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Diarrhea after gall bladder removal

I had a gall bladder removal (laproscopic) and ventral hernia repair (open) about 10 days ago. I had a bout of diarrhea from the third day of surgery, for four days. After a gap of three days, it has started again. A search on the internet shows that this is a typical problem associated with gall bladder removal. Some live with it for the rest of their life and many make adjustments to food (by experimenting) to reduce the frequency. Is there a remedy in Homeopathy for this condition? I understand that this is because bile flows continuously into the large intestine and the LI cannot handle it and expels it with wind. I am really worried. There are mentions about a drug called Questran (Cholestryamine) that apparently help. I would prefer a homeopathic solution any day. Thanks in advance
  gall_surgery on 2005-11-13
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Check out Podophylln, it should help.

Try low potency twice a day for 2 weeks (6x) .

If condition returns repeat.
walkin last decade
China seems to be fit here.
ABC Hompath last decade
the gall bladder has an important function in digestion. And, if you just remove it (which by the way is quite the barbaric thing to do), you are compromising your digestive health for the rest of your life. Surgeons who remove gall bladders are complacent in educating patients about nutritional changes they need to pursue after losing this important digestive organ.

For example, you're not going to get the same quality of digestion you would have had if your gall bladder were in place. You're not going to get the excretion of the bile from the gall bladder into the small intestine, and as a result, you're not going to efficiently digest foods that are moving through your digestive tract. This is especially true for dietary fats, including essential fatty acids.
from -health ranger-mike adam.
munish last decade
Thank you walkin, ABC_Hompath and munish.

My homeopathic doctor gave me medicines two days ago for this condition. The diarrhea appears to be have settled. He does not disclose the names of the medicines but when I told him about Podophylln and China (recommended in this forum), he said he was planning to give China if the first medicine does not work.

I believe that no organ in the body is entirely useless. But, the mesh planned for Ventral Hernia would have made any future gall bladder removal difficult (according to the three surgeons I consulted before). I was on homoepathic drugs for gall stone removal, for nearly a year but that did not help. I had regular attacks that made life tough.
gall_surgery last decade
Gall bladder disease and gallstones are almost always the result of poor nutrition .For example: consuming a lot of soft drinks, sugar products, highly acidic foods like red meat and products made with white flour all contribute to the formation of gallstones.

Gallstones can be reversed, but it’s something that takes quite a bit of time. After all, they have been formed in your body over a period of decades, so it's not something you can get rid of overnight from a nutritional standpoint. At the same time, I know that a lot of people are experiencing extreme pain when it comes to passing gall bladder stones. So obviously, those people are looking at surgical procedures as a more immediate technique for getting rid of the pain.

Let's look at some information about gallstones because it is something that affects somewhere around 18 million people in the United States, and maybe even as many as 1 in every 12 people. And yet most people don't know they have them.

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), pain from gallstones results in about 800,000 hospitalizations and more than 500,000 operations each year in the United States. Unfortunately, the NIH doesn't give people a lot of information about how to actually avoid gall bladder problems.

Surgeons have a habit of making everything sound really simple, up until the day you have the procedure done. Then, you start experiencing all sorts of rather serious side effects, and they say, "Oh yeah! That could happen as well."

Don’t have body parts removed by overzealous surgeons.

mike adam- health ranger.
munish last decade
#One of the very best you can pursue is Tai Chi. By following the gentle, pivoting movements of Tai Chi, you will massage your liver, gall bladder, pancreas, and even your heart. These organs are not fixed in place. They're not fixed in your body like they are on an anatomy chart. Your organs move around, and they actually benefit from movement just like massaging a limb.
In fact, people without gall bladders need to take special care of the foods they consume for the rest of their lives. And above all, they need to avoid all fried foods and any snack foods containing hydrogenated oils or trans fatty acids due to the role of the gall bladder plays in neutralizing excess dietary cholesterol.

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munish last decade
I just found this site. I had my gall bladder out 2 weeks ago and cannot take these side effects anymore!

You didn't name the first med the doc put you on. Can you please please let me know what it is...I need some help.

You posted this sometime last November. I am wondering how you have been doing and if you are still on the meds.

coco0876 last decade
Dear coco0876,

Sorry to hear about your condition.

My doctor does not disclose the name of medicines. So, I do not know what he gave.

However, I wrote to the doctors at NDTV (an indian television company that has health as a major theme in its website). One doctor asked me to take STIBS (another brand is ECONORM; available in India). It is a pro-biotic made of saccharomyces boulardii. I was asked to take one sachet in the morning and one in the night. Preferably on an empty stomach. This worked for me. I now take one sachet only when I have diarrhea. The frequency of diarrhea has decreased drastically. It happens only when my breakfast is delayed. As long as I have my b/f on time, things are ok.

I would strongly suggest you to include oats or wholegrain cereals as part of your diet. Try oats gruel for breakfast and you will feel the difference.

I would suggest that you ask your surgeon before you take these medicines.

From the responses to my mail here, I feel China is worth a shot.

