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repetition of sulphur
my seven year old son has excoriation of skin of his hands and vessicles on tongue. one homeopath suggested giving him sulphur 30C once daily for two weeks plus calc phos 6X twice daily for two weeks. is it right to give sulphur 30C like this? can we repeat sulphur like this mechanically? iif i do like this, wil it be more harmful than useful? please clarify my doubt in this regard. i would like to hear all kinds of opinion on this matter.thahir.
pcthahir on 2012-03-25
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That is quite a lot of the remedy. I would normally never give more than 3 doses before resassessing the case. 14 doses seems excessive to me.
Of course some patients do need more doses than others, and some patients appear to tolerate frequent dosing better. Personally I would not risk it. Law of the Minimum Dose in homoeopathy requires we only give the least amount of the medicine to effect a change. Did your homoepath give instructions on when to stop, what kinds of reactions to look out for, what side effects you might get?
Mixing two remedies together is also breaking one of the cardinal rules of homoeopathy (Law of the Single Remedy). Are you sure your practitioner is a qualified homoeopath? Do you know where he or she studied?
Of course some patients do need more doses than others, and some patients appear to tolerate frequent dosing better. Personally I would not risk it. Law of the Minimum Dose in homoeopathy requires we only give the least amount of the medicine to effect a change. Did your homoepath give instructions on when to stop, what kinds of reactions to look out for, what side effects you might get?
Mixing two remedies together is also breaking one of the cardinal rules of homoeopathy (Law of the Single Remedy). Are you sure your practitioner is a qualified homoeopath? Do you know where he or she studied?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
my doubt is, in the case of sulphur 30 isn't three continuous doses given mechanically without telling to observe the reactions too much of the remedy? won't one single dose of sulphur 30 act for a long time? of course, he is a qualified homeopath and is a well sought after one. but this is the case here in kerala, india. almost every homeopath prescribes like this and they will even mix more than two or thre medicines. but the great homeopath boericke also speaks of mechanical repetition. what about that? maximum how many doses of 30C potency of a particular medicine do you give to treat an acute condition like fever, cold etc?
thahir.
thahir.
pcthahir last decade
Mechancial repetition breaks the rules of homoeopathy. I cannot comment on Boericke's disregard of this rule, but I doubt it was to his patient's advantage. Many homoeopaths of old felt that aggravation was appropriate, so they did not worry to much about it.
Some patients need more than one dose to get a reaction. I might suggest up to 3 doses of 30c as a maximum amount, but only with provision to stop the remedy when there is a reaction. So many patients will only do 1 or 2 doses not 3.
30c may last a short or long time, there is no predicting that. Typically 30c will last a long time if the potency is exactly right for the patient. If it is too low for them, it will not last very long at all and will need more frequent repetition. Eventually you must move up in potency to continue progress. Very often too low a potency will only help part of the case, and leave other parts untouched.
If 30c is too high for the patient one of two things will happen. Either the reaction will be too strong, and may last too long, or there will be no reaction at all.
There is no set dosage for homoeopathy, it is tailored to the individual situation. Acute or chronic, you assess each dose and make an intelligent decision as to how to proceed. The Organon of Medicine is clear about that.
I do not understand Indian homoeopaths and their disregard for the teachings of homoeopathy, of Hahnemann. It is perplexing to me. Why bother learning from the Organon if you are going to break some of the most important rules? What seems stranger to me is that some of the most classical homoeopaths come from India, such as Dr. Rajan Sankaran. I know that proper homoeopathy is taught there, alongside this other corrupted type.
Can you insist he make only one prescription, or would he refuse to treat you then?
Some patients need more than one dose to get a reaction. I might suggest up to 3 doses of 30c as a maximum amount, but only with provision to stop the remedy when there is a reaction. So many patients will only do 1 or 2 doses not 3.
30c may last a short or long time, there is no predicting that. Typically 30c will last a long time if the potency is exactly right for the patient. If it is too low for them, it will not last very long at all and will need more frequent repetition. Eventually you must move up in potency to continue progress. Very often too low a potency will only help part of the case, and leave other parts untouched.
If 30c is too high for the patient one of two things will happen. Either the reaction will be too strong, and may last too long, or there will be no reaction at all.
There is no set dosage for homoeopathy, it is tailored to the individual situation. Acute or chronic, you assess each dose and make an intelligent decision as to how to proceed. The Organon of Medicine is clear about that.
I do not understand Indian homoeopaths and their disregard for the teachings of homoeopathy, of Hahnemann. It is perplexing to me. Why bother learning from the Organon if you are going to break some of the most important rules? What seems stranger to me is that some of the most classical homoeopaths come from India, such as Dr. Rajan Sankaran. I know that proper homoeopathy is taught there, alongside this other corrupted type.
