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Dermographism? Is there such a thing?

I am male. 25 Years old. Irish. Living in Ireland. At 18 I realized whenever I went to bed, I started to scratch my legs and upper body until I fell asleep. Everynight.

One night I got up and went to the restroom. I was bleeding all over from my own nails. My skin was all welted. I looked like I'd been scourged, like the Christ.

Ever since I've had this!! It is not as severe now. If I mark my skin with a fingernail or back of a key, i can actually write on my skin.. legs arms, body.. face.. why?

I was told i'm allergic to sugar. But not which type (bananas.. cane etc). I don't believe this as the doctor also said i'm allergic to cats. I've never had a reaction to cats in the past and had two cats live with me for six months one time and never noticed as discomfort.

Anyways, i'm not affected by it besides. At least not in a way i'm aware of. I just want to know where it comes from?

The only association I can make to it is (this sounds lalala) is changes in temperature. I always know when a storm is brewing. I am extremely sensitive to changes in room temperature.

Anyways, I just wanna know what the hell it is. I've had liver function failure tests? One doctor said 'you may have had a variant of Jaundice and gotten over it... it may have been 6 months ago' - He said that five years ago. I'm still the same. Not one doctor has been able to tell me they've seen it before or what it is! The closest thing I've seen to it is 'dermographism' or skin writing... blah..

thanks for reading and any response you can relay... boo boo
 
  boo boo on 2005-09-01
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Yes, there is such thing as dermographism because I found out today that I have it. I suggest you go to the doctor and get medicine for it as I did.
 
volcanogirl last decade
Hi Boo BOO, sensetive to temperature changes is a trait of Murcurius, look it up and see if the rest of you fit the characteristics.
With homeopthy we don't tend to focus on one symptom but add up all of them to come to a remedy.
Best Luck.
 
parachute last decade
Boo, dermographism is real, and you're not crazy. I've had it for a little over 2 years, but have read posts online from people who have had it for over 20 years (sorry, don't mean to discourage you). I've tried to research this on the internet, and have not been able to get many solid answers. No one seems to agree on what causes it, how to treat it, or what causes it to go away. I have been taking one Zyrtec every day and this seems to control the itching. I still gets red marks on my skin from the slightest touch, or brush of my fingers, and sometimes don't know they're there until someone asks me what happened. I have to do more research, or perhaps try a naturopath or alternative doctor. I have heard of people controling it by not eating sugars, or trying a candida diet, but I don't know if these work. I don't like the idea of taking a pill every day for the next 20 years, but have found no other way to make my life bearable. Skincareworld (website) has a good message board you can check out.

Good luck!
 
zuzu37 last decade
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deoshlok last decade
Thank you to those of you who replied to my post.
I want to fulfil the 15 questions that were set out by 'deoshlok'
1. Booboo
2. 25
3. Male
4. Ireland
5. Mild, damp moderate
6. First symptoms at age 18. Very sensitive then for two years. Recently it's more tolerable. It's like a party trick for friends to show I can write their name on my forearm or chest etc. Though like someone else said in a reply sometimes I touch my face or arms without knowing and show a welt and don't realize til I see someone stare at me. So if I touch my skin the welt or scar will appear within a minute and disappear usually within 5 minutes but can be longer.
7. I'm not taking any medicine
8. 'Slight back history'. I am not sure if there is a typo.. but if I take it literally, I damaged my back at 15 in a rear end collision. I still suffer with pain and discomfort in my neck, back, hips and jaw muscles. In terms of a background for medical treatment in my 18th year I did get about three severe bouts of Tonsilitis and was taking high dosage antibiotics then (which i understand may be related to dermographism - i can get specific drug name again upon request) Besides that I've never had any other illness besides common head cold or flu.
10. Family... well my Uncle apparantly has the same signs on my mothers side. Another uncle on her side also suffers with dermatitis... dandruff alot..
11. Qualification of patient? I work in an office and have travelled and worked in Ireland, the USA and Sweden over the past 7 years.
12. Usually office... HR
13. Vegetarian diet. I do eat dairy products. I personal feeling is that I eat too much carbs and sugars.. I'm naturally lean (was a high fashion model) I am not deficient in any nutrients I'm told.
14. hymmm.. i don't get angry. I'm very open minded. Patient. I don't mind public speaking. Currently work in sales!!... love and affection? I love but right now am not loved... boo hoo... haha.. I'm well balanced.
15. Aggravations for my skin are shopping aisles when I approach and walk through the 'cold sections' with the coolers and fridges... the calm before and storm... just before the tension in the air breaks, my skin feels like the blood is curdling in my veins at these moments... It's not so bad when it's cold and i'm cold or hot and I'm hot... it's only i notice it in sudden changes from one to the other... Finally there are just days it kills me with itch and i just don't know why? I still don't know why... I can never tell what I ate that was unusual or whether I'm in a new environment... it just happens to be aggravated sometimes for no reason.

