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Cannabis induced Psychosis

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I am a25 year old Electrical Engineer based in India.I was browsing Google when I came across your website and I had to write to you as I thought this is a blessing from God.first of all let me clarify I am currently unemployed and not in a condition to afford you treatment from here.But I write to you in a hope of helping myself from a mess which is my making. Please do take a look at this Health history and details about me.

In 2010 I joined My graduation college in the field of Electrical Enggg.I was ragged and bullied by my classmates very hard as a result I started smoking and Drinking .
Up until the time when my friends took me to a place when they fired up a Joint .It was my first time .when I took a few puffs nothing happened initially but after 5 minutes I got stuck like a statue with my entire body getting feeling of Electric shock and I tried closing my fists but I coudnt ,my friends showed me by closing my fingers but I coudnt do it myself just like getting paralysed .After sometime I became neutral and friends dropped me home where I felt intense thirst and hunger and munched on anything I got. Head felt heavy.
This day was the start of my psychiatric problems I thought that day that I will die.
I told home everything and I developed intense anxiety ,fear of death and developed depression for which I was prescribed SSRIs which I took for next 5 years and I completed my education. But I felt dull and lethargic as a result I thought I should stop the medications and I stopped it few years back.
I worked in a college as a professor and I was pretty good at my job but it was contractual. My contract ended this June 2018 and I am home since .
I have the same anxiety now
With fear of death, fear by chronic disease great hypochondriacal symptoms
I also have Suicidal OCD although I am not interested in that option and I tend to develop this OCD when I am idle and without a job .
I am very much into researching everything around me. I am fascinated by homeopathy and I read and obsessively over it
I get angered fast and if I get into a fight or argument I can't forget the incident easily and obsessively think on it.
I corelate everybody else's tragedy's to myself .example one of our doctors committed suicide so I started thinking even I Might .
I have a sharp memory and recall bad events in past with great clarity and feel depressed and great self pitty on myself.
I usually don't cry but I cry sometimes when. I feel helpless and self pity of being a mental patient.
I love sweets and hate spicy food
Anything that I eat causes acidity and gas and great stomach discomfort with GERD sometimes.
I have burning sensation in belly region after I eat food .it worsens after having water even after having it 1 hour after meal.
I like milk shakes ice cream and prefer cold drinks rather than hot drinks.
My grandfather passed away 3 months back and I cried like never before .
I drool when I sleep sometimes and masturbate twice a day daily for past so many years. I have habbit of drinking water before going to bed.
I am also sleep late and need to listen to either music or a documentary before sleeping.
I play Indian Classical harmonium as well.
I like to help people
I don't socialize easily but once I start talking I am very talkative and humorous.
Ive not gotten into a single relationship yet,i am scared of commitment.

I was a very naughty ,active intelligent and outspoken person but after the drug incident I have got all these illness

From 2Months I am under homeopathy treatment with sulphur ,nux vomica ,China q and natrum sulf. With this treatment I am having a roller coaster of emotional feelings and mental feelings and suddenly I am active suddenly I am anxious ,suddenly there is fear and then calm.

Please help
 
  Shrey on 2019-04-03
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
First you should take Cannabis Indica 30 twice a day. After that there might be change in your overall symptom.
And based on that we may proceed further.
 
sunshine15 8 months ago
Hi,

What do you mean you are under homeopathic
Treatment? Are you seeing a homeopath face to face?
Are you working with a homeopath online?

What are the potencies of the remedies other than
China q? <br>
What is the dosing schedule of all of these?

Each person has their unique reactions to remedies.
Dosing and potency are stopped, changed,
Based on individual reactions. And if one is taking
Several remedies, no one can tell what is doing what.
What is too much, too little, causing unwanted aggravation
Of old symptoms and causing new accessory
Symptoms of the remedy(see materia medica of
Any remedy) due to overdosing.
 
simone717 8 months ago
And please specify whether you took Hemp or Hasish?
 
sunshine15 8 months ago
I was seeing a homeopath personally but he didn't care about what I wanted to tell rather stuck to his own ..he said I have anxiety neurosis OCD anxiety and all which made me very scared. One of my friends told me that I have a drug induced problem which can be reversed.
 
Shrey 8 months ago
The Doctor didn't mention potencies on prescription..all I can tell is I took sulphur nux vom China q and natrum sulf for 1 and half months continuously 3 times a day all of them.
 
