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Gallbladder attacks

33 years old
female
gallbladder attacks
Started when I was pregnant with my 7 week old son. I had three attacks while pregnant and was told it might stop after pregnancy but if not they would have to remove my gallbladder.
Now I am having them every few days, it is intense pain. The first one start about 3 to 4 weeks ago.
I have had orangish yellow stools ever since then.
I am exclusively breastfeeding so anything I take will go to the baby as well.
I need help urgently I can't have the surgery to remove my gallbladder yet as my son breastfeeds every two hours or so.
I have tried altering my diet but I seem to have them at random now no matter what I eat. Even after just fresh fruit and vegetables.
I am currently not even eating any dairy along with a list of other things due to my son being colicky and not knowing if it is something I am eating.
I usually manage the pain with apple juice and apple cider vinegar. However, tonight it didn't work as usual.
I have an ultrasound next Tuesday to look for gallstones.
I would be willing to due the flush but it requires a strict time line and my son isn't very predictable at night. I don't know if he's going to go to sleep at 7:30 or midnight. It takes me 10 minutes to several hours to get him to sleep.
 
  Tiffylove on 2013-08-05
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
have mag phos 6x ,5 tablets dissolved in an ounce of hot water three to four times a day.or as soon as the attack starts and also refer and give your symptoms listed as under.
history of complaints
[message edited by anuj srivastava on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:51:17 BST]
 
anuj srivastava last decade
What is your chief complaint? Intense pain from gallbladder attacks
When did this complaint start? When I was about 6 months pregnant with my son who is now 7 weeks old.
What was going on at this time? ( examples: emotional upsets, disappointments, illness of others, accidents, injuries, travel, new foods or
exercises) Having a hard time with pregnancy, gestational diabetes, feeling bored and depressed at times, body hurting.
What is your opinion of the cause of the complaint?
I'm not sure. I don't have an opinion of what caused it but for some reason I have a feeling that I have a blocked bile duct and that is why the attacks come so often and pain medicine doesn't work.
List other main complaints after this and give the same information.
Subtle pains in legs especially when trying to sleep. Started around the same time.
HISTORY OF MEDICATIONS

Please list what medications you have taken for your complaints, Allopathic or homeopathic.
I tried Dioscorea Villosa as it was the only homeopathic medicine I could find with Gallstones in the description.
What medications are you on now? Motrin, Norco
If you picked your own medications, what were the symptoms for the choice you made?
If you have or are under the care of an MD or other homeopath, please list the tests you have had if any, and
what advice you have been given.
I am not under the care of anyone for this condition at this time. Although I do have an ultrasound scheduled in a week to look for gallstones.

DO NOT REPEAT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPRESSED.
let me know the color of your .TONGUE
LIGHT PINK, LOOKS NORMAL TO ME.





1.Cracked appearance of the tongue with or without pain, hardening and inflammation.
NO



2. Swollen,numb ,stiff,with pimples on it,white ,furred,.Bitter taste in morning with headache.
NO



3.Flabby,resembling a layer of dried clay.Yellow coating at the base/clay colored coating.Taste sour ,soapy.
NO


4.Clean red/furred,with headache.Dark red swelling.
NO


5.Mapped.Swelling of tongue,appearance,grayish white,dryish,/slimy.
NO


6.White/slimy/brownish.Seems as if it would cleave to the roof of the mouth due to dryness
NO


7Yellow and slimy coating.Witish edges(sometimes),Insipid taste or taste lost.Lips , tongue and gums white
NO
.

8.Clean with pain in the stomach. /Coated white with loose motions/bright red with rawness in the mouth.Left side sore,eating painful.
NO
9.Mapped/numb/stiff.Coating slimy/clear/watery,with small bubbles of frothy saliva covering the sides.Taste lost.Vesicles on the tip.Sensation of hair/dryness of mouth and tongue.
NO


10. Yellow creamy coating at the back part of the roof of the mouth./ Moist, creamy or Golden yellow coating at the back part of the tongue.Blisters and sensation of hairs at the tip.Coppery /Acid taste
NO
.

11.Dirty ,brownish green/grayish-green.Taste bitter.Palate very sensitive- Better taking cold things.Burning blisters on the tip.Bitter taste.
NO
12.Ulcers on the tongue,sensation of hair on the tongue
NO

write yes or no in capitals in front of the u/m symptoms.will review the case.

