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White Clumps on Tonsils

Hi. For the past 3 months I have been coughing up malleable white clumps that smell strongly. Only today did I realize that these clumps came from my tonsils. They seem to be forming on top of them. I have also had a constant cough for the past 3 weeks. I don't know if it is connected but my cough gets much worse at night. Does anyone have even an inkling to what this might be?

Thank you.
  rocknricer on 2005-07-17
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
The whole of the interior of the body is lined with mucus.
In the lungs there are cilia which gently shift muck from the lungs up to where it can be coughed up and got rid of.
It is not impossible that the lumps originate on your tonsils , but unlikely.

Smell strongly -- of what, be specific, also what color.
walkin last decade
Your tonsils may well be infected. You should see the doc and consider having them taken out. I had same symptoms at 17 . My immune system was v. low . As it turned out,the tonsil infection was leaching toxins back into my system and causing me to feel constantly unwell. After I had them removed , no more white spots, no more sore throats, and many less flu related illnesses. Do consider.
carlotta last decade
You are one of the few lucky ones who benefited from a tonsilectomy.

I had been suffering from frequent weekly colds and throat ailments when I was young and at age 17 my tonsils were removed. This made a bad situation worse and I really suffered without my tonsils as my throat was constantly in severe pain for many years after till I discovered Homeopathy at age 35 which cured me.

I am now 76 years old and would not recommend that anyone has a tonsillectomy unless after at least 6 cultures are done on his throat and it is found that he is infected with Beta Haemolyticus Streptococcus which is a very dangerous bacteria which can cause problems in the joints, kidneys and heart if the patient suffers from regular infections. It is then and only then that a tonsillectomy can be said to help the patient.

Homeopathy can help to overcome any problems in the URT and in the case of Rocknicer I would suggest that he uses Bell 30 twice daily and report progress in a few days.
Joe De Livera last decade
Absolutely agree with Joe-- avoid surgical operation at ALL costs.

This simply suppresses and drives problems deeper into the interior of the body.

Belladonna could help , as could answers to the questions.
walkin last decade
Dear Rocknricer,

You are suffering from Streptococcus aureus infection.

Apparently this is more common then I initially thought but it is the bacteria Strep aureus causing the infection of "white clumps that smell strongly".

As regarding the origin of the infections, defiantly not from the lung, as if it was you would be having other minor/major symptoms (i.e. fevers, shortness of breath, clubbing etc).

The origin in most of these infections as usual are multifactor; for example it could be related to an imbalance within your gut resulting in the over growth of a certain bacteria; or you could have a lack of balance within your pH of the mouth which results in the over growth of Strep aureus.

You have bacteria that are in your mouth naturally occurring to help prevent infections, and also help in production of a small amount of enzymes that helps in the digestion of foods. So it is originating from an imbalance. Where well that depends on your symptoms and past health history.

Your over all immune system is functioning but not at a level that helps fight of the infection completely.

Tonsillectomy is the last thing you want to get done, as it is a major part of you immune system.

Hope this helps answer your original question.


Common Sense Doc (Dr.)
apu_stiffler last decade
These are called tonsil stones. There are natural ways to treat them without having your tonsils removed. Also do a web search on tonsil stones and you'll get tons of information. I'm using something called therabreath that is helping me.
basilfry last decade
Yes catarrh from the posterior nares clearing clearing stuff out of the sinus cavities is a possible source.

Staphylococcus aureus is another case where the use of antibiotics created the lethal Methycillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus [or MRSA]. . Dr Ken Harvey, director of. Microbiology at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia, where a particularly virulent strain of MRSA bacteria swept through the wards, said recently: 'We may, look back at the antibiotic era as just a passing. phase in the history of medicine, an era in which a great, natural resource was squandered and where the bugs proved smarter than the scientists
He is especially critical of doctors who constantly use broad-spectrum antibiotics ,an indiscriminate drug which kills a wide range of bugs in circumstances where they are unnecessary. " Broad spectrum, antibiotics are the refuge of the diagnostically 'destitute". he said. The British Medical Journal is shortly to publish advice to GPs and hospitals on the best, way to control outbreaks of MRSA.

