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Reoccurring Strep Throat

I think I have Strep Throat again, for the second time this summer. I have been treating it homeopathically for 4 days now with Ocillo for the fever, recurring as well...and Boiron Sore Throat combo remedy. I do not want to take an antibiotic, which is what I did the last time, the pain was unbearable. It seems to me that I am susceptible to this bacteria now ~probably thanks to the antibiotic!! A friend said I have to get my whole family tested to make sure they aren't carriers and even mold in the walls could be the culprit! I just want it to go away, I feel miserable,feverish, with sore tonsils. How long should I stick to the homeopathic remedies? Thank you for your help!
  zenmama on 2005-08-04
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Strep throat bacteria is found in a lot of peoples throats (mouths) the bacti usually cause sysmptoms when the immune system is down. I think you should carefully take you case (i.e. all your symtoms) and rx accordingly. Or list all your symptoms here and there is people who can help you here. You might be taking the wrong medication and is why it hasn't worked.
jose07 last decade
On the face of it, I'd say take Rhus tox 30, twice a day for 6 days. Other remedies to consider are belladonna, ferrum phos, aconite (a bit late for Aco, tho'), nux vomica, eupatorium perfoliatum, gelsemium, bryonia, phosphorus, Ars. Alb, etc. Please, what I mean is look up each remedy and choose the one that fits you best. However, much better if you report all symptoms, what makes your throat feel better, what worse, (i.e. warm or cool drinks, easier to swallow food or drink, type of pain, redness, etc. etc.) and a bit of info about yourself and any relevant history (actually, IMO, all history is relevant). Don't fool around with this - it can be dangerous.
Minsa last decade
Thanks for your replies. I can't fool around with this strep throat anymore. The remedies were working but the symptoms kept coming back.Went to doctor, I am on erythomyicin now, and I'm not happy about it. I can feel everything in my system getting cleaned out of everything good and bad. What can I take homeopathically when I am done with this aweful drug to get it out of my system? and can I take homeopathic remedies while I am on an antibiotic?
zenmama last decade
After your current problem is resolved I would suggest that you do a throat swab and culture to eliminate the bacteria "Beta Haemolyticus Streptococcus". This is a dangerous organism to have in one's throat as it can cause serious problems long term like Rheumatoid Arthritis, Nephritis and can also damage the heart valves.

This culture is best done when you get your next bout with a throat problem as it will show negative right now since you are on the antibiotic.

If the bug Beta HS is identified you will have to do other blood tests to verify the damage that may have been caused and take a long course of Pennicillin for about 6 months daily to eliminate it. This will be prescribed by your doctors, preferably specialists ENT's who will advise you.
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for the information about Beta HS. After all this antibiotic is taken what can I take homeopathically to flush it out ?
zenmama last decade
Anyone who takes penicillin for 6 months is asking for trouble!!.

As you can see below the high up medics deplore the use of broad band antibiotics--- that in the 70´s !!!

Transatlantic Spread of the USA300 Clone of MRSA
To the Editor: The emergence of community-acquired methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is of great concern. USA300, the predominant epidemic clone in numerous outbreaks in closed communities in the United States,2 is also increasingly seen in Europe.3 International travel and the increasing trend of training or working abroad among health care workers probably contribute to its global spread. This recent contribution to a magazine shows the deplorable lack of communication in the medical world . In the 1980´s I was urging that swabs be taken of the throats of all medical staff. I then realised that if you excluded the carriers of this lethal disease you would eliminate the majority of staff in the hospitals of the world. It seems that the people who care are the people who (unknowingly) kill!.

