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Venous blood is dark red, not blue as it is often depicted in many medical diagrams.

Veins often look blue when seen through the skin, but this is due to Rayleigh scattering – venous blood itself is actually a dark red color (but looks purple through the opaque skin), while arterial blood is bright red.[1]

The appearance of veins as dark blue is a wavelength phenomenon of light, having to do with the reflection of blue light away from the outside of venous tissue if the vein is 0.02in deep or more. Deoxygenated blood is darker than oxygenated blood due to the difference in color between deoxyhemoglobin and oxyhemoglobin; the red color ultimately originates from the iron atom in heme. If blood is drawn for a medical test, the dark red color can be seen; however, if it is exposed to oxygen in the air, it will turn bright red like arterial blood.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_blood

As I said earlier half knowledge is worse than no knowledge.

Murthy

Re: Bright red Blood after bowel movement. From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] on 2010-04-08

It is best to have your problem diagnosed by a doctor as it cannot be done on this Forum.

If your doctor confirms that you suffer from bleeding Hemorrhoids, the remedy that has helped many is Hamamelis 200 in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

You will take Arncia 30c in the Wet dose twice daily. First dose on an empty stomach in the morning and the last dose taken just before bed.

You will also take 2 tablets Nat Phos 6x twice daily after 2 main meals.

No Alcohol and other food that can exacerbate your ailment.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is the dose. Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

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http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/222301/

As the age progresses memory becomes weak. It is but natural and I can understand it.

Murthy

To Gavini

It was only a few days ago that you stated that I was SENILE.

In my last post to you I PROVED that at my advanced age of 81 years that I seemed to be the more alert of the two of us when compared to each other.

I hope that you realize that you have accepted and confirmed my statement in your last 2 posts that:

'VENOUS BLOOD IS NEVER BRIGHT RED.'

I quote your post again to remind you of your statement:

'Hamamelis works only if the blood from the veins is bright red. '

I hope that at least now, you will accept this FUNDAMENTAL FACT and apologize for your BOO BOO in insisting that your statement that the 'BLOOD FROM THE VEINS IS BRIGHT RED' .

Quite frankly I cannot understand what you are trying so hard to state and the point that you wish to make.
Everyone knows and accepts the fundamental fact that VENOUS BLOOD IS NEVER BRIGHT RED but you have sought to prove it otherwise till now.

I also hope that you will read your own statement again where you have confirmed with the reference to Wikipedia that:

'Re: Broken Vein Valve From gavinimurthy on 2010-05-26

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Venous blood is dark red, not blue as it is often depicted in many medical diagrams. '

You will observe that I have never questioned the fact that Venous blood is DARK RED. What I refused rightly to accept was your statement that ''BLOOD FROM THE VEINS IS BRIGHT RED'.

I was not disputing the other fact that you mentioned about the reason for the 'Blue' shade of Venous Blood.


I must place on record that I do resent your disparaging reference to me and my age where you state:

' As I said earlier half knowledge is worse than no knowledge.

Murthy'

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'As the age progresses memory becomes weak. It is but natural and I can understand it.'

Murthy

Very condescending of you !!! However you may like to know that I and anyone who cares to read this long exchange of posts will realize in a moment that there does seem to be something wrong in your position where at one time you accepted my viewpoint although originally you rejected it outright.

What more can I say at this stage other than to quote your own statement made in 2006 on this forum that 'MY BRAIN BOILS OVER' at this time of the evening (8.00PM) perhaps due to the usual stimulants which I presume you use liberally today which you specified in your post in 2006.

When you are not befuddled any more, perhaps by tomorrow morning, I shall be interested to have your comments on the many other matters that I dealt with in my last post which you have very conveniently avoided to reply.

I hope that you realize even at this late stage that you only succeed in PUTTING YOUR FOOT IN, deeper and deeper with every passing post you make as you have done on many occasions in the past.

Yet it is you who DARES to accuse me of Senility and the loss of memory:

'As the age progresses memory becomes weak. It is but natural and I can understand it. '

A classic case of the 'Pot calling the Kettle BLACK !!! '

I can only advice you to get your wife or a close friend to read my post slowly to you and request her/him to explain the drift of my submissions to you before you sit down to type a reply, as right now, you do not appear to be able to understand what you wish to state by yourself, coherently.

It may even be better to request her/him to type the next post for you.

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'If blood is drawn for a medical test, the dark red color can be seen; however, if it is exposed to oxygen in the air, it will turn bright red like arterial blood.'

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Slow reading will help better comprehension. No doubt.

To make matters more clear let me elaborate.

Veinous blood is no doubt dark red. In majority cases of bleeding pilesthe problem is internal. By the time the blood reaches the toilet it is no longer dark but becomes red due to the oxygenation.

