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Baby Shots--Vaccinations are dangerous to your babies


Childhood vaccinations are given as a general “custom” without permission from the parents before two years of age. Please, for the sake of the health of your young children, do not get immunization shots the doctor gives, sometimes even without your permission. The shots mess up the immune system of the little bodies, big time, sometimes forever.

Vaccination shots are full of heavy metals. There is an ongoing study that “baby shots” may cause Autism. Look it up on the net. The study is many years long. Although there is no proof as yet, but, what if your child is one of those?

Surely you understand that metals, including mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde in a tiny baby’s body is not good??

You do NOT have to do everything your MDietie (allopathic doctor) says. You are paying them to help you in ways you want, not ways THEY want. Take responsibility for your own children; do not “hand” them over to another as if you have no intelligence and no say in the matter. Do not be intimidated or passive.

We used to be able, as adult americans, to go to “need to know” books and sites, to find out anything we wished to know about AMA and so on. Our Constitution’s first amendment insured freedom of speech through which our right to know has in the past been upheld. We cannot do this now.

The doors have been closed to us by corporations, because of “proprietary patent information.” This means they do not have to tell us anything! This began after the civil war in 1886 when someone added corporations on a supreme court ruling about citizenship rights for freed slaves. This set a precedent from that time that all corporations were natural persons with equal protection rights under the law. We are at the mercy of our government, the AMA and the pharmaceutical companies (all corporations) to bring us completely under their control. It is all about money and power. THEY DO NOT CARE if their products kill or disable, they just want the money.

Many years ago people died all the time from diseases that haven’t been seen in years. Even though they are seldom seen, due to the careful immunizations of the past, they were not always given to tiny infants. The doctors have been trained so diligently as to be obsessed and blinded to the very real dangers of the baby shots and the “possible” benefits vs more probable life-long side effects.

Babies have not stopped developing at birth and way into the second year. Vaccinations interfere with this physical development. The colostrum of nursing mothers give protection to their infants.

Homeopathy has all the immunizations you need for your children. Now you need to know there is a condition concerning this. To go to school, the law says the children must be immunized. So, if you have had homeopathy for your children, unless you have a MD to back you up, you must sign a paper saying it is against your religion to give allopathic immunizations to your children. I think we agree their health is worth it.

Now, here is the paradox...we cannot PRAY in school, by law, BUT religion is the only authority to make it legal to NOT give allopathic immunizations to your children!!!

If you are reading this, you are interested in alternative remedies for your families. If you do not understand homeopathy, read: “Homeopathy, Medicine for the 21st Century” by Dana Ullman. And “The Science of Homeopathy” by George Vithouldas. These can be found on the net, cheaper second-hand.

Chicken Pox vaccine was tested in a third world, poor, country. The US government promised health benefits. This "testing" killed many of their children while gov adjusted the formula!

Now, gov is giving it to our children. Mothers of these children are developing SHINGLES from their child's shot. Shingles is an adult outbreak from having had chicken pox as a child. No, it doesn't ALWAYS happen. The CP virus stays in the spinal cord and may pop out unexpectedly.

Shingles is a nerve endings outbreak that is extremely painfull, itching, bumps, rash, and raw sores. I had it, couldn't believe the pain. Takes weeks to heal, leaves small scars.

Chicken Pox is not a life-threatening children’s illness. It is itchy, feverish and if cared for well, the children recover with very little scaring. Measles are more severe. Watch fever more closely, give liquids and keep room dim because eyes are at risk. Several homeopathic remedies get children through it without much trouble. One difficulty of measles is that children need to have it (before school) so that later pregnant women are not exposed to it. Measles may cause miscarriage or deformity of fetus.

Continue to learn and investigate. Too many antibiotics finally cause the body to become immune to them and no help is found for the infections, etc. There are people everywhere that have had various infections since infancy and as adults are afraid to go out into the world for fear of infection, knowing no antibiotics will work for them.

Antibiotics suppress the illness/infection, not really healing, but suppression. This means the infection shows it’s head again and again. Each time an antibiotic is given, there are some side effects. THEN one tries to treat the side effect, thinking it is another problem of the body, and so on. It is like a dog chasing it’s own tail.

