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Berberis Pentarkan - for high uric acid - Does it work ?

I am suffering from high uric acid my body produces. I am 36 and taking daily 200mg of Allopurinal (Zyloric).

I wanted to try to switch over to homeopathy alternative.

as per my understanding

1) there is no cure for gout.
hence have to eat zyloric whole life to maintain uric acid levels.

2)the best allopathy medicine available for gout till date to my knowledge is allopurinol. no choice

I do came across Berberis Pentarkan which is meant for gout.

I would like to know from any one has using this for some time and does it help ?

I have started taking the same daily 2 tables twice a day, i did not notice any difference. I do swallow them with out touching.

Kindly share your experiences with regards to above medicine. thank you all.
  sanjaysharma on 2012-01-17
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Here is the composition:

Each tablet of 250mg contains

Berberis vulgaris q 1x - 25mg
Lycopodium clavatum 2x -25mg
Urtica urens q=1x -50mg
Taraxacum 1x -25mg
sanjaysharma last decade
Generally taking combination remedies is not advisable. But looking at this combination it is worth a try.
kadwa last decade
You first point is wrong. Homeopathy can cure gout permanently that's the beauty of homeopathy as it stops relapse completely but it should be treated by a professional homeopath in classic way. The thing( Berberis Pentarkan) wont help you much.
[message edited by Paki1 on Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:05:48 GMT]
Paki1 last decade
Many patients who presented Gout with high Uric Acid have responded to the following remedies taken in the Wet dose twice daily.

Argentum Metallicum 6c
Arnica 30c


Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets taken thrice daily.

I saw a case recently where the patient who had suffered from Gout had a visible bump above her left big toe at the joint with a pronounced Bunion and in about 6 months she showed it to me without the bump.
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks Dr.Joe De Livera and Dr.Paki for your valuable advice.

Kindly advice which medicine i should start taking considering the cure.

Do i need to continue allopurinol tablets along with taking homeopathy medicines. if so which remedy i need to start with.
sanjaysharma last decade
You have to decide.
Joe De Livera last decade
actually allopurinol won't bring much change in your life except suppressing uric acid and making you addict of it, as it block uric acid production anything that is been suppressed will make other things worse.

My advice is if you take homeopathy then stop allopurinol as homeopathy don't work as orthodox/allopathy drugs do but don't stop it immediately if you have been taking it more than 3 months as stoping it now if you alread took it for 3 months may give you / produce kidney stones, do it slowly and regularly and with some time stop it completely but also take 12-14 glasses of water daily.
[message edited by Paki1 on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:50:24 GMT]
Paki1 last decade
Thanks Dr.Joe and Dr.Paki for your reply.


You are right that i have been taking allopurinol for about 3 to 4 years. It works by blocking the enzyme, xanthine oxidase, that normally produces uric acid.

I do tried several times to reduce to one from two tables of 100g daily. but i start feeling tenderness or tingling sensation in the left foot. This i guessed is the symptom of build up of uric acid in the joint. so i start going back to two tables.

I do drink more water atleast more than normal people everyday.
[message edited by sanjaysharma on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:37:36 GMT]
sanjaysharma last decade

You are just wasting my time in having to answer the rational in my treating you with my 'Joepathy' and you are free to use the therapy you wish to use as I pointed out to you in my last email. I have tried to help you with the remedies I have used successfully in the past but you seem to be more interested in questioning the reason for a particular remedy that I have prescribed for you even before you started to take it as prescribed.

I must also categorically state that I DID NOT prescribe Arnica 30 for you.

You have quoted from the H&M Forum where I stated:

'Argentum Metallicum 6c in the Wet dose is the remedy for Arthritis and many have reported that within a week the pain that they suffered from has left them. The dose is a capful taken twice daily. I have also prescribed Arnica 30c in the Wet dose to be taken twice daily as this too helps in the cure for Arthritis.

Gout is more difficult to stabilize and I have had some reports from patients to whom I prescribed Arnica 200c in the Wet dose that their pain has lessened. I cannot however guarantee a cure with this remedy.

