remedies anywhere local? Like my health food coop? I'm in New Castle, Delaware.

I'm also looking into taking both of my children to a local homeopath. I found one close by and was wondering if anyone has heard of him. His name is Robert Hall, MD located in Hockessin, DE. His website says he obtained his homeopathic training from the National Center for Homeopathy and the New England School of Homeopathy. Anyone know anything about him or the place he was trained?

Thanks again!
Deanna
 
deannap203 last decade
Sorry thought Helios would carry those potencies . But they are rarely used . If you wish I can send them to you ,

But it may be that Dr Hall will have views that are different to those I hold .

So I suggest that we put the matter on hold until you have seen him. No I dont know anything of Dr Hall or the National Centre for Homeopathy
 
passkey last decade
deanna
please remember that homeopathy works acording to each individual not by the indicated illness. i have had much success via homeopathy and it's healing powers regards autism,but it is a difficult road. My recomendation is to see this homeopath and make sur the restrictions of dietary regiments are followed precisely. no gluten no dairy,no sugars,no aspartame (in diet soda),no foods containing preservatives,no coffee.
when a child slips even one time and eats something with gluten it can reverse the entire process . The fee you mentioned is verry much standard to low for payment of a homeopath in the usa.
some charge a few thousand for the first visit.
Make sure this homeopath is classically trained.
Tyler
 
tyler last decade
Thank you all so much for your help.

I have emailed 2 local homeopaths to see if they have had treated and cases of autism. I have not heard back yet and am still researching.

Has anyone heard of Dr. Ellen Feingold? Her name appeared in a paper regarding autism but there was not mention of her actually treating a case. Both she and the other homeopath that I am considering were classically trained. I understand this to mean that they treat using only one remedy at a time. Is this correct? This is in contrast to what? Combining remedies, I guess?

Thanks again.
Deanna
 
deannap203 last decade
There is some confusion regarding the term "Classical" homeopathy.
But in the main it only uses a single remedy at a time .
Also not'combination remedies ' ie Bryonia 6x, Calc 3x, Puls 2x --- etc. in one tablet.

But combinations such as Ferrum Phos , Calc Sul are considered normal .

Sometimes it is considered reasonable to use remedies in alternation.

Homeopaths who , in the main, follow the lines laid down by Samual Hahnemann , in the 'Organon' are usually considered 'classical'.
 
passkey last decade
Just a word of advice: Keep a homeopathy diary. Before you give the first dose of anything, please have a notebook ready to record what you have given (date, remedy and potency). Then try to record as many changes as you observe from day to day.

Even if you see a professional homeopath, it will be to your benefit to keep track of everything given.

Don't rely on your memory. Life is too hectic. I speak from experience -- wish I had kept a journal.
 
ruth45 last decade
Absolutely- keep a record.
 
passkey last decade
Hello All! I just thought I'd post an update here on my daughter. We started seeing a homeopathic Dr. in my area in April. I'm happy to report that she's been steadily improving each month. Her speech is coming along nicely...nothing major but lots of babbling and some words are as clear as a bell. But the biggest imporvement is the decrease in her tantrums. Based on the school record, she has decreased by more than 70% since last March! This is huge for us! Before she was screaming and hitting herself and slamming her head on the floor. She still has her moments but the improvement has been dramatic. She's on her 3rd different remedy now. Our Dr. doesn't like to tell me what the remedy is becasue he doesn't want me to research and have any expectations. But when we took her for her last appt. on Tuesday this week, I peeked at her file and he gave her Bufo 200c this time. Since we had such great results I've turned my Father in law onto Homeopathy as well as his wife who recently had back surgery. My FIL's blood pressure and cholestorol are down and he says he feels like "a million bucks" and his wife is experiencing much less pain than with traditional alopathic pain meds.

So, that's my update. I'm hoping for even more improvements in her over the next year or more.

Deanna
 
deannap203 last decade
Dear deanna,

Congratulations.Indeed homeopathy is great and success stories such as your kid's should be publicised as much as possible on public domain such as this forum.It is these success stories which will keep the nonsensical attempts by pharma companies and vested interests in the media at bay.I am sure you must be aware of the recent attempts by Lancet, a leading medical journal, to debunk homeopathy as hogwash.I am sure people like you who have experienced the power of homeopathy would never fall prey to such malicious campaigns and spread the good word around like you did with your FIL.

I really pray to God that your kid has a long and great life.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
ok since this was caused through vacine the old english homeopaths used thuja 2x for 2to 3 weeks
if any agravations stop wait till it settles try again
 
alangail1 last decade
Dear deanap203

It isn't be the first case caused by the MMR vaccine, Thuja is the most used remedy for post-vaccination problems, but some times the best is to use the same active cause to eliminate it, I recomend to give her homeopathic MMR 200c, and check if before symptoms return.
Sergio
 
sergiorvil last decade
What precisely is it in the MMR vaccine that is said to cause the problems?

Here's a reference to what it DOES contain for you to refer to: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/mmr.htm
 
ZepOz last decade
Dear ZepOz

Some people are allergic to different things, and the reaction vary according to the suceptibility of the patient. that is the reason that many allopathic medicines have side effects and the laboratories have to take out the remedies after made to much damage. Remember the case of the penicilin.
Well there are reported cases of autism caused by a MMR post-vaccination do you think that Labs are going to accept this? There is to much money on play.

Sergio
 
sergiorvil last decade
Sergio,

I'm not arguing with you, but you haven't answered my question. Would you mind?

What precisely is it in the MMR vaccine that is said to cause the problems?

More precisely, what ingredient(s) in it are said to cause autism?
 
ZepOz last decade
Dear ZepOz

When you eat and orange that is a natural compound that have many kind of elements and you dont know why after that a rash or a sneezing begin, what is going to say the doctor, that you are allergic to the color, to citrics, to vitamin C, to the essential oil of the peel, no, he is going to say that you are suceptible to oranges or maybe more citrics.
Well, you dont know exactly what componet are you allergic in the composition of MMR, but something in that allopathic compound made the reaction according to explanation of the mother.
Do you know that the MMr vaccine inoculated to that child is of the same laboratory that you take your information?
Weel, there are many factor to analize to determine what element exactly made the reaction.

Best regards and happy new year
Sergio
 
sergiorvil last decade
Doesn't have to be ingredients. Just the act of vaccination is a bit much for the body, and invariably the start of chronic miasms.
 
Daisy43 last decade
I agree with you Daisy it is and alien invasion

best regards and happy new year

Sergio
 
sergiorvil last decade

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