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Cosmetic Surgery
HI. I going in for liposuction of my abdominal area in 2 weeks. Im new to homeopathic meds and was looking for some guidance with post surgery recovery...Pain, swelling etc. I picked up some Anica montana 6x tablets. Is this what i should be using? if not, what should i use, and how would i use it? Thanks.lincoln on 2011-12-18
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Dangerous procedure.
It is unlikely that Arnica 6x will help you much. To some degree what will help you depends on the damage done.
Most people end up in serious situations from liposuction because of uncontrolled haemorrhage. Phosphorous would probably be more likely to help if this occurs.
The type of damage that occurs is one that doesn't really occur in nature - where they suck up the tissue quite violently. The damage to the soft tissue isn't the 'ailments from blows and contusions' that Arnica generally helps.
However, the law of similars is always in effect, so if the patient presented with severe bruising, an feeling the bed is too hard, a fear that someone will touch the injured spot, excessive soreness with an extraordinary sensitivity to anything even coming near the injured spot - then sure Arnica would be the remedy.
Hard shiny swelling with heat and stinging would suggest Apis.
Soft swelling where the imprint of an object remains for a long time would suggest Bovista.
We have quite a few remedies for injuries, or for post surgery, depending on what happens -
Hammamelis (loss of blood, bruised soreness, unbearable pain worse for moving)
Ledum (Puncture wounds caused by sharp instruments, coldness of the part but patient wants to keep it cold)
Calendula (Wound is raw, open, inflammed and painful as if it had been beaten, red and stinging)
Hypericum (Spot is rich in nerves, pain seems out of proportion to the injury, pain is neuralgic seeming)
Aconite (Inflammation, burning, restlessness, anxious especially about death, shock)
Ruta (Painful as if bruised, intense weakness, cannot lie on the part, sorch and aching and tearing)
Staphyisagria (Lacerated tissue, extremely sensitive wounds cannot tolerate anything, stinging smarting pains like a cut or wound that is open even though it is not)
Bellis perrenis (Injury to deeper tissue, intense soreness and intolerance of cold, aching and throbbing).
That is a few examples of the uses of the remedies. China can be used for weakness after loss of blood, Carbo-veg can be used if the wound swells up with gas.
Considering the type of injury, and the location of it, I would actually suggest taking a single dose of Bellis perrenis 200c after the surgery.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:32:59 GMT]
It is unlikely that Arnica 6x will help you much. To some degree what will help you depends on the damage done.
Most people end up in serious situations from liposuction because of uncontrolled haemorrhage. Phosphorous would probably be more likely to help if this occurs.
The type of damage that occurs is one that doesn't really occur in nature - where they suck up the tissue quite violently. The damage to the soft tissue isn't the 'ailments from blows and contusions' that Arnica generally helps.
However, the law of similars is always in effect, so if the patient presented with severe bruising, an feeling the bed is too hard, a fear that someone will touch the injured spot, excessive soreness with an extraordinary sensitivity to anything even coming near the injured spot - then sure Arnica would be the remedy.
Hard shiny swelling with heat and stinging would suggest Apis.
Soft swelling where the imprint of an object remains for a long time would suggest Bovista.
We have quite a few remedies for injuries, or for post surgery, depending on what happens -
Hammamelis (loss of blood, bruised soreness, unbearable pain worse for moving)
Ledum (Puncture wounds caused by sharp instruments, coldness of the part but patient wants to keep it cold)
Calendula (Wound is raw, open, inflammed and painful as if it had been beaten, red and stinging)
Hypericum (Spot is rich in nerves, pain seems out of proportion to the injury, pain is neuralgic seeming)
Aconite (Inflammation, burning, restlessness, anxious especially about death, shock)
Ruta (Painful as if bruised, intense weakness, cannot lie on the part, sorch and aching and tearing)
Staphyisagria (Lacerated tissue, extremely sensitive wounds cannot tolerate anything, stinging smarting pains like a cut or wound that is open even though it is not)
Bellis perrenis (Injury to deeper tissue, intense soreness and intolerance of cold, aching and throbbing).
That is a few examples of the uses of the remedies. China can be used for weakness after loss of blood, Carbo-veg can be used if the wound swells up with gas.