So you are not in any danger as your immune system has coped with the problem.
walkin last decade
An overgrowth of bacteria colonization is not a sign of an immune system that is functioning without any problem.

Over growths of bacteria's, signifies the right environment to have an over growth of bacteria ‘A’ which results in enzymes secreted from the bacteria ‘A’, resulting in increased growth of the bacteria colony ‘A’ resulting in the destruction of other colonies that are naturally supposed to be present in your oral cavity.

Hence why the bad odor is building up, is because of the bacteria overgrowth.

Mind you some may say your body is healthy but your breath is not... just doesn't make sense does it? Bad breath in medicine is a cause of concern, hence why we have testing to make sure the strain of bacteria is not a potential harmful one resulting in further complications.

P.S. in this case posterior clearing of the sinus cavities is not the problem in this case, although it can cause similar symptoms; symptoms are not to be used alone, hence Hahnemann’s demand on the knowledge of disease; i.e. signs and symptoms (which seems to be forgotten in homoeopathic practice).

Yours truly

Common Sense Doc
apu_stiffler last decade
You can try a gently massage under the tonsils from the area under the jaw bone as often as you can as this will increase the blood supply to the tonsil fossa and this can perhaps help you to overcome your problem.

Please try it and report.
Joe De Livera last decade
Correction to the above:

You can try a GENTLE massage.
Joe De Livera last decade
To Rocknricer and anyone else interested, I just found a more extensive discussion of this problem. You are definitely not alone!! Check out the White Bumps in Throat posting.
metoo last decade

I suffered from white clumps on my tonsils for over 3 yrs. So I completely know how everyone feels in this forum. The correct term for these white clumps are tonsil stones.

I’ve tried everything, my doctor initially thought it was an infection and prescribed me antibiotics. That didn’t help at all. I then went to see a Throat Specialist, he told me tonsil stones are very common. Most people have got them, but they don’t notice it because they just swallow it. The reason why people get the balls stuck at the back of your throat, is because when you eat, food gets stuck in the tiny holes called the tonsil crypts.

So over time, the tiny holes (tonsil crypts) in your tonsils get filled up with bacteria and food particles which then become smelly. There is one way of removing the balls in your throat, use a water jet syringe and squirt the water onto the white ball. But that’s only a temporary relief, because it will grow again.

I’ve seen 2 naturopaths and 1 homeopath about my problem, but they couldn’t help either. I have to say I have spent almost $800, just seeing naturopaths and specialists.

A few months ago, a friend introduced me to this berry juice called the Himilayan Goji Juice. I’ve been taken it for a few months now, and my tonsil stones have completely gone! Its just unbelievable, the juice is made up of a berry called Goji (Lycium Barbarum). You may not have heard of Goji before, but it has been used in traditional Asian medicine remedies for generations.

What encouraged me to give it a try is that it is formulated by the Nutritionist Dr Earl Mindell, the man who wrote the Vitamin Bible, which sold more than 10 million copies worldwide.

I really think you should try this juice, as it has certainly helped me. I drink 30mls everyday in the morning. Here is the website, give it a try.

w w w . e v e r l a s t i n g . f r e e l i f e . c o m

Let me know if it helped you too!
Tiffany23 last decade
okay so i those white things too.
always had.
always thoguht nothing of them just annoying.
But lately in my left tonsil i have been getting really sharp pains to point of me wanting to cry or just taking tylonel and then id spit the white clumps out sometimes they will bleed sometimes not.
I just dont know what to do because I have tried the salt water and the mouth wash.
AND I know a lot of you said not to get the surgery but I dunno what to do..
I think that may be my option but its only my left tonsil...
I plan on going to the doctor very soon though...
reflection last decade
The whie clumps are called tonsil stones. They are collections of food and bacteria that collect in the pockets and pits (crypts) in the tonsils. I've probably had CCT since I was a little kid, but it was not diagnosed until I was about 21. While popping out one of the white balls of junk with a toothpick, I realized it wasn't just a surface pit. I found the dullest toothpick in the box, gently pulled down on the hole, and wanted to throw up from the amount of stuff that came out. Then I attacked the other tonsil and was equally as disgusted. The 2 ENT's I saw made me feel like I had some rare-contagious disease, and got me out of their offices as fast as possible by telling me the risks associated with adult tonsilectomy.

