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Daughter w/ depressed brother/sad history

My daughter is 16 years old. We left her father when she was 7 years old, he was abusive to her bother and emotionally abusive to all the family. She grew up very fast as her best friend was diagnosed with leukemia the same year. Her brother has had a lot of problems with depression and was suicidal off and on all of last year.

She developed twitching fingers that became more serious last year. At first it wasn't that noticeable. Her fingers flex uncontrollably. She said they hurt and tingle. Her toes also feel this way, but not as much.

She has been getting a lot of colds for the last two years. She sneezes a ton and she develops a red rash under her nose. She takes many days to get better.

She was getting dizzy when she stands up from sitting or laying down, she started taking iron supplements and adrenal supplements and that has helped.

Her feet swell and hurt when she walks to go shopping

She said her legs go numb or her arms when she is in school, after carrying a backpack or sitting for long

She plays piano and is very good at academics, she is a bit of a perfectionist

She hasn't had many periods, they started at 14 and are irregular.

She used to break out in hives when she was younger

She talks very fast when excited, she also talks to herself in her mind as if her mind is full of conversations

She is often quiet and serious, she reads a lot

She is angry and scared about her brother's behavior/illness and feels very ignored because he took so much of mom's time. Our lives have been very disrupted.

She feels ignored by father and very sad, she does see him, but cannot have a relationship with him.

She has a really hard time getting to sleep at night, all her life.
 
  freena on 2011-12-28
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Please give her a single dose of Ignatia and see how she responds in next three days.
 
kadwa last decade
I gave her 30c ignatia before, only a few times and didn't notice any change. We went to a homeopathic doctor that prescribed asarum europeam last year and it helped only temporarily. I have ignatia 200c pills, how should I give it?
 
freena last decade
Since Ingatia has not helped her I would suggest that she takes Arnica 30c in the Wet dose twice daily for a long period into the future.

She should sleep very deeply after the very first dose taken just before bed and it is my hope that it will help her symptoms.

Please report her response in a few days and I shall treat her affinity to catching colds and her Catarrh after you have reported her response to my therapy aka 'Joepathy'

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the liquid remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
I decided to give her the ignatia dose 200C dissolved in water. I didn't know much about homeopathy when I tried the first doses several months ago. I will let you both know how she is by Saturday. I will read more about arnica, if she doesn't improve.
 
freena last decade
This isn't really a fully given case. I am happy to take it on if you are willing to supply more information (assuming the Ignatia 200 doesn't help).

David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dr. David I would like you to take a detailed case if the Ignatia is not enough. I took her to drive yesterday, she is learning to drive, and her fingers move a lot while driving usually. She was not moving them much only the pinky fingers moved, not the index and other fingers. She seemed a bit more relaxed. We are on vacation right now so the real test for that will be when she is back in school. She said she slept well. I won't see her today, but can report tomorrow if there is any other change that is noticeable.
 
freena last decade
I would like to have you take a full case for my daughter. She has not improved after the ignatia dose. Her fingers are moving as much as before and there are no other noticeable changes
 
freena last decade
GUIDELINES FOR GIVING HOMOEOPATHIC CASE INFORMATION

It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.

1. What exactly happens?
2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
4. What creates some relief for the problem?
5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?

Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE.

You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide. Do not put all your complaints into each of the 7 questions. Discuss one problem at a time. If you have, for example, a headache with nausea, do each component separately too (what makes the head pain worse or better, what makes the nausea worse or better).

As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.

Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.

Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.

Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.

Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.

If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
3. What your sleep is like
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
6. What your general level of energy is like
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
8. Describe your menstrual cycle

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build
b) Skin colour and texture
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.

After answering this I will probably have more questions.


It is very important that she give her own thoughts and feelings here, rather than your interpretation or assumptions about them.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I will have her fill it out. Thank you
 
freena last decade
GUIDELINES FOR GIVING HOMOEOPATHIC CASE INFORMATION

It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.

