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Infretility due to TB infection and hemorrhagic cyst

I am from India and 32 year old married couple. More than 5 years passed to our marriage. My wife tries to conceive from last 3 years but till now no success.
Last year our doctor gives us medicine those help to conceive but no success.

This year in feb-2012 doctor ask us to go for a ultra sound of lower ABDOMEN. Following things are come to us (fig - First Ultra sound.jpg)

As the report have two fibroid in uterus and 'Minimal free fluid seen in pouch of Douglas'.

So our doctor go for further reports (Haematology, Serology and TB ELISA Panel) and found that TB ELISA IgG 183 which is very high. Figure (Haematology.jpg, Serology.jpg, TB ELISA Panel.jpg)

And she told this is due TB infection in uterus and starts (Isoniazid, pyrazinamide and rifampicin). After 6 months we go for another ultrasound (Figure – Second Ultra sound.jpg) and found that there is a 18*17 mm cyst (hemorrhagic) in right ovary and 'Minimal free fluid seen in pouch of Douglas'.

Than they changes our medicine and after two more months in Nov -2012 same ultrasound (Figure – Third Ultra sound.jpg) is repeated but no success again but the cyst (anechoic) size is increased drastically to 38*37mm. Than she says that medicine not working we need to go to TB expert for further treatment and she was 99% sure the this is only the cause for not conceiving.

Now our worries increased and we consult to another gynecologist and she told that we need to go for surgery and fibroids.

Now I need your suggestions about this. My questions are

Is this (IgG) cause for not conceiving?
What is the difference in hemorrhagic and anechoic cysts?
As i read many article about this what should be the treatment here in homeopathy?

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  manishsharma143 on 2012-12-11
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Sorry there is no option to upload too many image so i just upload Third Ultr sound report and here TB ELISA PANEL report image.

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manishsharma143 last decade
Dear Manish,
Pl. don't get entangled with terminology of pathology/allopathy about that 'cyst' you can be told the meaning of it but in homeopathy
many other things dominate in selection of remedy over pathology,so be patient we have very knowledeable doctors here on the forum I think you have to answer the questionnaire of patient which will lead to selection of remedy,in that q'nnaire you will notice that no hi-fi terminology is used it is a simple statement of your sensations,feelings,responses,
your attitude,your likes,dislikes etc. it leads to selection of remedy beacuse its a question of hormony between mind and body,I dont know how much you will be able to aapreciate this,but Homeopathy works that way.
bapu4 last decade
Ok, I will post them all very soon.
manishsharma143 last decade
1.Describe your main suffering?

Try from last 3 years but could not conceive, Pathology report says that there is two minor fibroids in uterus, one cyst in right ovary and free fluid in pouch of daggles.

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?

Nothing, no pain nothing.

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?

No mental sufferings as such, just feel bad because of not conceiving

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?

Feel very bad, Why God do this to me

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?

Before one year

6. Which time of the day you are worst?


7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?

not known

8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?


9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?


10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.

Arrogant, Moody

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?

- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
I am very attahed to my family

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?

Normal, no perticular posture

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?
I am normal

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?

Isoniazid, pyrazinamide and rifampicin these are all for TB infection

22. What major diseases are running in your family?

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance

I am 48kgs,5.5' slim. normal
manishsharma143 last decade
Docs please reply
manishsharma143 last decade
waiting for reply....
manishsharma143 last decade
Hi Manish,
sorry for delayed reply but I see that nearly every thing is normal so you have to give the deatails of her msenses too..
In the point of external stimuli pl. elaborate to which she is sensitive to noise,to light etc.
In the menses-Whether they are regular of early or dealyed?
Nature of discharge?
if any pain then when.how the kind of pain etc,when the disharge takes place day or night etc
bapu4 last decade
Pl. also describe the nature of you wife,Weepy,cheerful mild,strong headed ,normally sharing her sad or paining thing with others or keeps them to her,comfortable in cooler atmosphere or warmer atmosphere,her friends many or few,talkative or silent etc.
Does she wants to be consoled,her inclination and response to music,her energy to work ,does she gets tired early,any strange sensations heat/cold/numbness,any peculiar dreams or dreams of common theme like sad theme,adventure theme,vividtiy of dreams,her sleeping position,
[message edited by bapu4 on Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:52:01 GMT]
bapu4 last decade
I note that none of the consultants on this ABC has responded to your plea for assistance to treat the 2 Fibroids and the Chocolate Cyst that your wife presents.

I regret that I am not competent to treat what you state is a TB infection in the Uterus, which I quite frankly doubt very much. You are advised to seek the diagnosis and treatment from a specialist in TB for this problem, if it is positively diagnosed as TB.

I shall copy my default therapy for Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts which usually go hand in hand. I would suggest that the remedies prescribed are taken for some months and after you have proof from US Scans that the CC's have reduced I shall then prescribe to reduce the Fibroids.

Your remedies are:

Bellis Perennis 30c
Arnica 30c
Apis 6c

All remedies to be taken in the Wet dose twice daily leaving about an hour between each.

Bellis Perennis reduces the Chocolate Cysts that are usually present with Endometriosis and also prevents the spread of these lesions internally.
Apis 6c will help the body to reabsorb the Chocolate coloured fluid which fills them.
Arnica will reduce your pain and the bleeding that many patients suffer from, some on a continuous daily basis.

Please note that this therapy is not an instant fix to your problem and you may have to take it for some time into the future.

Report your response in a week and after your next period.

Please follow the instructions below to make the Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy.

