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I suggest that you go to DKO naturals
site, and put nat phos in the search box- it comes out as S10 Dr Recekweg biochemic cell salt.

DKO is in Canada but they ship to usa, and are faster than usa companies, 2 days usually.

The reason I say get the Dr. Reckeweg is it is made in Germany and an excellent product.
I live in USA and have tried the Hylands for years with no effect from them, and other
people have said the same thing-I am now using Dr. Reckeweg brand and the medicine
is doing what it is supposed to do.
 
simone717 last decade
Any site in USA.or any store in usa like whole food market
 
Baby4 last decade
Whole foods has only Hylands brand
cell salt. If you have health stores around
you can ask if they carry dr. Reckeweg,
If you were going to order online, DKO
is just as easy as ordering from the
vitamin shoppe.???
 
simone717 last decade
Baby4

I hope that you succeed in getting the Nat Phos 6x from any vendor that Simone has suggested from whom you can order it or better still collect it personally as it is your Baby that suffers till you give it to him.

I shall await your news of his response after the first dose of a tablet dissolved in milk or water.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
No I am not able to get it in shops.there is only hylands brand can I have that.
 
Baby4 last decade
You can try that- but if it does not work you need
to switch brands. Bc it may be the brand. I have
used Hylands on me and my kids, and others, and
everyone has said it does not really do anything ( tried cell
salts from this brand for several years)

Recently I switched to Dr Reckeweg and it does have
the right actions and is reliable.
 
simone717 last decade
Natrum Phos is not the right remedy for your child. Every child who suffers from Reflux/acidity/gas does not need Natrum Phos 6X.

The remedy that will greatly benefit and cure in this case is: Lycopodium 6C
 
Zady101 last decade
I have prescribed Nat Phos 6x for your baby a few days ago and it really does not matter what brand it is as long as it is a reputed brand and sold as a Biochemic Cell Salt in the 6x potency and you can buy it immediately.

I live in Colombo Sri Lanka and do not have any knowledge of the various brands of Homeopathic remedies in the US but as far as I am aware Hylands is a reputed brand widely used in the US where I believe it is manufactured.

You are advised to buy it immediately and give it to your baby who is suffering from reflux.

If you discover that Hylands does not work after giving it to baby for a period of 24 hours, you can then order it from other sources.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Natrum Phos 6X is not indicated in this case. I have done the case taking, so I know.

A small 4 months old baby is given Natrum Phos 6X after every feed. Does it make sense? If there are 6 feeds in a day, then Natrum Phos 6X will be given 6 times.

This is not Homeopathy. This is allopathy!
 
Zady101 last decade
Another 4 months old aggravated by Natrum Phos where the problem increased substantially after initial amelioration. I have had to ask the mother to stop Natrum Phos, although in this particular case it was indicated but she simply dosed as Joe recommends - after every feed.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/381920

In your baby's Natrum Phos is not indicated and will only palliate and not cure.
 
Zady101 last decade
Dr joe did I mention that my baby burps a lot.while sleeping he get up cries and burp.he get up every 2hr at night.it feels like burp stuck in his neck.and his tummy make noises.before giving nat phos 6x I wanted to tell you about this.he spits milk only in the evening time.
 
Baby4 last decade
The burping and the crying is due to the build up of the acid in baby's stomach which is sometimes followed by the baby throwing up his feed causing the parents some distress.

It is precisely this problem that I have succeeded in treating in the case of many babies for the last 20 years and it seems to me that many mothers have been addressing their problems on the ABC forum and on my Website as they may have discovered that I have achieved some success in the treatment of this common Baby GERD condition for which the standard drug prescribed by a paediatrician is a PPI drug whose action is by far worse than the action of Nat Phos 6x which I have prescribed for the first dose of half tablet to be increased to a full tablet to be given immediately after a feed dissolved in milk or water to the baby patient.

It is possible that these mothers may have come across my name on the ABC forum where you will see records of many babies whose problem I have solved sometimes in a few hours after the first dose. Others may have Googled 'Baby Gerd' and come across my name with a record of some cases I have solved.

The great advantage of Nat Phos 6x is that it is absolutely safe to be used by a baby and it always ensures that the vomiting associated with the other signs of discomfort in terms of crying, arching of the back and general distress are quelled within a few minutes. Nat Phos also ensures that baby poos regularly as it treats constipation.

I see that you have not given baby Nat Pho 6x and I cannot understand the reason why you spend so much time in rushing to your computer to express your thoughts so many times instead of following my instructions to get the Hylands Nat Phos which you indicated was available in your city and giving baby the first dose ASAP.

I do appreciate that your mind is confused by the other classical homeopath who is determined to use his classical expertise in 'case taking' when the patient is unable to respond as he is only a 4 month old baby.

As you are perhaps aware, I do NOT SUBSCRIBE to classical homeopathy as I practice 'Joepathy' which was a term coined by another classical homeopath who eventually conceded that my therapy was equally effective to his own classical homeopathy over which we had many arguments in the past till he left this forum.

When you are free to do some research you can visit:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Zady101

I can see that you have the making of another Gavini Murthy or another David Kempson who are both classical homeopaths and were similar to you in their comments addressed to me on the ABC forum and you may be interested to read a few of them on:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/


These two homeopaths were diehard classical types who would only treat a patient after doing the laborious 'case taking' process which you have stated you have already done for this baby and included many questions which I consider are totally irrelevant when dealing with a 4 month old BABY whose mother is being confused by you so very unnecessarily.

