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extremely sensitive to antidotes...
hi, so i have a peculiar question, i am on nux vomica LM4 with my homeopath (we're pretty positive it's the right remedy and potency, used a machine that gauges the effect of a remedy on your energy spectrum) - the only problem is i'm extremely, extremely sensitive.first of all, i get affected just by touching a container or bottle with a remedy inside of it, or catching a whiff of a remedy. but more importantly, i am very easily anti-doted, whether it be with floss, bathing, brushing my teeth (even with mint-free paste), or sometimes just using hand soap.
i can't do the nux more than once a day either or else it aggravates me...are there any suggestions on how to avoid the anti-doting? maybe the most neutral soaps/toothpastes...i don't know if i can go without flossing, but maybe that's the only way for now.
thanks in advance!
dan
ddollar on 2011-08-31
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Homoeopathic remedies are not antidoted that way. If you are experiencing constant 'relapsing' it is because the remedy is not correct.
It is not unusual to see the word 'antidoting' used by practitioners who have not been able to find the right remedy for you. Antidoting does not mean 'fragile' - our medicines, when selected properly, are quite resistant and make permanent changes that are difficult to undo.
Whatever your feelings about this remedy, it may need to be abandoned to find a better one. The Simillimum is very difficult to reverse once it has been taken, and will reduce your unhealthy sensitivities. This sensitivity is part of your state, and if it is not reducing then the remedy is not curing you.
I have treated a number of ultrasensitives in the past, all who become sick from many minor things around them. This stopped within days of getting the correct remedy, but always continued while they were on a partial similar (not precise enough remedy).
Machines cannot tell what remedy you need. That is not homoeopathy at all. I would suggest finding a homoeopath who chooses the remedy on the basis of your symptoms, which is the only sure way to get the Simillimum. There is no basis in our philosophy for the use of those machines.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:45:02 BST]
It is not unusual to see the word 'antidoting' used by practitioners who have not been able to find the right remedy for you. Antidoting does not mean 'fragile' - our medicines, when selected properly, are quite resistant and make permanent changes that are difficult to undo.
Whatever your feelings about this remedy, it may need to be abandoned to find a better one. The Simillimum is very difficult to reverse once it has been taken, and will reduce your unhealthy sensitivities. This sensitivity is part of your state, and if it is not reducing then the remedy is not curing you.
I have treated a number of ultrasensitives in the past, all who become sick from many minor things around them. This stopped within days of getting the correct remedy, but always continued while they were on a partial similar (not precise enough remedy).
Machines cannot tell what remedy you need. That is not homoeopathy at all. I would suggest finding a homoeopath who chooses the remedy on the basis of your symptoms, which is the only sure way to get the Simillimum. There is no basis in our philosophy for the use of those machines.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:45:02 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thanks david! unfortunately i think this is the 'best' remedy, i don't believe in the simillimum for me - i've tried literally dozens of remedies, and this one has had the greatest effect and matches my symptoms the most. the machine only confirmed this for me, i had been set on the nux for a while before that.
the last 2 homeopaths have come to the same conclusion, that i needed nux, it's just so tricky because if i take it too much, it aggravates, but i definitely need it on a continual basis...
the last 2 homeopaths have come to the same conclusion, that i needed nux, it's just so tricky because if i take it too much, it aggravates, but i definitely need it on a continual basis...
ddollar last decade
Then it isn't the correct one. I can only give you my clinical experience of patients and their reactions over the last 20 years. This is not how the simillimum works.
There are over 5000 medicines available in homoeopathy today. Finding the right one can be laborious but a skilled practitioner can do it. The results are what proves the remedy to be right.
You can read through the post I made a few weeks ago explaining how we determine if a remedy is correct.
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/289647/'
You will see in there that I mention several times one of the key indications for the correct remedy, is stability. You are missing that, at the very least.
It is hard for many ultrasensitives I know. They often suffer greatly in the search for the Simillimum. They have been amongst my hardest cases. However, when the right remedy is found, it does what any simillimum does - it cures. There is no constant relapsing - it is strong and stable as every curative remedy is.
There are over 5000 medicines available in homoeopathy today. Finding the right one can be laborious but a skilled practitioner can do it. The results are what proves the remedy to be right.
You can read through the post I made a few weeks ago explaining how we determine if a remedy is correct.
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/289647/'
You will see in there that I mention several times one of the key indications for the correct remedy, is stability. You are missing that, at the very least.
It is hard for many ultrasensitives I know. They often suffer greatly in the search for the Simillimum. They have been amongst my hardest cases. However, when the right remedy is found, it does what any simillimum does - it cures. There is no constant relapsing - it is strong and stable as every curative remedy is.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Just in case you have a problem with that link (because I seem to be having one) I have bumped that thread up to the top so you can find it more easily.
