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fear of letting go
IU was prescirbed Nat Mur 200 for a peristant and long lasting problem. I was unable to be allone. Instead of facing loniness, I distracted myself with 'overconsumption' of internet, tv, porn, eating fatty unhealthy food...I took the Nat Mur 200 once two weeks ago and report back, as BrisbaneHomeopath asked me to.
I had all the bad symptons the first 5 days. I did not want to go out. watched films all day. wasted time on the internet, no purpose in it. lots of porn and need to masturbate, could not stop it. I did not feel consciously allone, but had only these symphones that distracted me (porn, internet, not going out in fresh air). I never went out before 17.00h. all day I did not do anything.
positive, I felt lots of 'loosening' up in the lower back area. In fact my backpain which I have for long time and slipped disk disappeared. before the tablet the disk moved when I lay on the left or rightside, especially left side. between day 5 and 9 it did not happen, the disk stayed in place.
I had also tooth ache. as described above.
Also, I had thoughts it is not in fact the feeling allone that the problem is perhgaps. (as I also do not feel allone),. but rather to leave people/leave situation and then come into the situation of being allone. so the act of seperation is a BIG issue. I assuume it dates back to chldhood. I never, every could leave people behind when I felt time was to move on. I waited and then I cam in the situation of being allone, and I got depressed as described above. but in fact., I would like to move on and not be attached topeople. this came so clear after the rmeedy.
I will observe how the tooth goes and then go tot he dentist.
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I had some quiet time, and pondering about some things.
I also feel, that I can not manage if someone loves me, is kind to me. e.g. in a relationship, I might actually like to be treated badly. e.g. when I am allone I tend to need to masturbate, but also when things are good, very good. I fear closness. was an issue as a child already. this destroyed a lot of relationships. I felt often I hate woman (eprhaps becuase I hate my mom) treating them very badly in relationships. I feel this is more important then the other one. with leaving and moving on. if I sort this, no need to move on. I have difficult with many relationships on many levels (job, sport etc)
I can not understand, hope it makes sense to you..
Re: feeling lonely From brisbanehomoeopath on 2012-04-17
That's ok I understand. I was just wondering if you wanted to continue treatment. Do you have a copy of your old post - I need that to refer back for assessment or to make new prescriptions.
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Re: feeling lonely From brisbanehomoeopath on 2012-04-17
That last post of yours still seems to describe Nat-mur, so we need to assess what has happened and look at repeating the dose, or changing potency.
johnmill on 2012-04-18
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Is this all the information you provided when I suggested the remedy?
It seems there was an aggravation followed by some amelioration of symptoms. I would repeat the remedy but this time dilute the drop in a full cup of water.
It seems there was an aggravation followed by some amelioration of symptoms. I would repeat the remedy but this time dilute the drop in a full cup of water.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
there was more info, I will get it and post it later here.
if I have a cup, do I drink the cup in one go or over a period?
however, i will wait until you read the other part
if I have a cup, do I drink the cup in one go or over a period?
however, i will wait until you read the other part
johnmill last decade
Did I not give you instructions for dosage? I think I remember this case, didn't I just suggest to compare the two choices you were given, so I may not have advised how to take the remedy.
INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING
Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules or 2-4 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.
Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).
Place 1 drop into an amount of water - I may start with anything from 1/4-1 full cup (62ml-250ml) depending on the sensitivity of the patient. Stir thoroughly and take 1 teaspoon into the mouth. Throw the rest of the cup away. Wash the cup and spoon in hot water, no detergent, and put them to the side for further dosing.
This is one dose. Repeat doses would be started from the 2 hits on the bottle.
Each step of this process can be adjusted to reduced aggravation or to increase the effect of the medicine. In order to be able to do this, it is important to measure each step (count the hits, the drops, measure the water etc).
INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING
Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules or 2-4 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.
Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).
Place 1 drop into an amount of water - I may start with anything from 1/4-1 full cup (62ml-250ml) depending on the sensitivity of the patient. Stir thoroughly and take 1 teaspoon into the mouth. Throw the rest of the cup away. Wash the cup and spoon in hot water, no detergent, and put them to the side for further dosing.
