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Nat phos - A failure to me
I have been suffering from severe heartburn form last six months. used omeprozole for two months, but the problem revived again when i stopped the medicine. turned to this forum and started nat phos 6x. i started with 3 tablets after meals 3 times a day but didnt relieve then i increased the dosage up to 6 tablets but didnt find any cure. Nat phos is just a failure to me, dont know about others. please help me out homeopaths. i dont want to take allopathic meds any more due to their side effects.shurjeel4u on 2011-09-18
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Dear Shurjeel4y,
The following additional information is required to help you. Therefore, please do the best you can in providing a detailed and accurate data.
1. ID:Shurjeel4u
2. Age
3. Sex
4. Single/Married
5. weight
6. Height .
7. country
8. climate
9. List of your complaints
10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint
11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt
13. Thirst
14. Tongue and Taste
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine)
16. What exactly is happening?
17. How do you feel?
18. How does this affect you?
19. How does it feel like?
20. What comes to your mind?
21. One situation that had a
big effect on you?
22. How did that feel like?
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?
24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?
25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?
26. Family Background
27. Educational Qualifications of the patient
28. Nature of work, what do you do for living?
29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food
30. Name of foods which increase your problem
31. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient and so on.. How are you different from other persons, public speaking or not , you can describe all of the details about your behavior, love and affections.
32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)
34. Location of the disease
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body)
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc.
Regards,
Nikkie.
The following additional information is required to help you. Therefore, please do the best you can in providing a detailed and accurate data.
1. ID:Shurjeel4u
2. Age
3. Sex
4. Single/Married
5. weight
6. Height .
7. country
8. climate
9. List of your complaints
10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint
11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt
13. Thirst
14. Tongue and Taste
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine)
16. What exactly is happening?
17. How do you feel?
18. How does this affect you?
19. How does it feel like?
20. What comes to your mind?
21. One situation that had a
big effect on you?
22. How did that feel like?
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?
24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?
25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?
26. Family Background
27. Educational Qualifications of the patient
28. Nature of work, what do you do for living?
29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food
30. Name of foods which increase your problem
31. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient and so on.. How are you different from other persons, public speaking or not , you can describe all of the details about your behavior, love and affections.
32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)
34. Location of the disease
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body)
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc.
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
ID:Shurjeel4u
2. Age 27
3. Sex male
4. Single/Married single
5. weight 89 kg
6. Height . 6 feet
7. country pakistan
8. climate moderate, summer influence
9. List of your complaints
Chronic Heart Burn
Hair Falling
Coryza/Sneezing 12 months (chronic)
10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint
From three/four years, all of them
11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic Non diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt moderate
13. Thirst Normal
14. Tongue and Taste sweet
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine) 122/80
16. What exactly is happening?
Severe heartburn 1 hour after taking meals. During heartburn some liquid comes out into the mouth.
17. How do you feel?
Helpless.
18. How does this affect you?
Badly affecting
19. How does it feel like?
Feel like there is fire inside my chest
20. What comes to your mind?
Like I should drink the whole ocean to suppress this heartburn
21. One situation that had a
big effect on you?
No such situation I believe
22. How did that feel like?
N/A
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?
N/A
24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?
??
25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?
- Omeprozole
- Some homeo treatment for coryza by a homeopath. But it didnt cure, the remedy given by him was undisclosed
- Nat Phos 6x tablets
29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food
Like Biryani (Rice), Meat . Eat veg but prefer meat
30. Name of foods which increase your problem
No such foods
32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
Heartburn Aggravates after taking meals.and decreases for a very short time after drinking a glass of water
33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)
34. Location of the disease
Chest area (heartburn)
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body)
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc.
Urine Light yellow
Stool dark brown
Sputum white/offwhite
[message edited by shurjeel4u on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:42:17 BST]
2. Age 27
3. Sex male
4. Single/Married single
5. weight 89 kg
6. Height . 6 feet
7. country pakistan
8. climate moderate, summer influence
9. List of your complaints
Chronic Heart Burn
Hair Falling
Coryza/Sneezing 12 months (chronic)
10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint
From three/four years, all of them
11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic Non diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt moderate
13. Thirst Normal
14. Tongue and Taste sweet
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine) 122/80
16. What exactly is happening?
Severe heartburn 1 hour after taking meals. During heartburn some liquid comes out into the mouth.
17. How do you feel?
Helpless.
18. How does this affect you?
Badly affecting
19. How does it feel like?
Feel like there is fire inside my chest
20. What comes to your mind?
Like I should drink the whole ocean to suppress this heartburn
21. One situation that had a
big effect on you?