I have a gut feeling and that is to stop eating carbs like bread especially... and sugar... it's just so hard to do so.

16... IF YOU WANT MY PHONE NUMBER AND BANK ACCOUNT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.... hhaaha..

Thanks .. booboo
 
boo boo last decade
Hi booboo

I have just been diagnosed with Dermagraphism. I can totally sympathise with you. I find the nights the worst. Was even tempted to ask my grandmother to knit me a pair of scratch mittens to stop me hurting myself. To finally know what it was that i was suffering with came as such a relief. I have only suffered with it since august last year. They think stress and antibiotics for recurrent ear infections brought it on. I also find the transition from cold to heat causes burning and severe itching. I can only describe it has having boiling water under the skin. I take antihistamines which i have had changed once and other meds added to help. I found aloe vera gel helps as it cools the skin also when the burning/itching starts i gently pat the skin rather than itch it it doesn't total help but it doesn't leave the unsightly marks which i find really embarrassing when i'm out. Apparently worrying can make it worse, once you get diagnosed this does stop some of that worry. Hope this is of any help.
 
Genners last decade
Hello Boo,

Your symptoms sound exactly like mine. I've had this condition since Aug. 05. I went to my doctor and he told me to take an antihistamine and then he sent me to an allergist. This allergist did some testing of 18 common alergens and I reacted to all of them. It turned out that I wasn't actually allergic to any it was the actual light presure on my skin. She figured out what it was - Dermographism but she couldn't help me except to say - Don't try to figure it out and take an antihistamine when needed. After a few more months of that I went to see a naturopath. I am now on a cleansing diet. The naturopath suspects Candida (an overabundance of yeast in my system). She believes hives are caused by the toxins the yeast gives off. Makes sense to me. She tells me that this cleansing diet is only temporary - until my system gets back to normal. But actually I'm finding I like it. The diet is no sugar, no yeast, no wheat, no caffiene and no alcohol. I feel good knowing that I'm making myself healthier and I really want this condition to go away. Usually something like this is your body trying to tell you something. In my case I was also having digestion problems. The diet has actually already been beneficial in this regard. In less than a week I go back to the naturopath. Yes I am still having the breakout of hives - in fact they are worse than ever - but they are supposed to go away after 4 to 8 days. The naturopath says this is to be expected because the yeast is being starved of sugar and all the other things it thrives on so as it is dying it is giving off more toxins then ever. And what cause me to get this condition? A year ago I was in the hospital after having a miscarriage. There I picked up a very bad respiratory infection. My doctor prescribed antibiotics which helped me get rid of the infection but also killed off any good bacteria. Good bacteria helps you digest your food and keeps the yeast levels normal. I will let you know next week if the hives go away. You may want to persue treatment from a Naturapathic, Homeopathic or Holistic Healer. I'm glad I did - it has not done me any harm to try. And it has made me more aware of the value of good food and how it can be used to heal a person. Take care.
 
Mintee last decade
I have had dermatographism for 2 years now. I first developed symptoms 4 weeks after taking an antibiotic (cephalosporin)for an EAR INFECTION. I have researched this for HOURS and HOURS. I did find one website that indicates that dermatographism can be caused by cephalosporins (there are many different names for this antibiotic..I took cefzil). My doctor refuses to believe this was caused by the antibiotic because I did not develop symptoms immediately. But, in a serum-like sickness, you can develop these symptoms weeks after taking the antibiotic. Anyway, I am convinced it was the antibiotic, because my doctor prescribed me another antibiotic that should not be taken by people allergic to cephalosporins, and I went into a full body rash (while taking my usual daily dose of zyrtec-which normally prevents ANY type of outbreak).

I am curious, how many people developed this after an ear infection or after taking a cephalosporin?
 
jillian last decade
HELLO! FOLKS FINALLY A SOLUTION FOR A ALLERGY THAT WILL BE WITH YOU FOR MORE THAN A DECADE..'NOW U CAN CURE IT YOUR SELF' HERE'S HOW...