This is one dose. Repeat doses would be started from the 2 hits on the bottle.
Each step of this process can be adjusted to reduced aggravation or to increase the effect of the medicine. In order to be able to do this, it is important to measure each step (count the hits, the drops, measure the water etc).
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
here is the info. if you still need it
I had all my life the talent to distract myself to avoid feeling lone, but in fact I was always lonley. it is unbearable for me to feel lonely. My distraction started pehraps with masturbation as a 12 year old (Which I gratefully overcome just recently, i am 35), later hwen I came to the internet, I distracted myself with this, I also started unsensible project, which would be of real benefit. e.g. if I was a carpenter, I become interested in writing etc. i was not able to focus on my keyskills (which I have difficult to find, because I put myself always under stress) if i am under stress, I know I wont be lonely.
Also, my fear of being lonely developed into a control freak. my wife is one victicm, being oppionated, controlling knowledge, another effect.
I can no teven feel sad, because I feel lonley, I put a huge wall around me, not allowing me to suffer. I feel inside me I would like ot cry, but I do not allow it. I would feel hurt...:S
Can someone help?
something else, I had exessive time on the internet, not wanting to go out, sleeping a lot and watching porn..:S but this is not important re kidney, but in case you need to know
I took Silica 6x a month ago.
I was worried about a total kidney failure, especially as the 1rst molar got worst (i feel this might be linked to some organ (kidney/pancreas, spleen?)
the remedy is really good working on other things, I have spent no single minute outside (same for instance, when I had a very difficult situation/seperation before in my life)
relating to the fear of being allone, I had always inner nervousness, not being able to relax, perhaps the distraction comes from this inner nervourness. I could not proper meditate or relax, although I slept a lot, I could not meditate.
i have been eating lots of junk food, pizza, lots of icecream (which I ate when I was teen)
I did not like to go out since taking the remedy, did not like fresh air. a big problem in the past, but my passion is nature. so I am stopped to enjoy my passion...
I do not like to see any people. Anyone. I want to make myself lonely, this how it feels, this was the case in the past too.
nothing else I can thing of
A friend who is a healer, ask, why do I feel so lonely? why do I feel everthing I do is bad and its my fault? I am not aware of it, it must sit very deep.
I had all my life the talent to distract myself to avoid feeling lone, but in fact I was always lonley. it is unbearable for me to feel lonely. My distraction started pehraps with masturbation as a 12 year old (Which I gratefully overcome just recently, i am 35), later hwen I came to the internet, I distracted myself with this, I also started unsensible project, which would be of real benefit. e.g. if I was a carpenter, I become interested in writing etc. i was not able to focus on my keyskills (which I have difficult to find, because I put myself always under stress) if i am under stress, I know I wont be lonely.
Also, my fear of being lonely developed into a control freak. my wife is one victicm, being oppionated, controlling knowledge, another effect.
I can no teven feel sad, because I feel lonley, I put a huge wall around me, not allowing me to suffer. I feel inside me I would like ot cry, but I do not allow it. I would feel hurt...:S
Can someone help?
something else, I had exessive time on the internet, not wanting to go out, sleeping a lot and watching porn..:S but this is not important re kidney, but in case you need to know
I took Silica 6x a month ago.
I was worried about a total kidney failure, especially as the 1rst molar got worst (i feel this might be linked to some organ (kidney/pancreas, spleen?)
the remedy is really good working on other things, I have spent no single minute outside (same for instance, when I had a very difficult situation/seperation before in my life)
relating to the fear of being allone, I had always inner nervousness, not being able to relax, perhaps the distraction comes from this inner nervourness. I could not proper meditate or relax, although I slept a lot, I could not meditate.
i have been eating lots of junk food, pizza, lots of icecream (which I ate when I was teen)
I did not like to go out since taking the remedy, did not like fresh air. a big problem in the past, but my passion is nature. so I am stopped to enjoy my passion...
