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Difference between 30C and 200 C
Hi there. I have two question about homeopathy in general.What is the difference between 30C potency and 200C potency? I know what the physical or should i better say energetic difference is but what is their difference is usage?
Is it the more chronic the condition the higher the potency or something else?
Also, a question about the effectivness of Homeopathic remedies. After how many days can a person say, THIS REMEDY HAS NO EFFECT ON ME, and than try another remedy to see if it is a better fit?
McDougal on 2012-07-06
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There is no hard & fast rule about the number of days to decide about effect of remedy & how often a remedy is to be repeated. It varies from remedy to remedy, patient to patient AND region to region. Generally, homeopathic remedies are classified into three categories. (Don't know the exact terms in english):
1- Short term effecting remedies (normally used in epidemics etc like Aconite, belladonna, Allium Cepa etc) Can be repeated frequently but these can also prove very quickly so supervision of an experienced person is recommended.
2- Longterm effecting remedies but not strong enough to uproot chronic & hereditary ailments alone. Although in most of the cases, these can alone handle quite complex situations (like Arnica, & other remedies made from vegetables & few minerals also etc). Should not be repeated very frequently.
3- Longterm effecting & strongest remedies. (These are the deepest effecting & have effect on each & every tissue/cell of the body. Examples are Nosode). MUST NOT repeat very often as could have horrible proving effects which can turn you life hell & further, proving effects are very difficult or almost impossible to undo as these remedies can even change the tiniest composition of your body.
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1- Short term effecting remedies (normally used in epidemics etc like Aconite, belladonna, Allium Cepa etc) Can be repeated frequently but these can also prove very quickly so supervision of an experienced person is recommended.
2- Longterm effecting remedies but not strong enough to uproot chronic & hereditary ailments alone. Although in most of the cases, these can alone handle quite complex situations (like Arnica, & other remedies made from vegetables & few minerals also etc). Should not be repeated very frequently.
3- Longterm effecting & strongest remedies. (These are the deepest effecting & have effect on each & every tissue/cell of the body. Examples are Nosode). MUST NOT repeat very often as could have horrible proving effects which can turn you life hell & further, proving effects are very difficult or almost impossible to undo as these remedies can even change the tiniest composition of your body.
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♡ AsadGhumman last decade
Thanks for the fast reply :)
I am asking this because maybe a month ago i took Nux Vomica 200C, i took 3 doses and waited, but not much has happened.
I am now planning to take Lycopodium but am not sure which dose i should take. More of the lower dose, or less of the higher dose.
I am asking this because maybe a month ago i took Nux Vomica 200C, i took 3 doses and waited, but not much has happened.
I am now planning to take Lycopodium but am not sure which dose i should take. More of the lower dose, or less of the higher dose.
McDougal last decade
I guess that came out wrong.
What i wanted to say is-i know that usually 200C is taken only one time in 2-3 doses, while 30C could be taken in more doses and more consecutive days to see if it has effect.
What i wanted to say is-i know that usually 200C is taken only one time in 2-3 doses, while 30C could be taken in more doses and more consecutive days to see if it has effect.
McDougal last decade
McDougal
You might want to start with the lower potency. For a start, you can try a few doses(3 to 6 doses) in 30c.
You might want to start with the lower potency. For a start, you can try a few doses(3 to 6 doses) in 30c.
♡ maheeru last decade
Thank you.
I was thinking about something like that. Could you please be more precise?
When you say 3-6 doses,lets say i will take 6.
That's 3 doses on one day and 3 doses on second day, correct?
1 dose is 3 pellets?
I was thinking about something like that. Could you please be more precise?
When you say 3-6 doses,lets say i will take 6.
That's 3 doses on one day and 3 doses on second day, correct?
1 dose is 3 pellets?
McDougal last decade
McDougal
If you want precise directions, then try 2 pellets, two times a day for 3 days. This would be a nice regimen. (If you want to do it three times a day, for two days, then it's also fine.) Lycopodium is a deep acting remedy. So wait for a couple of weeks at least, to judge the action.
If you want precise directions, then try 2 pellets, two times a day for 3 days. This would be a nice regimen. (If you want to do it three times a day, for two days, then it's also fine.) Lycopodium is a deep acting remedy. So wait for a couple of weeks at least, to judge the action.