After struggling for a cure for this particular and very peculiar skin allergy I consulted the best of the doctors for a remedy but the only answer I would get is,
we need to test your blood, urine, blah, blah, blah.
Then I consulted another skin specialist who said 'Lab test will cost you a lot of money let me prescribe you some medicine and lets see how good your situation will be;
cause we cannot cure this allergy in a day or two but if these medicines work then you will need to continue taking these pill for more than a couple of years'
which i did follow the advice for my benefit.
But the pills were of heavy dose and i would get a massive head ache for at least 6 hours from morning to noon these were the know side effects forget about the unknown ones but I still continued but no respite from the pills either, this was affecting my work too then one fine day I started browsing the internet for answers and I was shocked to see the fact especially help section on dermographism in this web site that there are a lot of people suffering from this chronic itch from 20 long years; for example and still looking forward to take pill. I don’t know when it will end for me that’s what I was thinking back of my mind until I saw a particular message that says
'causes for dermographism' There was a list of food items and medicines that can cause all this starting from antibiotic medicine for ear infection and pain killer like aspirin etc and foods like sugar, wheat, bread, alcohol, pickle, honey, fruits etc.. This shows that either your allergy is caused due to sugary food or sweets, sweets fruits, honey, chocolates; avoid them. Bread, alcohol, anything that is fermented cause it has yeast which is a good bacteria for humans but the antibodies in your body are either not resistant to them or they are dead. All milk products these also has lot of good bacteria that is good if consumed but your body is rejecting them and thus all the itch and allergy so try to avoid all these foods for a couple of days and eat anything apart from them like cooked rice but not fermented ones and avoid eating sugar right from morning in your coffee, tea, milk etc , then your breakfast could ideally be corn flakes and lunch could contain barley, corn, leafy vegetables etc. This is what I did finally I tried eating the one which i should not like wheat, bread, milk, one by one on a daily basic until I came till sugar yes this was the culprit for me. on a sunny afternoon after traveling for about 1 1/2 hour ride to remote place i was offered coke and I could not resist and within minutes I got the disgusting itch back on my body and I concluded the study as sugar is the main reason for the problem. Today I eat every thing except my medicines and sugar. yes you need to give up all these at least for some time else you will end up looking like a pink baboon which i was and u might be after itching all over your body. Take this advise as a second had experience if you are also allergic to sugar than don’t consume any for minimum 6 months and try again and the same for any other foods also and try not to take any medicine prescribed for dermographism by doing this you will be improving your natural immune system and back to normal. I know it is very easy to advise someone and difficult to follow but this procedure will not only help you to be independent away from allopathic medicine which is sometime too much is too bad and can lead to unknown side effects which any will cause another two or three side effects sounds like a chain reaction but this is the hard fact of today’s modern world and there's much to be done to educate people. If you look back to history and see how our ancestors were able to cope up with all these kind of diseases the answer is natural medicine which is 100% accurate and 100% no side effects but in fact they act as a good immune builder not as a destroyer which is what we have excepted in our modern day life which a busy and end up paying our hard earned money into the doctors pocket...
SO I wish you all the best and I am open for feed backs and you can mail me at ravisgoyal'at'gmail
ravi_s_goyal'at'rediffmail
 
robgoyal last decade
Hi,
I've tried cutting certain things out of my diet and it hasn't always worked. Either because i ended up consuming somethig that i took for granted contained sugar or just got fed up of depriving myself of foods i enjoy. The diet does tend to get a bit limited after you start cutting out the main culprits. I have found that certain things which i wouldn't expect to trigger dermogaphism, i can drink regular coke but diet coke sends me into an itching frenzy. So does sprite tho i can drink sugar free lemonade. Its so strange. But i have found since drink Pro-biotic Drinks or Yoghurts have helped. Its not so severe as it was and i haven't woken up itching half as often over the last coupkle of months, Just the odd once or twice when i haven't had a pro-biotic drink the previous day before going out on a night out.
I think with this complaint its a case of each person has to find what works from them, its just trial and error til you find something that helps.
 
Genners last decade
Hi since my last visit my dermographism has got alot worse than before. There are times when i could quite happily take my skin off and leave it off. When i'm lucky its just a red rash with just a mild itching that i try hard to ignore. When i'm unlucky its itches like nothing on this earth with a burning sensation that i cant help but scratch.I have had to swap and change my antihistamines around and add to them as i have become immune to them at one stage or another. My doctor has finally thought about sending me to a specialist wgich will be interesting if i ever get an appointment!
 
Genners last decade
Hi! I can understand how one feels when you cut down food that you’ve been eating until now but Dermographism is such a problem it will take 20 to 30 years until you are completely cured not to forget a bag full of side effects which you never expected.

But that’s the hard fact of modern day medication. All I tell you are cut down on SUGAR that’s the biggest culprit cause I have people who often reply thanking for the help and they too find sugar a problem creator. Try for at least one week and you will come to know

I know Christmas is around the corner and its hard to quit try it after New year as a resolution I’m sure it will make a difference and don’t take your regular pill prescribed by your physician until then and please let me about your condition. You can mail me at
Ravisgoyal AT gmail.com.
 