(Quotes) My child has so many colds. My child has a cough that comes and goes and I can’t find out what to do about it. My doctor says my child’s cough is really asthma. There are numerous respiratory problems that children develop from time to time. This does not necessarily mean it is asthma! Doctors have been trained to “name” everything. They bring fear and uncertainty to young mothers who then learn to depend on them.

Homeopaths see It as a set of conditions in the body. Then we go to our books and compare remedies in this group of symptoms and choose one that most matches the set of conditions of that body. Even if we think we already know the remedy, we more than likely will still check the book.

Fever is the body’s effort to self-cure. The fever is burning out the infection. Do not give “over the counter” stuff to lower the fever. That’s all it does, no healing takes place. With homeopathy, the chosen remedy lowers the fever AS IT HEALS. Homeopathy does not interfere with the body’s natural processes.

“My child keeps having earaches,” but it is more than likely the SAME ONE, because the antibiotics suppressed it until it released again. What released it, who knows, but it is not as important as the fact that it had not healed in the first place.

Do not believe everything you see on TV. The government has a hand in everything the media says about news in the world. TV is negative hypnosis to the average person and especially the children!! Why do you think they demand so much more from the parents? Corporations set up marketing to hypnotize your children to “crave” this. One recent ad I saw was a young woman searching her closet for something to wear. The punch line was: “If it is not new, it is not in style!” The punch line is punching us out unless we can “think” through it and take it seriously.

Children have been controlled by the commercials to a fine pitch of desire for that product!! They have no concept of the limits of money. They MUST have it, no matter what!! TV has ruined the ethics of our children and confused their purpose in life and their natural understanding how things work that they were born with. They have become like addicts.

Wake up! Take responsibility for yourself and your family. Don’t hand yourself or your family over to another person without any say so in the treatment. Ask questions. Do not foolishly demand a magic pill for everything. Do your OWN research! STOP being passive.

Actually, we are the blame for the activities of the AMA, the doctors and etc. We foolishly demand doctors hold our hands and promise our immediate recovery as if by magic. Years ago beginning around the 20s, we began to demand more and more as if we were not responsible for ourselves, but the doctors. So if things did not go well, it is the fault of the doctor.

When the first antibiotics were developed, the swing to the magic pills became in so demand by the childish public, the pharmaceutical ((corporations) saw this as a gold mine and got to work producing more and more for the demand. This is not to say that in the beginning it was wonderful to see children get well and childhood disease eradicated. But, by the 50s it became big business. Now there was research for every little thing. Natural healing solutions were then copied into chemical replacements. The companies took the natural and made up a chemical that was “similar” in action.

Fluoride is a natural substance that helps strengthen teeth against cavities. It is no longer used. Scientists found that the by-product of manufacturing aluminum was “similar” to this natural substance and decided to use this aluminum by-product to paint your children’s teeth. Aluminum gets in the brain and decreases the abilities of the brain and has been known to cause a staggering gait in many affected.

What about the TV ad about what to take if one has to pee too often? Do you listen to the side effects? One is “do not take if you have a urinary infection” Well, DUH!! The probable reason for the problem in the first place!! TV is negative hypnosis to separate you from your money.

Have you ever read that long small text letter that now comes with your prescription? This is written by lawyers to protect the company that makes the pill, and the pharmacy that sells it to you, AND the doctor that prescribed it to you.

And, who is protecting your child, your family? YOU!

Vaccine under scrutiny after deaths.
Steven Morris 28.8.2000.
The safety of the meningitis immunization program came under scrutiny yesterday when it emerged that 11 people have died following injections
Health officials insisted the deaths were not connected to the injection and maintained the program was completely safe but the handling of the issue was criticized.

Since the immunization program began last year, more than 16,000 "adverse reactions" to the vaccine have been reported to the medicines control agency.
A Department of Health spokeswoman said two of the 11 had heart conditions, two died of group B meningitis - for which there is no vaccine - and one of a convulsion 10 days after the injection. The six others died of cot death. (There is a Nova video about Meningitis you can buy for $25 at Boston video 1-800-255-9424. )

She added that the number of adverse reactions - which can range from a minor headache to death - was not unusual for the scale of the Program, the first in Europe. Officials from the Meningitis Research Foundation and was Meningitis Trust said they were certain that immunization was saving lives.