NO Sudden, intense ailments from fright.
YES Anxiety and restlessness with complaints.
NO Fears that do not subside.
NO Faintness or dizziness upon waking up.
NO Sudden fever with one cheek red, the other pale
YES Intolerance of pain.
NO Painful urination with anxiety
NO Pains followed by numbness and tingling.
NO Eye pain and injuries
NO Throbbing headache.
NO Unquenchable thirst.



YES Emotional upset
YES Fear
YES Anxiety
YES Extended period of unusual or continued mental exertion
YES Dizziness
YES Diarrhea
YES Craving for sweets and salt. Craving for strong flavors.
YES Enthusiastic and suggestible, with a tendency toward peculiar thoughts and impulses.





YES Anxious
NO Anxiety associated with later stages of head cold, with sneezing
NO Asthma worse after midnight, fears suffocation while lying down
YES Fearful
YES Irritable
NO Restless
YES Sleepiness but insomnia
NO Thirsty for frequent small drinks
YES Weak and exhausted
NO Desires air but sensitive to cold
NO Vomiting with or without diarrhea after eating and drinking



NO Increased perspiration
NO Night sweats
YES Cold hands and feet
YES Dizziness
NO Nausea
NO Ravenous hunger
NO Aversion to fats
NO Craving for eggs
NO Eyes sensitive to light
NO Pale face
NO Large appetite with slow digestion





YES Nervousness
NO Apprehension
YES Anxiety prior to an examination or public performance
YES Fatigue and aching of whole body
NO Limbs, head, eyelids heavy
YES Headache
NO Scalp sore to touch
NO Sore throat
NO Lack of thirst
YES Dizziness, trembling, fatigue, dullness



NO Vomiting
NO Sensation of a lump in the throat
NO Chills with fever
NO Thirst during chills
YES Chills relieved by warmth
YES Cramping pains in the abdomen or back
NO Headaches that feel like a nail driven into the side of the head
YES Skin very sensitive to drafts
YES Introspective
YES Sad
NO Brooding
YES Tearful
YES Rejects company
YES Disappointed
NO Grieving
YES Insomnia from emotional distress
NO Nausea relieved by eating
NO Eating intensifies hunger



YES Exhaustion
NO Deep anxiety and inability to cope
NO Headaches
YES Jumpy and oversensitive
NO Startled by ordinary sounds
YES Backaches
NO Nervous digestive upsets

NO Shakes head without any apparent cause
NO Facial contortions
YES Gassy, constipation or diarrhea
NO Sour belching
NO Claustrophobia
YES Irritability
YES Digestive upsets with gas and bloating
NO Craves sweets, warm food and drink
NO Night cough
NO Wants to be alone
YES Cranky on waking
NO Bullying tendency
YES Fear of failure
YES Breaking down under stress


NO Tongue feels dry
NO Mucous membranes dry
NO Nausea
YES Insomnia
NO Claustrophobia
NO Migraine headache
NO Vomiting
NO Pains around eyes
NO Craves salt and dry foods
NO Weepy but won't let others see it. (Wants to be alone to cry.)
NO Consolation aggravates them
NO Angry from isolation
NO Fright, grief, anger
YES Nervous, discouraged, broken down
NO Depressed


YES Anxious
YES Fearful
NO Weak
NO Associated with hoarseness
NO Tight heavy chest
NO Dry rasping cough
NO Burning pains in stomach, abdomen, between shoulder blades
NO Thirst for cold drinks that are vomited
NO Nausea
NO Night sweats


YES Sensitive
YES Weepy
YES Wants attention and sympathy
YES Changeable symptoms and moods
NO Craves open air
YES Sensitive to heat
NO Dry mouth with lack of thirst
NO Rich food upsets stomach
YES Insomnia from recurring thought
NO Head colds
NO Loose cough, worse at night
NO Delayed menstrual period with scanty flow



YES Worry
NO Overwork
NO Headaches
YES Difficulty concentrating
YES Exhaustion,
YES Over sensitivity
YES Overreact and devote attention to tiny details
YES Low stamina


BODY ODOR? NORMAL

SWEATING FROM FEET AND ODOR? NORMAL

NO feeling of suffocation when wearing a tie.