Best wishes.
gall_surgery last decade
Thanks for getting back so quickly. I've been looking into this and seems like this is all too common.

I was told there would be absolutely positively NO side effects, at least for the MAJORITY of patients.

I will look into this China you are talking about, I can't live like this anymore. Glad to hear you are doing well though, that gives me some hope! Thanks again
coco0876 last decade
I would suggest try pulsatilla 30 4 times a day, as pulatilla favors those who cannot digest fat properly, means it can do the same what bile does?

ashfaq last decade
If gallbladdr is removed, drinking the juice of at least two lemons each day usually solves all the problems.
girilal last decade
After the meals.
girilal last decade
please check out all remedies online with reputable sources. wikipedia
and drugdigest are two among others that are giving contrary (to this forum) advice about podophyllin. Not all 'natural remedies' are safe! Podophyllin is used to increase bile production for constipation, if advised, which some people say is not safe at all and all say it is never safe if you are pregnant or nursing.
k-scooter last decade
Hi - I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the remedies suggested? Has the China worked, has the pulsatilla, the lemon juice? Any other suggestions? Coco or Gall Surgery any luck? I have the same condition, I have had it since 1983. I don't want to live with it anymore :(
Miss Seb last decade
Miss Seb,

I have diarrhea when there is a longer gap between meals. it is difficult for me to define longer. However, if I take my meals on time and avoid fats, I do not have diarrhea. Even if it happens, it is just one bowel movement. When it happens more than once, I take a sachet of ECONORM or STIBS.

i am on medication for other problems. I do not want to try china or pulsatilla.
gall_surgery last decade

My mom has diarrhea problems after she takes any food with fat contents. It sometimes happens 3-4 times a day itself.
On medical checkup we found that she has a small gallstone (size 1.5cms). Now she is also having gasteric problems.
Doctors recommend her to have the gall bladder removed and tell that the indigestion as well as gasteric problem would be solved after gallbladder removal.

But from what i have read in net it seems that indigestion(diarrhoea) happens after gallbladder removal.

Please recommend the following:
1. Does gallstone have relationship with diarrhoea which she is facing?
2. Is it recommended for her to undergo gallbladder surgery? Will her condition become more worse after gall bladder removal?

Hoping for a earlier response. Thanks in advance
mr mrpk last decade
Mr Mrpk,

I was unable to login under my other userid for awhile (not sure y) so I re-registered specifically so u could share this info with your mom!

Before she considers ANY surgery for her gall bladder tell her go check out this website...

They will not let me post the URL so do a google for Diet Power Forums.
Once there under the Health Topic click under the folder for Weight Management. Once there the 1st topic should come up titled Weight Gain after Gall Bladder surgery. Lots of eye opening info .

There are many women (and men) that have had or are considering the surgery. There are MANY side effects that people are dealing with after the gall bladder is removed that people were just blatantly lied to about. Post surgery I have gained over 60 lbs in LESS than 1 yr!!!!! Nothing I do helps to take it off either, I have always been athletic and believe me this is a nightmare that myself and many others are going through. I am currently taking bile salts and will probably take them for the rest of my life. This is to regulate bile production because without the gall bladder your body will make either too much or too little (a neat little fact that the Drs purposefully neglect to tell)... along with the gall bladders most important function-aiding in digestion and break down of fats so without it the fats are extraordinarily hard to break down.

Again, before she goes through with the surgery have her try a natural alternative device to ridding herself of the gall stone. Cholecystectomy is big business and big $$, my DR didn't close up my belly button correctly and now have a sever hernia and have to go for another operation. Wish I had known then what I know now but was rushed into it thinking I had no other options (hindsight yanno)
coco0876 last decade
Hi All, I'm new here. I had my gall bladder out in '95. Sure wish I had this info back then, but I had a traditional dr. who said 'you don't need your gall bladder.'
He also told me it's an inherited thing, since my Mother had hers out many years ago.
I have a great homeopathic dr. now who is treating several conditions of mine. Re. lack of a gall bladder, he put me on 'Ox Bile' which is put out by 'Allergy Research Group' and I buy in on a site called Emerson Ecologics. This is to help with digestion of fats. I find it works well, but I still rather keep my intake of fats down below a dull roar, so I don't take the Ox Bile everyday.
I'm so glad to have found this site.
Hope this helps even one person. I also don't try something new like that unless I know I'm staying home, just because I don't know how it works yet.
BrandiRaye last decade
Living without a gall bladder forces me to be disciplined for the rest of your life, as far as food is concerned. I need to have my meals on time, keep fat content in food low and plan well when traveling to places that do not have good toilet facilities. Given a choice, I would not recommend removal of GB to anyone. I sincerely believe that a good homeopath will be able to figure out a good medicine that would dissolve the stones and also prevent stones from forming further. The discipline in food habits would still be required.

The surgeon who operated me said two things make it risky for me without a removal. One, with my sugar levels approaching that of a diabetic, I would feel any GB related pain late. I might get into some complication before I realise. Two, these stones can block the duct and hence cause an emergency. This is the complication I referred to in point #1.