That is the reason most of the bleeding patients complain that the blood is bright red.

Hamamelis is known to work well in such cases. You will observe that when the patient is refering to bright red blood our learned friend did prescribe Hamamelis.

Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: Bright red Blood after bowel movement. From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] on 2010-04-08

It is best to have your problem diagnosed by a doctor as it cannot be done on this Forum.

If your doctor confirms that you suffer from bleeding Hemorrhoids, the remedy that has helped many is Hamamelis 200 in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

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Murthy

The color of the veinous blood more often than not is bright red by the time the patient observes it.

Hamamelis works well in such cases.

I hope the issue is clear now. I don't mind explaining my statement further to those who are slow in comprehension.

Murthy

Dear Joe,
On this thread I have seen your suggestions to take Arnica and Hamamelis in alteration.

However, as per Boericke Materia Medica...Arnica antidotes Hamamelis.

Kindly revise your recommendations.

Best regards,
Pankaj Varma

I am referring to the following recommendation of yours:

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Re: Broken Vein Valve From Joe De Livera on 2010-05-22
To Suraj,

This is in response to your email requesting my advice on your problem.

I believe that the 2 remedies listed below can help you.

Arnica 6c to help to prevent the pooling of blood in your scrotum.

Hamamelis 200c to reduce the swelling.

Both remedies should be taken in the Wet dose twice daily but you may take the Arnica thrice daily for the first week.

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suraj87

now you have to take mellifolium - q

5 drops in a spoon of water three times a day.

also apply the same mixed in some water say 50-50 with an ear bud on the vein three times a day.

do it for a week and then report.

dr. rsg

To Gavini

I can see that you are not the type who will admit to an ERROR which is so very fundamental but this is not at all surprising as you have often put your foot into your posts on this and the Homeopathy and More forums in your many rantings, in the past. I was delighted to delete your posts on the H&M and this stopped your interference there. Here unfortunately I do not have that facility and all I can do is to watch you dig your own grave deeper and deeper, day after day with every post you make.

You must remember that the ABC has about 10000 hits daily and all these people comprising visitors and members will hold you in utter contempt at your pathetic attempts to make Venous Blood BRIGHT RED not to mention your other posts where you are ever ready to criticize my advice and prescriptions. It is a matter of surprise however that you stop short of helping a patient in spite of your vast store of knowledge which you have accumulated during the past 5 years of your studies of this Science.

A good example is the error I made accidentally by prescribing both Arnica and Hamamelis to this patien and I would have expected you to pounce on my error of prescribing these remedies for the patient for use daily as quite frankly I had not remembered that they antidote each other. I am grateful to Pankaj who spotted this fundamental error and I shall amend my prescription. What is the use of your concentrated study of Homeopathy which you stated you stated that you were involved a few years ago on a 24X7 basis ?

I believe that your main problem is that you feel that you are the Homeopathic God and that anything you say must ipso facto be correct. You should learn to be HUMBLE first and this may help you to project a certain aura of love and understanding of your patient and this may perhaps give you the ability to get out of the mess that you are now wallowing in, at least from a Homeopathic angle. As you often emphasize I am according to you SENILE but in my last post to you I compared our two levels of mental aptitude and I hope I have proved to you and certainly to those who read my posts that I at my advanced age am easily the sharper in intellect of the two of us.

All your subsequent posts after I spotlighted your BOO BOO will not and cannot change the colour and with each post you made, your ratings internationally dipped and proved that you are a person of an unusually warped intellect where you feel that you and only you can change DARK RED into BRIGHT RED in the case of Venous Blood. This issue may be trivial but it was obvious that when I pointed this fundamental error to you, all you had to do is to withdraw your statement which I presume you made in a moment of pique perhaps after some stimulant last evening.

I am amazed how you can label me SENILE simply because I am 81 years of age when anyone who read the exchange of post would label you MAD !!! I remember your mentioning some years ago that you were 45 in 2005 which will make you 50 now. At your age this is hardly the time to be irrational and vituperous in your writings on this Homeopathic Forum, as the ABC and the H&M are both designed to help anyone in distress with the prescriber's own therapy. You have succeeded in upbraiding the feelings of all right thinking people on this forum and I hope that you will realize your folly in your pathetic attempts to pontificate your thoughts here as this obviously reduces your status from the Homeopathic Constable (which term I did not confer on you) to that of a PSYCHOTIC or one who has taken leave of his senses and is badly in need of either Homeopathic or Medical assistance to contain your anger and your pride.

Please remember that I may be able to help you to overcome your present status of mental health into which you have sunk so unnecessarily and indicate some therapy to get you out of the Morass you are now wallowing in.

