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hypersensativity due to overdose of thuja

i had taken thuja in 200 dose for around 1 and 1/2 years to control prostate enlargement. it was the only drug helping. Since then i have been very much sensitive to all homeopathic drugs. Kindly help me to reverse this condition.
  tecky on 2011-08-25
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Same potency for one and a half years? How would you take the doses?

What other problems have happened since then? Please explain all your current problems in as much detail as possible.
Ayeshhaa last decade
It is a strange thing that a person has become sensitive to other remedies after taking one remedy for a long time.
Passkey has opined that in continuous dosing latter doses antidote earlier doses.
Rishimba is of the opinion that each additional dose raises the the effective potency of the remedy marginally.
Continuous doses leads to proving of remedy in the opinion of some experts.
But here the patient has become sensitive to other remedies!!
[message edited by kadwa on Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:46:41 BST]
kadwa last decade
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nawazkhan last decade
but if he did succussing 4-5 times before each dose then that should not cause prblems or antidoting or provings

am i right?
girl2010 last decade
I have experienced that kinda sensitivity in patients as in my region i have huge number of patients taking potencies on daily basis. This kinda a prescription without under the observation of professional homeopath is extremely dangerous. Unfortunately, thuja did a lot with your vital force, as its a deep acting remedy that's why you are sensitive with remedies, in my opinion your vital force has become weaker and thuja only was suppressing your symptoms or simply just palliating and if no other new symptoms are felt other than sensitivity then you are lucky person :)
you haven't to much worry about sensitivity of remedies as dosage can be adjusted which meet your sensitivity. And lastly don't ever try that kinda dosage by yourself. Always do under the supervision of someone professional. You need not to antidote you sensitivity as it could cause more har and not needed, you need your case to be taken by a wise homeopath, who suggested a remedy by taking deep and total details of you in that way you vital force can be make powerful enough to manage remedies. Keep in mind homeopathy can cure prostate problems completely, and in such a huge time like 1year n half you were cured if treated by someone. I haven't prescribed any of my patient same remedy for such long period in my whole practice life. If you are getting benefit then your problem should be cured not just palliation.

Girl2010 you aren't right no remedy should be taken for such a long period of time, specially C scale even if one did successions.repeating same potency for such long time isnt wise.

THIS IS CLEAR CUT CASE OF suppressation.
[message edited by Paki1 on Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:51:26 BST]
Paki1 last decade
double posted
[message edited by Paki1 on Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:46:07 BST]
Paki1 last decade

is C scale the same as

girl2010 last decade
Paki1 last decade
so is it bad then if a 6c dose or a remedy is given for about 8 months succussed every 2nd day?

cuz thats how i was given a remedy
girl2010 last decade
Dear Kadwa

'It is a strange thing that a person has become sensitive to other remedies after taking one remedy for a long time. '

That is because the remedy in question is a strong anti miasmatic remedy. Among other things, anti miasmatic remedy like sulphur or thuja increase the sensitivity in the system such that other remedies following them will have a greater impact. That's why they are used when well indicated remedies do not act well.
maheeru last decade
To girl2010,

Its seems to me more like palliation than CURE. I don't know what kinda prescription you was having. Low potencies like 6c is usually used in such cases where vitality is low and its 100% sure that patient survival chances are rare even though i do treat that kinda patient with hope to cure.

To Maheeru,

100% agree with you, its without doubt true that anti miasmatic remedies increase sensitivity in system. I have some cases where homeopaths here prescribe sulphur 200 daily for three months(maheeru you may know of nux and sulphur for hemorrhoids here in our region, and prescribed to used daily for atleast a month or three months) and that person become so much sensitive but only to sulphur that even slightest odor of remedy made him rashes, severe rashes. I treated him classically and he is all better now.

To tecky

you should stay away from thuja from now on for some years. And let yourself be treated with someone.
[message edited by Paki1 on Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:47:15 BST]
Paki1 last decade

[message deleted by girl2010 on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:57:09 GMT]
girl2010 last decade
Dear Maheeru,

So the remedy has removed all the miasmatic blocks and it has rendered the system responsive to allow the right remedy to act with full force?

Here another problem is that the patient is targeting the remedy at his prostate problem.

Thanks !!
kadwa last decade
LM1 ? taken for that long period why ?
Why not moved upward, if getting desirable results i.e mental state improving and physical state also and everything is according to direction of cure. One shouldn't take LM1 for 8-9 months if there is relief/paused/not CURED then should move to LM2,3,4,5,6,7,8 etc. When you get proper relief your health will be properly restored,feel more energetic, less worrying about disease etc , it will be complete restoration of health on both planes i.e physical and mental.
Paki1 last decade

[message deleted by girl2010 on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:56:06 GMT]
girl2010 last decade
Dear Kadwa

'So the remedy has removed all the miasmatic blocks and it has rendered the system responsive to allow the right remedy to act with full force? '

Unlocking of 'All the miasmatic blocks' is not to be expected here. Thuja is strongly associated with the miasm--- Sycosis. Thuja can heal or implant strong sycotic layer depending upon the means of usage. Whether the use of Thuja is genuine or not can only be ascertained by taking a proper case.

Yes most of the this-for-that protocols have Thuja, Medorrh. for prostate enlargement. But one will never know how safe are these protocols when used in a reckless way.
maheeru last decade
Dear Maheeru,

If Thuja implants a strong sycotic layer, whether it can be removed by antidoting or by any other means?
kadwa last decade
Dear Kadwa

Except in a very small number of people--- provings, accessory symptoms and suppressions can be usually treated with anti dotes or remedies that suit the symptom totality.

In general, reckless usage of deep acting remedies is to be avoided.

C. Hering who proved Lachesis and 71 other remedies, lost the use of his left arm after his repetitive experiments with Lachesis.
maheeru last decade
Dear Maheeru,

Hering experimented with with the crude substance. He inhaled fumes to prove lachesis. i don't think that it can be as dangerous with potency.
People come for warts. Warts just don't respond to a single dose. Atleast in 2 cases i have seen the remedy cleaning warts from face after 15 days daily dosing. But taking a remedy for one year is too much. Still there is possibility that the real reason may not be the daily dosing, it may be something else.
kadwa last decade
Dear Kadwa

Lachesis proving was done with lower triturations. But later C. Hering experimented with higher attenuations(i.e higher potencies) and got his left or right side paralysed. Some classical sources say it's left side and some say it's right side. And it was clearly attributed to the higher potencies of Lachesis. Any thing in excess is not good!!

Numerous examples of provings, accessory symptoms, suppression are there on this forum itself.

What is required of to heal a person in a gentle manner can be done even if it involves more doses. But the dosing, frequency of dosing should be reasonable and must not put the patient in more trouble.
maheeru last decade
Dear Maheeru,

You are always right. Your presence adds to forum's glory.

Best Regards.
kadwa last decade

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