♡ maheeru last decade
That is what i wished to know.
Would you by any chance be willing to go through my case and tell me if i seem like a Lycopodium to you?
Would you by any chance be willing to go through my case and tell me if i seem like a Lycopodium to you?
McDougal last decade
You know what, i already decided to take Lycopodium so there is no point in me bothering you with my case.
I do have one additional question though. How long before-after the course of Lyco am i allowed to take herbs? I am talking about spices, possibly some herbal or fruit teas, things like that?
I do have one additional question though. How long before-after the course of Lyco am i allowed to take herbs? I am talking about spices, possibly some herbal or fruit teas, things like that?
McDougal last decade
'How long before-after the course of Lyco am i allowed to take herbs?'
If you are intending to do this for some detox. like course, then you are better off giving a good time interval in terms of weeks. There's no hard and fast rule about the time interval though. Just make sure to allow sufficient time to understand what does what. A few weeks(say 4 to 6) would be fine.
You need not make drastic changes in your diet though. You can continue your regular diet during this period even if it involves spices/herbs.
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If you are intending to do this for some detox. like course, then you are better off giving a good time interval in terms of weeks. There's no hard and fast rule about the time interval though. Just make sure to allow sufficient time to understand what does what. A few weeks(say 4 to 6) would be fine.
You need not make drastic changes in your diet though. You can continue your regular diet during this period even if it involves spices/herbs.
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♡ maheeru last decade
No, i didn't plan on doing any detox, i was just asking about a herbal tea here and there, like chamomile or thyme..
I do have to ask you something. I wanted to try if marijuana could have any medical affect on me, i am 25 years old and this was the first time i used it. I tried it a couple of times but no changes in my health. I won't be using it anymore because i was only interested in its medical benefits which i unfortunately didn't feel.
So yeah, the question is, how long after taking medical marijuana am i allowed to take Lyco?
P.S. Thank you very much for your answers. I really appreciate it!
I do have to ask you something. I wanted to try if marijuana could have any medical affect on me, i am 25 years old and this was the first time i used it. I tried it a couple of times but no changes in my health. I won't be using it anymore because i was only interested in its medical benefits which i unfortunately didn't feel.
So yeah, the question is, how long after taking medical marijuana am i allowed to take Lyco?
P.S. Thank you very much for your answers. I really appreciate it!
McDougal last decade
McDougal
Peppermint, camphor, eucalyptus, rosemary, thyme and lavender - all have the ability to antidote homeopathic remedies. So you can avoid them taking in the close proximity of the homeopathic remedies.
And chamomile(in homeopathic form) specifically antidotes Lyc. . so this can also be avoided.
These should be avoided on the day of Lyc. and also for some days thereafter. Say for a week or two would suffice.
Marijuana:
I have made a post on this topic a long while ago. Please read about that on the below link: http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/95802/
I think you are right in not continuing this substance. Leave 2 to 3 weeks after the consumption of this substance before you try homeopathic remedy for chronic ailments. Acutes don't need to be waited for.
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Peppermint, camphor, eucalyptus, rosemary, thyme and lavender - all have the ability to antidote homeopathic remedies. So you can avoid them taking in the close proximity of the homeopathic remedies.
And chamomile(in homeopathic form) specifically antidotes Lyc. . so this can also be avoided.
These should be avoided on the day of Lyc. and also for some days thereafter. Say for a week or two would suffice.
Marijuana:
I have made a post on this topic a long while ago. Please read about that on the below link: http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/95802/
I think you are right in not continuing this substance. Leave 2 to 3 weeks after the consumption of this substance before you try homeopathic remedy for chronic ailments. Acutes don't need to be waited for.
[message edited by maheeru on Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:53:58 BST]
♡ maheeru last decade
To be honest, all that marijuana did to me is make me feel stupid and slow, i didn't find anything enjoyable in it and also it didn't help me in medicinal way.
I am just a bit demotivated with you saying i have to wait 2-3 weeks before i try Lyco.. I indeed have a chronic illness that is lasting for 7 years now and has numerous symptoms..