1. What exactly happens?
My fingers twitch and tap sometimes in patterns or in random movements very often throughout the day. All fingers do it but especially my pinkies. If I consciously think about it I can usually stop it, but it requires concentration and even then sometimes I feel that I have to keep moving them. If I break concentration I find I will be doing it without noticing. I believe I do it more than I realize because my peers mention it a lot. Sometimes I do similar tapping and jiggling with my legs, feet, and toes. The movement can be random but also patterns such as star shapes or groups of three. Occasionally I will sway my head in these patterns or my whole body. I just move a lot naturally.

My appendages also tingle/hurt sometimes. Mainly my arms or legs at different times.

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
My fingers feel very sore or tight often from twitching all day long. They may feel as if they are tingly or buzzing. When the fingers are occupied is when it is the worst because I feelings grow more extreme to the point where I have to do something with my fingers. When the fingers are touching something like a table-top I cannot extend any of them into the air without them shaking. Often my wrists and joints hurt.

It is a really had sensation to describe. It feels like my arms or legs are vibrating. It actually can hurt a bit, in a dull aching way. It causes me to feel panicked, like I am going to collapse.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
The more I think about it the more I do it. Having them agitated puts me into an frenzied state of mind and I will try to stop it with little success. Also doing things that don’t take my full concentration like watching tv will cause me to do it more

It usually happens to my legs when I am sitting or my arms when I have on a backpack. This makes me think it is related to circulation. If I cross my legs or add weight it gets worse

4. What creates some relief for the problem?
Some days when I am very calm or happy I don’t notice it as much. Or doing activities that don’t require the use of my hands. I also rarely notice it right after I wake up from sleeping.

Moving around will sometimes stop it. Otherwise I just wait for it to pass

5. What triggers the problem into occurring?
I don’t know if anything really triggers it, some days it is not so bad and other days it seems to go on all day. I don’t know why it is so inconsistent and can’t ell what makes it worse other than perhaps stress.

As I mentioned it is usually when I am sitting or laying down for a long time but not always.

6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
As far as I have noticed it occurs more and more the longer I have been awake.
Generally not much in the morning but worse in the afternoon and even worse in the evening.

It seems to occur at any time, day or night. But it doesn’t happen that often, just every once in a while.

7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
I have noticed this for approx. 4-5 years but it got dramatically worse in the last two years. Almost six years ago we moved here and started a very unhappy time in our lives. My parents had been divorced for a few years but my father was abusive and we had recently taken the case to court. We began to see him only in supervised visitation and at the same time moved to a smaller town and started a new school. The transition was hard for all of us, but especially for my brother who was entering junior high. This was when his major depression began. It has gotten progressively worse since then but is very off and on. Making friends in school was also a challenge but has gotten a lot better in the past 3 years. When we moved I took a long time to make friends and that is when the shyness really began. Now I feel I am pretty social and have close friends, but sometimes have trouble relating to people my age.

I started to notice it only in the last year, especially in the last couple of months.

Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE.

You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide. Do not put all your complaints into each of the 7 questions. Discuss one problem at a time. If you have, for example, a headache with nausea, do each component separately too (what makes the head pain worse or better, what makes the nausea worse or better).

As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.
The aforementioned situation with my father and brothers has been the greatest source of trauma in my life. They have definitely made me a different person than I would have been in another situation. Emotionally they have hardened me against difficult things and physically they have made me more tense and tightly wound.

Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.
I tend to hold in feelings a lot. Things that bother me will slowly build up more and more. Sometimes I lash out a little and get irritated or angry at my family. As far as direct conflict I usually avoid it except with those I am very comfortable. I don’t fight with friends or get involved in their fights very often.

Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.
I tend to over-think things. My mind is a very busy place that rarely seems to rest. I space out a lot when I am not completely occupied. When I think of past conversations or any sort of monologue I mouth them out and can’t seem to help it. I am a productive person and can sometimes act like a perfectionist but in a lot of ways I am also disorganized and relaxed. I do well in school but don’t stress about it.

Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.
I feel stuck in the past and that is frustrating. I also feel stuck in this illness because it has been bothering me in a lot of ways and will not go away. At this point it is interfering with how I live. It is just one of many things that makes me stand out from my peers and while and am proud to be different, it gets exhausting explaining continuously why I do the strange things that I do. I really don’t know why I am like this. I am frustrated with the family issues I have to deal with. And even though I am often happy now, I am sick of my day-to-day life. Routines make me feel trapped and bored. I also worry about the future frequently.

Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.
In a lot of ways I have a good family, but it is also a very dysfunctional one. I have a strong relationship with my mom but my relationship with my brother is sometimes strained. My relationship with my father is very tense and unhappy although I don’t see him often. I grew up in an enriching environment. We read a lot, went on family vacations, and watched more ‘intellectual’ films and little television. I was a complete bookworm and began reading adult books very early on. I attended a good charter school before we move. However my family home was not a safe place due to the abuse of my father. My extended family is fairly small and there are no other kids until recently. There are a lot of problems in the family members as well as issues with addiction and alcoholism. As far as school is concerned, I have always done very well academically. I am creative and love art, reading, and writing, but also do well in math and science. Socially, I have always been a little shy but I have really gotten over that in the last three years.

If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
I am not a very picky eater, I like all sorts of cuisine, especially foreign foods with lots of spices. I crave pickled foods, watermelon, grapefruit, chocolate, pasta, salads, avocados, tomato soup, Thai or Indian food ect. I hate liver, and ground beef, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and hotdog.
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
I crave cold drinks like milk, juice, smoothies, carbonated juices, and black or chai tea. I dislike kombucha, and mineral water. Water with things like airborne or calcium dissolved in it makes me feel nauseous.
3. What your sleep is like
I take a long time to fall asleep, but sleep very heavily once out. I am rarely tired until very late at night and never feel like I need much sleep. I get by very often on six hours of sleep a night but feel better if I get more. I toss around a lot in my sleep and have turn over many times before I fall asleep. Often my neck feels uncomfortable when I am lying in bed. Moving my legs back and forth helps me calm down and fall asleep. I almost always sleep on my side, usually the left.
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
I prefer cooler weather and am rarely cold. I almost never where a jacket inside because it is too hot. When the weather is very dry it bothers me especially because my skin and lips get dry. Humidity makes it hard to breath. I tire very easily when it’s hot especially when playing soccer.
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
My eyes are somewhat sensitive to light and stimulation. For example when I go into a crowded area with lots of people my eyes can’t seem to focus on one thing. They just dart from side to side.
6. What your general level of energy is like
I’m more tired in the morning and more awake late at night. My energy level is probably more on the low side.
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
I don’t really know how to compare it to others but I imagine it is fairly normal for someone my age.
8. Describe your menstrual cycle
I have been menstruating for several years now, but it has never been that regular in my cycles. I sometimes skip a month or two, and the time of the month it happens in varies.

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build
medium height and very slender
b) Skin colour and texture
tan skin, a bit dry, but not very oily with little acne.
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
underarms, back, feet
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
none smell out of the ordinary to my knowledge
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat
clear urine, brown or green/brown stools, clear sweat

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.
None that I have noticed. When I once got the flu mist in school it made me ill.
 
freena last decade
Ok I will look over this to see what other questions arise from it.

David
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I wanted to add another symptom she has. Her legs and feet get very red and irritated when she takes a shower.
 
freena last decade
Hello Dr. Brisbanehomoeopath,

Have you had any time to look at this? Just checking. Thanks
 
freena last decade
Hello Dr. Brisbanehomoeopath,

Have you had any time to look at this? Just checking. Thanks
 
freena last decade
This is a very peculiar case. I have looked at it a couple of times trying to understand the essence of what is happening here.

