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Equivalence of Wet Dose to Traditional Potency
I am an avid and a dedicated follower of Homeopathy. For personal use, I only use homeopathic medicines. I find the posts and discussions on your forum very informative. The professional doctors are very knowledgeable and the discussions are frank and open. I am specially impressed with the contributions of Joe De Livera. He has repeatedly advised using Arnica 6c (or 30c) in the Wet Dose. How does this translate to the traditional potency of the medicine? We can get Arnica 30, Arnica 200 or may be Arnica Mother Tincture from the local stores. So, which one is equivalent to the Wet Dose prescribed by Joe? On his web site, Joe has described the method of preparing a Wet Dose, but he does not mention the potency of the liquid medicine in alcohol. I would also like to know, how do I write to Joe directly.drakezyber on 2011-07-11
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The wet dose is just another name for the split dose, pioneered by Samuel Hahnemann the inventor of homoeopathy and outlined in the Organon of Medicine. This method of dosing was brought into prominence by Dr. Luc Du Schepper from whom Joe learned of the Split Dose. You can actually go to Dr. Du Schepper's site to learn more about this method of dosing.
http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.html
Dr. Du Schepper actually refers to it as the 'watery' dose. It is the traditional method of dosing, but was not used for many years by those practitioners who had learned homoeopathy from the older editions of the Organon. Any practitioner who had studied the 5th edition was aware of it.
The potency has nothing to do with this dosing method. Potency is a separate concept. Any potency can, and should, be made into a split dose. A split dose is simply where a remedy (of any potency) is diluted into more water and only part of that water given to the patient. It's primary purpose is to reduce aggravation.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.html
Dr. Du Schepper actually refers to it as the 'watery' dose. It is the traditional method of dosing, but was not used for many years by those practitioners who had learned homoeopathy from the older editions of the Organon. Any practitioner who had studied the 5th edition was aware of it.
The potency has nothing to do with this dosing method. Potency is a separate concept. Any potency can, and should, be made into a split dose. A split dose is simply where a remedy (of any potency) is diluted into more water and only part of that water given to the patient. It's primary purpose is to reduce aggravation.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear David Kempson,
Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply and the link to Dr Luc's site. Lecture Two is indeed very informative; it has given me a better understanding of dosage, potencies and the importance of watery doses. On the web site I found there are other equally useful Articles. But I couldn't find the method actaully preparing a watery dose. How much water is to be taken? How many drops of the medicine is to be added? How many succussions to begin with?
Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply and the link to Dr Luc's site. Lecture Two is indeed very informative; it has given me a better understanding of dosage, potencies and the importance of watery doses. On the web site I found there are other equally useful Articles. But I couldn't find the method actaully preparing a watery dose. How much water is to be taken? How many drops of the medicine is to be added? How many succussions to begin with?
drakezyber last decade
The amount of water, number of drops, and number of succussions are individualised for each patient, depending on the likelihood of aggravation (due to sensitivity, suppression, or degree of pathology).
I typically start with 2 succussions, 1 drop, and 1/2 cup (125mls) of water. Any of those measurements would be adjusted depending on the reaction of the patient.
Increasing the number of succussions increases the potency slightly, and can increase aggravation or overcome the disease's resistance. Increasing the number of drops increases the size of the dose and can help overcome a patient's lack of sensitivity to potentized medicines. Increasing the amount of water very markedly reduces the length and intensity of aggravations.
I typically start with 2 succussions, 1 drop, and 1/2 cup (125mls) of water. Any of those measurements would be adjusted depending on the reaction of the patient.
Increasing the number of succussions increases the potency slightly, and can increase aggravation or overcome the disease's resistance. Increasing the number of drops increases the size of the dose and can help overcome a patient's lack of sensitivity to potentized medicines. Increasing the amount of water very markedly reduces the length and intensity of aggravations.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear David Kempson,
Thank you for clarifying the issue of potency versus the wet dose.
Some of the explanation was difficult to fully comprehend, but I managed to decipher on second and third reading!
Please advise how long do we have to wait for the reaction of the patient? And how many doses do we administer for the reaction to appear? Do we wait for one day or a few days? And, do we stop once the body starts responding, thereby implying that the medicine has had a curative effect or do we continue?
Thank you for clarifying the issue of potency versus the wet dose.
Some of the explanation was difficult to fully comprehend, but I managed to decipher on second and third reading!
Please advise how long do we have to wait for the reaction of the patient? And how many doses do we administer for the reaction to appear? Do we wait for one day or a few days? And, do we stop once the body starts responding, thereby implying that the medicine has had a curative effect or do we continue?
drakezyber last decade
Again many of those things are determined by the patient's description of their symptoms and the history of their problem. For a long term chronic condition, one might wait a week or two for a reaction. During a genuine acute illness one might only wait 6 hours. The reaction might appear on the first dose or not until the third (typically I would not repeat a remedy a fourth time if there has been no reaction).
This issue of redosing, changing potency, even changing remedy, can be complex and often changes according to the situation of the patient. Even a specific patient may have different reactions at different times of their life. I could not really give you a rule to follow, there are many variables, and several ways of dealing with them. We spend years learning this, practicing it - I could answer questions about specific cases (perhaps).
As a general guideline, I would say you stop giving a remedy the moment a patient reacts in a marked way, for good or for ill. Other than that, it all depends on what exactly is happening.
This issue of redosing, changing potency, even changing remedy, can be complex and often changes according to the situation of the patient. Even a specific patient may have different reactions at different times of their life. I could not really give you a rule to follow, there are many variables, and several ways of dealing with them. We spend years learning this, practicing it - I could answer questions about specific cases (perhaps).
As a general guideline, I would say you stop giving a remedy the moment a patient reacts in a marked way, for good or for ill. Other than that, it all depends on what exactly is happening.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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