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Antral Gastritis

Dear. Dr. I have been suffering from stomach problem since last 3 years, I have now got endoscopy done and it reveals it to be antral gastritis i.e. inflamation at the end of the stomach...

My symptoms are i start feeling infalamatory at the end of the stomach after having had meal... I have used Nat Phos 6X 3 tabs thrice a day after meal, which helped by first enhancing the symptoms and then decreasing gradually. during the course i took spicy food and symptoms reverted that i had to take alopathic medicine again, as nat phos alone wasnt working, what do you have to suggest me now as i have just started using nat phos 6x with alophatic medicine but should i take 4 tablets, 3 tablets or just 2 tablets as you have been advising to take 2 tablets...
  kbilalsa on 2011-06-04
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Please visit the link below which is of another patient whom I am treating on the ABC and follow the same therapy precisely as prescribed:


You will not need the Robina Pseudacacia 3c that I have prescribed to the other patient.

Please note that you cannot expect a quick fix of your problem which can take a few months to be resolved.

I note that you have taken Nat Phos 6x but you did not respond positively so far as you have not taken the Arnica 30c which is an integral part of my therapy aka 'Joepathy'

Report progress weekly.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Mr. Joe, Yes I was reading your conversation with an other patient.. my symptoms are that i feel inflamatory feelings gradualy increasing after meal and when as soon the burp ends it inflames from where burp feels to be originating...

You didnt comment on my using nat phos with alopathic medicine, can i use Arnica 30c along with alopathy .. and is it 30c or 6c???
[message edited by kbilalsa on Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:15:16 BST]
kbilalsa last decade
My apologies for not noticing that you are also using drugs which I presume are the usual PPI or Proton Pump Inhibitors which are designed to reduce the flow of acid.

I would like you to Google:
'Danger of using PPI drugs'
Read the many cases that have misfired and the reports of how these drugs have affected patients when used in the long run.

You must STOP all other drugs if you use my Joepathy.
Joe De Livera last decade
OK, I then STOP other drugs and I shall report you .. weekly .. Please tell me how many drops of Arnica 30c (is it a tincture))to be taken?? and how long before or after meal, about Nat Phos 6X how many tablets immediatly after meal???
[message edited by kbilalsa on Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:11:55 BST]
kbilalsa last decade
My apologies that I did not give you instructions to make the Wet dose as it was on the other link I gave you.

Here it is for you:

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Joe De Livera last decade
I have obtained 10ml dilution of Arnica 30 (Arnica montana)made of willmar schewabe... i have got 500 ml plastic bottle of mineral water from the market, poured out 3cm from it and have dipped 3 dropes in the whole bottol.. now I have to get a capfull to take as a dose twice a day before half an hour a meal...

To my surprise this is a very very much diluted dose, because while purchasing Arnica 30 i asked the pharmacist the recommended dose and he told me 5 dropes in a half cup of water and you are advising just 3 drops in whole 500 ml bottol.. i am confused.. kindly give me the reasoning please... Thanks
kbilalsa last decade
Please follow the therapy I have prescribed literally as this therapy has been prescribed and used by many patients who have been helped and some cured by it.

3 drops does seem to be a very diluted dose but your pharmacist has obviously not heard of succussion which comprises shaking the bottle hard at least 6 times before a capful or a large teaspoonful of the water remedy in the bottle is sipped.

Please type WET DOSE into Google to read the many cases that I have treated with this method.

Arnica is best taken on an empty stomach and last thing at night for best effect.

3 or 4 tablets of Nat Phos 6x must be taken immediately after a meal thrice daily.

Report your response as often as you wish to enable me to advise you.
Joe De Livera last decade
Ok.. so the way i have made my wet dose above is Alright?? I have last one confusion for you to please clarify .. and that is.. 500ml water bottle would take long to be consumed, so wouldnt the water get slightly contaminated eventually.. as you know we hardly use a water being in a bottle since last 5 days, we tend to use the fresh one, so this factor would not count here...???
kbilalsa last decade
Ok.. I have few more questions please

1) The way I have made my wet dose above is Right??
2) 500ml water bottle takes long to be consumed, so wouldnt the water get slightly contaminated eventually.. as you know we hardly use bottled water being there since last couple of days once it's been sealed off, we tend to use the fresh one, so this factor would not count here...???
3) can i use arnica thrice a day half hour before every meal??? or I should take first dose before breakfast (because that time stomach is empty) .. and second dose before sleeping...??

Kindly consider the fact before summarizing the doses, that i have been on alopathic medicines on and off since last 8 months consistently and suffering from this disease since last 3 years but have roots in last 10 years...
[message edited by kbilalsa on Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:15:22 BST]
kbilalsa last decade
As you may be aware, I was the first Homeopath to promote the use of the Wet dose after I was converted to it in 2005 by a close friend who is a world renowned Homeopath who visited Sri Lanka in 2005. At that time it would be correct to state that 99% of the practicing homeopaths had not even heard of the Wet dose.

