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miss abortion
please take this case who are experienced in pregnancy problem...i have got married before 2 years, between two years my wife got pregnant two time and both time she did not get pregnant naturally every time doctor prescribed medicine for pregnancy and both time she has miss abortion starting of 3rd month of pregnancy, now gynecologist done all blood test and found 3 virus positive like rubella and etc. doctor saying this is cause miss abortion so please help about natural pregnancy and miss abortion....
mariz on 2015-08-28
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I would require some details on the case. If you could provide history of her periods. Did she notice any irregularities in the periods.
Her main remedy is sabina. However, I suspect some vaccinations which might have been in the history, so first we might have to give her thuja and onwards sabina. However, before I give you potency information and how to proceed with the treatment, it would be in the favour of patients, if her periods history, how long it continues and any abnormalities are shared.
Regards,
Her main remedy is sabina. However, I suspect some vaccinations which might have been in the history, so first we might have to give her thuja and onwards sabina. However, before I give you potency information and how to proceed with the treatment, it would be in the favour of patients, if her periods history, how long it continues and any abnormalities are shared.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
many thanks for reply...
every month periods come late 3 to 5 days there is no exact date of periods i.e. if her periods comes on 5 then next come 9 or 10 then next 13 or 14 ...during 2nd pregnancy we used sabina 30 from starting but no result
every month periods come late 3 to 5 days there is no exact date of periods i.e. if her periods comes on 5 then next come 9 or 10 then next 13 or 14 ...during 2nd pregnancy we used sabina 30 from starting but no result
mariz 8 years ago
mani_jee 8 years ago
sabina 30, 5 drops three times a day, from 1st month of pregnancy up to miss abortion means 8 to 9 weeks
mariz 8 years ago
The dose was too high. I suspect the miscarriage might be due to over use of sabina, since homeo medicine taken too frequent and for longer time would cause proving.
My recommendation would be give her a single dose of Thuja 200 (not to be repeated on daily basis) and give a gap of 1 week, then give sabina 6 (preferable in tablet or globules form - 2 globules), daily 1 dose for 1 week and then stop for 1 week, and give Thuja 200 (single dose) in between. Then start with sabina 6 for 1 week.
Regards,
My recommendation would be give her a single dose of Thuja 200 (not to be repeated on daily basis) and give a gap of 1 week, then give sabina 6 (preferable in tablet or globules form - 2 globules), daily 1 dose for 1 week and then stop for 1 week, and give Thuja 200 (single dose) in between. Then start with sabina 6 for 1 week.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
sabina cause miss abortion then torch blood test showing virus we have done two time blood test and every time virus found doctor saying its cause of miss abortion but during first pregnancy we did not use sabina even that she has miss abortion fetus heart activity not found both time..
[message edited by mariz on Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:46:06 UTC]
[message edited by mariz on Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:46:06 UTC]
mariz 8 years ago
now she is taking 6 month course for virus prescribed by gynecologist and i want to use homeopathy medicine for long term effect...so please prescribed medicine for virus and for natural pregnancy and for avoid miss abortion...she is not pregnant rite now
mariz 8 years ago
If she is already under treatment of gynecologist, it is not advisable to over-load her with homeo and allopathic medicine. However, you may give her a single dose of Thuja 200 and see how it effects. You may have to repeat the tests (though you won't be sure at the end, what caused the difference, was that homeopathy or allopathy).
Regards,
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
allopathy treatment is so costly and taking too much time that why i want to try homeopathy, after thuja 200 does she get pregnant naturally?if she get pregnant naturally then i will sure it cause homeopathy because doctor told she need medicine for pregnancy..
[message edited by mariz on Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:17:15 UTC]
[message edited by mariz on Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:17:15 UTC]
mariz 8 years ago
I suspect that sabina was given too frequent and the dose was too much. Thuja will help to reduce the ill effects of sabina. If the miscarriage was due to over use of sabina, then off course, thuja will help, otherwise not.
I would advise, if you try her NOT to be pregnant again. At least give her a break for 6 months to 1 year. This is desirable for your wife's physical and mental health.
Regards,
I would advise, if you try her NOT to be pregnant again. At least give her a break for 6 months to 1 year. This is desirable for your wife's physical and mental health.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
Please copy the Questionnaire from the following thread
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/188925/
and post all the questions here duly answered. On that basis your remedy may be worked out.
To prescribe her constitutional remedy, I would require the questionnaire filled completely and as much detail as possible. Answers in Yes / No do not help.
It would be preferable, if she completes the questionnaire by herself instead you asking her questions and then writing it back.