I am going to ask you to expand on some things you said. Firstly define the words, then give me more words to describe the same idea, then describe to me the experience of the situation, and lastly if possible give me an image to describe it (preferably not using yourself as the example).

Describe more on:

Vibrating

Feeling grow more extreme

Frenzied

Tightly wound

Hardened

Stand out from others

Trapped

Tension

Stimulation

Excitement

Star shapes

Tight
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Describe more on:

Vibrating: When my legs ‘vibrate’ they don’t actually physically move. But inside, they feel as if sand is running through them. The feeling hurts, especially around the joints in my legs and arms (shoulders, knees, elbows, ect.)

Feeling grow more extreme: Sometimes I cannot stop tapping my fingers and it causes this pressure in my head and hands. It gives me a headache and makes me very frustrated. Sometimes I am trying to do something like write or play the piano but I can’t because my fingers keep trying to twitch. I will start to clench my teeth and eventually will just stop trying and start shaking out my hands.

Frenzied: I just feel very full of thoughts and feelings sometimes. If I am not actively occupied talking to people I am constantly thinking about other things. Sometimes I have an inner-monologue running through my mind. Also when I ma in a crowded location my eyes don’t know where to focus. They dart back and forth and it makes me tired.

Tightly wound: Certain days I will just be very stressed or worried. I may be worried for a reason, but not always. Sometimes it seems pointless. On the other hand. I can also be quite relaxed. I lay around and put off doing things like homework, opting instead to do things that I enjoy or are entertaining.

Hardened: Some days I just feel so hardened and old, way older than I am in years. I hate being cynical and jaded but can’t help being so.

Stand out from others: As I have gotten more relaxed and outgoing in school, I have definitely begun to show my true personality. I can be very crazy and random sometimes. I also speak about very different topics than most people my age. Often I discuss ‘the big picture’, or weird things I notice, or hypothetical situation. I have a very quick sense of humor and can be very sarcastic. I don’t know exactly why I stand out. Honestly, I always think most of the things I say are fairly normal until others point out how unusual they are. I point out things that nobody ever notices and people will ask why I do it. I also have a lot of very weird habits and quirks. I stare off in space during class, stare at the floor when I walk between classes, have weird tics such as running my hand through my hair, blinking a lot, crinkling my eyes, ect. I will be in weird moods where I can’t maintain eye contact with people. I also have very different tastes from my peers. I eat different foods, listen to different music, watch different movies, read way more than most do and know more about politics and history.

Trapped: I just feel so stuck in this awful routine that I follow every day, each year. I tend to blur memories together so that I don’t remember anything except the general picture of what has happened. I am more of an optimist than a pessimist, and often find that I can be made happy by very simple things. Small conversations or actions will make my day better. I can be having a bad day but will do something fun or spontaneous like cooking something weird foreign food, or running outside in the rain. But or some reason when I look back on the sum of a long stretch of time, I just recall monotony.

Tension: When I am having a stressful day I can get very tense. This includes my jaw feeling tight and my symptoms worsening drastically. It all depends on the day though. I am a very contradictory person and therefore I can definitely say that I do not feel like this all the time, but when I do it can be overwhelming.

Stimulation: What I meant by stimulation is seeing a lot of different things or movement. For example, being in a crown or in a grocery store will cause my eyes to dart around, unable to focus.

Excitement: When I get excited I feel almost euphoric. My stomach clenches, I can’t keep from smiling, and if I am alone, I will literally jump up and down. Sometimes I will just be very happy for no reason

Star shapes: When I was a little kid I learned a method of drawing a star where you start at one corner and keep crossing through the middle to another corner until eventually you have drawn a star. This is the pattern I tap with my fingers, using each finger to represent a point.

Tight: I feel that my fingers get tight and rigid from so much repetitive movement. When they are twitching they feel very tense and not at all relaxed.
 
freena last decade
Ok let me look through this. I will get back to you soon.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Can you just describe some more on your eyes darting back and forth. Describe this sensation that comes with this. What is happening to you - not just the eyes but to you on the inside?