The shadow health secretary, Liam Fox, said he was angry that no minister had come forward to quell public anxiety. "If the public suspects that the government is withholding information, there is a danger they will lose confidence in the program. The only way to dispel this is for a minister to say there is no basis for it.” They have the right to withhold as the suppliers are corporations.

Instead they are hiding behind civil servants. That is stupid and cowardly. Ministers are paid to take responsibility." John Fletcher, of the vaccination campaign group, Justice Awareness Basic Support said- "They always say there is no problem. Parents need to have all the information so they can make a balanced so they can make a balanced judgement. We are no longer allowed the information. Corporations have more rights than the human.

We have had many calls from parents whose children have suffered adverse reactions and believe the program was introduced too quickly. In effect, ordinary people are the guinea pigs.

Re: Allopathic immunizations and antibiotics
2004-12-05 CHARLES TAYLOR ------IN ATLANTA GEORGIA ---- major CA DAILY BULLETIN 7/11/1986

IN A NORTHEAST Atlanta warehouse, more that, 40 million doses of swine influenza vaccine, in cold storage since 1976, await a government decision for disposal.
The vials of vaccine, reminders of America's big' swine flu scare a decade ago, have not been checked for potency in the last two years and their eventual fate is unknown, said officials of the National Center for Disease Control.

Ten years ago, Federal Health Authorities launched an unprecedented national Campaign to vaccinate millions of Americans against an expected onslaught of a potent influenza strain they believed would strike 50 to 60 million US citizens.

Virologists said the virus. was the same, or closely related to, the flu agent that in 1918 killed 548,452 Americans and 21 million world wide in the greatest plague of modern times.
On October 1, 1976 after many delays, the $135 million federally funded inoculation program got under way at public clinics across the country.
The funds were sufficient to pay for 200 million doses of Vaccine in history's first national effort to immunize an entire population against a major disease.

Ten weeks later on December 16, 1976 the CDC suspended the program after it received reports that some vaccine recipients contracted a type of paralysis known as Guillian-Barre syndrome . It was indefinitely called off as evidence mounted that the paralysis and the vaccine might be linked.
A total of 43 million Americans received inoculations but the expected swine flu epidemic never occurred. After initial cases among army recruits at Fort Dix, New Jersey, in February 1976, one of them fatal, only a handful of similar. infections were reported to the CDC’s nationwide surveillance .system, proving once again the unpredictable nature of the flu virus.

The government, which had insured the vaccine manufacturers against damage suits, was 'faced :with millions of dollars in claims by individuals who said they became paralyzed after being immunized with the vaccine. . So popular we were such lawsuits that a legal 'specialty ' developed around filing Guillian Barre claims aims against the US Govt. A Federal Judge awarded a Scranton Pennsylvanian , woman $3.9 million .

The CDC's heretofore spotless reputation as the world's premier health organization the agency playing a leading role at that time in eradicating smallpox from the world was blemished. Federal immunization programs, especially its flu vaccination efforts, were called into question. There were other repercussions. Dr David J. Spencer, Assistant Surgeon General and CDC director, who came under heavy fire for recommending the national immunization program to then President Gerald Ford, resigned his post.

Spencer's colleagues, 10 years later, said the CDC director made the correct decision based on information available to him at the time. The fact that he got canned for it is political history, not scientific history,,, said Dr Donald Millar, who was coordinator of CDC's swine flu task force and is currently director of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.
Spencer after leaving CDC for worked for a drug firm until he became Commissioner of Public Health for New York city He now is with a private company,. Management Science for Health, in Boston.

Dr Alan' Hinman director of the a CDC's Immunization Division, also said Spencer's decision for a national ,immunization program was correct

Millar said there are several scientific mysteries posed by the nation's swine flu. experience:' What happened to the virus after its first appearance at Fort Dix, New Jersey? How did .the army . recruit who died, *Private David Lewis, contracted the virus?. And we never figured out what it was in that vaccine jug that made people get Guillain Barre., he said. UPI ............Passkey.