No such situation I believe
22. How did that feel like?
N/A
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?
N/A
24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?
??
25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?
- Omeprozole
- Some homeo treatment for coryza by a homeopath. But it didnt cure, the remedy given by him was undisclosed
- Nat Phos 6x tablets
29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food
Like Biryani (Rice), Meat . Eat veg but prefer meat
30. Name of foods which increase your problem
No such foods
32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
Heartburn Aggravates after taking meals.and decreases for a very short time after drinking a glass of water
33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)
34. Location of the disease
Chest area (heartburn)
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body)
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc.
Urine Light yellow
Stool dark brown
Sputum white/offwhite
[message edited by shurjeel4u on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:42:17 BST]
shurjeel4u last decade
Homoeopathy does not work like orthodox medicine. We don't prescribe on the basis of the name of your condition, but on the total symptom complex of the person. This means looking at all areas - sleep, appetite, mental and emotional, sensitivities - as well as the specific problem itself, which needs to be fully fleshed out. This is why Nat-phos failed as it was not chosen individually for you.
The information you have given is not very detailed. If you are willing I can take on your case, but you would need to provide much more information. Are you willing to do that? If not, one of the other people on this site will probably attempt to work with what information you have given.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
The information you have given is not very detailed. If you are willing I can take on your case, but you would need to provide much more information. Are you willing to do that? If not, one of the other people on this site will probably attempt to work with what information you have given.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Shurjeel,
Thanks for the details. Please stop Nat. Phos 6x for time being. Avoid sour/spicy food for time being.
>> For your Heart burn problem:
1) Take two doses in a day of carbo.Veg 200 (morning and evening).
2)Repeat 1 for three days.
One dose means
The medicine is in liquid dilution form, 3-4 drops in some three sip mineral water. mix it with spoon and Sip up slowly.
Please follow homeopathy restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, and no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
Dietry Precautions:
> No intake of chilled water.
> No water 1 hr before or 2 hrs after meal.
> No intake of sour/spicy/oily food items.
> Drink 2 glasses of water early in the morning.
> Dialy intake of water should be around 3ltrs (it is very important).
Do update me every day with the progress.
Regards,
Nikkie.
Thanks for the details. Please stop Nat. Phos 6x for time being. Avoid sour/spicy food for time being.
>> For your Heart burn problem:
1) Take two doses in a day of carbo.Veg 200 (morning and evening).
2)Repeat 1 for three days.
One dose means
The medicine is in liquid dilution form, 3-4 drops in some three sip mineral water. mix it with spoon and Sip up slowly.
Please follow homeopathy restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, and no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
Dietry Precautions:
> No intake of chilled water.
> No water 1 hr before or 2 hrs after meal.
> No intake of sour/spicy/oily food items.
> Drink 2 glasses of water early in the morning.
> Dialy intake of water should be around 3ltrs (it is very important).
Do update me every day with the progress.
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
Thanks nikkie for your reply.
I would like to follow your instructions regarding the remedy and dietary restrictions. i shall get carbo veg 200.
Please let me know if the remedy in pills form is feasible and what would be the no. of pills/dose? as the pellets are easy to carry to my work place too. or the liquid is recommended? your reply is highly appreciated!
Thank you!
I would like to follow your instructions regarding the remedy and dietary restrictions. i shall get carbo veg 200.
Please let me know if the remedy in pills form is feasible and what would be the no. of pills/dose? as the pellets are easy to carry to my work place too. or the liquid is recommended? your reply is highly appreciated!
Thank you!
shurjeel4u last decade
Zahid)2 last decade
Dear Shurjeel4u,
I recommend medicine in liquid dilution. You can take evening dose before going to bed.
Regards,
Nikkie.
I recommend medicine in liquid dilution. You can take evening dose before going to bed.
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
Hi nikkie
Man i just forgot to mention that i have been taking a combination for the last five days for my nasal issues whose ingredients are: IODUM D3, ACONITUM D4, PULSATILLA D4, MERC CORROS D6 and KALIUM BICHRO D4. should i keep taking this or this would interefere with CARBOVEG 200?.
Man i just forgot to mention that i have been taking a combination for the last five days for my nasal issues whose ingredients are: IODUM D3, ACONITUM D4, PULSATILLA D4, MERC CORROS D6 and KALIUM BICHRO D4. should i keep taking this or this would interefere with CARBOVEG 200?.
shurjeel4u last decade
You should only ever take one remedy at a time, so stop all others and take only the one prescribed by the practitioner you choose to follow.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Shurjeel4u,
Please stop the combination for time being. Ellaborate on your nasal problem.