As a result of my using it exclusively and also promoting it on my website and the other Homeopathic forums I visit daily, I believe that many homeopaths have followed my example.

I have not found any reason to change the water in the bottle for many months and I use a 350ml bottle of spring water which is sterile which I medicate with the remedy which is usually in the Liquid Dilution in Alcohol of which I use just 3 drops per bottle. I use the cap as the measure for a dose as it is always at hand instead of looking for a teaspoon which if not really clean can affect the remedy.

You can certainly change the water as often as you wish as long as you follow my instructions to make the Wet dose which I have given above.

You may also refrigerate the bottle but be warned that the next thirsty person will finish it mistaking it for cooled water which in any case it is if located inside a refrigerator.
Joe De Livera last decade
My Apologies !!! this is just a detailed answer of my 2nd question only, kindly answer 1st and 3rd questions also ... Thank you so much ..
kbilalsa last decade
The split dose has been used for homoeopaths for many decades. My teachers taught me the split dose in the early 1990s, right out of the Organon of Medicine and our student clinic encouraged us to use this method with both centesimal and LM potencies. I used split dose on and off for the last 20 years. Many homoeopaths have been using it. Certainly not enough - and we are indebted to Hahnemann as the inventor of the method, and to Dr. Du Schepper who brought the debate about dosage into full view of the homoeopathic community. I am grateful to him for making it clear why we should ALWAYS be using it. However. it was not a secret, and it is incorrect to say 99% of homoeopaths were not using it.

My mentor during college was a staunch proponent of split dose, the very dedicated Deborah Ray who has spent many years in India working with the poor and sick. She was spreading the use of the split dose then amongst Indian homoeopathic doctors who were far too sceptical of the small dose to let go of the idea of using pills.

Homoeopaths followed Dr. Du Schepper's example. Why take away from him this achievement?
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Mr. Roe, the detail you have provided is though beneficial yet was not demanded by me, I was actually asking that can I have Arnica thrice a day and first dose before break fast because you said it should be taken with empty stomach, so i find before break fast being the best time??? as last dose as already advised by you before bed time..

Should i take first dose before break fast or before lunch.. Thanks!!!
kbilalsa last decade
The first dose is best taken on an empty stomach before breakfast.

The second dose before lunch.

The third dose taken just before bed at least half hour after dinner.
Joe De Livera last decade
Pls confirm the Arnica that you talk about is Arnica Montana from Wilmar Schewabe..
kbilalsa last decade
Yes it is.
Joe De Livera last decade
When i started your remedy I was using drug treatment since last 4 days and was not having at least inflamation, though burp qualty was yet to improve, now it is my second day of your remedy, though i shall keep you posted about the updates.. But please note that I have been on ULTIMATE PREVENTION, the food I have is extremely preventive because slight deviation in food can revert my symptoms if a drug is not taken...

Today is the second day of your rememdy and in breakfast I had to have a few tiny biscuts and you know just 3 pills of Nat Phos seemed ineffcient hence i took 3 more after an hour which made me feel better...

My stomach lining has been too much delicate that a food having minute amount of oil in it can affect.. So the food i am on, is cooked with Virgin Oilve Oil without any spice n negligible salt.. I mean it can be a tastless food for a normal man... So I intend to keep having a food like this with youre remedy and shall report after some days...
kbilalsa last decade
Glad to note how you have taken action already to ensure that your stomach is babied as much as possible. I can see how much you suffered so very unnecessarily for the last 3 years after you first presented GERD which has exacerbated to the level it is today. If you had posted your problem here on this forum and I had taken your case it is very likely that this extended therapy that i have prescribed could have been avoided. Let us hope that my therapy can help you to go back to the condition you were 3 years ago before you presented GERD and later Antral Gastritis.

Please add Aloe Soc 6c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily to your list of remedies. Leave about half hour between remedies. Aloe will help to soothe the lining of your stomach and help it with the Arnica to rebuild the tissue that has been eroded by the gastric juice.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Mr. Joe, No today's biscuts forced me to have drug again, only Nat Phos wasnt working, anyhow I intend to continue wit Nat Phos after one dose of drug as taking this one dose was becoming my compulsion..

What do you mean by 'Leave about half hour between remedies'??? I think you mean i should have gap of half hour between the remedies.. ??

Do you want me to add Aloe Soc 6c in the same bottle i have added Arnica 30c???
[message edited by kbilalsa on Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:13:40 BST]
kbilalsa last decade
You cannot mix 2 remedies as you must remember that we are using a dosage which is nebulous at 6c which is 1 Billionth of the original Mother Tincture which is extracted from the Aloe which resembles a Cactus with thick leaves which resemble spikes. Check Google for pictures.

The gap between remedies must not be less that 30 minutes.
Joe De Livera last decade

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