I do not like to see any people. Anyone. I want to make myself lonely, this how it feels, this was the case in the past too.
nothing else I can thing of
A friend who is a healer, ask, why do I feel so lonely? why do I feel everthing I do is bad and its my fault? I am not aware of it, it must sit very deep.
johnmill last decade
Was it a pillule or a tablet? Tablets usually won't dissolve very well. Pillules as sugar pills are much easier to work with in making the water doses.
It is important never to take the pillules directly, as this will cause a much larger aggravation than is necessary. It is also important never to repeat your dose this way - all doses need to be hit (succussed) and diluted.
It is important never to take the pillules directly, as this will cause a much larger aggravation than is necessary. It is also important never to repeat your dose this way - all doses need to be hit (succussed) and diluted.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
i took a tablet directly into the mouth, chewed. without the instructuion you just gave, you just gave them now..
I wanted to add, yes there were a remedy to choose from, Sulphur and you said natmur.
Should I take 1 dose (as in your direction) of nat-mur 200c? or something else?
I wanted to add, yes there were a remedy to choose from, Sulphur and you said natmur.
Should I take 1 dose (as in your direction) of nat-mur 200c? or something else?
johnmill last decade
Repeat the remedy Nat-mur once only in the way I suggested.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:40:59 BST]
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:40:59 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David, I need to go to the dentist I assume. but I have fear of the dentist and fear of drilling/pain associate with the visit. can you recommend some remedy I can use? I will do the natmur after this dental treatment, it gets really bad.
bascially i have
fear of dentist
fear of pain when tooth is touch by drill
fear of pain associated with air sucker
fear of just being there.
I get very cramped up and nervous, sweaty on forehead.
I just can not bear the whole procedure.
I have very had teeth recently as I mentioned earlier.
i will start a new postr so other can benefit too
[message edited by johnmill on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:05:08 BST]
bascially i have
fear of dentist
fear of pain when tooth is touch by drill
fear of pain associated with air sucker
fear of just being there.
I get very cramped up and nervous, sweaty on forehead.
I just can not bear the whole procedure.
I have very had teeth recently as I mentioned earlier.
i will start a new postr so other can benefit too
[message edited by johnmill on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:05:08 BST]
johnmill last decade
DAvid can you just adviuce what is best to do? first continue the natmur to end and do I have to wait for dental treatment until later or can I take arnica or gelesium 200 between nat-mur? what would be best?
johnmill last decade
That isn't how homoeopathy works, one remedy for this and one for that.
The one remedy should deal with the whole of your problems. Since this is really the first time you have told me this, I have not considered if Nat-mur can fit over it.
It also makes me think, that I may not have been given enough information previously, since this is a fairly important symptom.
Without doing a full analysis, I would suggest Calc carb for this situation. 30c taken once every day for 3 days, using the split dosing method.
The one remedy should deal with the whole of your problems. Since this is really the first time you have told me this, I have not considered if Nat-mur can fit over it.
It also makes me think, that I may not have been given enough information previously, since this is a fairly important symptom.
Without doing a full analysis, I would suggest Calc carb for this situation. 30c taken once every day for 3 days, using the split dosing method.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
good I asked again, as I did not mentioned it really - i had some tooth pain before, but it got worst after the nat mur.
just ordered the calc carb 30c and will report back (in one week?)
sorry for the confusion... homoepathy is really complex. just off topic, can ytou recommend a good, practical book which explains it really well. I am very interested to understand it more that this does not happen any more
just ordered the calc carb 30c and will report back (in one week?)
sorry for the confusion... homoepathy is really complex. just off topic, can ytou recommend a good, practical book which explains it really well. I am very interested to understand it more that this does not happen any more
johnmill last decade
Know from some other posts you have
interest in farming, soil, etc.
check out Homeopathyplus.com-
homeopath named Kaviraj who began
working healing soil with homeopathy.
think he is in the UK now or Europe.
He has a book Homeopathy for farm
and Garden, go look him up on Minimum
books.com- under author, most authors
on Minimum books have their own forum
on there where they answer real time
questions.
interest in farming, soil, etc.
check out Homeopathyplus.com-
homeopath named Kaviraj who began
working healing soil with homeopathy.
think he is in the UK now or Europe.