Further to add to my tips, please take five small meals instead taking 3 big meals. Do not take drinks which are acidic in nature (ie: bottled cold drinks or preserved stuff). Pickles , fast food, Hot spicy stuff, Tea, coffee etc. should be avoided. Carry few peaces of jaggery an alternate to sweet and havie it after every meal.
Hope you had started with the medicine.
Regards,
Nikkie.
Please stop the combination for time being. Ellaborate on your nasal problem.
Further to add to my tips, please take five small meals instead taking 3 big meals. Do not take drinks which are acidic in nature (ie: bottled cold drinks or preserved stuff). Pickles , fast food, Hot spicy stuff, Tea, coffee etc. should be avoided. Carry few peaces of jaggery an alternate to sweet and havie it after every meal.
Hope you had started with the medicine.
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
Hi there nikkie
Ok i stopped the combination. yes i have taken the first dose today in the morning will take the second dose after sometime from now.
The whole day spent good after taken the first dose. A slight burning has just been felt eight hours after the first dose. hope this also will go away after taking the subsequent doses. is tea banned at the breakfast too? Secondly nikkie, somebody told me that natphos in 3x is more helpful than 6x for heartburn. should i take it? is that salt allowed to be taken along with carbo veg. hopefully that wont be violating the classical homeopathic laws i.e. a salt alongwith your prescribed remedy.
Thanks for your advices.
Ok i stopped the combination. yes i have taken the first dose today in the morning will take the second dose after sometime from now.
The whole day spent good after taken the first dose. A slight burning has just been felt eight hours after the first dose. hope this also will go away after taking the subsequent doses. is tea banned at the breakfast too? Secondly nikkie, somebody told me that natphos in 3x is more helpful than 6x for heartburn. should i take it? is that salt allowed to be taken along with carbo veg. hopefully that wont be violating the classical homeopathic laws i.e. a salt alongwith your prescribed remedy.
Thanks for your advices.
shurjeel4u last decade
Dear Shurjeel4u,
For time being please dont start with Nat.Phos.
1) Tell me something about your mouth ( are there any blisters inside). Do you feel any pain/burn in your throat while swallowing food or drinking water?.
2) Did you took three glass water, first thing in the morning?
3) Take first dose of carbo. Veg 45 min after taking 3 glass of water in the morning.
After few updates, then we can think of tea !
Regards,
Nikkie.
For time being please dont start with Nat.Phos.
1) Tell me something about your mouth ( are there any blisters inside). Do you feel any pain/burn in your throat while swallowing food or drinking water?.
2) Did you took three glass water, first thing in the morning?
3) Take first dose of carbo. Veg 45 min after taking 3 glass of water in the morning.
After few updates, then we can think of tea !
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
hi nikkie
Please find my answers below:
1. Yes sometimes i get blisters in the mouth usually one blister. currently there are no blisters. i had a blister 2 months back. for the next part of your first question i dont have pain or burn while swallowing any stuff.
2. i took one glass one hour before breakfast, 2 glasses after two hours of the breakfast. and made it 17 or 18 glasses in the day followed.
3. should it be after breakfast?
For today:
there was no severe heart burn today. a very mild one in the evening two hours back at 5:00 pm.
Thanks for your help again
Please find my answers below:
1. Yes sometimes i get blisters in the mouth usually one blister. currently there are no blisters. i had a blister 2 months back. for the next part of your first question i dont have pain or burn while swallowing any stuff.
2. i took one glass one hour before breakfast, 2 glasses after two hours of the breakfast. and made it 17 or 18 glasses in the day followed.
3. should it be after breakfast?
For today:
there was no severe heart burn today. a very mild one in the evening two hours back at 5:00 pm.
Thanks for your help again
shurjeel4u last decade
Dear Shurjeel,
Carbo Veg should be before breakfast. Take water as per you comfort level. Yes, 5:00 pm was my target , since you have your office hence second dose was shifted (before going to bed). How long did the burning last?. I asked you to carry small amount of Jaggery (dark colured, it has less of soda). Next time if you have heart burn, just pop some jaggery, and let me know the reaction?
Regards,
Nikkie.
Carbo Veg should be before breakfast. Take water as per you comfort level. Yes, 5:00 pm was my target , since you have your office hence second dose was shifted (before going to bed). How long did the burning last?. I asked you to carry small amount of Jaggery (dark colured, it has less of soda). Next time if you have heart burn, just pop some jaggery, and let me know the reaction?