I would appreciate if other prescribers on this Forum will please advise.'

You have taken just one sentence contained in my post which is out of context when I stated: ' I cannot however guarantee a cure with this remedy.'

You seem to imply that I do not trust that Arg Met 6c can help Gout and that therefore my prescribing it for you is contraindicated. You will appreciate that I made this assertion in 2009 and based my statement on the fact that many patients had confirmed that it had helped to cure Gout. This fact has been confirmed during the past 3 years but I cannot even today GUARANTEE A CURE for Gout in your case or in the case of any other patients whom I have treated in the past or will treat in the future for any ailment.

You must understand that no Consultant on this or other Forums can give a GUARANTEE to cure any patient of any ailment. We can only try to help suffering humanity and I do resent your attitude in wanting a GUARANTEE

I regret to inform you that I am compelled to withdraw from your case as you do not deserve my help to resolve your Gout.
Joe De Livera last decade

Thank god, That you, yourself have withdrawn from my case.

Best regards
[message edited by sanjaysharma on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:30:58 GMT]
sanjaysharma last decade
To Sanjay

It is very rarely that a patient on any Homeopathic Forum is as insulting as you are, as evidenced in your last post. At first I thought that I should just leave it alone but it so happens that I am suffering from a cold today and am at home and do not have the pressure of any work in office which would not otherwise have permitted me to reply to your tirade in a suitable manner.

It seems a shame that the young twerp that you are at 36 years of age dares to insult me a person over twice your age (83) who tried to help you and suffering humanity in the manner that I have always done for the last 10 years on this Forum and on others some of which I have been the founding member many years ago.

You are correct in your statement that I do use and prescribe Arnica in a manner that other homeopaths would not dare to do. I do so simply because I discovered about 35 years ago that Arnica, which I have classified as a Miracle Remedy, has helped many in a manner that other remedies could not equate.

Visit 'Arnica Miracle Remedy' on my website for more details:


You have accused me of using 'Joepathy' which you do not consider as Homeopathy but there are many others who do so in the Homeopathic world. You may like to know that my 'This for That' protocol is the only method used by the Prasanta Banerji Homeopathic Research Foundation:


You have classified me as a Qua-ck but if you will visit my website and read the glowing tributes that patients have recorded therein you may hopefully think otherwise.

Visit 'Robert Ray was CURED from the after effects of 3 Strokes he suffered from 2002 to 2010'


I would like to conclude my reply to your insulting post by copying your own with my comments on the penultimate paragraph:

'I do leave it to that. it will not bring any use to argue with an elderly man like yours, in our culture we respect them seeing their white hair and for their life experiences, but i do have to mention a few go nuts at this age. evidence is out there on this forum and other homeopathy forums. '

I can read from your comments made above that you comprehension of the English language is very basic and by no means refined. I can assure you however that your statement that 'a few go nuts at this age' does not hold true in my case as evidenced in my reply above.

Reading your posts on this thread it seems obvious to me that you suffer from a SWOLLEN HEAD perhaps due to some Superiority Complex which impels you to feel at your tender age, that you are the Center of the Universe. You are advised to change your outlook immediately as this will only lead you to more serious problems especially in your interaction with others in your life which will harm both you and your immediate family. What you badly need, judging by your tirade on this thread is a dose of HUMILITY to enable you to realize that others too are possessed of minds that have seen the test of time and in my case have decided to help anyone in distress who appeals for assistance on this forum or on my website.

I wish you well and hope that the 'classical' homeopaths whom you classify as real 'doctors' will succeed in helping your Gout which incidentally is very unusual at your tender age and that they will guarantee a cure of your Gout.
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe,

In my view arnica can not be the cure for everything.If it can and beneficial for your patients. well and good.

as for me i do not belive it will.so i leave it to that.

what you said about me is not true and so i ignore it.

Good luck and god bless you.

[message edited by sanjaysharma on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:57:52 GMT]
sanjaysharma last decade

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