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Back pain due to disc bulge

My son has disc prolapse I gave him Kali carbonicum 200 three times a single day as suggested in the forum and Remedy Finder. There is relief. I hope it gets all right. Should I repeat the dose? If yes when?
  Ruchira on 2016-09-26
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Who suggested it?

What are the symptoms? What improvements are seen after Kali carb?

What is his age? What caused it? When was the problem diagnosed?

Any other symptoms unrelated to this problem?
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Found it from Remedy Finder. My son is 24 year old. He got the pain while doing some exercise in the gym. The pain was unbearable. MRI was done which showed disc bulge in L 4- L 5. Tried Arnica, Bryonia, Ruta, Ballis Pere . Nothing helped. He was advised epidural injection which I know is a steroid I wanted to avoid. Then I tried Remedy Finder here and read a suggestion in the forum . Gave Kali Carb 200 after stopping all medication yesterday. Today he has less pain
Ruchira 5 years ago
You need to elaborate more than that.

How old is the injury?

What is the location of pain? What sort of pain? Is it one area only or does it radiate to other parts?

Any other symptoms unrelated to back pain, observed after the injury.

You can wait and watch as long as the pain is becoming less. Don't give any further doses.

Come back with details for further follow up.
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
The injury happened in April 2016. The pain was localised at the lower back. After consulting a spine specialist with medication pain was gone. My son is a civil engineer has to be on site walk and climb a lot. The pain resurfaced 15 days back . Now it was from lower back on the left till the calf , worsened with movement . A family doc suggested Arnica 1m, nothing happened then Bryonia, Ruta. I tried Remedy Finder and read a few posts. Kali carb 200 matched the symptoms. His pain is less now. Thanks.
Ruchira 5 years ago
Does he feel better if pressure is applied to the affected area?

Does it increase when he sits erect/ stands for a long time?

Does it increase while walking?
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
great move ruchira,

if your son is improvement,then try high potency ,it will cure him permanently.
nisha301 5 years ago
Hi Nisha

Repetition or change to higher potency is warranted only when the improvement reaches a plateau.

I too know Ruchira made a good choice. I asked some questions to confirm the medicine.

Please have patience till she answers the questions. Later on, you can give your opinions.

gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Hi. Thanks Nisha and Mr. Murthy. Yes it pains when he puts pressure or sits erect for long or walks. It pains if he moves his legs forward or backward. He is not taking any other medicine. After taking Kali carb 200 there is a marked improvement. But he complains of pain at night. Pain is maximum when he moves to a side while sleeping.Plz advise.
Ruchira 5 years ago
He is able to do his routine work though, but is on leave from office till next Wednesday. Hot water bag helps at night. Thanks.
Ruchira 5 years ago
He is able to move about at home and is able to do routine work. Pain has subsided but not gone completely. He is on leave from office till next Wednesday . Thanks for the concern .
Ruchira 5 years ago
Fine Ruchira

You chose the correct medicine.

To hasten the cure we will put him on water dose.

Mix 4 pellets/ 2 drops in about 30 ml. Of water, thoroughly with a spoon. Give him a tablespoon as a dose in the morning.

Mix the balance again thoroughly, and give in the evening.

Prepare the medicine in a similar way, the next day, but mix for longer time. Say 20 times. Give the balance in the evening.

When you make the medicine, the third day, mix 30 times..you must increase the mixing time progressively for each new dose made..slightly more than the previous dose.

The progressive increase in mixing time, alters the potency slightly and leads to a gentle, faster cure.

Stop after three days and report back. In case there is any change in his condition, other than progressive improvement, report at once.

All the best.
[message edited by gavinimurthy on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:25:59 UTC]
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Murthy Sir, should he avoid drinking coffee on these days?? Heard coffee works as an antidote !! What precautions must he take??
Ruchira 5 years ago
Not necessary. He can take everything including coffee.

Generally, homeopathic medicines get antidoted by strong odors. That is why the general norm is not to take any spicy food/ coffee etc half an before and after the medicine.

I always say

No odors on you(perfumes etc), around you( room fresheners/ camphor fumes/ incense sticks etc) and in your mouth while taking the medicine.

You can take normal food, coffee etc after half an hour. No problem.
[message edited by gavinimurthy on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:55:36 UTC]
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Don't store the balance water in fridge. Keep it in the room, covering it with a lid. Of course, away from odors.

Use new glass and spoon and use them only for medicine.
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Murthy sir I gave my son the first day dose of water dose. Do you think he will require physiotherapy after this??
Ruchira 5 years ago
May not be required. Let us review after a week.
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Thanks a lot Murthy sir, pain is almost gone. But he is still not giving any strain to his back. Sometimes at night he says it pains. But a lot less than before, today is the last day of water dose. What should I do now?? Plz guide. God bless you.
Ruchira 5 years ago
You can continue for 3 more days in a similar way, and see if the remaining occasional pain at night too goes away.

Remember that you have to increase the mixing time progressively. You have to start with stirring 40 times for the 4 th dose..
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
From Ruchira on 3rd oct

Murthy sir today is the 6th day of water dose , he has a relief of say 80% . I have been giving my son Kali carb 200. Now what??
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
You are telling that the recent dose of Kali carb didn't have much effect.

Do you feel his condition worsened slightly or stable?

Confirm. Also give the symptoms once again. Is he free of pain during day time, and with normal activities?

Is the pain occasional only in bed?

Give full set of symptoms as if you are seeking advice afresh.
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Murthy sir was unable to find the thread so opened a new one sorry. Of course there is remarkable relief, but he is not walking normally . Walks slowly bending slightly to the left . No pain during day. But sometimes at night and he does not feel fit to resume his office. I told you he is a civil engineer, his work requires a lot of walking, climbing, standing. Say for 3 to 4 hours. So wanted to know the future course of action. Thanks a lot.
Ruchira 5 years ago
Too much rest complicates the problem. If, there is no pain during day, why is he not going to duty?

He can walk with the support of a cane, for a few days if required.

On one side, you are telling he is better and on the other, you say he is not yet fit to resume duty.

Can you please explain why he doesn't feel fit?
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
He used to feel pain even while resting. Now that's gone.At home he is normally doing his activities. I don't help. But it's painful if he walks for long.Can't brisk walk. Cannot stand for too long.
Ruchira 5 years ago
I think, you were right that he needs physiotherapy.

Please take him to a good physiotherapist. No more medicines for a couple of days.

Please come back after three days, and report his condition.
gavinimurthy 5 years ago
Thanks Murthy sir, I will take him to a physiotherapist today only. Will report after three days.
Ruchira 5 years ago

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