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Repeating or increasing doses

Hi I am just wondering

If I took a remedy in the past (over a year ago) and I found it helped my symptoms, but only very short term (for ~1-3 weeks) is it a good idea to take the dose again? or a higher dose of the same thing?

I am thinking of taking Sepia again, because it helped me before, but I dont want to use it wrong.

I was wondering if I should try a higher dose? I took 30c a year or 2 ago.

Thank you
  pclin on 2019-07-23
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
What happened after the 3 weeks?

You are not giving enough information to get
A good answer.
simone717 3 years ago
I think after the 3 weeks my symptoms returned.

Feeling low and unhappy to be left behind, feeling taken for granted, focusing on the negative.

I remember taking sepia and after a couple days feeling so much lighter and more fun. I was seeing the beauty again and feeling appreciated. I think I felt like myself for a bit after taking it.
Of course It could have been something else going right for a short period, could have even been the weather (!?!), I am not sure.....but I have always kept sepia in my mind and wanted to try taking it again to see if it would give me the same uplifted feelings I experienced before.
But I am not sure to take 30c again or a higher potency.... or... if it stopped working was it not right for me?

I just dont want to make anything worse... and I remember reading something about the right remedy not needing to be continously repeated?

Thank you
pclin 3 years ago

Not a higher dose, take another dose of 30c.

Doses and potency depend on the response
Of the person. Each person will be different.

You had a good response. You then take another
Dose when you feel the remedy has stopped
Working or old symptoms have returned.

As far as old things returning- I do Not mean
Soon after taking a dose- because that is usually aggravation
And one has to wait for it to recede and then see
If improvement comes.

You do not go up to higher potency until you
Feel no results from this potency.
simone717 3 years ago
Just an input---For sulph, sepia, Hepar sulph, one need not go up a step in potency scale soon--they can be repeated a few cycles before one needs to go up.
maheeru 3 years ago
I was helping a woman on here some years back-
Her chronic remedy was sepia. She started with
30c a few times a week and gradually once every few weeks
And then no more doses were needed. 30c worked
Fine, and she took this over 6 to 8 months.

The point is, if one is sensitive, and 30c is working,
And the gaps of needing it are longer and longer?
Keep using that potency.
simone717 3 years ago
Academically you are right Simone(every potency should be exhausted to the maximum point till it no longer works). But prescribers have different preferences. Some won't repeat more than one dose, some won't repeat more than three doses-- everyone will have some reason that could be supported by classical sources. My earlier post also comes from Hahnemann himself. He talks about repeating these three remedies to the exclusion of other anti-psorics.
[Edited by maheeru on 2019-07-23 18:56:56]
maheeru 3 years ago
That is why I follow dr luc. He starts with 30c
Then observes after 48 hours. If Remedy has
Effect- good or bad. He waits. Once determined
Remedy is a good match, he determines repeat
Doses by how Long effects last. He says one
Can always go up or down in potency if needed
After observing. I just find his method to be
Common sense! Because it is based on the actual
Reactions of each person- not something from
A book .
simone717 3 years ago
We are on same page about repeating sepia here. So I don't see any need to argue further.

Aren't you following Luc based on a 'book'?

Every good homeopath's book is made up of carefully collated experiences and gems of hidden wisdom. Ignore such wisdom at one's own peril!
maheeru 3 years ago
Thank you both so much for sharing your knowledge and advice with me!! I appreciate it so much and I will try taking the Sepia 30 again. since it was at least a year ago (cant remember if it was last summer or the year before) do you think I should buy new stuff or would it still be good? It has been stored in my medicine cabinet sealed in its original jar.

Thanks again!
pclin 3 years ago
Homeopathic medicines can be used for years unless they have gone bad. If you see no change, which isn't to be expected on the medicine or the container, then it's safe for consumption.

