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I have a 1 yr old Brittany Spaniel that got a little white dot (growth) on the side of her tongue (close to tip)when she was about 3 months old. That has now grown to about 8-10 small dots in an area of 3/8' by 3/4'. The dots range from 1/16 to 1/8' in diameter with a little clumping The tongue itself is swollen in this area and there are white dots on the under side of the tongue in the same area. I have treated her with a 10 day round of Azithromycin and no change. I tried two doses 4 pellets of thuja 30c 10 hrs apart - so 8 pellets total. The texture changed a little during this treatment so I did another round after 14 days and it didn't do anything. I think the thuja made her a bit bloated but that may be my imagination. I have also read that Calcarea Fluorica 30c may work as well if thuja doesnt. I need help - vet wants to cut off part of tongue and i don't think that's the answer. I have been giving her 500mg ester-c once a day for last week. Help!
 
  mgmacha71 on 2013-08-08
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Please give Antimonium Crudum 30 one dose a day for 3 days.

One dose: 2 pellets dissolved in some water, and give it to her to drink.

Update me after 3 days.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
ok. I will order some. And advise after 3 days. Should I see results that fast? She weighs about 40lbs - just to confirm for dosing.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
You will see trends good enough to decide what is working and what is not.

Regarding dosing, Antim Crud dosing is correct, but dosing for Thuja wasn't. You should have done 6C first. We may come back to Thuja.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Ok. Should i go ahead and get some thuja 6c just in case since i can order at same time as other? Also, is there other things i should order while you m at it? Thank you very much for your time with this.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
No idea at this time. Need to see the response first.

Will work with Thuja 30C now.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Ok so i received it in the mail today. Can i give it to her with food or wait until after I feed? If so, how long do I wait? Also, how much water should i give it to her with?
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Oh, and I also ordered some thuja 6c since i was already ordering the other. So if you want to incorporate that as well I have it. Thanks again for all your help with this!!!!
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Please hold Thuja back for now.

Please give Antim Crud 30, 2 pellets twice a day to him by dissolving it in his water.

Update me after 5 days or earlier if needed.
[message edited by Zady101 on Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:39:53 BST]
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Ok so i received it in the mail today. Can i give it to her with food or wait until after I feed? If so, how long do I wait? Also, how much water should i give it to her with?
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Give it to her right away. No point in waiting - with food, water, milk...anything...

Don't worry about qty of water
 
Zady101 6 years ago
ok. So do treatment for 3 days or five days? Sorry for all the questions.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Please give Antimonium Crudum 30 one dose a day for 3 days.

sorry one dose, not 2.

2 pellets
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Ok, so i gave her 1 dose a day of antimonium crudum 30 for three days. I cant really tell much of a difference. The spots may be slightly smaller but Im not sure. Color hasnt changed though. Do i continue or wait. If I should continue, then for how many more days?
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Please give one dose a day for 5 days and update me
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Ok so I gave it to her for 5 days and the bumps got a little smaller - I think. Its very hard to tell. What should I do now?
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
So I conclude that spots are definitely not increasing.

Please give Antim. Crud. for 5 more days. After that we will review progress and decide.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Correct. No increase. Ok I will continue.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
I gave it to her for another five days and I think the spots shrunk a little more. Attached is a picture so you have a reference. The spots were bigger when we started this whole process. The swollen part of tongue hasnt gotten larger nor has it shrunk. The spots you see on top of tongue are on underside as well.

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mgmacha71 6 years ago
Ok, good. Pls repeat for 5 more days.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
I gave it for 5 more days. No improvement.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
Thuja 6C

Dissolve 5 pellets in some water in a bowl and give to him to drink.

Do this twice a day for 3 days n update me.
 
Zady101 6 years ago
ok. Some of the spots smaller and some got larger over the last week. I started the thuja 6c this morning and will update you in a few days.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
So there is now definitely something happening with thuja 6c. On top side of tongue some spots are gone larger ones are smaller. Underside of tongue has little change. Tongue overall has a distinct blue/purple color to it.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago
What's the status?
 
Zady101 6 years ago
Not much change this time around. I'm starting to feel a little defeated.
 
mgmacha71 6 years ago

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