I feel that it will only waste my time to rebut the statements you have made to CONFUSE the mother of Baby 4. You must remember that the cardinal law for a physician is to TREAT the patient and NOT to confuse him or her.

I submit to you that my Joepathy does precisely what I have mentioned in my advice to the mothers of the babies with remarkable success as you can read if you visit my website:
joedelivera.com

or by doing a Search for:
Baby GERD on this forum.

I am copying below the first 2 Aphorisms of the ORGANON which I presume you studied to remind you of Samuel Hahnemann's thoughts on how a patient should be treated by the Homeopath.

§ 1

The physician's high and only mission is to restore the sick to health, to cure, as it is termed.1

1 His mission is not, however, to construct so-called systems, by interweaving empty speculations and hypotheses concerning the internal essential nature of the vital processes and the mode in which diseases originate in the interior of the organism, (whereon so many physicians have hitherto ambitiously wasted their talents and their time); nor is it to attempt to give countless explanations regarding the phenomena in diseases and their proximate cause (which must ever remain concealed), wrapped in unintelligible words and an inflated abstract mode of expression, which should sound very learned in order to astonish the ignorant - whilst sick humanity sighs in vain for aid. Of such learned reveries (to which the name of theoretic medicine is given, and for which special professorships are instituted) we have had quite enough, and it is now high time that all who call themselves physicians should at length cease to deceive suffering mankind with mere talk, and begin now, instead, for once to act, that is, really to help and to cure.


§ 2

The highest ideal of cure is rapid, gentle and permanent restoration of the health, or removal and annihilation of the disease in its whole extent, in the shortest, most reliable, and most harmless way, on easily comprehensible principles.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr joe got the medicine.till how many days I have to give it to baby.half tablet after each feeding not to exceed 8 tablet.and till how many day I have to take tablet 3 times after meal 1 tablet.
 
Baby4 last decade
Your baby is the patient and you are the mother who is now asking me for how long you will have to give the Nat Phos 6x to baby. You have not indicated if you have already given the NP to baby and if so what his response is after the first dose.

You must understand that I cannot respond to your question till you give me feedback on his response.

Did he vomit again after taking the half tablet of NP immediately after a feed?

You will take 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily and the NP will also pass over to baby in your milk.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
He did vomit after the feed.again I gave half tablet after the feed and made him burp.right now no progress.its been 4 hrs.
 
Baby4 last decade
It is likely that you will have to increase the dosage to 1 tablet to help his digestive system to stabilize and get back to normal.

As soon as he stabilizes you can then reduce the dose to half tablet and you can still later see if he can do without the NP.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
I have increase the dose to 1 tablet.but he is crying and not sleeping at all. can it be nat phos6x side effects.what to do.he is crying not sleeping burping and throwing milk...
 
Baby4 last decade
It is possible that the Hylands Nat Phos is not effective. This was confirmed by Simone who stated:

'I suggest that you go to DKO naturals
site, and put nat phos in the search box- it comes out as S10 Dr Recekweg biochemic cell salt.

DKO is in Canada but they ship to usa, and are faster than usa companies, 2 days usually.

The reason I say get the Dr. Reckeweg is it is made in Germany and an excellent product.
I live in USA and have tried the Hylands for years with no effect from them, and other
people have said the same thing-I am now using Dr. Reckeweg brand and the medicine
is doing what it is supposed to do.'

Would you like to follow her advice and contact DKO?

In the meanwhile you can continue with the Nat Phos you have with you and hope that it will work.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Now my baby is suffering from gas and burp. He is really cranky not taking milk. I am also taking nat phos 6x and not eating onions garlic dairy products and gassy products. What to do he has taken 3 tablets as of now. What should I do. Should I carry on with this medicine. What about nux vomica or arsenicum.plz suggest something.i am not giving him Zantac. He is not sleeping and crying out loud.when I put his tommy on my legs he pass gas and is little comfortable and burps a little.
 
Baby4 last decade
If you do not want to try the nat phos anymore then Zady
had suggested you try Lycopodium 6c.

That remedy is at whole foods, by boiron in the blue tubes.
Usually after you have tried a remedy a few times, and it does
not work ( at least 3 times) then that means.....it is not the
right remedy, go to another remedy..

I would go get the lycopodium 6c from whole foods and when you
get it, you will be advised how to give it. It is a well known digestive
remedy and your baby has specific symptoms that are similar to it.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:39:35 BST]
 
simone717 last decade
Joe's therapy has helped thousands of people but sometimes we need to try different remedies, especially in acutes. In this case, I would suggest we start with Lycopodium 6C and hope it works

2 pellets dissolved in 6 spoons water, stir vigorously

Give 1 teaspoon to the baby
wait 15 minutes
give 2nd teaspoon
wait 15 minutes
give 3rd teaspoon

throw away the remaining 3 teaspoons.
 
Zady101 last decade
I have given nat phos 3 tablet. What abt nux vomica and chamomilla.i will go and have lycopodium
 
Baby4 last decade
Not in milk in water.ok
 
Baby4 last decade
After how many dose.it will make difference.he is burping.gas problem.spit and no potty will pray to god he get well soon
 
Baby4 last decade
Is it boiron lycopodium clavatum
 
Baby4 last decade

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