Considering the type of injury, and the location of it, I would actually suggest taking a single dose of Bellis perrenis 200c after the surgery.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:32:59 GMT]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thank you for a fast reply. this is a whole new world with so much to learn.
i will proceed with your advice on the bellis perrenis. this appears to be a one time dose, correct?
as for the arnica montana 6x, how would i dose it? i saw something that says 3 tabs 4-6 times per day, and then i saw something else that said to mix it with water and sip it every two hours. could you please assist?
i may also consider ruta or bovista or ledum
is it safe to mix any of these with prescribed meds from he doc?
is it safe to mix admister multiple homeopathic meds?
will branch chain amino acids assist in the healing process at all?
thanks for your time
i will proceed with your advice on the bellis perrenis. this appears to be a one time dose, correct?
as for the arnica montana 6x, how would i dose it? i saw something that says 3 tabs 4-6 times per day, and then i saw something else that said to mix it with water and sip it every two hours. could you please assist?
i may also consider ruta or bovista or ledum
is it safe to mix any of these with prescribed meds from he doc?
is it safe to mix admister multiple homeopathic meds?
will branch chain amino acids assist in the healing process at all?
thanks for your time
lincoln last decade
One dose to begin with and see what happens. For acute situations you can take a dose each day for several days, but you want to be alert for the homoeopathic aggravation (temporary worsening of symptoms) which would preclude repeating the remedy (at least for awhile).
You must not mix the remedies together. Take either Arnica or Bellis perrenis, not both. Interactions can make such prescriptions risky.
I am not a nutrionist so I cannot really advise you on the use of supplements like amino acids.
INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING
Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules or 2-4 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.
Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).
For this purpose only, I would say you should place 1 drop onto the tongue. This is one dose. As long as you don't feel any worsening of your symptoms, I would suggest repeating a dose each day for no more than 3 days.
You must not mix the remedies together. Take either Arnica or Bellis perrenis, not both. Interactions can make such prescriptions risky.
I am not a nutrionist so I cannot really advise you on the use of supplements like amino acids.
INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING
Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules or 2-4 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.
Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).
For this purpose only, I would say you should place 1 drop onto the tongue. This is one dose. As long as you don't feel any worsening of your symptoms, I would suggest repeating a dose each day for no more than 3 days.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
the split dosing direction you gave me were for the anica, correct? when would i start taking the doses...before surgery, after surgery?
you refer to mixing it with one part alcohol, what kind of alcohol do you mean?
im a bit unclear about taking the anica along with prescriptions meds...is it ok for them to be taken together?
is it ok to take it with bromelain or different combinations of vitamins such as A and C?
you refer to mixing it with one part alcohol, what kind of alcohol do you mean?
im a bit unclear about taking the anica along with prescriptions meds...is it ok for them to be taken together?
is it ok to take it with bromelain or different combinations of vitamins such as A and C?
lincoln last decade
No those instructions were for Bellis perrenis 200c. I don't believe Arnica 6x will be suitable for the situation. 6x is far too low a potency to be useful, it is much too weak.
There is no reason to take a remedy before there are symptoms, and in fact that can be dangerous since the Law of Similars states what a substance can cause it can cure. So if you take it when you don't have symptoms, it will try to create them.
Any spiritous alcohol is fine - I use vodka, brandy or whisky. You could even use medicinal alcohol as long as it is Ethanol.
You are taking the Bellis perrenis for an acute situations, so the interaction between your normal medications and the homoeopathy is unlikely to be an issue.
Supplements are not usually problematic for homoeopathy, although extracts from plants can be medicines themselves and run their own set of risks.
There is no reason to take a remedy before there are symptoms, and in fact that can be dangerous since the Law of Similars states what a substance can cause it can cure. So if you take it when you don't have symptoms, it will try to create them.
Any spiritous alcohol is fine - I use vodka, brandy or whisky. You could even use medicinal alcohol as long as it is Ethanol.
You are taking the Bellis perrenis for an acute situations, so the interaction between your normal medications and the homoeopathy is unlikely to be an issue.
Supplements are not usually problematic for homoeopathy, although extracts from plants can be medicines themselves and run their own set of risks.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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