As for me, I am happy to be back here on the ABC at the pleadings of my patients and you will soon discover that your posts will not be heeded by those who desire to be cured. You may still have some support from a few classical homeopaths but the large majority will still depend on me and other rational homeopaths to cure them.

It is only a pity that I have to waste a lot of time to respond to your posts which I hope will find a target in your befuddled 'brain which often boils over' to quote your own words.

Joe De Livera





To Gavini

I can see that you are not the type who will admit to an ERROR which is so very fundamental but this is not at all surprising as you have often put your foot into your previous posts on this and the Homeopathy and More forums in your many rantings. I was delighted to delete your posts on the H&M and this stopped your interference there permanently. Here unfortunately I do not have that facility and all I can do is to watch you dig your own grave deeper daily.

You must remember that the ABC has about 10000 hits daily and all these visitors and members will hold you in contempt at your pathetic attempts to make Venous Blood BRIGHT RED, not to mention your other posts where you are ever ready to criticize mine but stop short of helping a patient with your classical prescriptions which I have often observed in the past invariably do not hep.

For instance I would have expected you to pounce on my error of prescribing Arnica and Hamamelis which quite frankly I had not remembered not to prescribe. I am indeed grateful to Pankaj who spotted my mistake and I shall amend my prescription forthwith. What is the use of your concentrated study of Homeopathy which you stated you were involved in a few years ago on a 24X7 basis ? You should learn to be HUMBLE firstly and to project a certain aura of love to the patient who wishes to be cured and this may perhaps give you the ability to get out of the mess that you are now in, at least from a Homeopathic angle.

As you often emphasize I am, according to you, SENILE at my advanced age of 81 but in my last post to you I compared our two levels of mental aptitude and I hope I proved to you and certainly to those who read my posts that I at my advanced age am possessed of a sharper intellect to yours.

All your subsequent posts after I spotlighted your BOO BOO will not and cannot change the colour of Venous Blood and I hope that you realize that with each post you make, your ratings internationally dip and prove that you are a person of an unusually warped intellect where you feel that you and only you can change Venous blood from DARK RED into BRIGHT RED. This issue may be trivial but it was obvious that when I pointed this fundamental error to you, all you had to do is to withdraw your statement which I presume you made in a moment of pique perhaps after some stimulant last evening.

I am amazed how you can label me SENILE simply because I am 81 years of age when anyone who read the exchange of posts would label you MAD !!! I remember your mentioning some years ago that you were 45 in 2005 which will make you 50 now. At your present age this is hardly the time to be irrational and vituperous in your writings on this Homeopathic Forum, as the ABC and the H&M are both designed to help anyone in distress with the prescriber's therapy. You have succeeded in upbraiding the feelings of all right thinking people on this forum and I hope that you will realize your folly in your pathetic attempts to pontificate on your mistake on the priinciple that the more often you make it the better are your chances of your proving it as true ! This irrational attitude obviously reduces your status from the oroginal 'Homeopathic Constable' (which term I did not confer on you) to that of a PSYCHOTIC or one who has taken leave of his senses and is badly in need of either Homeopathic or Medical assistance to contain your anger and your pride.

Please remember that I may be able to help you to overcome your present status of mental health into which you have sunk so unnecessarily and indicate some therapy to get you out of the Morass you are now wallowing in.

As for me, I am happy to be back here on the ABC at the pleadings of my patients and you will soon discover that your posts will not be heeded by those who desire to be cured. You may still have some support from a few classical homeopaths but the large majority will still depend on me and other rational and caring homeopaths to cure them.

It is only a pity that I have to waste a lot of time to respond to your inane posts which I hope will find a target in your befuddled 'brain which often boils over' to quote your own words.

Joe De Livera

My apologies for the duplicate post.

To Suraj

I have been corrected by Pankaj Varma for prescribing both Arnica and Hamamelis to you in my post copied below.

Arnica antidotes Hamamelis and you are requested NOT to use both remedies concurrently.

Use the Hamamelis 200 as prescribed and hopefully you will be helped by this remedy alone.

It is very easy for me to report posts that tend to degenerate into personal attacks and see that appropriate action is taken by the moderator.

However I won't do that as I believe the visitors are clever people and can judge themselves about the credentials of posters here.

There is no need to engage me with useless banter. I once again urge everyone to discuss on the content of the posts.

If one can't do that better to keep quiet rather than expose their inadequacy.

Murthy

Here is a list which is found as an annexture to Kent's repertory.

http://www.homoeopathie.in/wp-content/uploads/relationship-o....

No mention of Arnica being an antidote there.