He has a book Homeopathy for farm
and Garden, go look him up on Minimum
books.com- under author, most authors
on Minimum books have their own forum
on there where they answer real time
questions.
♡ simone717 last decade
thanks Simone, I was directed to him, directly after he published his book and I have it here. but i need also basics for myself and human body and hpathy in general. the minimum is a great source, thanks a lot
johnmill last decade
Dear David, I took first dose of Calc Carb 30c as directed with the split dosing.
After 4 hourse tensions in back, kidney area i assume. should I carry on? or leave it.
tooth pain reduced by 90%.
After 4 hourse tensions in back, kidney area i assume. should I carry on? or leave it.
tooth pain reduced by 90%.
johnmill last decade
dear DAvid, I finished the tyhree doses, one each a day, in consecutive days, of Calc Carb as directed in splitt dosing.
The first day was bad, but i continued.
I feel good.
How long do I have to wait now to report back? Should I increase the succession to 4x?
I had no alcohol. but I used filtered water. can I add alkohol later?
The first day was bad, but i continued.
I feel good.
How long do I have to wait now to report back? Should I increase the succession to 4x?
I had no alcohol. but I used filtered water. can I add alkohol later?
johnmill last decade
the molar bottem right broke apart now and I need to see the dentist in the next couple of days. Can I take Gelsicum 200 (only thing I have here) before dentist appointment or would I have sideffects/because I took the calc carb?
I understand I need to wait 15 days? until reporting back on calc carb?
I understand I need to wait 15 days? until reporting back on calc carb?
johnmill last decade
Calc carb was given for the fear of the dentist. You should not need Gelsemium.
You don't need to wait so long to report. I am happy for you to feed back results after 5 days.
How exactly did you feel bad on the first day?
How exactly do you feel good now?
You don't need to wait so long to report. I am happy for you to feed back results after 5 days.
How exactly did you feel bad on the first day?
How exactly do you feel good now?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
ok
the first day:
pain all over the lower organs, kidney, spleen area, liver area. I was worried that something was too strong and stretching my organs health. I had protein in the urin again (had not for long time)
the second and third day got better and better.
Day 1 (after 3rd dose) awful, no motivation to do anything, watched iunternet, NO porn.
Day 2 same lack of motivation, but end of the day no interest in even watching movies, waste time on internet etc. very tiried.
Day 4 today, waking up with feeling, like cold air in lung and its hurting (worst than yesterday). (approx 3 years ago, I breathed very fine dust and had after that incident 3 days of spitting dark mucus out, my homeopath at that time did not help much, since then off and on I have mucus developing (sticky, slimy, not pain full) I feel calmer,
I feel I can only go to dentist, when I feel like day 2 and 3 (while taking dose).
the first day:
pain all over the lower organs, kidney, spleen area, liver area. I was worried that something was too strong and stretching my organs health. I had protein in the urin again (had not for long time)
the second and third day got better and better.
Day 1 (after 3rd dose) awful, no motivation to do anything, watched iunternet, NO porn.
Day 2 same lack of motivation, but end of the day no interest in even watching movies, waste time on internet etc. very tiried.
Day 4 today, waking up with feeling, like cold air in lung and its hurting (worst than yesterday). (approx 3 years ago, I breathed very fine dust and had after that incident 3 days of spitting dark mucus out, my homeopath at that time did not help much, since then off and on I have mucus developing (sticky, slimy, not pain full) I feel calmer,
I feel I can only go to dentist, when I feel like day 2 and 3 (while taking dose).
johnmill last decade
That all appears to be the aggravation from the remedy. Old symptoms returning is a particularly good sign. The improvement should begin to become clearer after the first week.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hi david, the week has passed. had a strong, positive dream tonight, but yesterday felt awful. I personally thought it was a psychic attack, but have no clear feeling of it, if it was or if it was aggrevation. feeling tired all day, pain in sinus area and light headache, had to sleep 2 hours at lunch time (which i did in the past), but today was good.
should I take the remedy again? same dose? same potency?
should I take the remedy again? same dose? same potency?
johnmill last decade
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