NO any funny sensation in the body,delusions etc

YOUR PAST TURMOILS?

sleeping habits,and any other peculiarity under the sun your body and mind is experiencing which is not normal.
NEW BABY, WORRIED ABOUT HIM IN ALL WAYS.
SENSATIONS
(Note: - Sensations are also important and should be especially noticed. The special sensations may occur in any part of the body, or internally or in the head or extremities. Give the sensations in your own language to express it. No matter how simple or even ludicrous, it is necessary to give it.)
Examples: - It may be like a mouse or bug crawling; like wind blowing into the ears or eyes; as if someone was pulling a hair; as of a blow on the of a band or cord around the head; as though you had a cap on or hat; as a plug in the ears or some other place; as if another person lies along side of him, or that one limb is double; as if abdominal muscles were pushed out by arm of a child ;
as if boiling lead were pushing through rectum ; as if anus would fly to pieces during stool ; as if moisture, or a drop were running through the urethra back ; as if the year was grasped by an iron hand ; as if claws were grasping the bowels; as of a splinter in the throat or flesh like a string of thread on the tongue or in the throat; as if joint were dislocated; as; as if legs were made of wood.
LEGS DON'T WANT TO REST SOMETIMES AT NIGHT. CALVES FEELING LIKE THEY NEED TO BE STRETCHED ALL THE TIME. DULL ACHING DEEP IN LEGS SOMETIMES
(Note: - These are merely illustrations, a few which have occurred to other person, and are given that you may understand what is meant by sensations. Always give the locations as well of the sensations.)

BETTER OR WORSE
(Note 1 :- This section refers to each disease, each sickness and to every symptom. No matter what the trouble may be it is necessary to be refer to this section. Be sure that the aggravation or amelicration you notice is from the course given.)
(Note 2 :- The time of an aggravation or amelioration refers to the year, the month, the week, the day, the night, or the hour.)
State at what time your troubles or any single symptoms, is made better or worse.
- State what season of the year, what time in the month, whether the phases of the moon cause either, what part of the week, what hour of the day or night the trouble or single symptom comes on or is made better or worse.
- Is there any position which you may assume that causes a particular trouble or any single symptom to be better or worse? It may be when you first lie down; or after lying down awhile or rising after sitting or on sitting after standing, walking; walking much; walking in the house or in the open air, or in the cold air ; or at night; running, running rapidly or slowly; when stooping over, after
stopping, or on rising from stooping; leaning the head backwards, forwards; to one side or leaning the head on the table or the hand; lying with head high or low; lying in some particular position ; crawling on the hand + knees or some other or many possible positions.

- Does anything cause the trouble or a single symptom to be better or worse ? It may be reading ,writing , music ascending or descending the stirs or a hill, biting the teeth together ,blowing the nose , before or after one of the meals, breathing, breathing deeply, when chewing food, when eating or drinking, closing or opening the eyes , looking up, down or sideways, from heat, cold, from warm or cold air heat of stove or sun, dry or moist air going into the air or going into the warm, sunlight or lamplight from excitement, fight, grief, grief, sorrow fasting, some kind of food or drink
motion or quiet, when nose is discharging or is dry, from gratification of passions , scratching, rubbing, beginning of sleep, during a storm, thunder storm, snow storm, swallowing food, drinking of saliva, talking, singing, hearing other talk or sing, music touch, turning over in bed, covering up or uncovering, wet dry, windy or cloudy weather.
(Note 3:- The above is given to impress on the mind the great importance of noticing what may seem to be little things.)
At what age did you have your first menses? 15
- Had you any trouble before or during the first period? NO
- Have you, at any time, had you menses stopped or decreased by getting feet wet, from a general wetting, from cold, fright weakness, sickness or any other cause? NO
- Have menses been irregular or painful at /since a particular time? BEEN PAINFUL AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER
- Are your menses too frequent, too seldom, delayed, regular, early, and late? If so how often do they come? REGULAR
-
- Do you have menses during the nursing of your child? NOT SURE, JUST STARTED
- Do you have the whites or nose bleed during menses? NO
- How long do menses last? 3 DAYS
- Do excitement of exertion bring menses on? NO
- When does the flow increase, decrease or cease? Afternoon, day only, evening, lying down, morning, motion, at night only, walking? Mention only things that affect the flow?
- Character of the flow, describe the flow very carefully acrid, black, bright red, brown, changeable, clotted, lumpy, conspicuous, dark excoriating ( making parts sore) , fetid or foul ,greenish , gushing hot ( unduly so),membranous (shreds), milky, mucus? DARK RED, LOTS OF CLOTS, HEAVY FOR TWO DAYS, LIGHT FOR ONE
- What is the odour?
- Is it pale, profuse, protracted (lasts two long) scanty, stingy, tenacious, thick, too thin, viscid, watery, dark clots to bright blood, etc. Give exact appearance and odour of the flow?
Before the menses
- Various troubles of the abdomen. Loss of a very great appetite. Troubles of the back. Difficulty in breathing. Troubles of the chest. Chill, chilliness, costiveness, cough, delirium, diarrhea, ear trouble, eructation, eruptions, eye troubles, face trouble, fainting, cold feet
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head troubles, headache, Leucorrhoea, pain in arms or legs, swelling, itching and soreness of the breasts, mental changes Nausea or vomiting, bleeding of nose, ovarian troubles, pain restlessness, sexual excitement, urinary trouble, great weakness or weakness, Describe all such troubles, and others as directed in various sections.
During Menses; - This refer to the time from the starting to the ending of the flow.
After The Menses: - Many of the troubles referred to above may occur after the menses. Give all the complaints carefully as above attach sheet.
Leucorrhoea (the whites ) :- Aluminous (like white of an egg ), biting, black bloody , brown, burning, clear, cold, cream like, dark, foetid or foul, like jelly, greenish, in gushes, honey colour, lumpy, mild or bland , milky, mucous, opaque, profuse purulent (matters) ropy, scalding, scanty, smarting, causing soreness, starchy, sticky, stiffening the lines, suddenly coming & going, tenacious, thick, thin, thready, transparent, watery, white, yellow


