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lycopodium bloating - lyc acute chronic counterpart

Hi my 3 year old child has abdomen bloating and speech delay since birth. He was given Lyc 30C, and did well on that, so he was prescribed Lyc 200C, and he did well on that too. However a few days later since he had worms he was given Cina 200C. After that whenever we give Lyc even in low potency 30C, he starts getting bloated. If we try another Homeopathic remedy after the Lyc, the bloating gets even worse, so we have to stop all remedies for 2 months.

We wanted to know what is the acute-chronic counterpart for Lycopodium and dosage?

Any suggestions on what can be done to alleviate the bloating?
  SeemaK on 2015-01-10
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lycopodium is a deep acting remedy. it does not have any specific acute. it has lachesis and iodine as complementary and sulphur follows well. in your child's case probably sulphur is required. do not give lachesis or iodine without consulting doctor. you can try sulphur 30 not more than one dose and not at night.
telescope 9 years ago
Thank You telescope. I am trying to learn - could you please explain to me What in his case is indicating Sulphur?

Once I give Sulphur, I will not be able to follow it with Lycopodium - So what if bloating persists after the Sulphur, then will we have any options left?
SeemaK 9 years ago
the logic is like this: if Lachesis is indicated there will be aggravation in and after sleep of all problems. if iodine is indicated there will be emaciation coupled with enlargement of glands. as aggravation after sleep and emaciation is not there that leaves sulphur to be considered. in small children you may find redness of orifices like eyes, ears,nose and anus indicating sulphur. sulphur also has bloating. if you need to give lyco after sulphur you have to use an intermediate like Calcarea Carb which also has bloating. sulphur, calcarea and lyco is a series moving in circles.
telescope 9 years ago
Actually, what needs to be done is the whole case retaken by the homoeopath. Something has changed, and the fact that Lycopodium worked previously may have absolutely nothing to do with the next remedy he needs.

It is quite normal for people to no longer need their previous remedy, and for things to change so that they need a new remedy. This is what you would expect. However, you must adapt to the current symptoms and changes to continue any previous benefits.
Evocationer 9 years ago
hi evocationer, thanks for the tip. that will be the best thing to do.
telescope 9 years ago
Thanks telescope, evocationer, I did appointment 2 wk ago and he gave Lyc saying is his constitutional and to take 1 drop daily. Started the Lyc and within 5 days my son became so bloated could not eat that Dr. told us to stop for few days. Then last week he got fever so I contacted Dr again and told him bloating is still there and fever too..He said fever is healing reaction, and that the best remedy for bloating is Lyc.
Same thing happened in Sep-Oct 2014. He had been given Lyc 30C in Sep and it had helped reduce bloating, then Dr gave Nux V for constipation, and then bloating became worse. So in Oct Dr gave Lyc 200C and bloating reduced, but then gave Cina for worms, and then he got very bad bloating.
So that is why I though of Acute-Chronic pairs such as, Aconite — Sulphur, Allium cepa — Phosphorous, Apis — Nat-mur...Gave him herbal and now since 2 days fever has stopped and bloating reduced.Any suggestions? Why some homeopaths do 1 dose 200C in 3 weeks, others say 1 dose 200C daily or 3 times a day? so confusing
SeemaK 9 years ago
Is he giving 200c daily? That is far too much, especially considering he is aggravating. He should be given ONE dose only, and assessed again after 1-2 weeks without any further doses complicating matters.

The best remedy for bloating is NOT just one remedy - that is a ridiculous thing to say. There are literally THOUSANDS of remedies for bloating - the one the patient needs depends entirely on all the symptoms in the case. It might be true that one remedy is the best for THAT patient, but there is no such thing as a best remedy for a specific condition or symptom. That is how orthodox medicine works, not homoeopathy. I hope that is not how this practitioner is operating.

Without knowing much more about the case, I believe it is most likely that your homoeopath is seriously overdosing your child. You need to insist they start obeying one of the most basic homoeopathic principles - the Law of the Minimum Dose (least amount given to effect a change). If your child is as sensitive as he seems, one dose only with a watch and wait policy would be best.