I know what was in the “jug.” Another “secret” 14 page government document about a bacteria/virus was put together with the United States, England and Canada in 1942. A pathogen was developed to control humanity. First tested with diseased mosquitos in Punta Gorda, Florida in 1950. (like West Nile today?) This was the first sign of Guillain Barre, Fibromyalgia, MS, Lupus, and other obscure illnesses that there was no medicine for. And still none. This is the extent of our governments’ desire to rule the world.....Sabra
  sabra on 2005-05-08
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I truly liked your post and I agree with you.
I have a story for you. Three years ago, I began suffering from this virus infection that made me have severe uncontrollable coughing and at the same time I could not breathe. It was so bad and felt so horrible that I would begin to panic and I would turn red in the face. I went to the doctor and I was given with little thought, two puffers (usually used for asthma) and a package of pills (also usually used for asthma. This didn't help any and it just seemed to increase my anxiousness as I could not stop the way I felt. I then went to the walk-in clinic and was told to take Prednisone (medication used only in hospitals for severe respiratory distress). No one indicated to me the side effects. I took it with the thought that I could trust the doctor, and soon after, began to experience all sorts of horrible symptoms associated with what was indicated to me later as mental illness, but it was more than that. My head felt like it would explode in pain, I had throbbing pains where I could hear my heartbeat in my head, cognitive dysfunction such as visual distortion. Passing by the isles of the grocery store was the worst because as I tried to focus on the things on the shelves, I could not focus and it caused me extreme anxiety, depression and anger. Everything looked as if it rushed by my face. I also could not tell what went on in the background. Everything I saw was narrow to me. I felt so abnormal, that it lead me to feel so depressed that I wanted to die, but I guess through God's grace I persevered. Yet, for 3 months I didn't get out of bed. Surprisingly, being still in bed and watching tv was still somewhat bearable and so I did that while I waited for the doctor to make a diagnoses and when finally the doctor (after a month) told me I was having some kind of psychosomatic disorder, I waited still 2 months for an appointment. I told the doctor the Prednisone had done that to me, but she brushed it off saying that it was impossible. I knew better because I had experienced it during the last few doses of my medication, which was brought on after taking the medication. I know now how dangerous steroidal anti-inflammatories are for you and I refuse them always. I have never taken a puffer since for any kind of difficulty breathing. I eventually found a website that indicated all the side effects of Prednisone that the doctor had hid from me including psychosis, hallucinations, depression, etc. If that is a fact, then why do allopathic doctors insist on prescribing them? I can understand why they prescribe them to people who have asthma, but can't they at least try to diagnose you properly first? They give medications out like candy.
Anyways, for 3 years I had to take enormous doses of an anti-depressant called Paxil. It was a miracle drug for me. Now it's in the garbage. Why? This last May I injured my spine, the same day I went to take my usual dosage of Paxil and I began having chest pains which were so horrible I thought I would die. Nothing like the chest pains I had when I had anxiety. I stopped it immediately and told my doctor I couldn't take them no more. He said ok. I was symptom free for 2 months. Suddenly I began to experience some nerve pain in my legs, so I went back to the doctor and he prescribed me a drug called Amitriptyline, which is now used for neuropathic pain and migraines. It worked alright although all the pain didn't go away. I complained about this and also that I was getting headaches too and sometimes got a little angry and irritable. So he decided to put me on a different anti-depressant (i guess he thought they all worked the same way), called Wellbutrin. I began to have the most horrible headaches and I began to remember the Prednisone poisoning I had previously, so I instantly took myself off the drug. Since then I had constant deep headaches, throbbing headaches, etc. so I went back and now I was being prescribed an anti-psychotic called Risperdal. The Risperdal not only did not make my headaches go away, it caused other types of headaches behind my head. I felt horrible. I could not understand why I was going from one anti-depressant to another and now anti-psychotics without result as I truly believed also that I was mentally ill once again. A few weeks later I found out from Children's aid, who had been involved in my life that my doctor had said I was suffering hallucinations. What in the world made him think that? I have NEVER in 4 years of my life had those kinds of symptoms even though the Prednisone could have caused them beforehand. Since when does someone in severe pain not feel irritable and angry? It's a normal emotion. I called the doctor up, now threatening with a malpractice lawsuit, he tells me I was incoherent. I asked him what does incoherence have to do with hallucinating. I found out recently that I have been suffering from migraines (completely different from depression and anxiety) and I may have a bad jaw.
Again I was not only misdiagnosed, I was now being "labelled" as forever mentally ill. Once you suffer from it, the allopathic doctor always think to call you that.