Talk about 'monotony'.

What is the opposite of 'monotony'?

What does it mean for anyone, or anything (not just you specifically) to be Weird, Different, Quirky?

I can see that there is a basic problem here with sensitivity. More specifically there is an issue with stimulation, with overstimulation. Nerves, thoughts, mind, emotions, everything. Don't tell me what stimulation comes from for you, just describe the concept of 'stimulation'. What is it exactly, what does it do, what does it feel like?

Also, what precisely happens when you are trying to fall asleep? You toss and turn, but what is keeping you awake?
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:24:42 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Can you just describe some more on your eyes darting back and forth. Describe this sensation that comes with this. What is happening to you - not just the eyes but to you on the inside?
I feel really disoriented, like when you wake up before you’re ready and get pulled into doing some activity while you’re practically still dreaming. Drowsy and dizzy. And I feel like there is something bouncing around the inside of my brain. Usually blocking my peripheral vision helps. Typically it’s when I’m in a store, surrounded by sharp corners and I feel afraid for my eyes.

Talk about 'monotony'.
I know I’m not alone in this because I’ve talked to others about it, but I really just can’t stand the entire routine of life. This strict formula you are supposed to follow, going through school, finding a decent profession, getting married and having kids, that whole cycle. I feel like so much of life is wasted, that people are content but not passionate. Now everyone just watched television or reads, living vicariously to escape their boring lives. I realize that I haven’t had a lot of life experience to draw this from, and sometimes I do feel remarkably optimistic about life. I get so excited about what I haven’t done but plan to do. But this seems like living outside of the moment.

What is the opposite of 'monotony'?
Spontaneity, variety, I don’t really know. I just wish that I didn’t have to live so ruled by routines. Or you can follow routines, but find excitement and gratification out of small moments of your day. I’m not saying everyday has to be exciting, but I dislike the notion that each day passes with a certain level of sameness and that finding one that stands out form the rest is rare.

What does it mean for anyone, or anything (not just you specifically) to be Weird, Different, Quirky?
I think that being different is a good thing, something to be proud of. However, I think you also have to accept that being different can mean that you will sometimes feel alone.

I can see that there is a basic problem here with sensitivity. More specifically there is an issue with stimulation, with overstimulation. Nerves, thoughts, mind, emotions, everything. Don't tell me what stimulation comes from for you, just describe the concept of 'stimulation'. What is it exactly, what does it do, what does it feel like?
Stimulation is a busy mind, buzzing with thoughts, feelings, or images. It is feeling wound up and full to the brim. Sometimes I can’t stop one image from replaying over and over in my head. Often a disturbing or painful image, like getting cut with a knife.

Also, what precisely happens when you are trying to fall asleep? You toss and turn, but what is keeping you awake?
Physically, I just don’t feel comfortable sometimes. My neck is very sensitive and I can never seem to get it comfortable. Mentally, I sometimes have trouble calming down. I think about the past and the future, but if my thoughts get to animated I can’t fall asleep. Like I can get excited for something and be happy, or be thinking about sad past events, but either way I can’t sleep. Usually listening to music helps, but not always.
 
freena last decade
Hello,

I am sorry my daughter took so long to answer the last questions. she has been gone for a lot of school acivities. Are you still able to look at her case? Thank you
 
freena last decade
Hi Dr. David,

I am bumping this up to see if you can continue. I heard you were sick and I hope you are better. If you are well enough I appreciate your help. THank you
 
freena last decade
Ok yes I am recovering well enough. I will try to catch up on all my work here. Give me a few days I will look at making a new prescription.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thanks, take your time, I hope it is a relaxing thing for you. Like reading a book?
 
freena last decade
Homoeopathy is always a challenge, and I enjoy it for that reason. It is still work though, and some cases here are quite difficult especially because without seeing someone face-to-face you miss so many important things.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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