Did his fever come after the herbal remedy?
Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes Evocationer, its liquid form 1 drop - bottle he gave only said Lyc200 - i presume its 200C.
Overall case is abdomen bloating, speech delay, low physical growth, behavioral symptoms from worms (reduced eye-contact, emotional meltdowns, making demands & then refusing it when demand is met), behavioral symptoms from bloating (clingy, squirming), possibly all vacinosis & heredity miasmatic. Worms seems under control for now, so we're going after the bloating. Any suggestions - how to tackle the speech delay et all? Its likely Lyc is his remedy (as it has given improvements in the past), though I feel he is sensitive to it at 200, but Dr says some aggravation will happen as we stir out the layers. What about LM - How does it compare to 6x, 30C, 200C? Thanks for helping so much.
SeemaK 9 years ago
I couldn't really give any valuable advice without seeing/taking the whole case. I would be happy to do that if you want a second opinion.
Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes Evocationer, I would be very happy if you can help and give me your opinion
SeemaK 9 years ago
Please let me know what info I should send you
SeemaK 9 years ago
Describe each physical complaint/associated set of symptoms in detail. Please include the following when doing this:

1. Appearance
2. Sensation or pain
3. Situations/events/triggers for making it worse
4. Situations/events/triggers for making it better
5. Event that seemed to start the complaint
6. Other sensory features – smell, sound, taste, tactile etc – of the symptom

Make sure each complaint is done separately. Do not group them together. This is for physical complaints/diseases rather than mental or emotional problems.

Symptoms may be divided into three categories:

1. Symptoms which they more or less have all the time
2. Symptoms which appear as ‘acute’ things but have appeared more than once
3. Symptoms which have appeared for the first time.

Make sure you clearly divide the symptoms into these three groups.


1. When the physical complaint is active, what is his/her emotional state like? What does he/she do? What does she/he want you to do?

2. Does he/she describe any unusual sensation or pain in the body, especially when they are complaining of something?

3. What fears does he/she have? How does she/he react?

4. Was there any incident in the past that had a great impact? What happened at the time? Is there any ongoing reaction to this event? How does he/she talk about it?

5. Is there any story (book, fairytale, cartoon, movie etc) that seems to really resonate with her/him? What does he/she say about it?

6. What kind of fantasies does she/he describe to you? How does this translate down into play, games, toys? Does he/she tend to draw particular things over and over? If so what are they? If you point to these images, what does she/he say about them?

7. Does he/she describe any dreams or nightmares to you, and what are they? How does she/he react on waking from them?

8. How is he/she when interacting with other children? What about sports or games? How about obeying rules or social conventions?

9. How is she/he when interacting with older people? Is there any difference between family or friends and strangers in terms of reactions and behavior?

10. What kind of activities does he/she enjoy doing? Which of these do she/he spend the most time at?

11. What qualities seem to make your child different from other children?

12. How does your child cope with school, school work, study, deadlines, speaking in front of others, following directions etc?

13. What kind of questions does he/she tend to ask you or other adults?

14. What makes her/him laugh? What makes him/her cry?

15. What makes him/her angry or irritable?

16. What does your child do when alone?

17. Is there a particular person or type of person that he/she reacts to, and what kind of reaction?


1. What position does he/she sleep in?
2. Is there any position he/she seems unable to sleep in?
3. Any unusual behaviour during sleep?
4. Any problems with sleep?
5. What foods are craved (cravings are strong desires) What foods are hated?
6. What drinks are craved? What drinks are hated?
7. How does he/she react when hungry, or hunger is prolonged?
8. How does the weather affect?
9. How does the temperature affect?
10. Are there any other environmental influences negative or positive (season, noise, music, moon, light, dark, day, night, time, smells etc.)
11. Problems with stool or bowel habit?
Problems with urine or bladder habit?
12. Where does he/she sweat most? Does it stain or smell unusual?
13. Has she/he reacted to any medical treatment in the past in a strong or negative way?


1. What kind of health problems occurred while you were pregnant with your child?

2. Were there any other stresses or traumas that occurred?

3. Did the birth itself have any problems?

4. Do you remember if any symptoms occurred suddenly during pregnancy that then vanished after your child was born? Especially important are any emotional or mental changes during this time.
Evocationer 9 years ago

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