I've managed to deal with the situation by irrigating the holes with a water syringe and plain ol' water (manually operated, like the kind you get after wisdom tooth removal.) When infections come up, I mix a little hydrogen peroxide and Listerine. I'm not suggesting you go digging around and poking your tonsils, but if you have such large pockets as I do, it might be worth a shot for those that don't have medical support. I clean my tonsils about once a week. You'd be surprised how much collects in there over 7 days. Do your best not to swallow anything, as it's full of bacteria. If you add peroxide or any other medicine, don't swallow that either. Once I have the syringe in place, I'll bend over into the sink so the liquid drains forward. Then I'll use a q-tip to collect the solid stuff.

It's a pain in more ways than one, but until I find a better solution, this will do. For me, it's better than being embarrassed and unable to speak to people at close range. I'm 30 now, and will be having another round at the Dr.'s office this week, trying to find an ENT with a better option, or at least a better method of cleaning. I must be doing something right, as I don't get as many colds as I used to, and I haven't had a sinus infection in a long time. I've heard several times that the tonsils shrink as you get older. I wonder how old I have to be for that to start happening...

Take care, everyone.
Spanky1 last decade
Read the post
girilal last decade

I was on google looking for an answer about something that was up with my tonsils. I have these white patches on my tonsils, looks like strep, but I don't have a sore throat. Then I came across this site. Of course I am now distracted and haven't found my answer, but I did find the anwer to the yellow 'balls' that come out of my tonsils that smell extremely bad!! I thought for the longest time I was the only one who got these. I am releived to know that I am not the only one. But, it still doesn't answer the question that I have about the white 'ooze' patches on my tonsils. I thought it could be one of 3 things. I thought it could be the hand, foot, mouth disease because of the white patches. But they don't hurt and they are only on my tonsils, so that one is out. Then I thought it was strep or tonsillitis, but I don't have a sore throat. My right tonsil hurts because I thought it was a tonsil stone (glad I know the name now instead of calling them the yellow thingys)and I pushed too hard and punctured my tonsil (oops). Now, there is a white oozy area where I poked a hole in my tonsil. I have been trying to look up on the internet anything I can about white spots (not the tonsil stones because mine are yellow) with no sore throat, but nothing comes up. I don't think it is Thrush either because once again, no sore throat. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
kyanne last decade
try xylitol
snorkels4 last decade
Hi everyone,

I have to say that when doctors prescribe you anti-biotics to get rid of your tonsil stones (white balls), it doesnt really help as tonsil stones are not infections but food particles which have been trapped in the tonsil crypts (tiny holes in your tonsils).

As time passes by, the food particles begin to accumulate bacteria, which is the cause of the foul smell. I have had tonsil stones for 3 years. I've been to medical doctors, specialists, naturopaths and homeopaths. They just kept giving me herbal medicine or anti-biotics which never got rid of my problem. After a while, the cost of my medicine was adding up.

One day I went to this Body, Mind and Health expo. And there was a store there selling Himilayan Goji Juice. I found out that goji berry is one of the most nutritionally dense foods on the planet, and I never even heard of it. After doing some research, I found out its backed by the an international nutritionist called Dr. Earl Mindell, which conducted 8 years of research into this berry. He is the man who wrote the Vitamin Bible which sold more than 10 million copies.

Anyway, I did some research on w w w. p u b m e d. org, and typed in 'Lycium Barbarum', which is the name of the berry and found over 72 medical studies on it.

Then I also went to w w w. g o j i b o o k. com, and found lots of information on this amazing berry.