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
Dear Nikkie
I would like to bring in your notice that since my last post (before this)i have got 4 to 5 heartburn attacks. first 2 mild enough and last 3 attacks were a bit moderate. Everytime i get the burning it lasts upto 45-60 seconds
This might give you a more clearer picture:
DAY 1 of dosage: Very Mild heart burn in the evening after 4.00 p.m (only 1 attack)
DAY 2 (Today) of dosage: Mild attack at 5.00pm then after 7.00pm 5 attacks as mentioned above.
secondly i would like to tell you that i have somehow managed to take the second dose in the evening around 7 p.m. till now 2 morning doses and 2 evening doses have been completed. 2moro is the 3rd day.
I'll get the jaggery 2omoro, just forgot to take it.
Thanks Nikkie
[message edited by shurjeel4u on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:06:45 BST]
I would like to bring in your notice that since my last post (before this)i have got 4 to 5 heartburn attacks. first 2 mild enough and last 3 attacks were a bit moderate. Everytime i get the burning it lasts upto 45-60 seconds
This might give you a more clearer picture:
DAY 1 of dosage: Very Mild heart burn in the evening after 4.00 p.m (only 1 attack)
DAY 2 (Today) of dosage: Mild attack at 5.00pm then after 7.00pm 5 attacks as mentioned above.
secondly i would like to tell you that i have somehow managed to take the second dose in the evening around 7 p.m. till now 2 morning doses and 2 evening doses have been completed. 2moro is the 3rd day.
I'll get the jaggery 2omoro, just forgot to take it.
Thanks Nikkie
[message edited by shurjeel4u on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:06:45 BST]
shurjeel4u last decade
Hi nikkie
Hope you are well out there.
The 3rd day spent nicely without any significant heartburn attack. I have just taken the last dose of the last day.
Waiting for your suggestions.
Thanks
Hope you are well out there.
The 3rd day spent nicely without any significant heartburn attack. I have just taken the last dose of the last day.
Waiting for your suggestions.
Thanks
shurjeel4u last decade
Dear Shurjeel,
We are all Fine.
No more doses of Carbo. Veg. as of now. You are under observation for five days. Do take all the dietry precautions. Also keep a track of any abnormal symptoms(like pain,gas formation,blenching etc) in abdominal area if any during this period. If you sence any burning like symptoms you are going to take small piece of jaggery. Do keep me informed on daily basis.
Prayers for your Good Health.
Regards,
Nikkie.
We are all Fine.
No more doses of Carbo. Veg. as of now. You are under observation for five days. Do take all the dietry precautions. Also keep a track of any abnormal symptoms(like pain,gas formation,blenching etc) in abdominal area if any during this period. If you sence any burning like symptoms you are going to take small piece of jaggery. Do keep me informed on daily basis.
Prayers for your Good Health.
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
Hi Nikkie
I hope u r doing Great!
I was actually out of reach of the internet for some time. I appreciate your attitude and hope u would carry out your attitude of care to the mankind in the future too.
Alhamdulillah, my heartburn problem is no more. i am feeling great.
I need your further advices. should i carry on or what?
BEST REGARDS
I hope u r doing Great!
I was actually out of reach of the internet for some time. I appreciate your attitude and hope u would carry out your attitude of care to the mankind in the future too.
Alhamdulillah, my heartburn problem is no more. i am feeling great.
I need your further advices. should i carry on or what?
BEST REGARDS
shurjeel4u last decade
Dear Shurjeel,
I am doing good. It is good to see your health progress. Always stick to your dietry precautions, in this way your your digestion will become strong. Please take weekly 1 dose of carbo. Veg. 200 for three weeks, before going to bed.
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Regards,
Nikkie.
I am doing good. It is good to see your health progress. Always stick to your dietry precautions, in this way your your digestion will become strong. Please take weekly 1 dose of carbo. Veg. 200 for three weeks, before going to bed.
ABC-Feedback, wants to understand your experience. We welcome any comments, questions or concerns you may have regarding your services on ABC-Homeopathy forum.
We are committed to providing you the Best Patient Experience from your perspective. This includes delivering personalized, high quality, state-of-the-art care that is focused on your physical, emotional, and spiritual well being. To consistently provide the Best Patient Experience, we need your feedback. You help us provide care from the patient's perspective. We learn about aspects of your patient experience that provided great benefit to you as well as areas that may require improvement. Every feedback is individually read and used to improve patients treatment.
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Have a Healthy Lifestyle!
Regards,
Nikkie.
♡ Nikkie last decade
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