David
David
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thanks again! on that list, i've experienced all of those except for the stability one with the nux...it'd be nice if i could meet all the criteria, but 7 out of 8 isn't bad...i wish i could just take a dose and be done with it, but my homeopaths have told me that so many things anti-dote these days, and with me being so sensitive to that it may take a more subtle, gradual approach.
ddollar last decade
Well I can only tell you what I have seen - the simillimum doesn't do that.
Stability of the change is one of the most important things - without that you do not have cure.
Insist your homoeopath search for a better remedy. I treat many patients in my clinic - hardly any of them constantly relapse unless the remedy is not correct.
Needing to take the remedy every day is called Palliation. After a time that will become Suppression and it can make you incurable. This is directly out of our Organon of Medicine.
Anyway I have given my advice. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
Stability of the change is one of the most important things - without that you do not have cure.
Insist your homoeopath search for a better remedy. I treat many patients in my clinic - hardly any of them constantly relapse unless the remedy is not correct.
Needing to take the remedy every day is called Palliation. After a time that will become Suppression and it can make you incurable. This is directly out of our Organon of Medicine.
Anyway I have given my advice. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thanks david - i will definitely ask her about the palliation/suppression next time i see her, that sounds like something i definitely don't want.
ddollar last decade
my homeopath gives me a liquid solution that i succuss(?) each time 8-10 times and dilute in 2 oz. of water
ddollar last decade
Ok there is one of your problems.
Firstly, you only need to succuss the bottle once or twice for each dose. Each extra hit makes the dose stronger. I rarely ask patients to do more than 2 hits unless the remedy is clearly working less effectively (so they need a stronger dose). Even then I will usually only raise the number of succussions by 2.
The other problem I can see is that you are not using a proper level of dilution for a hypersensitive.
You should be placing one drop into around 250mls of water, stirring thoroughly, then taking a teaspoon out of that and placing it in a second cup (250mls) of water. Stir again and take a teaspoon from that into the mouth.
If this is still too aggravating, put that second teapsoon into a third cup of water and do the same. You can continue doing this until you find a level of dilution which suits your sensitivity.
So that is 1 or 2 hits, 1 drop, full cup of water, 1 teaspoon out of that. Move to the second, third, fourth, or even fifth cups until you find a gentle enough dose.
Most of my hypersensitives needed to go to at least the third cup. One of them needed to go to the fifth cup. Her remedy was Colchicum and it cured her hypersensitivity (and her arthritis). She was actually my first patient with 'water hypersensitivity' (she reacted badly to the things in simple drinking water) which I assume was a kind of chemical sensitivity.
Up until I adjusted her dose in this way, she had been unable to take homoeopathic medicines without violent aggravations. Even on the Colchicum first time, her aggravation from one dose lasted 3 weeks. This was diluting in just 1 cup of water. Each cup we moved to, reduced her aggravtion dramtically - second cup down to 3 days. Third cup down to several hours. Fourth cup down to less than an hour. Fifth cup down to only a few minutes. She was, needless to say, very happy.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:25:17 BST]
Firstly, you only need to succuss the bottle once or twice for each dose. Each extra hit makes the dose stronger. I rarely ask patients to do more than 2 hits unless the remedy is clearly working less effectively (so they need a stronger dose). Even then I will usually only raise the number of succussions by 2.
The other problem I can see is that you are not using a proper level of dilution for a hypersensitive.
You should be placing one drop into around 250mls of water, stirring thoroughly, then taking a teaspoon out of that and placing it in a second cup (250mls) of water. Stir again and take a teaspoon from that into the mouth.
If this is still too aggravating, put that second teapsoon into a third cup of water and do the same. You can continue doing this until you find a level of dilution which suits your sensitivity.
So that is 1 or 2 hits, 1 drop, full cup of water, 1 teaspoon out of that. Move to the second, third, fourth, or even fifth cups until you find a gentle enough dose.
Most of my hypersensitives needed to go to at least the third cup. One of them needed to go to the fifth cup. Her remedy was Colchicum and it cured her hypersensitivity (and her arthritis). She was actually my first patient with 'water hypersensitivity' (she reacted badly to the things in simple drinking water) which I assume was a kind of chemical sensitivity.
Up until I adjusted her dose in this way, she had been unable to take homoeopathic medicines without violent aggravations. Even on the Colchicum first time, her aggravation from one dose lasted 3 weeks. This was diluting in just 1 cup of water. Each cup we moved to, reduced her aggravtion dramtically - second cup down to 3 days. Third cup down to several hours. Fourth cup down to less than an hour. Fifth cup down to only a few minutes. She was, needless to say, very happy.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:25:17 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
wow thanks, i just dosed and it's pretty drastic i can tell already after trying it that way...i'll have to wait a few hours to see how i really feel but i appreciate it very much!
ddollar last decade
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