For the last 5 months, I've been drinking 2 onces of this juice everyday. Its just incredible, I have not seen a tonsil stone at all! How it worked on me i'm not sure. But all I know is that its definately have eliminated the balls in my throat. You can get the juice at w w w. e v e r l a s t i n g. f r e e l i f e. c o m. You probably need to try it for a month or two before your see the results.

Anyway, hope this helps
Tiffany23 last decade
This discussion has been so helpful for me! I have had these white clumps for over a year now. I mentioned it to a good friend once, and she had them too. She said she went to one of the holistic docs in our area, and he took one from her and said it was yeast. He told her it was caused by candida.

Does anyone know if this is related to the bacteria involved? I have just been trying to learn more about candida, but the discussions on this forum have been much more helpful than the information I have found on candida. I have read about many other symptoms people with candida problems have and the only other one I seem to have is low energy. The only other concern I had was that I have been on birth control for over 7 years, which also has been said to be a cause for candida problems.

Thanks everyone for your helpful comments. It is good (in a weird kind of way I guess) to know there are many others experiencing this.

Does anyone know if a local health food store would carry those goji berries? I found a health food store online (I think that's what it was) that sells dried goji berries.
ladyn last decade
I was wondering if anyone that has had their tonsils out has experienced improvement in voice quality AND breathing ability after the surgery? I have had enlarged tonsils for years and difficulty 'clearing my throat' and talking for extended periods has made me consider having them out despite my mom's(RN) protests. I feel like my voice is muffled....
maebliss last decade
Hi! I also have this white patches on my tonsils.Here is my history: I had pain and fever and difficulty swallowing 4 weeks ago. The doctor prescribed Augmentin 375mgs twice a day for 7 days. After I finished the antibiotics and I took tylenol for the fever and pain, The fever was gone, but I felt like there were cuts still in my throat and I only could eat soft foods. After 2 weeks I could eat normally.But recently, about 3 days ago, I noticed there are white patches on my tonsils, I do not know if this is pus or abscess that collected or what they call Peritonsillar abscess (I looked it up in google), but if its PTA there should be fever and pain, I do not feel anything at all, I do not have cough or bad mouth odor. I saw that in PTA the treatment is incision and drainage or pus aspiration through local anesthesia, has anybody done that before? I have not consulted yet, I am afraid they might say surgery or something..
christineplatero last decade
You will find a lot of confused and false information about tonsil stones and white ooze on the internet.I have also found that GPs are, in general, equally confused about the cause. According to the ENT specialist I finally saw, both the stones and ooze (creamy or lumpy cottage cheese like)come from enlarged tonsillar crypts. The crypts are NORMAL structures in the tonsil.The crypts may have become enlarged as a result of severe tonsillitis in the past. The crypts trap food particles etc. in your throat and bacteria feed on this accumulated debris, producing the smelly stones and secretions. If you have this problem all the time then it is classed as low grade chronic tonsillitis and the only real cure is a tonsillectomy. I just had my tonsils removed ,at age 52, and I already feel better without the constant poisoning.
Digibitz last decade
After doing research all night I think that these are possibly being caused by candida. Many people who say they get these small white balls also have sinus problems (also candida related) I am 42 and had these when I was a child alot. I just recently noticed them again in the last few months. I just felt like I had bad breath. I looked for the balls but did not see any, then low and behold one came out tonight. My parents and family are sugar addicted. I am too, I am not overweight but I need sugar and drink lots of caffeine and I also drink alcohol, all of which contribute to candida. I am also very lethargic and have been for some years. I would like to use natural remedies to cure this but I hate it so I dont have the patience. I read another post where someone cured his candida after his doctor prescribed fluconozole. I will try this remedy. I havent had these balls for awhile but my breath has been bad for along time (maybe 3 months) I brush 5 times a day. I truly believe its candida. I am going to try to change my diet also because most of the research I have done says change diet. No chocolate, bread, white and wheat, many things related to yeast. My whole life there has been a correlation between white carbs and me crashing so I stopped eating them long ago but I still like cookies and sweets. We will see what happens. I think many doctors dont really correlate food to health problems but its very important.
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allegrapena last decade

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