veralucia last decade
SABRA --- welcome back!

Couldnt agree more.
walkin last decade
I am new to this website and I just read Sabras opinion about shots. I do agree with what was said, because I also heard a story about doctors diagnosing wrong. I myself am from Germany and lived here for 1.5 years. I was introduced to Homeopathy thru my midwife who care for me while I was pregnant with my first child. She cared for me and for my newborn and treated us with homeopathic remedies.
I just had my Baby give her second pair of shots and am really concerned about possible side effects. I wish I would have read this earlier. Anyway, what does homoepathy how to protect the kids against those deseases?
Heike last decade

This is a great article. It is well written and provides a lot of information.

Do these books talk about remedies used to vaccinate?

Homeopathy, Medicine for the 21st Century” by Dana Ullman. And “The Science of Homeopathy” by George Vithouldas

Can you share with us remedies that are used in place of vaccines?

Are all religions exempt from vaccinations? I am not familiar with any religion that makes it wrong to vaccinate. Might have to change religions if necessary to save our kids.

I purchased a book once on the dangerous reactions to vaccinations but it did not make it CLEAR how to go about exerting our right to refuse them. The author provided a form to give to the doctor, but even the author seemed unsure we could legally refuse to vaccinate our kids. The author seemed kind of flaky.

Please help with this serious issue. Thanks
Pat2006 last decade
So true... my family is living proof of what you speak of... recoveredfromautism dot com.

To answer regarding vaccination exemptions, every state in the union has exemption laws (the right to exempt your child from the mandated vaccintions). However, some are more stringent than others. For example, the state of WV only allows medical exemptions (meaning a doctor has to write a letter saying your child is contraindicated to vaccinating and let me tell you that will almost never happen). But for another example, Maine has 3, medical, religious, and philosophical. Philosophical is obviously the best choice. In some states, you must go to court and prove your religious beliefs in order to use the exemption. Google vaccination exemptions by state or something similar and you can find your state and its law.

In Maine, you just need to write a letter to be presented to the school which specifically states the law and which exemption you are taking and the reasons for taking it. But in other states, it's not so easy and many parents end up homeschooling.

Hope that helps.
busymominme last decade

Have all of your kids been exposed to vaccinations?

Have they all suffered bad and long term consequences?
Pat2006 last decade

I am convinced that vaccines hurt all of us. Most of us been vaccinated and we are suffering from their affects to the present moment. They may not be obvious to us because we were too young when we got vaccinated. And our parents just thought it was normal to be sick from them unless something very serious happened like autism, etc.

I have been giving a lot of thought to my continual health problems all of my life and am seriously pin pointing it to the vaccines received as a child. We all live with an immune system that has been injured by vaccines that leave us TOO vulnerable to diseases. Then we blame it on stress. I am beginning to wonder just how wimpy humans are that can’t adapt to stress.


I found a website where the author made it clear that it is not easy to get exempt from vaccines because authorities fight the parents? What are we to do?

Does anyone know of any organizations out there?. I just cannot believe that no one out there has organized to exert our rights to refuse vaccinations. If I find any, I will post them here.