do you have a mind which you feel is perverted? NO

are you arrogant? NO

do you over estimate yourself? NO

do you feel that you are from A SUPERIOR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS FROM LOW FAMILY AND YOU LOOK DOWN UPON THEM? NO

DO YOU IMAGINE YOUR BODY IS LARGE AND THOSE OF OTHERS SMALLER? YES

ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT NON SERIOUS MATTERS? YES

palpitation AND TREMBLING ABOUT THE LIMBS DURING EXCITEMENTS? NO

DO YOU IMAGINE THAT YOU DO NOT BELONG TO THIS RACE? NO

NUMBNESS IN WHICH PART OF THE BODY? NO

MUCH FLATULENCE AND FERMENTATION IN THE STOMACH? NO

SENSATION AS IF THE WHOLE ABDOMEN WAS TIGHTLY CONSTRICTED? ONLY UPPER ABDOMEN WHILE HAVING GALLBLADDER ATTACKS

HALF DIGESTED STOOL,ADHERES TO THE ANUS AS IF CLAY? NO

UNBEARABLE SEXUAL EXCITEMENT AND VOLUPTUOUS CRAWLING IN THE GENITALS? NO

PERIODS EVERY 14 DAYS? NO
[message edited by Tiffylove on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:38:52 BST]
[message edited by Tiffylove on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:39:50 BST]
 
Tiffylove last decade
color of the tongue?
 
anuj srivastava last decade
Disclaimer:
The remedies below are not mentioned for any self medication but only as a supportive statement based upon several beneficial cases of gallstone colic. Only a prescribing physician may consider it alongwith a single high starter of tub.


I may refer here to few cases of gallstone colic that came our way in last many years. Nearly all benefited by a simple alternation in 30th potency... all finally went for the removal of gall bladder in 8 to 10 years. We think we delayed the OT visit by many years but have not yet been able to fully clear the case to a level where long term prospects of operation are diminished.

In one case that was not improving at all was misdiagnosed to be of gallstone colic but later a very small hernia was found.

The remedies are as under;

1- Chelidonium-30 morning
2- Cholesterinum-30 noon
3- Chelidonium-30 afternoon
4- Cholesterinum-30 night.

Many Regards to everyone at this learned forum.

Homeopath
Syed Furqan Ahmed
 
H/Dr.SFA last decade
I have edited the top to include the information about my tongue. I am sorry I forgot it.

I want to also add that after every attack, once the pain completely goes away I have grateful and good feeling thoughts. It's almost like a new 'lease' on life feeling. I usually feel that way until I go to sleep.
 
Tiffylove last decade
1 Nux Vom 200
15 drops in a cup containing an ounce of water, sip one third of it, 15 minutes later sip the next third of it, and 15 minutes later take the last third of it.HALF AN HR BEFORE DINNER .dont repeat.