Shrey 8 months ago
Shrey

I told you to take the Homoeopathic preparation of Cannabis be it Indica(Hashish) or Sativa(Hemp) ignoring your other symptoms because the starting point of your problem was when you induced Cannabis in your system.
And this Cannabis was like the trigger point to all this problems. So many a time we give the Homoeopathic preparation of the same thing in order to reverse the thing that was started.
I am not forcing you to take it but its a way that has produced good results varying in degrees.
 
sunshine15 8 months ago
Yes definitely I will try it.
 
Shrey 8 months ago
As for the other remedy based on your symptoms I would prescribe:'
Natrum Mur 200 once on alternate days.
And
Aurum Metallicum 30 thrice a day.

Note:If you want other prescriber here to have a look into your case then go ahead because surfing around the forum I sense that many patients in order not to offend the prescriber keep continuing. And I think they should speak up. There is nothing to offend or get offended.
 
sunshine15 8 months ago
Hi shrey,

I would advise you NOT to take what sunshine
Has suggested.

1. First one does not take the exact similar
Of what caused a problem. That is not correct
Homeopathic prescribing. For instance, people
Who take candida remedy after diagnosed with
Candida, usually just get more candida.

Your problem was caused by the shock of what
Happened. The substance wore off but the shock
Remained. Basically you had a panic attack after
It wore off . Panic attacks that are not explained
Usually result in more fear, panic, anxiety, depression
Etc.

Each of those things then adds on more stress
- you have had a lot of antidepressants in your

System and taking a huge amount of remedies
Lately.

2. Taking Nat mur and Aurum multiple times
Is wrong. People can have reactions to Nat mur
200 for weeks - after one dose , and feel very spaced out.
You are very sensitive and you need to do ONE
Thing at a time.

3. I suggest that you have to wait for 2 weeks,
To let what you have taken play out. You have
Had too much.

4. After two weeks, see what symptoms are there.
Report them on this thread.

5. The correct way to prescribe is to match
Your symptoms with a SIMILAR remedy.
Take one or two doses, and watch the reaction.
The reaction will then indicate when to dose
Again and if the remedy is a good match.

Do not jump from the frying pan into the fire-
Which is what will happen if you take cannabis !
Or the other remedies.
[Edited by simone717 on 2019-04-03 21:30:50]
 
simone717 8 months ago
simone717 said Hi shrey,

I would advise you NOT to take what sunshine
Has suggested.

1. First one does not take the exact similar
Of what caused a problem. That is not correct
Homeopathic prescribing. For instance, people
Who take candida remedy after diagnosed with
Candida, usually just get more candida.

Your problem was caused by the shock of what
Happened. The substance wore off but the shock
Remained. Basically you had a panic attack after
It wore off . Panic attacks that are not explained
Usually result in more fear, panic, anxiety, depression
Etc.

Each of those things then adds on more stress
- you have had a lot of antidepressants in your

System and taking a huge amount of remedies
Lately.

2. Taking Nat mur and Aurum multiple times
Is wrong. People can have reactions to Nat mur
200 for weeks - after one dose , and feel very spaced out.
You are very sensitive and you need to do ONE
Thing at a time.

3. I suggest that you have to wait for 2 weeks,
To let what you have taken play out. You have
Had too much.

4. After two weeks, see what symptoms are there.
Report them on this thread.

5. The correct way to prescribe is to match
Your symptoms with a SIMILAR remedy.
Take one or two doses, and watch the reaction.
The reaction will then indicate when to dose
Again and if the remedy is a good match.

Do not jump from the frying pan into the fire-
Which is what will happen if you take cannabis !
Or the other remedies.




Simon

1. I rarely reply to such misadventures but I find it really Intriguing of how the intake of a 'Homoeopathic Dilution' of ANY substance will Increase its "Quantity" in the person concerned based on your delusional analogy of Candida. Hope you know the basics of "Succussion" and "potentization". It Never happens. Don't know which book you are reading. Change the author.

Problem was Not caused by 'Shock' per se. Instead the Body's inability to cope up with the substance ingested which in turn made 'Subtle' changes in his overall psyche.

2. Even one single dose of Natrum Mur 6 or even the short acting remedy Aconite single dose may pose serious aggravations. Hope you knew something about Vital force. It would have helped here.