Thanks busymom for replying and thanks again Sabra for a great post.
Pat2006 last decade
Hey Pat,
I think that you do not necessarily have to belong to a specific religion that is against vaccinating as a whole. In the US, it depends on your pediatrician whether they want to keep seeing you if don't want to vaccinate. The exemptions really only come into play when you send your children to public school. (Also each state has recommended schedules for specific vaccines and aren't necessarily the same as what the CDC recommends but this is also what your doctor will recommend. For instance, my child received two extra shots that public school doesn't mandate, only for daycares and preschools. No one bothered to ask me if I planned to send my kids to daycare or preschool. They just say these are the shots you need.) When you are ready to put your children in public school you just have to verify that immunizations are against your personal religious beliefs - if you can verify with scripture or other doctrine it is helpful, but "the assumption by some that the "religious beliefs" of an individual must be dictated by the policy of some church is patently wrong.

Black’s Law Dictionary provides these definitions:

RELIGION: "Man’s relation to Divinity, to reverence, worship, obedience, and submission to mandates and precepts of supernatural or superior beings. In its broadest sense includes all forms of belief in the existence of superior beings exercising power over human beings by volition, imposing rules of conduct, with future rewards and punishments. Bond uniting man to God, and a virtue whose purpose is to render God worship due him as source of all being and principle of all government of things." (Nikulnikoff v. Archbishop, etc., of Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church, 142 Misc. 894, 255 N.Y.S. 653,663)

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM: "Within Constitution embraces not only the right to worship God according to the dictates of one’s conscience, but also the right to do, or forbear to do, any act, for conscience sake, the doing or forbearing of which is not inimical to the peace, good order, and morals of society." (Barnette v. West Virginia State Board of Education, D.C.W.Va. 47 F. Supp. 251, 253,254; Jones v. City of Moultrie, 196 Ga. 526,27 S.E. 2d 39)~~wwwdotgvaldotcom

There are many helpful sites that help you with sample letters, knowledge about certain states exemptions, ect. Many schools (around here) do not fight it from the beginning if it is well-written stating your constitutional rights (actually printing the exerpts is helpful).

all www in front:

mercola dotcom
vaclib dotorg
momsonamissionforautism dotorg
unhinderedliving dotcom
WNCGirl last decade
Hello WNCgirl

Thank you for your very encouraging post.

I did find another helpful sight that we may be able to count on for assistance if necessary.


If we can find a homeopath who is also a medical doctor, we might be able to easily get an exemption.


What are your thoughts on why we are allowed exemptions and at the same time it is not common knowledge? It's like the schools/gov doesn't want us to know what our rights are conserning this issue. Can you, please, shed some light on this? Thanks again.
Pat2006 last decade
I have a few thoughts on this:

I think that the government (including school systems) may be just as fearful as the parents and even doctors. I think this fear is handed down to all of us from the "chemists" in the pharmaceutical companies which is handed down to them by their leaders. I think the pharmaceutical companies don't even know what they believe, but money is ultimately what persuades them to make everyone believe what they want them to believe.

We are allowed exemptions because our inalienable rights stated in the constitution (our religious freedoms) were here before all of these vaccines/ big pharma/ etc. It is not common knowledge because people "the masses" want to believe that the "authority" only wants what is best for us as a people/nation/world and would not imagine they would do things that are harmful to us intentionally in the name of power and money. The people gaining money and power from this do not want us to be aware of our constitutional rights - and besides it's easy for them because there are so many people who don't even know what their constitional rights are and trust the authority on the matter without question. Who gives people their credentials? Colleges give degrees based on their own system of learning/knowledge gained - they tell us what they want us to learn and test us only on this and then say we are qualified for this or that. What makes them the authority? Who told them they know more than any one else, or what they teach us is the only way to think or believe? Most change is created by people who do not follow the norm. Freud changed psychology and most everyone thought he was a loon - (and alot still do), but nonetheless, he changed people's perceptions. Most associations are founded by people that just put themselves in charge, through manipulating other people to believe they know more or better than someone else. People don't know any different, whether they are mentally incapable or what. If the pharmaceutical companies are the authority on vaccines and disease, then the schools and government and even doctors are a part of the masses. Look at television for instance - just watch the 6:00 news and count how many commercials advertise drugs. These are coming from the pharmaceutical companies. They are paying news broadcast companies to air them. They also are influencing the news we see and hear. Authority plays on our fears to make our decsions. If it were common knowledge, do you think they want us to to question anything they say if there is a possibility they could lose money from it? People in power are scared of rebellion. Just follow the herd and everything will be okay (they even use religion to make you believe it's what "God" wants). Don't be a blacksheep, don't think for yourself, we know better than you. Who would follow them then? Who would give them their money? The government pays for the shots just like everyone else does. I think the government, doctors, and schools are all brainwashed by pharmaceutical companies along with the rest of the public. They don't want us to know because they are scared of finding out the truth as well, which would ultimately lose money for them, hence the lack of research on long-term side effects of vaccinations. And the ones that choose to do research aren't counted because they aren't the "authority" on the matter, unless their findings are useful for big pharma. (Did you also know that a major pharmaceutical company today is also in the oil business -which was his first business- and also funded research during WWII for Nazi Germany?) Same company wants us to use petroleum based products for the eczema they are giving us through vaccinations. Money, population control, power, and more money. There is no money in the cure - only treatment of symptoms. I'm sure I have more thoughts on the matter, but these are the things I thought of when you asked.