Can you insist he make only one prescription, or would he refuse to treat you then?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
dear sir, thanks a lot for your valuable response. this homeopath of mine is very egotistic. he won't entertain any kind of doubt or suggestion from his patients. usually he won't even divulge the names of remedies he prescribes. once he prescribed tuberculinum 200C four doses, one dose per week for my child. my child responded well to the first dose. but because of his mechanical repetition, those initial results were cancelled. but he won't accept anything from our part. as you hinted, aggravation to him is not a problem. he has not read the sixth edition of organon, so far as i understand.
anyway, in this particular case, can i give my son sulphur 30C three doses one dose per day giving it five or ten succussions with each dose? it seems to me that he is a sulphur type. he has other problems as well. he has increased eye pressure in both eyes. he is treating him basically for that. and his prescriptions are capable of maintaining his eye pressure within limits, even though it seems to me his recent prescriptions do not produce as much result as they used to do in the past.
if you have time, i can tell you more about his constitution and symptoms so that you can decide his remedy.
thahir.
anyway, in this particular case, can i give my son sulphur 30C three doses one dose per day giving it five or ten succussions with each dose? it seems to me that he is a sulphur type. he has other problems as well. he has increased eye pressure in both eyes. he is treating him basically for that. and his prescriptions are capable of maintaining his eye pressure within limits, even though it seems to me his recent prescriptions do not produce as much result as they used to do in the past.
if you have time, i can tell you more about his constitution and symptoms so that you can decide his remedy.
thahir.
pcthahir last decade
I am sorry to hear he is so unreasonable. Well you may have to ignore his dosage suggestions and just give one dose yourself from now on. If he has not bothered to educate himself, he is a danger to you and your family. Be very cautious about taking his advice.
You should only succuss the bottle 1-2 times between each dose. 5-10 is far too many and will create too strong a reaction. I usually have patients do 2 succussions unless they are too sensitive for that.
I am happy to take the case if you like. Let me post my intake questions for children.
1. Describe in detail the main problem - appearance, colour, shape, symptoms, behaviour etc. What happens, when it happens etc.
2. Describe any pains or behaviours associated with the symptoms.
3. Describe anything that makes the problem worse ie. position, temperature, food etc.
4. Describe anything that makes the problem better ie. pain is better for cold bathing or at night in bed.
5. Go through each symptom or problem he/she has, doing the same thing (answering questions 1-4), even if the problem does not seem connected to any others.
6. When did each problem start? What happened around that same time?
7. What is his/her character like? What kinds of fears or anxieties does he/she have? What makes him/her irritable? Flesh out his/her personality.
8. What foods does he/she crave or hate? What drinks does he/she crave or hate? Is he/she sensitive to anything he/she eats or drinks?
9. How does the weather or season affect him/her?
10. How have all his/her milestones gone? Does he/she have any issue with speaking, learning, walking, climbing etc
11. How is he/she with socializing with others?
12. What is his/her bowel habit like? Any problems? Any odours, strange colours or stool shapes?
13. Where does he/she sweat? Does it have a smell or does it stain a particular colour?
14. History of illnesses in his/her life?
15. Has he/she reacted to any vaccines or medical drugs?
16. Problems with sleep? Position he/she sleeps in? Nightmares or any dreams he/she talks about?
17. How is he/she with animals?
18. How is he/she with adults or strangers?
19. What is the family history of illness and disease?
20. What was the pregnancy like? Any odd symptoms or feelings that disappeared once he/she was born?
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
You should only succuss the bottle 1-2 times between each dose. 5-10 is far too many and will create too strong a reaction. I usually have patients do 2 succussions unless they are too sensitive for that.
I am happy to take the case if you like. Let me post my intake questions for children.
1. Describe in detail the main problem - appearance, colour, shape, symptoms, behaviour etc. What happens, when it happens etc.
2. Describe any pains or behaviours associated with the symptoms.
3. Describe anything that makes the problem worse ie. position, temperature, food etc.
4. Describe anything that makes the problem better ie. pain is better for cold bathing or at night in bed.
5. Go through each symptom or problem he/she has, doing the same thing (answering questions 1-4), even if the problem does not seem connected to any others.
6. When did each problem start? What happened around that same time?
7. What is his/her character like? What kinds of fears or anxieties does he/she have? What makes him/her irritable? Flesh out his/her personality.
8. What foods does he/she crave or hate? What drinks does he/she crave or hate? Is he/she sensitive to anything he/she eats or drinks?
9. How does the weather or season affect him/her?
10. How have all his/her milestones gone? Does he/she have any issue with speaking, learning, walking, climbing etc
11. How is he/she with socializing with others?
12. What is his/her bowel habit like? Any problems? Any odours, strange colours or stool shapes?
13. Where does he/she sweat? Does it have a smell or does it stain a particular colour?
14. History of illnesses in his/her life?
15. Has he/she reacted to any vaccines or medical drugs?
16. Problems with sleep? Position he/she sleeps in? Nightmares or any dreams he/she talks about?
17. How is he/she with animals?
18. How is he/she with adults or strangers?
19. What is the family history of illness and disease?
20. What was the pregnancy like? Any odd symptoms or feelings that disappeared once he/she was born?
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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