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whats the best way to take homeopathic remedies to get relief

I think homeopaths consider the good way to taking homeopathic remedies is by putting some drops in water but i have tried this way with lot of remedies ,the results are almost the same it aggravated and aggravated-the more i redose it.

The aggravations that happens to me are very severe and when i cant resist it after trying it for no of times so i have to stop them.

I dont know whats wrong with me while taking homeopathic medicines, For e.g- I tried argentium -nitricum 200c -3 drops in water( for depression and anxiety problems) but it gave me a severe aggravation and if it take directly 3 drops on my tounge, i have close my mouth for literally 15 minutes or half hour to get some relief , if i talk just after taking drops orally- it aggravated and so is same with all other homeopathic medicines i have tried.

I know some Dr's(homeopaths),read on internet that aggravation is a good sign but when the aggravtion is getting severer and sevrere by taking more doses of that remedy- well my patience just ran off and then i have no other way but to stop it.

Could anyone here knows effective and some other way to take homeopathic medicines so they can just give me relief.
 
  raja4 on 2006-04-14
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
There are some good guidelines in these two articles:

http://www.hpathy.com/papersnew/lewis-faq-homeopathy.asp

http://www.hpathy.com/papersnew/lewis-faq-homeopathy2.asp
 
Daisy43 last decade
The FAQ's mentioned under the links you have given are great to read for understanding ,how homoepathy works.

But i am a layman(CORRECT ME WHERE EVER I AM WRONG) ,so what i understand by it is- add around 2-3 drops of the selected remedy in water and then as a first dose ,i take a sip out of it and next time if i have to take it second time then i have to succuss the remedy 10 times and so and so with increase in redosing myself.

If by the very first sip i get aggravation and if it fades away with in 24 hours and after that gives some sort of relif on mental and physical aspect, then whenever i am feeling that my compliant is getting worse then again take another dose by succussing it-
MY QUESTION HERE IS IF I TAKE THE FIRST DOSE BY METHOD MENTIONED ABOVE AND WHEN AGGRAVATION CAUSED BY IT FADES AWAY WITHOUT FELLING ANY CHANGE IN MY PROBLEM , THEN EVEN AFTER TAKING THE SECOND DOSE AFTER SUCCUSSING IT 10 TIMES ,I FEEL THE SAME OR MORE AGGRAVATION OF THE SYMPTOMS- WHAT SHOULD I DO THEN.
 
raja4 last decade
remedy most like is only partial homoeopahic to case symptomology....stop meds reatake case--and access...if need help then post case info..
 
John Stanton last decade
I am copying my post on another thread on;
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/56712/

which will give members more information about the Liquid and Split doses which are more effective than the dry dose that the majority of homeopaths use today.



Re: Dr. Luc's split method: can someone pls explain this mode of taking the remedies? From Joe De Livera on 2006-04-05
The majority of Homeopaths prescribe remedies in little lactose pellets which have become the standard method of using Homeopathic remedies. These pellets are activated in the process of manufacture by the potentized remedy in Ethanol being dripped on them, just sufficient to dampen them slightly. These pellets are then put into plastic containers which are sold in Homeopathic Pharmacies.

It was Dr Luc de Schepper that first introduced me to the Split and Wet dose when he arrived just over a year ago to Sri Lanka to help the survivors of the Tsunami. He always maintained that he was not the first to use this method as Hahnemann recorded it in his Sixth edition but this method is not generally used by homeopaths today as the dry dose in pellets seemed to be more convenient.

Dr Luc used the Wet Dose and the Split Dose to dispense remedies to his patients and at first I was very skeptical that remedies could possibly work at that extreme dilution. As you perhaps are aware Homeopathic remedies are made by a process of potentization of the Q or Mother Tincture in Ethanol. Remedies are usually available in X (Decimal) potencies or in C (Centesimal) potencies. An X potency is made by diluting 1 part of the Q in 9 parts of Ethanol and after succussion (shaking hard to ensure bubbling), 1 part of the potentized solution is then mixed again with another 9 parts of Ethanol solution and so on till this is done to the number of times that is indicated in the potency. 3x will be done 3 times over and 6x will be repeated 6 times over. The C (Centisimal) potencies are made in the same manner but 1 part of the Q is potentized in 99 parts of Ethanol and this is done to the number of times that is indicated in the potency. It is interesting to record that at 6x the presence of the remedy is in the order of 1/ Millionth whilst in the case of 6c the dilution is in the order of 1/ Million, Millionth.