I so wish to get well, i pray for it everyday, every moment but it just seems to be getting worse and worse. The last symptom that filled the glass was the fact that my teeth lost their color, their tips are translucent and the whiteness is there no more, they are now yellow and all of this is happening probably because i have a distinct feel of acid fumes coming in my mouth.
Also i have a very sour taste in the morning, putrid, like i chewed ash..
I have very bad digestion, stools are floating on water, undigested food in stools, also some redness around my nose, purple circles around my eyes..
I tried Nux Vomica but it failed, now i want to try with Lyco..
I know that Lyco isn't a remedy that should be repeated, but must i really wait 2 weeks before i take it?
As far as other teas/strong flavors go i won't be taking them on the days i take lyco nor after. I don't brush my teeth with toothpastes, i use some natural powder or Himalayan rock salt dissolved in water (sole).
I am just a bit demotivated with you saying i have to wait 2-3 weeks before i try Lyco.. I indeed have a chronic illness that is lasting for 7 years now and has numerous symptoms..
I so wish to get well, i pray for it everyday, every moment but it just seems to be getting worse and worse. The last symptom that filled the glass was the fact that my teeth lost their color, their tips are translucent and the whiteness is there no more, they are now yellow and all of this is happening probably because i have a distinct feel of acid fumes coming in my mouth.
Also i have a very sour taste in the morning, putrid, like i chewed ash..
I have very bad digestion, stools are floating on water, undigested food in stools, also some redness around my nose, purple circles around my eyes..
I tried Nux Vomica but it failed, now i want to try with Lyco..
I know that Lyco isn't a remedy that should be repeated, but must i really wait 2 weeks before i take it?
As far as other teas/strong flavors go i won't be taking them on the days i take lyco nor after. I don't brush my teeth with toothpastes, i use some natural powder or Himalayan rock salt dissolved in water (sole).
McDougal last decade
A week later from the consumption of marijuana, you can go ahead with Lyco. doses.
Give sufficient time for this remedy in different potencies before you would like to change the remedy.
Give sufficient time for this remedy in different potencies before you would like to change the remedy.
♡ maheeru last decade
Thanks.
My plan is to start with 30C, as we agreed. 3 days, 2 doses daily consisting of 2 pellets per dose.
After two weeks if there are improvements but are not complete, i would probably use 200c but that it a long time, no need to think about it now.
I do however have one more question.
How does Homeopathy look at acupuncture? Whether micro or macro acupuncture?
It is also energy medicine but works in a totally different way. Do Homeopathy and Acupuncture compliment each other or should one avoid to use both healing techniques in the same time?
My plan is to start with 30C, as we agreed. 3 days, 2 doses daily consisting of 2 pellets per dose.
After two weeks if there are improvements but are not complete, i would probably use 200c but that it a long time, no need to think about it now.
I do however have one more question.
How does Homeopathy look at acupuncture? Whether micro or macro acupuncture?
It is also energy medicine but works in a totally different way. Do Homeopathy and Acupuncture compliment each other or should one avoid to use both healing techniques in the same time?
McDougal last decade
Once you get to see improvement with one modality(say homeopathy), combining another modality(acupuncture) will be an easy task and you can easily distinguish between the results. Do not start them at the same time.
♡ maheeru last decade
I am going to use this opportunity and ask one additional question while the whole thing is still ''fresh'' :)
Lycopodium clavatum is the latin name of a herb. Now i saw that i indeed have this herb (tea preparation).
I never actually tried it before, but am curious..
How does Homeopathy look at taking herbal teas from a herb that is used to create remedies?
I realize that teas can't be made from zinc or mercury, so the only possibility are those remedies which come from herbs.
Is it contra indicated to drink herbal teas before/during/after taking a Homeopathic remedy that was made from that very herb?
Lycopodium clavatum is the latin name of a herb. Now i saw that i indeed have this herb (tea preparation).
I never actually tried it before, but am curious..
How does Homeopathy look at taking herbal teas from a herb that is used to create remedies?
I realize that teas can't be made from zinc or mercury, so the only possibility are those remedies which come from herbs.
Is it contra indicated to drink herbal teas before/during/after taking a Homeopathic remedy that was made from that very herb?