MRSA [methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus]
DRUG RESISTANT germs spreading through Britain's Hospitals are being blamed for the 'for the deaths of dozens of patients Doctors, are, alarmed because, the germ is resistant to virtually all common antibiotics. It has been identified in at least 32 London hospitals, and "outbreaks "have occurred in Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire, and East Anglia." Infected hospitals had to close wards and intensive care units and isolate patients' who are carriers Dr. Richard Smith assistant editor of the "British. Medical Journal said the potential is frightening the Bacteria are' only susceptible to one antibiotic, vancomycin and could eventually become resistant to that too, "
The strain the methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus, 'bacteria I (MRSA), known, as Super Staph " was First identified in an Essex hospital in 1981. Patients particularly at risk include the, elderly; those with open wounds, and people undergoing transplant, surgery, heart operations and kidney dialysis. Complications caused by the infection are believed to have contributed to, at, least 30 deaths since, April.
Dr Jean Bradley, chairman of working party, examining, the problem in the North East Thames Region said " It, has caused deaths in people who were basically well before they came into hospital. They have had an operation and died from the infection. The germ, which usually lives harmlessly or up the nose, is easily spread from patient to patient on the hands of medical or nursing staff
Although it is the same bacteria that often causes wounds to become infected, the dangerous, antibiotic resistant strain can lead to fatal blood poisoning as it fails to respond to ordinary treatment Scientists have' been warning for decades that over use of antibiotics could lead, to the emergence of resistant strains
A similar epidemic has been wreaking havoc in hospitals in Eastern Australia since the late, 1970s and has caused the deaths of hundreds of patients. One new London hospital the Homerton in Hackney was' forced to set aside an entire ward for MRSA infected when it opened in July.
Dr. Ken Grant district general manager for the City and. Hackney Health Authority said there was a significant increase in the number of people identified as carriers in. June and July
. We have been screening patients as they come in and, put carriers in a separate ward in the hope of 'eradicating. the infection. Staff with. the bacteria have, been I given anti microbial shampoo and nasal spray' " Basically problems arise when: staff and patients move from one hospital to another.
Virtually all the major London hospitals have. 'been 'affected, greatly adding to the cost of treatment. Guidelines for the control of outbreak have been. drawn ' up, by a working party of the Hospital Infection Society and the British Society for. Antimicrobial, Chemotherapy. Its report warns:' Effective' treatment of, serious infections has often proved difficult. The antimicrobial agents available are, often potentially. toxic, limited in number, difficult to administer and expensive. Isolation facilities are essential 'once an outbreak, ha& occurred.' The cost of an epidemic of MRSA is high. and the onus should be on prevention rather than cure.
Dr Paul Noone, consultant microbiologist at, the Royal. Free Hospital, North London,” said: "Hand washing' is, probably ably the single most important step to take. But nurses have to work under intense pressure because of the cuts. Where people are overworked, these hygiene measures tend to go. . The germ flourishes in hospitals because of the widespread use of antibiotics, which kill' competing bacteria and allow MRSA to, get a foothold.
. Experts have: blamed the indiscriminate use of antibiotics for the, emergence, of resistant. strains of bacteria, a phenomenon„ first noticed. In the 1950s when some types of infection that could no longer be treated" with penicillin were, identified.
There are a number of different strains of. Super Staph and all are vulnerable to treatment with vancomycin. Although other rarely used antibiotics can kill individual strains; treatment depends on rapid identification but doctors warn that all the remaining treatments are expensive and potentially toxic. They fear that if the bacteria also become resistant to vancomycm, medicine could be put back 50 years to the days when even minor infections could kill.
. Dr Ken Harvey, director of. Microbiology at the Royal Melbourne Hospital in Australia, where a particularly virulent strain of MRSA bacteria swept through the wards, said recently: 'We may, look back at the antibiotic era as just a passing. phase in the history of medicine, an era in which a great, natural resource was squandered and where the bugs proved smarter than the scientists
He is especially critical of 'doctors who constantly use broad-spectrum antibiotics an indiscriminate drug which kills a wide range of bugs in circumstances where they are unnecessary. " Broad spectrum, antibiotics are the refuge of the diagnostically 'destitute". he said.
The British Medical Journal is shortly to publish advice to GPs and hospitals on the best, way to control outbreaks of MRSA.
walkin last decade
I guess what I am going to have to do is finish the antibiotic and then go in for another swab to see what kind of bacteria it is we are dealing with and take it from there. I do not want to take penicillin for 6 months!! No one answered my question though~ Are homeopathic remedies effective while I am taking an antibiotic? and What can I take after I am done with the antibiotic?
zenmama last decade
The short answer to your question about the efficacy of Homeopathic Remedies when taken together with drugs is, YES they are effective.

I discovered this fact when I had surgery for my Prostate in 2002 when I used Arnica 30c every 2-3 hours post surgery to control the post surgical pain without using Morphine IV. I must record that the nursing staff and the surgeons had never before witnessed this 'experiment' and they did remark that the recovery of the 73 year old patient was quicker than otherwise without the Morphine which was disconnected from the IV line.

The reason I stated that you may have to be on Penicillin for a long period if Beta Haemolyticus Streptococcus (BHS) was isolated is because it is a very difficult bug to eradicate. This bacteria should not be confused with Staphylococcus Aureus which is more common and is usually found in the majority of throat infections.

My son was infected with BHS about 25 years ago and was constantly getting infected with a bad throat with every cold that he caught and when the doctors took a throat swab this bug was isolated with each bout of sore throat which he suffered from. He was then prescribed Penicillin which he took for about 6 months as the blood test which I believe was SGOT (Serum Globulin O Titre) showed that he was not able to be free of this bug during this period. Penicillin is not at all dangerous when used in this manner, according to the doctors who looked after him in Colombo and he recovered completely with this therapy.

Please remember that you should have this culture and ABS test done only when you next get your throat problem as it will show negative when you are on an antibiotic today.

A remedy that I often use to prevent a sore throat coming on is Belladonna 30c and you can use it 3 times daily when you first get the symptoms of a sore throat. It is important that this is taken till the throat is stabilized and for a day after, as there is a tendency for the bug to start up again if treatment is stopped as soon as the irritation subsides which it usually does in 2 days.
Joe De Livera last decade

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