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

I would like to place on record that I do not believe that the many questions and answers that you have made in your post of December 12 in response to Bapu have any direct bearing on your wife's case, but this is the standard form of questions which classical homeopaths have been brainwashed into believing as essential on the basis that the founder of Homeopathy and his immediate followers have worked out a series of questions, which in my humble opinion are not all relevant. What is more, they only cloud the details of the ailment when presented to the consultant who is expected to ponder over the answers and prescribe just ONE remedy to treat the TOTALITY OF THE SYMPTOMS that have caused the disease. I too subscribed to this theory but was sadly disillusioned many years ago and changed over to my own therapy where I treat the disease head on, on a 'This for That' basis. You are invited to visit my website below for further information on the many patients who have been cured by me, 3 of whom have been blessed with pregnancies and 2 who succeeded in being blessed with babies as one was an Ectopic Pregnancy after about 5 years of treatment by me.


I practice what the classical homeopaths have derisively labelled as 'Joepathy' and I am proud to state that my therapy seems to be far more effective in its rate of curing the disease than the rate of cure that results from the classical homeopaths after all the questions have been answered.

I would also like to mention here that PRAYER also helps.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Mr.Joe,
You can see in the first set of answer nearly every thing of the patient is normal,since a Homeopath rarely sends patient for pathology report the symptoms are the only way to guide to remedy.
For endo. I also prefer Arnica as per your method but since it is TB we have to think other parallel remedies including Tuberculinum.You may be having experience with Apis6 for the specific problem but symptomswise it doesn't seem indicated pl go through the answers with due regards to your knowledge you can go ahead for treatment to this patient but I will go at least as per the basics of homeopathy I.e. symptoms guiding to the remedy,also I will keep asking questions till symptoms indicating remedies come out.I urge to kindly give me your link for the experience about Apis6 ,I will be grateful to you.
With warm Regards
[message edited by bapu4 on Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:54:11 GMT]
bapu4 last decade
Dear Bapu,

As you are perhaps aware, I am not qualified in Homeopathy as I presume that you are. I do not also practice as a professional, as to me Homeopathy is only a Hobby to which I am passionately dedicated and I have never charged any fees. I have already indicated in my post to the patient, that I am not qualified to treat the TB aspect of her problems and I do not feel that Homeopathy can replace the drugs that are used today in medicine to treat TB. I shall copy my statement below:

'I regret that I am not competent to treat what you state is a TB infection in the Uts, which I quite frankly doubt very much. You are advised to seek the diagnosis and treatment from a specialist in TB for this problem, if it is positively diagnosed as TB. '

You have requested me to provide you chapter and verse on my using Apis 6 to reduce the liquid in a Chocolate Cyst (CC) and I have to inform you that there is no reference to using Apis in the classical textbooks that you and I have studied except for other ailments associated with the accumulation of fluid in the body. I have experimented with this remedy in the 6c potency to treat other patients presenting Endometriosis and CC and the 3 remedies I have prescribed have invariably worked together to reduce the CC in a short time by about 5mm per month in the ø of the CC. Arnica stops the copious flow of blood with the attendant pain which the patient invariably suffers from during menses, while the Bellis P has some action on both the Endometriosis and the CC by helping in the resolution of the problem. Apis helps to enhance the action of both remedies.

I must admit that even I am surprised when some of the patients report that in just 2 months a US Scan clearly shows the reduction of the CC and they invariably report the stabilisation of the bleeding and the absence of any pain to which some patients have suffered for a lifetime, some with constant bleeding. I have saved a few patients from a Hysterectomy which their doctors have advised simply because they were not able to stem the flow of blood and they took the easy way out, not considering the impact on a woman.

You may like to know that I am not alone in refusing to use the classical therapy which we have both originally studied, in my case about 40 years ago. I also added Radar 9 software to my computer to make it easier for me to identify the remedy that was generated in the classical manner. It was only when I discovered that the remedies that I prescribed, some of which are not listed in the Repertories and MM's in use today like Arnica for Diabetes and Nat Phos for Obesity to name just two of the many that I have discovered would help the patient, that I finally broke away from the Classical method which you use and preferred to use my own Joepathy, because I discovered that mine was more direct in helping the patient towards a cure.

You may be interested to learn that Dr Prasanta Banerji uses the same 'This for That' therapy that I use and you can visit the link below to read more about their therapy on:


As I presume you are aware, I prescribe remedies exclusively in the Wet dose method as I have found in over 8 years of using it that this method provides a far safer and more effective vehicle for the treatment of any disease in comparison to the pellets that are in use universally today. I have proved this point on myself as I have been taking one dose of Arnica 30c for the last 17 years nightly and at age 84, I have proved categorically that this remedy has helped me to maintain my state of wellness at a level that no other drug or remedy can possibly equate.

I would recommend it to you too if you wish to live up to my age free of all aches and pains that are accepted as the price of the advancing years.

If you have any questions that you would like to ask me, please do not hesitate to do so but I would prefer if you do so on my own Website.

Kind Regards

Joe De Livera
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Thanks a lot for you kind guidence,and I know your age I also have complemented you on your birth day,I visit this forum to learn and help patients and don't like to have hot exchanges,I respect your experience with the remedies and experience should never be asked for scientific proofs,that is my thinking,Today our brother hood of homeopathy are busy in proving how the homeopathy is scientific,I feel there is no need for this because results speak for themselves,I feel homeopathy is more towards spiritual than scientific and I think a practitioner of your age will certainly subscribe to this view,thanks a lot for throwing light on Apis.
I would suggest Manish(Whose wife is asked for treatment by him) to try your prescription and see the results.
Warm Regards
bapu4 last decade

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