You will observe that when just 3 pellets of the remedy are dropped into a 500ml bottle of spring water, the presence of the remedy can only be imagined. In the form of pellets, there was at least something tangible to be dissolved on the tongue. In the wet dose however which is just a teaspoonful, this extreme dilution cannot logically be considered as a remedy as it seems so impossible to be of any use. The fact remains however that this wet dose remedy actually seems to be more potent in helping to cure the ailment than the remedy in the lactose pellet. All I can state is that however skeptical I was when I first saw this process, the actual results were very positive and the patient was invariably cured faster. I would qualify my statement by stating that to the best of my knowledge, the wet dose seemed to be more potent than the dry dose because one is expected to succuss the remedy in the bottle by shaking or banging it hard against one's palm to ensure the shock wave in the water which causes bubbling which is reputed to increase the potency of the remedy ever so slightly, thereby accelerating the curative process.

The Split Dose is a variation on this same theme where a teaspoonful of the remedy is decanted from the bottle and is stirred into a half cup of water from another bottle. The dose is a teaspoonful sipped from the cup which is then emptied and not reused for the next dose as it does not seem to have the same curative effect and the process is repeated for each dose. This method is used with certain remedies like Nat Sulph 6c which is used to cure Asthma and a few others to ensure that the remedy helps the body gently.

We take Homeopathy for granted as all that one gets are those little pellets and it is very rarely that one stops to wonder how a remedy that is potentized (diluted) to this infinitesimal level can possibly help to cure any ailment. The fact remains however illogical it seems to be, that it does help to cure ailments and diseases that were considered sometimes to be beyond cure by drugs used in medicine. Eczema and Asthma are examples. When I first read about Homeopathy I too considered it to be illogical and refused to accept it till I was cured of my frequent colds way back in 1968. I then decided to make a study of it as I found it fascinating and it is now my Hobby and I use it to help anyone who seeks my assistance free of any charge. It gives me some deep satisfaction to use remedies in what is now termed a 'non classical' manner that is not usually used by the classically trained homeopaths but which I have proved to be equal to or even better than the classical manner which does not seem to have the same rate of cure that the direct method also nicknamed 'this for that' method which I and many thousands of homeopaths throughout the world use today.

I would urge homeopaths who read this post to use the method described above to dispense their remedies as I believe that they too will be as fascinated as I was at first when the remedy in the wet / split dose is discovered to cure the patient faster than in the case of the standard dry dose.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
 
Joe De Livera last decade
As you asked John here are details of my case-:

From the past 10 years the problems begin as with general lack of confidence which further gave me depression and inferioty complex like not coming upto the mark in studies and was always been a shy and reserved youngster.I am repeting lines of books while studing since my high school and also repeting some actions in my mind again and again, sometimes i have intrusive thoughts,i dont know from where they come. and they scare me a lot.

Depression further worsened by failures in love ,finding friends,earning money with which nervousness also increased along with anger like not performing like normal individuals and achiving goals of my life.Some persons became enemies of mine by which they irritated me in different ways giving me so much anger and severe depression , that it hurt me a lot and left a fear with me to face people at certain times.Even in my dreams i face very uncalmy and unpeaceful kind of dreams.At different times homeopaths and other dr's have diagnosed with with severe depression and anxiety disorder(obsessions sort of) but i am unable to get reilef from any of them.For me life is hell from which i cant find an escape though how much hard i may try

I have tried lot of homeopaths and some homeopathic medicines which I take but didin’t get relief from them are-
Nat Mur 1M
Belladona 30c
Lycopodium 200
Kali-C 200
Alumina 1M
Phosphorus 1M
Argentium nitricum 200c(gave me some relif in the start)
Staphysgaria 200c
Ignitia 200c(helps some times)
Zincum met 200c
 
raja4 last decade
Could any one recommend some remedy for the above stated problem and describe the right way to take homeopathic
remedy as by the split way method(explein it to me in detail).
 
raja4 last decade
at least anyone can tell the homeopathic remedy for increasing weight.