WNCGirl last decade
WNCGirl I agree with you completely. So nice not to feel so alone in what I know about power and money. At one time, I thought it was my "loony" thinking that seemed to separate me from others, but one day I asked a financial advisor for something in print on what they invest our money on and guess who is at the top of the charts? Oil and Drug companies? I'm sure I have the pamphlet in a file somewhere. Cause it is way too disturbing to know exactly where in my house it is.

Thanks so much!!!
Pat2006 last decade
My oldest daughter - developed "sensory integration dysfunction" and "ADD" after getting measles from the MMR at 18 months. It was almost comical the way the doctor tried to dismiss it at the visit - "Oh yes, by the way, she has the measles...it's typical after 10 days from the vaccination." Great -- would have been good to know beforehand. She is also mercury toxic from the thimerosal.

My youngest (8 months) is not and will not be vaccinated.

I developed the measles and mumps after an MMR revax in college after which I developed severe allergies to everything - all foods, environment, even exercise. I developed Guillan Barre syndrome, and "Chronic fatigue syndrome." It seriously ruined my health - and that of my children.

My brother lost his hearing after his MMR as a baby. Obviously, our family is contraindicated to vaccinating. Too bad it took me so long to figure it out.

Unfortunately, we are in the minority and the general public is completely brainwashed into believing if we don't vaccinate, we are basically amoral and are jepordizing world health. Sorry - what's good for the masses is not good for my children. I won't spare them for anyone.

It's frustrating but I still respect every parent's right to choose what's best for their child. I only wish I was given the same respect.
busymominme last decade
Some information that might be useful.

For Homeopathic Vaccinations look at:-

To fight the establishment and schools look at:-

To see how destructive vaccines are, look at:-
This link above will break the toughest parent and insure they DON'T EVER give their children another "shot".

God bless,
TimCam last decade
Great article-unfortunately the first vaccination nowdays is done in the hospital-parents are excited or scared or who knows what else and wishing the best for their babies put the poison in the blood.My own stupidity made me put the vaccinations but I am done -I wish that they have had some info at the Doctor's Office while you are pregnant but then you are reading other stuff.........
mimichka last decade
Of course, what you don't get to read on those websites are the heart-rending stories of people who lose their babies and children to easily preventable diseases.