3,4. What is two weeks and what he have taken TOO much.

5. Seems you know too much but I can't infer what!

My convo with you is over here.

I leave it to Shrey to decide. He said he is inquisitive. Its upto him. I ain't forcing him. And you too should not force him the other way round.
I have seen people here referring prescriber as 'Dr.' And these same 'doctors' are just opening a small dispensary in the patients home by prescribing loads of remedies without any proper study of the case.
I would like the moderator to refrain the use of word Dr. here as its most of the time misleading to people and at the same time kind of off rules.
[Edited by sunshine15 on 2019-04-03 22:08:27]
 
sunshine15 8 months ago
Sunshine-

I will let the moderator respond to you-
About your reply and about the use of “dr”

I totally disagree with you about cause-
As I have dealt with many , many cases of
This happening in my work as a counselor
To young adults.

You only just joined here, and I have been on
Here for years and Seen cases of candida
Come on here worsened by taking many doses
Of candida to cure it. Anyway, forum members
Are asked to respond when they think advice
Can be harmful .
 
simone717 8 months ago
Hi Simon
I agree with your posts on the this thread
Just to share my thoughts
A small dose of Cannabis smoked cud have aggravated symptoms he was always carrying in his mind and body if it can be concluded which remedy and what potency to be suggested for a single dose treatment
Food for thought
 
Kapsdquack 8 months ago
Hi K,

I understand what you are saying and if one
Could go back to that time with accuracy???
Yes, that would be good- but I would not open
The case like that, as he has had years of
Anti depressants and has been taking many doses
Of 3 remedies in the last month.

I suggest- let’s see what symptoms are there
After a couple weeks, when these recent remedies
Have worn off some. Then retake the case
And prescribe the remedy that matches the
Present symptoms in real time.
 
simone717 8 months ago
Just sharing in case anybody comes across a similar case which is fresh
 
Kapsdquack 8 months ago
I totally agree with Sunshine posts.
For example we tend to give Arsenic album in various potency to people who are severely affected by Groundwater contamination by Arsenic. And it has always produced wonderful result in the overall health of the patients.
 
Soul_Spirit 8 months ago
Arsenic levels stay IN the body and have to be
Safely detoxed and it takes time to detox. This person had cannabis once
Years ago and it is not in his body after all this time.
What he had was a bad reaction which caused
Shock and panic , which then escalated because
He did not understand what was going on.
 
simone717 8 months ago
Cannabis Indica won’t help as it’s been long he smoked some marijuana
He does not have any symptoms of Cannabis Indica the typical ones
 
Kapsdquack 8 months ago
I totally agree with you that he doesn't have any symptoms of Cannabis. But as a homoeopath unlike allopathic principle we sometime tend to find the root cause that brought about the change in someone psyche which in turn affects the being as a whole. Just as someone starts narrating his symptoms and we come to know that he was abused as child. Then we tend to focus on that particular incident more wrt his whole symptamology.
Though he/she is not abused at this particular moment but that abuse in his childhood acts as base/trigger point that changes his whole psychology/anatomy. And we tend to see its effect on his body as diseases in the long run. So many a time we give Remedies focusing on that particulars of childhood ignoring the present symptoms. And tend to give other remedies if there is any need. But most of the times that single remedy clears the case in the long run.
 
Soul_Spirit 8 months ago
Hi soul-spirit,

I agree with you. However, I think each case
Has to be evaluated as to what approach to
Be taken.

Sometimes, the case needs to be done in layers
And one gets cured that way. Many people are just
Naturally highly sensitive and Or have some other
Physical issue with their immune system( like gut
Or liver not working well) and they do not tolerate
Drugs( western medicine) or recreational drugs
Well. Especially young people, who do not understand
How the body/mind works and they think they are
Going crazy and need to talk to someone who
Can guide them.

I have seen this panic/ anxiety/ depression/ o c d
Behavior come about not only from pot, lsd, and other drugs,
But from taking Flonase prescribed nose spray ,
From taking Cipro ( antibiotic) from taking supplements ( to get
Muscles) In each case, the person began feeling
Disassociated from their body and then went into
Panic - even after the drugs wore off which could take weeks.

After the substances were clear of the body, any
Twinge of being nervous or upset would trigger
The panic reaction again. These people needed
Education to understand how the body will retrigger
Trauma reactions because that is how the lower
Brain works.

