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Can one dilute cell salts?

I know "dilute" is not the right word, but I don't know what is!

I would like to take biochemic (?) cell salts to help increase calcium absorption.

I haven't eaten table sugar in 2.5 yrs and I find the pellets are too sweet for me. I do take homeopathics when I need them, but I think the bioplasma stuff you take every day, right?

SO: Can I put it in water and take a little of the water like I might do w/ a regular homeopathic remedy?

Thanks!!
Rebecca
 
  Rebecca on 2005-08-06
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hello Rebecca,
You are going to take "material" doses of salts, like 3x or 6x, right?
Then you will have two forms of it:
1.material
2. dynamkized (like in homeopathy)

When you put the pills in water - shake it and take a sip - you will have a full dynamized dose of the salts however you will only have a fraction of their materal dose.
 
Astra2012 last decade
REBECCA :
By CELL SALT, You would be meaning Dr. Schussler's Bio-Chemic 12 Tissue Salt remedies, which is a consitituent of the Human body itself. This Tissue salts are prepared by using a method called Trituration, simply because they cannot be diluted or are not dilute'able.

Tissue salt remedies cannot be dynamised, (as made out by ASTRA2012). In the same light, Homoeopathic potencised remedies cannot be Triturated and cannot be therapeutically used as or in place of Triturated remedies. Certain unsoluable non-tissue-salt remedies are first triturated and then potencised (diluted). But till potencised they remain triturated NON-TISSUE-SALT n NON_BIO-CHEMIC remedies.

1. Bio-Chemic Tissue Salt remedies cannot be diluted. Though some commercial pharma companies claim to do so, which is totally a farce / fraud, with nil therapeutic value / action.
2. The actual sugar content in the Bio-Chemic tablets is approx. one percent of the original table sugar, and is 1000% safer to take, even by a severe diabetic patient.
3. You can take 100 ml hot water and dissolve (not dilute) the Bio-Chemic Tissue salt remedies, and sip one tea-spoon content every 5-10 seconds, while retaining the content on the tongue for 1-2 seconds (for optimum therapeutic absorption - due to dilation of the tongue receptors).
4. For optimum Calcium absorption, the following formula is most suitable : Silicea-12X + Cal.Phos-3X + Ferr.Phos-2X or 3X. Four tablets (or equivalent powder) of each, totalling 12 tablets is equal to one dose. Take such dose every fifth hour. For a long time - for many months. You start feeling more energetic within a month itself. Most safe, when in comparision to taking Calcium Carbonate tablets (allopathic formulation).

For a better understanding, of the above, you may consider reading the following posting "http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/29781/ "

Keep Smiling ... HA21
 
HA21 last decade
HA21
Where are you getting your info from?

If you put any homogenized material in water and succusse it you will get the dynamized form. ALWAYS.

THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE DYNAMIZED FORM.



And since the tablets also contain material form-when you disolve it in water OF COURSE you dilute it. There is no doubt about that!

And you said:
Bio-Chemic Tissue Salt remedies cannot be diluted.

Of course they can- LIKE ANY OTHER COMPUND!
 
Astra2012 last decade
ASTRA2012 :
The information is compiled in a book by Dr. Schussler called ABGEKURZTE THERAPIE, in 1873. The book is in german language. However, you may also consider reading the same translation in English by Dr. William Boericke, in any of the books describing 12 Tissue Salt remedies.

Dr. Schussler's Bio-Chemic 12 Tissue Salt (inorganic), are not homogenized material. They are prepared ONLY n ONLY by trituration method (sub-division of the molecular structure of the salt)

1. Tissue Salts are not and can never be successed / dynamized / potencised. They are prepared using a method called Triturated as briefly explained in "http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/29781/ "
2. Nat.Phos-6X does not give the same therapeutic value, as Nat.Phos-6C or 12C or 30C or ..., could possibly give. Both work on individual platforms, even when used simulta'neously.
3. If at all you dilute the Tissue Salts, they are called potencised medicines and not triturated bio-chemic tissue salt medicines. Repeat : They do not remain Tissue Salt remedies.
4. You may triturate the tissue salts to any level from 1X to literally nX. They do not become potencised.
5. Bio-chemic tissue salt remedies do not work on simillimum, as homoeopathic remedies do.
6. Bio-Chemic tissue salts remedies work on the laws of physiological chemistry.

Please repeatedly re-read the above mentioned posting, to get a better understanding what is BIO-CHEMIC TISSUE SALTS (triturated remedies) and what is HOMOGENIZED MATERIAL (potencised remedies)

ASTRA2012 : As you have conveniently made out that Bio-Chemic Tissue Salts remedies can be diluted, that's another misleading illusion, which many pharma companies are trying to get by. I hope you are not mistaking dissolve'ation over dilution or are you mistaking dilution over dissolve'ation. Let me know.