Welcome :)
maheeru 3 years ago
Thank you!! I will take a dose tonight!
pclin 3 years ago
Hi Maheeru- dr luc advice is to test dose first
And then observe yourself what is going on-
With that dose. I think that is different than
Having blanket rules like all chronic illness should start with 1m (

Sankaran) And many others on dosing and potency
And it always puzzled me about all the different
“Rules” from various famous homeopaths.I am not arguing
, just venting.
[Edited by simone717 on 2019-07-23 22:43:34]
simone717 3 years ago
Ok pclin

You can get follow-up advice from Simone. I did not intend to take the case over :) Just gave an input. All the best for your health.
maheeru 3 years ago

We have to live with the strange state of affairs. We have a huge element of subjectivity in homeopathy. We can not have hard and fast rules.

Different authors, different ideas, different propositions. We need to respect the diversity even if we don't agree with most of the things because there are more ways to achieve results. May be a few things need exclusive road maps but for most things a flexible approach would do.

There is even an approach called Zig zag prescribing. Using partial similars to take the case forward. Even master homeopaths in those days were following this, because in earlier days, proved medicines weren't that many--they had to juggle with the available remedies. One homeopath said, he used to prescribe Ars. Alb for all his Phosphorus cases before Phosphorus found it's place in Materia Medica. Still they had results, that's one reason why homeopathy lives through the masses---zig zag prescribing is close to self-medication even when the medicine is not a perfectly similar one.

Sankaran's a great homeopath. With that advice of 1M in chronic diseases we can not discount his contribution/skills. There is a basic difference in school of thought. One was Hughesian, another was Kentian propagated by Blackie. Hughesian school never went beyond 30 and kentian school never went below 1M/10M.

I saw a Jitesh post where he said he would only use upto 30c because Hahneman never used beyond 30c. It's not accurate. Hahneman's paris diaries show he was experimenting with 50c. During Hahnemann's life time other homeopaths were using upto 100c. Then things started to change. kentian school found that higher and higher potencies helped them cure with single doses and going upwards of 1M helped them touch the person in a holistic manner. But both approaches have limitations and advantages and a wise learner needs to adopt both so that they can be used appropriately to get very good results. One should not use a crowbar in place of a needle and vice versa because then the effects would not be desirable.

Dr. J.T Kent is considered a very successful homeopath with his success rate falling around 75--80%. Somebody wondered would his success rate cross 100% had he used lower potencies, wet doses and LMs in appropriate places? One could only imagine. He was such an AWESOME homeopath and used exclusively higher and higher potencies.
maheeru 3 years ago
Thanks for the post- it is even more confusing
Than I was aware of.
simone717 3 years ago
No intention to confuse you or anyone else. Personally whenever I've felt confused, bogged down or overwhelming coming across these -schisms, I have consciously tried to stay away from all this. It's easy for me because I don't believe in cults---homeopathy is just a tool for me to help other beings. This won't be the same for others.

If you are comfortable with dr. Luc's way of doing things, fine, he is considered an authority on later editions of organon and is considered Hahnemannian. Everyone needs to stick with an approach that is close to them, that is easy to understand and work with. I think when Luc talks about test dose, using 30c, going from there and all really practical sense that really holds value for beginners and those who try to self-medicate. It's very linear, no brainer approach could even be considered text-bookish--a safe approach. But many other authors do not write for common or lay people. They simply write for their peers, fellow doctors so they don't keep to basics, safe things. In any discipline, after slogging for years, people would grow to a stage, where they will be in a place from where they would be able to see things in a different perspective, define things with a new look and be able to find short cuts to accomplish things. So authors talk about those things that make their tedious work simple and easy with pride--these things may be new or old wine in a new bottle. They may be unsafe to try for beginners and novices in certain cases but might work and may be the only choice available to give relief in some cases where other methods fail!

Books are great resources. That is the only way one can get access to great and brilliant minds from the past---reading books is like having a chat with other minds. Like with anything, it's how one is going to use the knowledge from the books matters the most.
maheeru 3 years ago

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