Whether the person was abused or not abused,
Is not the first thing to address. The first thing to
Help is try to get the substance out of the body,
And to explain how panic reactions work, and
They can be managed and they will fade out.
[Edited by simone717 on 2019-04-04 16:38:26]
 
simone717 8 months ago
I wish to add in continuation of my above post that its not always the case that we take into consideration the trauma or some important incident/event that occurred in the past. We have to evaluate deeply does that incident really impacted him so deep that it resulted in the present condition over the years. Sometimes that trigger point is the most important key and sometimes it just takes a small place in the symptoms as a whole but it can't be ignored and have to be evaluated from different angles. The revealed symptoms are just the indications to the unrevealed.
 
Soul_Spirit 8 months ago
I agree. But.. if you can link the panic attack issue
With onset of taking a drug or substance, or onset
After a shocking life event( Ignatia is known to
Have effects if taken early enough- that keep the memory storage
Neutral. The memories are stored as normal memories,instead
Of being coated with stress chemicals which set up the panic route
In the brain)

The panic issue takes on a well known route,
That escalates and if a person is educated on
How it works, it loses its power and grip. For instance,
I had a client who was trapped in a crowded bus
During an earthquake. Soon after, he was cancelling
His business airplane flights. The close quarters
Of the airplane set off the body recognition of
The trapped bus. Once he understood this, he was able to
Calm his body and keep flying- then the panic
Faded to zero. If he had not been educated he
Would probably be a lifelong Xanax user.

This lower brain set up is not well understood,
Which is why so many PTSD military and war
Refugees suffer. Recently, there was a paper
Out by scientists, finding that triggering trauma
Memories, and then giving propafol anesthetic-
Somehow erased the trauma memory storage
Area and left the memories as neutral.They do not know why
But are doing more studies.
[Edited by simone717 on 2019-04-04 19:31:30]
 
simone717 8 months ago
I fully agree with you if you see my first post on this thread
You shud know that then the potency if you want to try Cannabis Indica
The potency has to be higher not below 1M
Since you feel so strongly so that the patient is cured fast without aggravation of the symptoms since the symptoms started with smoking cannabis and are very old
Good approach
If it fails god forbid we ll try conventional approach
 
Kapsdquack 8 months ago
To be clear:

I think cannabis is the wrong remedy and will
Aggravate the patient and has risk of re-traumatizing
Him.

He is right now aggravating from taking 3 remedies
A day,for 6 weeks. He needs to stop taking them
And see what symptoms remain after two weeks.

Sometimes , due to English translation, things get
Confused.

In my earlier post, I was explaining, that if a person
Is educated , EARLY after experiencing shock or
Panic— they can learn to manage and de-escalate
The panic syndrome.

If they do not understand the mechanics of panic,
The syndrome builds more and more triggers
- so If caught EARLY-it is like destroying a bad house foundation-
Once panic gets entrenched with more triggers,
It is then similar to destroying a multiple story
Building - healing goes in layers and support
And counseling by someone who is experienced
In panic mechanics will be very useful.

There are many psychiatrists and therapists out there
Who do not understand how to treat this. They just
Hand out the antidepressants which further causes
More side effects and not feeling like you are you.
People need to find therapists who specialize
In desensitizing effects of panic. The good news for people
Reading this- YOU can feel like yourself again-
You never lose yourself- ever. It’s just a matter
Of stopping the triggers , which release adrenaline
And other stress chemicals.
[Edited by simone717 on 2019-04-05 15:51:22]
 
simone717 8 months ago
well brought out Simone I feel we shud have a forum where only practitioners shud be able to discuss amongst themselves
We have wasted three days and the patient is reading all this
I suggested a higher potency since soul_spirit was convinced that Cannabis Indica is the remedy and thought in case it is to be administered that is the way and only one dose will prove right or wrong remedy fully understanding that smoking that has just triggered it his nurturing those feelings and thoughts has brought him to this state.
And I mentioned it as a food for thought.
Soul_spirit should have prescribed or asked for a feed back by now
 
Kapsdquack 8 months ago
Hi,
I hope the patient follows my advice.
He has to wait to see what his state is after taking multiple remedies for 6 weeks from his real homeopath. I do not feel
Time has been wasted because what he has been taking is having
Effects/aggravation and one has to see what the result will be.
 
simone717 8 months ago

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