McDougal last decade
You may take it at a different time, but it's not advisable to take material doses(say like tea of a herb) and homeopathic potency(of the same herb) at the same time. They are likely to interact. Except in special circumstances this may be avoided.
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♡ maheeru last decade
I finished my course of Lyc. today.
So far i need to report that not much has changed. On the first day one of the most prominent symptoms (post nasal drip of phlegm) seemed to reduce dramatically, i actually got a sense of how it would feel if i was healthy.
Unfortunately by the end of the day it got back to normal and possibly a bit worst on the next but nothing that would classify as the healing crisis.
From than on everything is normally abnormal.
At Maheeru, in your opinion, after how many days should i start to feel improvements with Lyco. I know we talked about it acting slow, but what does that mean? Do the symptoms improve slowly day by day, or does one feel no improvement for many days and than BOOM, out of the blue a major improvement in health? :)
So far i need to report that not much has changed. On the first day one of the most prominent symptoms (post nasal drip of phlegm) seemed to reduce dramatically, i actually got a sense of how it would feel if i was healthy.
Unfortunately by the end of the day it got back to normal and possibly a bit worst on the next but nothing that would classify as the healing crisis.
From than on everything is normally abnormal.
At Maheeru, in your opinion, after how many days should i start to feel improvements with Lyco. I know we talked about it acting slow, but what does that mean? Do the symptoms improve slowly day by day, or does one feel no improvement for many days and than BOOM, out of the blue a major improvement in health? :)
McDougal last decade
McDougal
That does not seem to be an ideal response. However i'd advice you to be patient and give sufficient time to let the doses act. I'd even say that after giving time, please also try Lyc. in 200c.
'From than on everything is normally abnormal. ' Are you feeling worse ? How about mood, energy levels, sleep, and emotional state?
NO the improvement does not happen BOOM one fine day, usually the improvements happen slowly(subtly sometimes) and insidiously. Acutes show the faster results.
That does not seem to be an ideal response. However i'd advice you to be patient and give sufficient time to let the doses act. I'd even say that after giving time, please also try Lyc. in 200c.
'From than on everything is normally abnormal. ' Are you feeling worse ? How about mood, energy levels, sleep, and emotional state?
NO the improvement does not happen BOOM one fine day, usually the improvements happen slowly(subtly sometimes) and insidiously. Acutes show the faster results.
♡ maheeru last decade
This being a week from the start-i feel no different what so ever, no worse, no better...
Same as with any remedy i took before and that includes Nux Vomica, Sulphur and every cell salt (took nat phos and calc phos the longest but never any real changes)
Than i start to wonder, did they even give me a homeopathic remedy or just empty pellets, one can't ever really know...
How long do i have to wait in order to start with material medicine again?
I bought some medical clay which supposedly does wonder for the digestive system and is an extreme intensive detoxifier...
Why not give it a try alongside acupuncture... Just not sure after how long it would be safe to start since this obviously won't have any effect.
Same as with any remedy i took before and that includes Nux Vomica, Sulphur and every cell salt (took nat phos and calc phos the longest but never any real changes)
Than i start to wonder, did they even give me a homeopathic remedy or just empty pellets, one can't ever really know...
How long do i have to wait in order to start with material medicine again?
I bought some medical clay which supposedly does wonder for the digestive system and is an extreme intensive detoxifier...
Why not give it a try alongside acupuncture... Just not sure after how long it would be safe to start since this obviously won't have any effect.
McDougal last decade
'Than i start to wonder, did they even give me a homeopathic remedy or just empty pellets, one can't ever really know...'
If you are not satisfied with the current lot, you can get medicines from branded companies like schwabe, boiron etc.
Since you need help at this point, i'd advise you to take that medical clay and to include acupuncture too. If really help is needed, then we need not wait for the ideal waiting periods.
And a couple of weeks later try Lyc. 200c and see if it benefits you.
If you are not satisfied with the current lot, you can get medicines from branded companies like schwabe, boiron etc.
Since you need help at this point, i'd advise you to take that medical clay and to include acupuncture too. If really help is needed, then we need not wait for the ideal waiting periods.
And a couple of weeks later try Lyc. 200c and see if it benefits you.
♡ maheeru last decade
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