My weight is falling a lot as now its 67kg and 3 months back it was 78kg.I have lost appetite too.
 
raja4 last decade
Could anyone explain this
'Wet Dose and the Split Dose' method in layman terms.i read the articles but still i am not clear how this method is to be used as I have not understood it literally.

Could anyone explain in simple language,i mean to say avoid the medical language used by dr's.
 
raja4 last decade
I took homeopathy medicine from two very renouned homeopath(both had very good degree)
found a lot of aggravation.
I had night false problems0me 8 years back it used to happen once in a week.
Then i went to a homeopath and he gave me medicine first Acid phos.
and after taking the medicine after few days the night false became regular.
I told the homepath he changed the medicine and gave me Selinium. and that also made me very week.
Though i had night false before i was never week.
The homeopath said it will be ok withn few days but in 3 months i had night false 6-7 days in week.
Then i went to a Alopath doctor he said they do not have have any medicine for this disease and he advised me to go for a better homeopath
I went to to better homeopath.I continued with him for 4 months (i saw from his prescriptiption he used medium potency like 30x 30 , 200 )
The result is as follows earlier i passed in first division(67%) but i failed in all my exam.
After taking a medicine after few hours i could not recongnise other people only i could recognise my mother , father and sister.
Then i stopped taking the medicine and did not go to any other doctor.
I became totally impotent if i masterbute it took less then one minute to finish.
If i see any sexy film within few minutes simen came out.
It remained impotent for 4-5 years though i was not impotent before i went to the homeopath.
I restricted my life i did not go for any film. i had tremendous sex desiure but no power.
Then i went to to Alopath doctor he advised to marry and it will be ok.
But i thought it will not and it spoil another person's life.
I hate to go to any doctor Alopath or homeopath or whatever.
I had to conitunue my study as i could not say anything to my parents.
One day i went to buy few books i saw a homeopathy book.I just baught it.
When i read the book i saw the homeopath gave me Acid phos Selinium etc
so it should cure my diseases why it agravated it.
I studied the book for 3-4 months.
One day i had dioreea.
I thought diffrently i thought why do not i take a mdecine that the homeopath gives for constipation.
If i have more diorrea then the medicine effect is good but if stops diorrea and brings constipation the the aggravation happens .
I had no disure to live i wanted to die i take the oath of god so i tried this what people might think mad.
i took one dose(fecus Vesiculosis 30). And it stopped my diorrea and the constipation came.
Then i thought if i can stop diorrea in this way i can stop my night false.
I had nothing to loose as i suffered for 4-5 years and i was impotent.
I tried taking medicine and test its aggravation (i did not use any medicine that the homeopath used for nigght false or spermatorrea)
One day i found one medicine that the book says one should avoid this medicine if you have spermatorrea.
I was delighted and took a dose of 30 and from then the night false stopped.
I know nobody has ever tried in this way and people will think i am mad.
I had the nessecity to think diffrently as i could not trust any doctor.
But this medicines did not have any effect on my ipotency.
I took Coffea then saw the agravation few days latter rustox then i saw when i took rustox the effect of coffea totaly goes away.
When i took another medicine then the effect of rustox goes.
Homeopath calls antidoting but have not used there theroy of antidoting and if you take one medicine and then
after 4 years you go for antidoting it does not work otherwise i could have done that.
There is time and potency factor i observed.
I was hopeful using the agravation one day i could solve this problem.
I tried for 2-years testing the agravation of medicine. Then i found one medicine whose agravation actually gives you more potency
My potency was only for one minute but after i took that homeo medicine and when i saw all the agravation of the medicine i went to masterbute the simen or hormone came out after 15 minutes.
Agravation to cure any diseases that is incredible but i found it.
I observed all other agravation with it and came to conclusion it is the agravation so i was delighted.
Because when the agravation happens i belive agravation of all the symtoms happen.
I took 3x and 6x to make it sure and observed all the agravated symtoms.

