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alfalfa mothertincture (in alfalfa tonic) with autoimmune issues ok?

Hi,

I have IBS and have been dealing with evening nausea off and on for many years. Stress doesn't help and since life has been a bit stressful lately it has been acting up again. I am loosing weight and am underweight to begin with. I was reading that homeopathic alfalfa tonic can really help with increasing appetite and weight gain and would like to try it. The ones that I have found have alfalfa mothertincture in it. I have some (quite mild so far) autoimmune issues, and have read a lot of warnings to not take alfalfa supplements in that case. Should I also avoid this alfalfa homeopathic mother tincture? Or is that less strong than herbal alfalfa?

Thank you very much in advance.
 
  ewink on 2010-12-04
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You should not use Alfafa so long you are a patient of IBS.Please take advice to cure your IBS first and there are so many learned doctors are here and i hope some will help u.Thanks
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Ha! Cure my IBS huh?! I've had it since I was 2 years old; I am now 43!! Good luck!
One of the things these (homeopathic) alfalfa tonics say they are for is IBS.
 
ewink last decade
Also, you didn't really answer my question: is homeopathic mother tincture of alfalfa the same as herbal alfalfa, or is it different, less strong?
Thanks
 
ewink last decade
Please, does someone here know if homeopathic mother tincture of alfalfa is different from the straight herbal form?
Thanks very much!
 
ewink last decade
Yes it is different. Homoeopathic medicines are quite different to the raw substances - whole new aspects are opened up through our special method of processing them. The first level of dilution will make it slightly less aggravating than the raw substance. But potentization does create a more powerful kind of medicine

Having said that, there will also be some similarities in terms of what we might use it for.

But bec
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
By the way, I have cured many cases of IBS - as have many homoeopaths all around the world. Our literature is full of cures of that kind of condition.

You should go to this site and read up on what homoeopathy is and how it works.

http://www.simillimum.com/education/homoeo-faq/general-quest....

David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you for your response(s).
I actually have gone to a homeopath in the past (2 different ones over the years actually). Neither has 'cured' my IBS. One was able to cure a bad respiratory infection that no medical doctor had been able to cure for almost 2 months. The other one was able to help with similar more acute illnesses. Neither was able to make any changes at all to my IBS...
I do understand some basics of homeopathy works; what I am not quite clear about is what exactly a mother tincture is in homeopathy. Some sources seem to say that it is the first level of dilution (1x?), while others said that it was just the material diluted in water and/or alcohol. Then what is the difference between that and an herbal tincture?!

I have in the past taken mother tincture of echinacea; more recently I have used herbal echinacea tinctures. Is there any difference? I does seem to me that the mother tincture I used to buy in Belgium worked better than the herbal tinctures I can find here in the US.

I still don't understand the difference though, if there indeed is one.

I really would not want to take anything that could trigger some bigger autoimmune problems. But this homeopathic alfalfa tonic I read about sounds really like what I need right now. I am considering it to increase my appetite in hopes to gain some weight, as I am quite underweight right now and don't want to be.

I have been taking Nux Vomica (30C) for the last 3 evenings and it seems to be helping a little bit!

Thanks again.
 
ewink last decade
There is the mother tincture from which we make our remedies, which is the same as the herbal mother tincture. Then there is the homoeopathic mother tincture which is the first level of dilution (1x, 1c etc). It is slightly potentized, and so slightly more powerful.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you so very much for your time to explain this to me!!
 
ewink last decade
Hi again,

After thinking about this more and re-reading the responses, I realize I still actually don't know if homeopathic (mother tincture) of alfalfa (from a homeopathic alfalfa tonic) would have the same concerns regarding autoimmune conditions as herbal alfalfa. I have read that people with autoimmune conditions/tendencies should stay away from herbal alfalfa for that reason.
Is that not so for homeopathic alfalfa?

Thank you.
 
ewink last decade
Hi i am not a doctor, just one of the patients here. I use the alfalfa Q i don't think the tinctures are homeopathic , but read here .hope it helps


http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-mother-tincture.htm
 
paintthetown last decade
Let me clarify a point that is confusing you.

A medicine that is made using our preparation methods (dilution and potentization/trituration) is NOT homoeopathic unless selected specifically for the patient on the basis of their symptoms. It is just a potentized one, and it can be misprescribed and misused just like any other medicine. It can even be used allopathically.

If Alfalfa is homoeopathic for you, it will not harm you but heal you. So the question is not will homoeopathic Alfalfa cause problems for you - but is Alfalfa homoeopathic to your disease.

If a medicine is not homoeopathic, then you take a risk in taking it just like anything else, but there will be slightly less issues as it is diluted. I cannot say how much less as each individual has their own level of sensitivity.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I do understand the concept of prescribing a homeopathic remedy for a specific person at a specific point in time; what you're referring to is a 'constitutional' remedy, correct?
I have tried going to a few homeopaths locally and it seemed to me that what they were practicing was pretty much as much trial and error as what I can do! It wasn't right, so they tried something else. And this happened over and over, until they finally found something that helped, at least somewhat.
Although for IBS none of them have ever found anything that did anything whatsoever.
The only homeopath that did not seem to work with what came over to me as trial and error, was a Medical Doctor in Belgium who had also studied homeopathy. But I never did go to him for IBS; I probably should have.
I currently live in the US (Northern California) and haven't found one that seems to be able to accurately find the right remedy for me, at any time!
So yes, I try to read and do research myself as much as possible and try to figure it out, rather than spend a bunch of money on someone who can't figure it out anyway....
 
ewink last decade
Unfortunately the success you get with any treatment relies on the skill of the homoeopath. In many countries it is a fairly unregulated industry, and the consumer takes his health into his own hands because of this lack of care by the government and the community. Your story is not uncommon, although it is a story you hear from people pursing many therapies not just homoeopathy. In attempting to keep its monopoly, orthodox medicine has deliberately or neglectfully created a terrible situation for people wanting to pursue non-orthodox options.

If you wanted to describe your problem I am happy to take on your case - there is a limit to how much can be done without the face-to-face component of case management, but if the patient is expressive enough, can communicate well by writing, then beneficial remedies can be prescribed.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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