Regards,
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/188925/
and post all the questions here duly answered. On that basis your remedy may be worked out.
To prescribe her constitutional remedy, I would require the questionnaire filled completely and as much detail as possible. Answers in Yes / No do not help.
It would be preferable, if she completes the questionnaire by herself instead you asking her questions and then writing it back.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
ok... i will complete questionnaire with her then write back....yes of course we are not trying for pregnancy up to 6 month
mariz 8 years ago
patient id: sex: female age:25
1. describe your main suffering?
ans. did not getting pregnant naturally, fetus heart activity absent both time,miss abortion in starting of 3rd month both time.
2. what other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
ans.feeling fever when wake up, allergy with dust,
3. what mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
ans. normal feeling
4. what exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
ans. feel hot & cold when fever come.
5. when did it all start? can you connect it to any past event or disease?
ans. no any past event.
6. which time of the day you are worst?
ans. fever in the morning.
7. what are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
ans. dust aggravate cough & runny nose.
8. do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
ans. no i don't think.
9. when do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
ans. i like cold weather.weather did not aggravate symptoms
10. describe your general mental set up? are you moody, arrogant, mild, agreeable changeable, nervous, suspicious, easily offended, quiet, arguing, irritating, lazy etc.
ans. quiet nature, nervous about house work like food test etc.
- how do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
ans. before feel normal during some fear i think that is normal.
- do you like being consoled during your tough times?
ans. i like being consoled.
- are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
ans. no
- do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
ans. no
- how do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
ans. i think family members be with together otherwise family nice, i think husband always be with me,understand me,support me otherwise husband is good person.
11. what are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
ans. fear that husband don't leave me alone.
12. what do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
ans. crave= testy (chat pata),fry item.
aversion= lady finger.
13. how is your thirst: less, normal or excessive?
ans. normal
14. how if your hunger: less, normal or excessive?
ans. normal
15. is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
ans. when i eat peanut(moongphali) desire to itching in side the chest.
16. is your sweat normal or less or more? where does it sweat more: head, trunk or limbs?
ans. sweat normal but more sweat in arm pit, when i walk sweat come on back.
17. how is your bowel movement and stool type?
ans. bowel movement 2 time a day first after wake up 2nd after lunch, stool type normal.
18. how well do you sleep? do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
ans. sleep is good, i like to sleep right side.
19. do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
ans. yes i am satisfied.
20. how do you think you are different from others, if at all?
ans. not at all.
21. what medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
ans. for getting pregnant= ovashield, ecosprine, folic acid.
after pregnancy= maintain injection,duphaston, injection hucog 5000 iu for egg rupture .
22. what major diseases are running in your family?
ans. no any major diseases.
23. describe, how do you look like? describe your overall appearance
ans. height may be 5, weight 47, normal body, fair color.
24. (only for females)
please answer the following questions:
(please give details of your past menstruation if you have attained menopause.)
- are the periods early, regular or late in general? how long do they last?
ans. every month comes late 4 to 10 days.
- do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
ans. before: pain in the body, irritation,weakness.
during: normal feeling
after: normal feeling
- is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
ans. normal flow
- is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
ans. red or black combination.
- do you notice any clots in the flow?
ans. yes there is clots in the flow.
1. describe your main suffering?
ans. did not getting pregnant naturally, fetus heart activity absent both time,miss abortion in starting of 3rd month both time.
2. what other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
ans.feeling fever when wake up, allergy with dust,
3. what mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
ans. normal feeling
4. what exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
ans. feel hot & cold when fever come.
5. when did it all start? can you connect it to any past event or disease?
ans. no any past event.
6. which time of the day you are worst?
ans. fever in the morning.
7. what are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
ans. dust aggravate cough & runny nose.
8. do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
ans. no i don't think.
9. when do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
ans. i like cold weather.weather did not aggravate symptoms
10. describe your general mental set up? are you moody, arrogant, mild, agreeable changeable, nervous, suspicious, easily offended, quiet, arguing, irritating, lazy etc.
ans. quiet nature, nervous about house work like food test etc.
- how do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
ans. before feel normal during some fear i think that is normal.
- do you like being consoled during your tough times?
ans. i like being consoled.
- are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
ans. no
- do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
ans. no
- how do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
ans. i think family members be with together otherwise family nice, i think husband always be with me,understand me,support me otherwise husband is good person.
11. what are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
ans. fear that husband don't leave me alone.
12. what do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
ans. crave= testy (chat pata),fry item.
aversion= lady finger.