2 Nat Sulph 200,5 pills every day.

3.Mag phos 6x ,5 tablets dissolved in an ounce of hot water three to four times a day.or as soon as the attack starts .

feed back every 4 days
 
anuj srivastava last decade
The health food store did not have liquid nux vom only pellets 30 and didn't have nat sulph 200 either only 30.

Can I use those otherwise I'll have to order it and it could take weeks to get.
 
Tiffylove last decade
start using them,in the meantime you should order.

nux 30 have three times a day,5 pills each time morning , afternoon and evening,from next day start NS.

HOPE YOU GET MP THERE.START IT IMMEDIATELY.
 
anuj srivastava last decade
Hi-
It should never take weeks to get anything.
If in usa order off this site, if Uk or canada
order from helios homeopathic pharm -
they take around 7 days or so.
 
simone717 last decade
I have started taking the MP.
I'm ordering the nat sulph but which one are you referring to?
Natrum Sulphuricum or Natrum Sulphurosum?
 
Tiffylove last decade
 
simone717 last decade
I did as you said and took the nat sulph and mag phos for several days. I have not had an attack since the day before I posted my original post. I also changed my diet more. But I do feel slight pains further right and sometimes dull aches in the area of the attacks but definitely nothing close to the pain before. I had an ultrasound done Tuesday which showed a few small gallstones. I haven't taken anything for several days as I have been dealing with my colicy baby and forgot to. Should I continue?
 
Tiffylove last decade
Please take dioscorea 30 tid.with chionanthus Q ten drops thrice daily.

[moderated - phone number removed as per forum rules]
 
Dr.vamshikrishna last decade
have mag phos 4 times a day instead of three.

is there a reduction of size in the stones?


nat sulph be reduced to alternative days now

also let me know abt your other symptoms like pain in the calf,mental state etc.
[message edited by anuj srivastava on Fri, 16 Aug 2013 03:15:34 BST]
 
anuj srivastava last decade
The pain in my calves is more like an ache and feels like its super tight. stretching it feels good but like it needs more than that. My husband squeezes it for me and it hurts but feels really good at the same time. I have had that issue for several years.

Mentally I am a worrying and get bored easy. I lack motivation and haven't found my passion (work or hobby) in life yet. I am currently struggling emotionally but I believe its because of a lack of sleep and I am completely stressed out trying to find the solutions for my 8 week olds gas pains. Its heartbreaking to watch his pain and not be able to do anything.

Another symptom I think is worth mentioning is my acne. It went away while I was pregnant but it is back again on my cheeks and chin.
 
Tiffylove last decade
stop nat sulph.

have argentum nitricum 200 one dose .5 pills ones and give a feed back next day.

mag phos be reduced to three times a day.

any reduction in size of the stones?

what is the problem with your child let me know and also let me know if you had a strong urge for sweets during your pregenancy and you were eating a lots of sweets during that time.
 
anuj srivastava last decade
I'm not sure if the gallstones have reduced in size I have only had one ultrasound and that was recently.

While pregnant I did crave sweets once in a while but I didn't have them as I had gestational diabetes. I don't eat much sweets now because I am refraining from dairy, chocolate, and eggs as I don't know what is affecting my son. I am breastfeeding him. He has really bad gas pains. It keeps him from sleeping even when he clearly wants to. He grunts and kicks all the time. Lately even while nursing he'll pull off kicking and pulling his legs up and scream then cry. I'll rock him to sleep just for him to 5 minutes later suddenly and quickly pull his legs up and open his eyes and fuss.
 
Tiffylove last decade
i have discussed the case of your son with simone will come back to you.
 
anuj srivastava last decade
I have been taking the medicines as you have said except I don't get in all the doses of mag phos it is really hard to do while taking care of my son.

I have less discomfort. Once in awhile I still feel a little discomfort but still no attack since I posted this originally.

Can I take the argentum nitricum with the mag phos? If I can only get in a few day which one is more important?
 
Tiffylove last decade
size of the stones?
mag phos is priorty
argentum is also importANT
 
anuj srivastava last decade
I have no way of knowing the size of the stones now.

When I had the ultrasound done all they told me was you have a few small stones.

I will do my best to be diligent about taking the meds. I really want to resolve this issue.
 
Tiffylove last decade

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