There's a reason why some countries have no incidences of 'killer' diseases, while other countries are riddled with them, and thousands of people die every year...
ZepOz last decade
Hi ZEP OZ and everyone else, I had a lot of problems with my G.P. because after months of agonising research, worry and doubt and everything you can imagine as a mother wanting to do the best for her child, i was given a mouthful of abuse for quoting to my doctor about the manufacturers instructions that actually my child should def not get vaccinated because of my family history, and i can tell you, besides the crap they put in the vaccs, once its in there ya cant take it back, my child could have been seriously damaged if i had have let my doctor bully me any further, he was a disgrace and i had to leave the room with my 2mth old baby undressed in the cold in front of a lod of parents who were waiting for over an hour to make sure their kids didn't react(what a joke) give your kids the jab and go on outside there and wait for an hour till we see if your child is goin to be ok, well as a responsible parent, i did my homework, the doctor didn't do his, he's not interested in the family history or anything else even the child's weight and health, all he was interested in was makin his quota, i'm just a number.... well i can tell you, the doctors oath,,(FIRST DO NO HARM) is a joke. i wont put down all GP.s but their not pharmocologists and their not worried about the consequences of injecting them kids, because there is none, i'd really like to see how many doctors will give the jab if theres a risk of them being sued by law, dont think they'd be thinking of their pockets then. anyway i've a lot i can tell you about vaccs, not biased stuff, hard facts and enough family who were injured through them too. ignorance is bliss
thank god we have a choice in the UK but still made to feel like crap
elainesmyth68 last decade
it's only common sence that because of the baby shots the health department is able to determine how many kids will develope certian problems to keep the hospitals filled: if the hospitals are not full they lose money!
ok, so mindless parents allow so called specialist' educated guesser , those with letters after their names ' to determine what is best for their families: even when it has been proven that all medicine has severe side effects , possible death: then knowing this gamble with their good health: if your baby is healthy , why give them a death sentence?
this is a fact that all should know = when one naturally gets the childhood illnesses , they are 100% FREE OF GETTING IT AGAIN and NOT ANY SIDE EFFECTS!!!!! WHERE AS , WHEN A CHILD GETS THESE SHOTS , THEY CAN GET THE ILLNESSES AGAIN AND OTHER SIDE EFFECTS: measles are the same as 5ths desease! those who recieve baby shots get both! better then shots is mothers breast milk and bathing!!!!homeopathy and prayer is safe.
frenchis19 last decade
I'm 6 months pregnant and starting to think about my babys shots already. I'm very nervous about giving them to her. My brother was given his shots at 15 months old he was fine until that day. After reciveing his shots he started to have seizure's. His seizures have never stop he is now 27. He still has the mind of a 15 month old, he has severe mental retardation, seizure disorder, mild cerebal palsy, and autisum. My mother has proved to the court system that the vaccinations were the cause of all this. He was a awarded a lot of money to take care of his needs for the rest of his life. But the quailty of his life has been taken from him. All due to his shots that were highly recommended by his doctor. I'm concerned about giving my daughter her's when shes of age. I'm also concerned about the diesases that she could get by not having them. My mother gave her other children their shots knowing what they did to one of her kids and they are fine. I'm planning on doing more research I do have plenty of time. But if anyone knows of any helpful web sites it would be appreciated.
Thank you
tiffytwolils last decade
Hi Tiffany

Please refer to TimCam's posts on this link:


You can also start reading info. from websites like www.mercola.com, http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/ on issues of vaccination and how to avoid them.
maheeru last decade
Remember: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

Compleat Mother Magazine http://www.CompleatMother.com/
A Baby is Born http://www.universalway.org/ababyisborn.html
Raising Inact Sons http://www.geocities.com/raisingintactsons/
Israeli Parents' Group, Kahal (in Hebrew)
Bornfree: http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/
Brit Shalom, a peaceful celebration: http://www.circumstitions.com/Jewish-shalom.html
Father Magazine http://www.fathermag.com/

Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC) http://www.arclaw.org/
Complaints Against Physicians http://www.circumvent.org/
Historical Medical Quotes

Israeli Association Opposing Genital Mutilation (in Hebrew)
International Coalition for Genital Integrity http://www.icgi.org
'How The Foreskin Works' (animation)
Israel: Gonen Al Hayeled (Protect the Child) (website in Hebrew)
CIRP http://www.cirp.org
Institute of Humanistic Science http://www.violence.de/
NOCIRC http://www.nocirc.org/
Book: http://www.SexAsNatureIntendedIt.com
NOHARM http://www.noharmm.org
INFO http://www.infocirc.org/
Intact http://www.intact.ca/

Other resources can be found at http://www.PEACEFULBEGINNINGS.cjb.net, http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org,
http://www.circumcision.org (Dr. Ronald Goldman's website),
http://www.DOCTORSOPPOSINGCIRCUMCISION.org, and http://www.Nurses.cirp.org.
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
Homeopathy International 1 last decade

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