13. how is your thirst: less, normal or excessive?
ans. normal
14. how if your hunger: less, normal or excessive?
ans. normal
15. is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
ans. when i eat peanut(moongphali) desire to itching in side the chest.
16. is your sweat normal or less or more? where does it sweat more: head, trunk or limbs?
ans. sweat normal but more sweat in arm pit, when i walk sweat come on back.
17. how is your bowel movement and stool type?
ans. bowel movement 2 time a day first after wake up 2nd after lunch, stool type normal.
18. how well do you sleep? do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
ans. sleep is good, i like to sleep right side.
19. do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
ans. yes i am satisfied.
20. how do you think you are different from others, if at all?
ans. not at all.
21. what medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
ans. for getting pregnant= ovashield, ecosprine, folic acid.
after pregnancy= maintain injection,duphaston, injection hucog 5000 iu for egg rupture .
22. what major diseases are running in your family?
ans. no any major diseases.
23. describe, how do you look like? describe your overall appearance
ans. height may be 5, weight 47, normal body, fair color.
24. (only for females)
please answer the following questions:
(please give details of your past menstruation if you have attained menopause.)
- are the periods early, regular or late in general? how long do they last?
ans. every month comes late 4 to 10 days.
- do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
ans. before: pain in the body, irritation,weakness.
during: normal feeling
after: normal feeling
- is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
ans. normal flow
- is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
ans. red or black combination.
- do you notice any clots in the flow?
ans. yes there is clots in the flow.
mariz 8 years ago
Dear Mariz:
First of all, sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately, the questionnaire was badly filled and hardly provide any information to prescribe her constitutionally.
You may think of re-writing the answers, based on which I will asking further questions.
For the time being you may give her a single dose of Thuja 200 to cover-up of sabina over dosing.
If you are aware of homeopathy, small things matters. Not providing enough information do not help the homeopath and of course leads to wrong selection of the remedy.
Regards,
First of all, sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately, the questionnaire was badly filled and hardly provide any information to prescribe her constitutionally.
You may think of re-writing the answers, based on which I will asking further questions.
For the time being you may give her a single dose of Thuja 200 to cover-up of sabina over dosing.
If you are aware of homeopathy, small things matters. Not providing enough information do not help the homeopath and of course leads to wrong selection of the remedy.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
For instance:
6. which time of the day you are worst?
ans. fever in the morning.
It don't help unless you provide complete info. How much is the fever, how she feels, did she consult any doctor for it etc etc.
Regards,
6. which time of the day you are worst?
ans. fever in the morning.
It don't help unless you provide complete info. How much is the fever, how she feels, did she consult any doctor for it etc etc.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
respected doctor
that is full information as she told me i reply to you she is saying that set, she has no any other problem instead of i already reply...like
1. she has problem regarding pregnancy and miss abortion and there is no worst in that and about fever she feels fever when wake up and after fever go back there is no worst.mentally she has no problem she is always happy and no any worry, when she at worst she only feel fever there is no any worst about fever...
that is full information as she told me i reply to you she is saying that set, she has no any other problem instead of i already reply...like
1. she has problem regarding pregnancy and miss abortion and there is no worst in that and about fever she feels fever when wake up and after fever go back there is no worst.mentally she has no problem she is always happy and no any worry, when she at worst she only feel fever there is no any worst about fever...
mariz 8 years ago
mani_jee 8 years ago
ok....please also tell me how many drops in a sip of water, in which time a day like morning,evening, afternoon, and what food should avoid after taking thuja, and how many days after should i update to you....
[message edited by mariz on Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:52:10 UTC]
[message edited by mariz on Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:52:10 UTC]
mariz 8 years ago
2 drops in 2 teasepone of water, sip up slowly. Preferable time is before going to bed.
Update after 1 week.
Avoid coffee.
Regards,
Update after 1 week.
Avoid coffee.
Regards,
mani_jee 8 years ago
respected doctor
1 week completed after taking thuja 200, there is no any changes only she is feeling dry lips but no thirst and first 2 to 3 days she was difficulty falling asleep but not now, her last month periods was started on 03/08/15 but this month period still not started, one more symptoms i forgot that after 1st abortion she is feeling lower back pain...please advise further treatment
Thanks
1 week completed after taking thuja 200, there is no any changes only she is feeling dry lips but no thirst and first 2 to 3 days she was difficulty falling asleep but not now, her last month periods was started on 03/08/15 but this month period still not started, one more symptoms i forgot that after 1st abortion she is feeling lower back pain...please advise further treatment
Thanks
mariz 8 years ago
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