I also have Abdur Rehman's encyclopedia of remedy relationships in homeopathy..the bible for remedy relationships.

It first says Hammelis is followed well by Arnica.

Subsequently it also mentions that Arnica antidotes Hamamelis.

Can our learn friend solve this riddle?

Murthy

suraj87


yes,

millefolium q

rsg

To Murthy

Here we go again.

Pankaj very rightly corrected me and quoted Boericke on Hamamelis which is antidoted by Arnica. This is a fact that Boericke and other august Homeopaths have discovered and recorded about 150 years or more ago.

I note that you have now even questioned Boericke's findings and I shall copy the relevant section from Boericke below:

Relationship.--Compare in hæmorrhoids: CALC FLUOR; Aloe; Mur ac in varicose veins. Mangifera indica.

Compare: Arnica; Calend; Trillium; Bellis; Sulph ac; Pulsatilla.

Antidote: Arnica.

Complementary: Ferrum.

Dose.--Tincture, to sixth attenuation. Distilled extract locally.



I also note that you scorn the records of Boericke merely because Kent and Abdur Rehman has discovered otherwise.

I have already amended my prescription to Suraj on the basis of the record of Arnica antidoting Hamamelis and I shall not change my therapy on the basis of your information.

You have always emphasized that 'little knowledge is dangerous' with particular reference to me.

I believe that the time has come to apply this same statement to your own rantings on the ABC.

This case is again a close parallel to your pathetic attempt to make Venous Blood, BRIGHT RED. Your rantings will go down in the History of the ABC for many years into the future and would provide visitors an insight into your own vivid description of your 'Brain that Boils over'.

I believe that your problem stems from a lack of HUMILITY where you seem to have taken over this precious science of Homeopathy to suit your own rantings and only succeeded in digging your grave deeper and deeper with every passing post you make here on the ABC.

I often wonder when you will STOP your belligerent attitude to Homeopathy which according to you must be prescribed according to Murthypathy or else face the consequences.




I would like to make an amendment to Boericke's therapy for Hemorrhoids and Varicose Veins which may be of interest to you and to others on this forum. This is based on my own experience in the treatment of these 2 common ailments.

You will observe that he has prescribed the dose:

Dose.--Tincture, to sixth attenuation. Distilled extract locally.

My own experience in the treatment of over 50 cases is that Hamamelis 200c in the Wet dose is by far more effective in resolving these 2 ailments as the lower potencies do not seem to work.

The 200c potency works overnight to resolve the bleeding Hemorrhoid or the pain from a Varicose vein.

Joe De Livera

Guru- Dr. Hahnmenn has always been using wet doses of all medicines.

RSG

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/225156/2

To Rajendra.

I was converted to the Wet dose method of using and dispensing Homeo remedies by Dr Luc de Schepper in 2005 when he was here in Sri Lanka to help the survivors of the Tsunami when we lost about 50000 lives. I was associated with him at that time and discovered that the Wet dose was far more effective than the Dry pellets however illogical this seemed.

Please read the 5th and 6th Edition of the Organon where you will note that this Wet dose which Hahnemann labelled the Split dose was referred to by him. He too had used the dry activated lactose pellets up to that time and it was only later in his life that he used the Split dose which is slightly different from what I called the Wet dose in consultation with Dr Luc.

The Split dose is made by first activating a bottle of water with the lactose pellets (as Dr Luc made the medicine) and a teaspoonful of this activated water was stirred into a cup of water from which the patient sipped one or two gulps.

I discovered that this mixture was too weak to be effective and suggested to Luc that it would be more positive to use the method that I use today which I shall copy below:


The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle which can be used as a dose.

No two lists are the same as far as remedy relationships are concerned.

Boericke is not the ultimate authority..no more than Miller.

Abdur Rehman's encyclopedia is a compilation of all the information that is available so far.

He also says Hamamelis is antidoted by Arnica. Some other author would have said Arnica is a follower to Hamamelis and hence it is included as a follower too.

My question was how do you reconciliate this seeming paradox?

I know the answer. I will wait for some time to stimulate the brain cells of others before telling it.

Murthy

The Split dose is made by first activating a bottle of water with the lactose pellets (as Dr Luc made the medicine) and a teaspoonful of this activated water was stirred into a cup of water from which the patient sipped one or two gulps.

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This is the correct way particularly for very sensitive patients.

Even while giving wet doses one has to take into account the sensitivity of the patient.

Of course the thick skinned people can take a sip straight from the bottle.

Murthy

Thanks. Each one is having his method to use the medicine.

All are working may be slight difference of their effectiveness.

RSG

Thanks. Each one is having his method to use the medicine.

All are working may be slight difference of their effectiveness.

RSG