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Ignatia 10m - good or bad reaction? Please help.

Hi, I have been seeing a well-respected homeopath in my area. Yesterday she gave me Ignatia 10m to take three times, 12 hours apart. I have taken two doses and I spent today feeling awful - like I had a lead balloon of despair in my stomach and I couldn't wait to get home from work so I could cry - and I REALLY cried hard for ages, like I haven't done in a long time.

Is this an expected reaction? Do I take the third dose tonight?

Any thoughts on this would be really appreciated.

Thanks,
Lucy
 
  Loobyloo35 on 2012-06-22
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
You are having an aggravation from
the 10m. The rule is when you have
a reaction stop taking the remedy bc
it is working. That goes for suddenly feeling good or bad.

10m is a very high dose that can work
for months. I would certainly not take
another dose and let what I have taken
work and see how it goes. On aggravations they can last a few days
and then usually you feel much better
mentally first.

One of my friends was told to take
Ignatia 200c 3 times- after the first
dose, she had a reaction like yours
and it went on for a week. Then she felt better and does not need another
dose yet, and it has been 2 months.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Hi Simone, many thanks for your reply, much appreciated. So I should not take the third dose and wait and see what happens? I am worried that if I don't take all the doses as instructed that I will spoil it's action.

Thanks,
Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
No, it is already acting, taking more
would be overdosing. Everyone's body
is different and reacts different.

For instance some parents had some
bottle of spongia that said take 3 tabs
4x a day. They gave 3 tabs to their sick
child, who suddenly became better in
15 minutes. But thinking they should
follow directions, they gave child another
dose- the child went back to being sick
and it took 6 hours for that extra dose
to wear off and child was well again.

On yourself, the remedy is acting and
if you took more you would feel
even more reactions, which is not needed. You see what this does for
a couple weeks at least.If you feel
better, which is how it should work ,
then you don't take anything until you
feel you went backward, and even then
you might need a lower dose than a
10M, which is why homeopaths look at
your entire state again! to see what
should be given next, potency, etc.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Thanks Simone, I will hold off on the third dose.

Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
3 doses of 10M so close together was way too much. I have no idea why she would overdose you like that. Make sure you tell her that you had this reaction and tat you could not take the third dose.

There is no standardized dosing in homoeopathy. It is all individualised so it only matters that you get enough, not that you get a certain amount.
 
brisbanehomoeopath 9 years ago
dear simon good advice u have given.
can one take 200C dose for long time until he see improvement or aggravation? I am confused please advice.
 
xiang 9 years ago
I think not. If you read this forum and prescriptions,
you can see that Kadwa , usually gives a 200c in
the morning, evening and then next morning - then you
wait for 15 days to see any aggravation or improvement.

If there is nothing at all, I think it is the wrong remedy.

I think Brisbane is a better person to ask and maybe
he will read this and say something. :-)
 
simone717 9 years ago
Some patients might require daily dosing of 200c. I have RARELY seen patients that need this, but when they need it they need it. I remember seeing one of our senior lecturers give a case of Stramonium where he gave 200c daily for 3 weeks. The class was shocked - up until then we though minimum dose meant single or small groups of doses. He reminded us that dosage is individual, and must be tailored to what the patient needs. I have probably seen 2-3 patients in 20 years who needed daily dosing of 200c, so I think it is quite rare.
 
brisbanehomoeopath 9 years ago

[message deleted by simone717 on Sat, 23 Jun 2012 23:37:01 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago
Prior to being given the three doses of 10M, I had been told to take Ignatia 200c daily for a fortnight. I had no improvement from this, which is why she gave me the 10M. After the Ignatia 10M I was to start Nat Mur 200c.

I don't know what to do now :-(
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
You wait for the improvements to start, and then return to the homoeopath when she scheduled you see her again.

I do think she is pretty gung-ho with her dosing though. She really should have gone to 1M not 10M, and she should have only given one dose to see how you react.
 
brisbanehomoeopath 9 years ago
Many thanks for your reply.

So I shouldn't take the Nat Mur 200c?

Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
What? She gave you another remedy to take without assessing what the Ignatia has done?

Well, that is a different matter altogether. Despite her being 'well-respected' she is clearly careless, and either does not know homoeopathic guidelines properly or doesn't care enough about her patients to apply them.

Did she even warn you about aggravation?

You need to find another homoeopath. This one is too dangerous to go back to. I do not like the sound of how she practices.

David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
 
brisbanehomoeopath 9 years ago
Oh dear, now I'm worried that I have been done irrepairable damage?

I have left a message with my homeopath telling her of my reaction after the second dose of Ignatia 10M, and in the meantime I'll hold off taking the Nat Mur and see what happens.

Many thanks for your help on this.

Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
No, you have not done irreparable
damage. You just let the Ignatia wear off-
and go see another person. I know you
are in Scotland-if you tell me where I
will look around for you. This homeopath
is giving you some pre set formula she
has in her head and is not prescribing on
what you are reacting to or not reacting
to which is how real homeopathy is done.

Also if you have any massage people near
you doing acupressure massage (
ask any acupuncturist if they know a person) that type massage will clear
much of this out of your system in
a hour.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Thanks Simone - I know a great shiatsu therapist so I could get an appointment with her.

I am feeling a good deal better today after my 'crisis' yesterday, but I am still reluctant to take any further remedies.

I am in Edinburgh - if you know of any good homeopaths in this area I'd be very grateful for the information.

Best wishes,
Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
That is great- Shiatsu is the best for
clearing stuff out. Many homeopaths say you cannot get deep massage etc while
on remedy at start bc it clears out the
remedy. I had my daughter get too high
of nat mur, and we have shiatsu here and
she was back to normal when the massage was done.

Don't take anymore of anything. You might want to hold off on massage and
see what goes on next.I will look around
for you today.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Are you by any chance going to one of
these people?

Rachel Murphy - homeopath Edinburgh

Elizabeth Biagi-classical homeopath-
Edinburgh

Mary De Maine Beaumont- homeopath-
but no web site
 
simone717 9 years ago
No, but I have been to see Elizabeth Biaggi in the past, she tried me with several remedies that I never understood as I didn't think they fitted my symptom picture at all. I haven't heard if the others - I will check them out - thank you!

Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
Hi Simone,

Rachel Murphy lives and practices just a couple of blocks away from me! Thanks for your help.

Lucy
 
Loobyloo35 9 years ago
Hi- wish you the very best here in
your health and happiness!!

Regards,
Simone717
 
simone717 9 years ago

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