Keep Smiling ... HA21
 
HA21 last decade
No - I know the difference between dissolving and diluting- I'm a scientists and had in college a lot of chemistry.
If dr Schuessler says that they can't be diluted and you only repeat after him then he is wrong. If you dissolve anything in any solvent there is no problem in diluting it. Any chemist will tell you that.
(by homogenized I meant only "made homogenous" = mixed well--by whatever method)


I'd better paste your post:

1. Tissue Salts are not and can never be successed / dynamized / potencised.

Why? Any material can be potentized=made into a dynamic form. Why not tissue salts?



2. Nat.Phos-6X does not give the same therapeutic value, as Nat.Phos-6C or 12C or 30C or ..., could possibly give. Both work on individual platforms, even when used simulta'neously.

It is not the same theerapeutic value, right. I never said it was.The principles of selecting are different- I'd say homeopathy is more precise and tissue salts have broader range of action.
About the mode/plane of action--nobody knows how homeopathy/tissue salts act.
Esp. Schuessler so long ago when quantum physics-the only science that may shed a light on it-was not yet born.His reference is kind of old.

Tissue salts are not just a supplements!

3. If at all you dilute the Tissue Salts, they are called potencised medicines and not triturated bio-chemic tissue salt medicines. Repeat : They do not remain Tissue Salt remedies.

Who cares what they are as long as they work.


4. You may triturate the tissue salts to any level from 1X to literally nX. They do not become potencised.

??? Where do I discuss that?

5. Bio-chemic tissue salt remedies do not work on simillimum, as homoeopathic remedies do.

no kidding.

6. Bio-Chemic tissue salts remedies work on the laws of physiological chemistry.

Again Schuessler from 1873?
I guess he meant biochemistry.

We are not discussing that here-and I'm not 100% sure about validity of this statement.Are YOU sure? How come? Any reerach of tissue salts action that I don't know?
 
Astra2012 last decade
ASTRA2012 : Having elemental knowledge of chemistry n biology in college, does not make one a scientist (apart from a self-proclamied scientist) and neither that would make him professionally aware of laws of physiological chemistry concerning the pharma. lab. preparations.

1. A person would practice Bio-Chem remedies and Homoeopathic remedies, based on the research / knowledge of the founder / father of that field / spectrum / sphere. Prescriptions are always based with reference to works done by homoeo fathers like Schuessler n Hahnemann n others.

"About the mode/plane of action--nobody knows how homeopathy/tissue salts act."
2. If you do not know how Homoeopathy or tissue salts act, would it mean that the rest of the world also does not know how the homoeo remedies work. Quantum science existed well before Schuessler n Hahnemann and the present homoeopathic / tissue salts are the result of the same, besides of course the vaccinations, the astronomy, the astrology, the arithmetics of existing matter today among others.

It is an psychological trend : Children, after they grow up, call their father a fool n lose respect, since they feel that they know everything, they aggressively taunt by telling their fathers "You don't know anything". Such children also confidentally feel that they know everything.

Keep Smiling ... HA21
 
HA21 last decade
THank you HA21 and Astra.
An interesting discussion!

I never did quite understand, tho... I'm just trying to find the way to get cell salts in me that involves the least time with sweetness in my mouth. Its not that I'm afraid of the sugar, I just really dislike the sweetness.

"3. You can take 100 ml hot water and dissolve (not dilute) the Bio-Chemic Tissue salt remedies, and sip one tea-spoon content every 5-10 seconds, while retaining the content on the tongue for 1-2 seconds (for optimum therapeutic absorption - due to dilation of the tongue receptors)."

I would repeat this for how long?

"4. For optimum Calcium absorption, the following formula is most suitable : Silicea-12X + Cal.Phos-3X + Ferr.Phos-2X or 3X. Four tablets (or equivalent powder) of each, totalling 12 tablets is equal to one dose. Take such dose every fifth hour. For a long time - for many months."

Are these cell salts or (regular) homeopathics?

Thanks alot!
Rebecca
 
Rebecca last decade
I am not endorsing this formula, in fact I see it for the first time and statements like " due to dilation of the tongue receptors"
" are ridiculous imo. I am just answering your questions.)

I believe "3 tells you how to prepare and take a dose in water.
"4 tells you which TISSUE SALTS should be used.
both "s refer to the same treatment which can be applied few x a day for months.

Rebecca- calcium requires magnesium for absorption (this is from allopathic science). So if you decide to get supplements get cal-mag.

Also bioavailability depends on how well a compound ia water soluble--chelated calcium or calcium salts with organic acids are better bet than, say, calcium carbonate.

And the best bet: getting it in your food.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Astra-

Thanks alot! What are calcium salts with organic acids?

I take microcrystaline hydroxyapetite, unless I am out and broke in which case I will take calcium citrate (but not carbonate).

Thanks!
Rebecca
 
Rebecca last decade
Calcium citrate is just an example of calcium salt with organic acid (citric acid). It is better absorbed by the body than calcium carbonate- which actually is not very well soluble in water (and I have no idea why do they keep it in stores-maybe because it is cheapest and people buy it anyway believing they supplement their body with calcium).

(this doesn't concern calcarea carbonica which is homeopathic calcium carbonate and works on different plane; also this isn't about tissue salts which are in soluble amounts)
 
Astra2012 last decade

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