I would give a good homeopath's treatment a six month try before opting for surgery.
gall_surgery last decade
All the suggestions are worthy mentnioning. But I suggest to take juice of lemon occassionally. and Natrum Phos-6x ( 4 tablests before meal). also please look at Nat. phos.


This salt is found in the cells of the blood, muscles nerves, brain and intercellular fluids. A departure from the normal in it is characterized generally by 'sourness,' an excess of lactic acid; sour eructations, or vomiting, or diarrhœa in infants or adults; acidity; uric acid conditions, rheumatism of the joints, gout. Discharges from the eyes, or sores, are yellow and creamy; tongue yellow; throat and tonsils are covered with yellow, creamy coating. Dyspepsia, sour or acid. Perspiration smells sour. An anti-acid.

This salt has proved to be curative in indigestion, acid stomach, flatulence, sour risings, nausea, vomiting, worms, loss of appetite, diarrhœa, headache, heart-burn, intermittent fever, morning sickness, scabs yellow, sores etc., when the general conditions noted-above are present.

dr. mahfooz
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
All those suffering with long term diarrhea and cramping after having their gall bladder removed...PLEASE READ!

My life is now back to normal!

Questran and Welchol (the tablet version of Questran and a lot easier to swallow) are worth their weight in gold!

If you want the symptoms to stop..ask your Dr. for it! It took me 2 years to fix myself...2 years more than it ever should have!
jess2008 last decade
Jess - Is Questran and Welchol the same? Is Welchol just Questran in pill form? Thank you so much for this info!! I can't wait to try it. I've been suffering with this for over 30 years...
Miss Seb last decade
Actual drugs in each:
Welchol (colesevelam HCL)
Questran (Cholestyramine)

They basically do the same thing. Because Questran does not come in a tablet form, I was forced to try the powder. It is terrible...gritty and gross tasting- I tried it in applesauce, water, etc..nothing made it easier to go down).

My doctor found Welchol for me when I complained that Questran a wonderful drug but difficult to get down!

Welchol was actually made to lower bad cholesterol (lower LDL cholesterol). It does this by binding to bile acid. My theory is that without a gall bladder to store excess bile acid made from the liver, it just sits in my stomach/intestines...making it very irritated and upset. The Welchol binds up the 'left over' bile acid that would normally go back to my gall bladder.

Maybe this is a basic understanding..but for whatever reason...this stuff works!

Although it is prescribed as a '6 tablets per day' treatment (3 in am and 3 in pm), I only take the 3 tablets before breakfast. Otherwise, I get constipated. I had to take the full dose for the first few days to get my system under control. I would definitely give it a week before making any judgements.

Read about Welchol and Questran online too.

Hope this works for you!

Have your Dr. call it in for you! I left the pill bottle on the counter in my kitchen for 2 weeks..thinking why would this be any different? I was so mad I hadn't started sooner. It is my miracle drug, and I hope it is yours too.

Please let me know how it works for you!
jess2008 last decade
Hi everyone.
I had my gall bladder removed in May of this year (2008). I was fine until the next day when I started having chronic diarrhea. Several days later (and a whole lot of time on the toilet) I checked in to emergency with a very high fever. After a week of sampling my stool, x-rays, and an interesting colonoscopy, they could not find what was wrong with me. Luckily I was in constant contact with my sister (who is a great doctor in her own right) and she told me to eat ONLY bananas, boiled rice, and apple sauce, instead of the hospital food they were feeding me. I did so and was out of the hospital two days later. In fact I was feeling better within a day of starting the diet! This may not work for you but it wouldn't hurt to try if you're having problems after a gall bladder operation. This diet is tried and true for ANY diarrhea problems, by the way.

As a side, I was told that the diarrhea is a result of the surgeons giving you a dose of antibiotics before the operation, to boost your system. Occasionally, however, it kills off the 'good' germs in your stomach, giving free-reign to the 'bad' germs that are also in there, which then gives rise to diarrhea.

Also, I am now between 25 and 30 pounds heavier that before the operation. I've never been so BIG! I understand now that the gall bladder did a lot to help you digest. So the real question is (after dealing with the diarrhea, of course): WHAT CAN I EAT AND WHAT CAN'T I EAT??? Anyone? Anyone?


Hope this helps and if you can, answer my question too. Cheers,
dogbear last decade
I unfortunately had no choice when having my gall bladder removed. it was so infected that it could have burst like an appendix and killed me because of the bacteria. along with an infected gall bladder, i had gall stones and pancreatitis. i'm aware this is my fault, i'm only 18 and obese :'(

i can't go a day without diarrhea.. and the fact that i'm living on a college campus and not really having healthy choices for dinner it's hard to eat right.

if i tried to stick to a lowfat diet, and stay away from dairy products should my problem improve? i'm not to keen on taking medications right now, so i'm hoping to steer away from that.

colleenm last decade

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