robgoyal last decade
Hi! I'm am so relived to find out that I'm not the only one out there with this skin disorder!
I never knew what it was until recently. It started right after my first child was born. I was 25. I thought is was due to hormonal changes but it never went away. I consulted my doctor who prescribed steroids to reduce the itching. It didn't work for me. Another doctor said the only thing for me were antihistamines which I try to stay away from. It's been six years since the itching started. I remember it started with my feet. The itching wouldn't stop and the only thing that would bring temporary relief was to soak my feet in very hot water. Then it started to spread all over my body. I try not to scratch for as long as I can but the itching is very intense. I have a one year old girl and she likes to play with my face. I can feel the swelling in my face as soon as she touches it. People notice it all the time and it's very emberressing. I just say 'it's an allegy'. My mother mentioned that she suffered from it when she as in her 20's but only lasted briefly. I wish it would go away. I've had enough of this itching all the time. Thanks for taking the time to read this. It makes me feel better to know that there are people out there who understand what I'm going through.
 
yoli326 last decade
Hi, I would like to know how many of you use artificial sweeteners or use 'diet' drinks? because there is an ingredient called aspartime in it that changes chemical composition when heated. This chemical can be likened to the bite of the south american fire ant, which discribes some of your skin symptoms. BTW this is not a joke. Best wishes
 
parachute last decade
Hi, After much research on internet, I realize I have this dermographism. I would have liked to hear back from the poster (mintee) regarding the results of their cleansing diet. If you read this and could let us know if it worked at all it would be very appreciated. And if anyone else has tried dietary measures or discovered that this had any relation to their emotions or medications they were taking and could please post it that would be great. Thanks very much!
 
bbrooke last decade
hey bbrooke, I'd like to hear if the cleansing diet works as well. Will someone please inform us?
 
Robbiem5290 last decade
BooBoo

I went to Manali this December (2008)from Delhi. It was chilling cold (snowing) in Manali. We are not used to such extreme temperatures. Here my wife developed itching on the back. And, when we returned back to the plains, the itching continued and gradually became unbearable. She took anything from Allegra (Allopathy) to Graphite & Sulphur (After searching from our Forum) but that gave only temporary relief. Now, the Allopathic doctor has attributed this problem due to change in temperature and has put her on one tablet of Livocet per day for a week. She felt slightly better today. Thought of sharing this, if it would help others. Will keep you all posted on further developments. Would also like to add here, that yes, she did add artificial sweeteners to her tea in Manali. May be that was the culprit ?
 
booobooo last decade
It seems as if no one has posted on this topic for a while. Since it still has a strong Google search presence I thought I'd add a bit of my recent experience.

Two years ago I became very sick with multiple 'side effects' - including hives - over a ten month period. The illnesses and uncontrollable depression were extremely debilitating. I believe this was caused by a commonly prescribed low dose blood pressure med. (It's a really long story for another day.) Months after stopping that med (and the additional meds prescribed to me to deal with resultant side effects) I was still abnormally itchy every now and then.

Months later I had three tick bites and weird effects within a 24 hour period. In an attempt to cover a few possible outcomes until test results were available one doctor gave me Ceftin. Someone above mentioned a similar drug.

It was after I took that antibiotic that I started to experience horribly bad hives again. As months passed it was apparent that some of this was dermatographism and pressure urticaria. I didn't want to mask the symptoms with a remedy; I first wanted to find the cause. Sure the antibiotic may have triggered it, but what had it done to my body to cause that effect?

I wasn't one to jump on fad diets. However, I ran out of whole wheat/whole grain bread and skipped gluten for a few days. When I realized that gluten might be an issue I eliminated it for a few more days and then several weeks. That helped the rashes and my overall well-being.

After many doctors' appointments a stranger at Trader Joe's then suggested the Candida Diet. (I hadn't even considered a skin yeast infection until she mentioned it.) More than five weeks ago I began a completely gluten-free and sugar free Candida diet (using The Candida Diet . com) and it's working wonders. I'm not cured yet but the extreme late night itchiness has improved significantly, the frequency of hives slowed and the severity of day time rashes/hives has diminished quite a bit. It's not gone but so much better.

Counter to the recommended diet, I've been slow to add too many probiotics or natural candida remedies at once. (That's not just I amy trying to avoid Candid die-off; part of me just still fears adding anything in pill form.) This resolution may be a bit slower but I'm hoping that my body will continue to heal itself with good foods, lots of water, exercise and time.

I hope others find the same relief soon.

No doubt, I believe all these issues were results of prescription meds. Even so, I believe our commercial food products are so overly processed that they're harming us. Wherever you can, eat local. Eat organic. Eat unprepared, unprocessed foods to protect yourself.

Lingering questions for me: Do topical creams or aloe just soothe conditions or do any treat the underlying cause(s)? Both an allergist and dermatologist have recommended hydroxyzine (at night) and Allegra (by day). I'm not really interested in taking anything. Do you think that's a mistake? Would they simply relieve symptoms or can they really help to heal me?

Thanks for your insights and suggestions. I wish you well.
[message edited by connkenn on Sat, 06 Oct 2012 15:58:54 BST]
 
connkenn last decade

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