I know no one will belive this.But let me ask few question to homeopaths
1) if any aggravation happens as they say low potency like 3x 6x can cause agravation.
why they use it and if agravation does not stop then what will happen to the patient.
2) Homeopaths say high dose can not be given freequently as that cause agravation so they admit high dose can also cause agravatio.
3) Can any one tell after this potency (like 200 or 1M or whatever)there is no chance of agravation?
4)As the homeopaths admit agravation may occur then how can they say it is safe and has no side effect.


Do not try what i tried.
I just described my experience i am not suggesting anything or trying to sell anything and i am not a doctor.
 
r_mat04 last decade
NOBODY EXPLAINED THE WET /SPIT DOSE METHOD AS I ASKED.


Anyways this is addition to my knowlege that this kind of aggravation method to cure the problem, I dont know what homeopaths have to say about it and i dont have any book of homeopathy to read.
So, according to you which medicine if you could find one that could help decrease anxiety ,depression and decrease weight fall as by aggravating method of yours that reliefs the main complaint.

I use homeopathy remedies by putting some drops in water-the result is almost all i have tried give me severe aggravation and even if take few drops of a remedy on my tounge i have to literally close my mouth for 20-30 minutes-if in between i cant avoid answering somebody or closing my mouth, it dosent shows any effect or it aggravates.I dont know why this happens with me.

Most of homeopaths i have seen in my country advise mostly to put few drops of remedy in water and then drink it.If i am not wrong homeopathy as i guess i have read on Dr Lockie's website is that homeopathy remedy work in our mouth as being absorbed by nerve endings in the mouth and is not like allopathy that it works in stomach.

I myself am very confused how to get the best of homeopathic remedies as this agravation problem which happens with me most of times is untolerable( homeopaths say it as agood sign as this is the correct remedy which cause aggravtion of symtoms)but after 8 hours -12 hours or 24 hours the aggravtion fades away with me and there is no sign of relief and if i take another dose then more aggravtion- it increases and increases with the times i use it, some homeopaths recommend using higher potency or some other remedy advised- then if it still happens the same way or more or less(with no reilief) what should i do.

I think may be homeopathy is not that good for chronic problems or in very increased problems specially emotional ones. I have homeopaths argumenting with this that they can treat any disease but i frankly dont aggee with this as i have a chronic problem ,my mother also has a chronic skin problem,she has also not benifited from seeing lots of homeopaths and only allopathy helps to a better extent(yes it definately gives side effects and have the high cost factor ,but when your main problem is reliefed which is interfering with your life and living and everything and you have some side effects like constipation or sedation or sleeplessness or sexual dysfunction- which are not that much worrysome and there often medicines prescribe to relief them like Bisacodyl for constipation,a safe sleeping pill which is the most less addictive one and so on).

whatever adivises that contitution remedy should be given or see a classical homeopath or change to a better homeopath. i have done it all seen the best and even the costliest in my city but ultimately i have to take allopathy to get whatever relief it gives.
 
raja4 last decade
You have been prescribed remedies in high doses as you list in an above posting, so occurs that this is the reason for aggravation rather than the method of taking ?!? Some are VERY sensitive energy systems, as you seem to be given framework of mental/emotionals you exhibit, so why such high potencies necessary?
Go lower. And re-consider rememdies. May get better results.
 
carlotta last decade
I have tried all potiencies strating from 30c-200c,1M,10M and tried even LM-2& 4 potencies(which is for very senstive persons as hanehmann developed these in his last yrs specially for persons who get tolerate aggravtion) but the result with me is what i have mentioned in my previous post.
 
raja4 last decade
CORRECTION IN PLACE OF'get tolerate' it is 'cant tolerate'.
i did'nt check it before posting
 
raja4 last decade
will any homeopaths here answer to my queries
 
raja4 last decade

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