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Adenoids in 8 year old active girl snores and breathes thru mouth at night

Problem: Snores when sleeping, sleeps with mouth open, mainly back sleeper, ENT said adenoids have been large and needs surgery after seeing thru micro camera via nose. Kid is terrified hearing surgery.
1. Age: 8
2. Sex: Female
3. Built up: slim
4. Complexion: Dark
5. Country: USA
8. List out all your PROBLEMS with its since how long,which part is affected,which side,what you feel during complaint etc:in an order(which came first then which came? Specify the year of onset
- enlarged adenoids (diagnosed)
-Snoring and sleeps with open mouth on the back.
a)Worsening factors for each complaint: - Winters stuffy nose, India visits stuffy and running nose.
b)When Its Better – Summer in USA
c) In your opinion, What is the expected cause for your problem? Cold foods and winters and dust allergies may be

9. Mind. - sensitive, happy, desire friends but plays well alone. Loves to dance and very active thruout the day

10. Thermal: which weather do you prefer hot or cold? Cold. Complaints that stomach is hot during summers nights to sleep.

11. Do you have Frequent or occasional nausea,vomiting to any food,headache,mouth ulcer,,allergy sneezing,gas trouble - Stuffy nose so asusmign allergy. Give Claritin.

12. Stool: Irregular 1 in 2 days.

13. Urine: regular

15. Sweat - normal no odor

16. Sleep: some snoring sleeps with open mouth

17. Appetite: 3 meals 2 snack

18. Thirst: how many glasses - normal with food and extra depending on weather

19. Cravings: Chocolate and Chicken

20. Aversion: salt/sweet/sour /milk/egg/meat/veg/fruit/vinegar etc. - No

21. Intolerant foods if any which might be your favorite or not - tolerant

24. Do you have any skin complaints- Dry skin

25.Your skin type: oily or dry - Dry

Note: Thanks for helping and we live in USA so getting medicines may take time and report back. But will report as quickly as possibly can.
 
  ariesboy on 2020-02-18
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ariesboy said Problem: Snores when sleeping, sleeps with mouth open, mainly back sleeper, ENT said adenoids have been large and needs surgery after seeing thru micro camera via nose. Kid is terrified hearing surgery.
1. Age: 8
2. Sex: Female
3. Built up: slim
4. Complexion: Dark
5. Country: USA
8. List out all your PROBLEMS with its since how long,which part is affected,which side,what you feel during complaint etc:in an order(which came first then which came? Specify the year of onset
- enlarged adenoids (diagnosed)
-Snoring and sleeps with open mouth on the back.
a)Worsening factors for each complaint: - Winters stuffy nose, India visits stuffy and running nose.
b)When Its Better – Summer in USA
c) In your opinion, What is the expected cause for your problem? Cold foods and winters and dust allergies may be

9. Mind. - sensitive, happy, desire friends but plays well alone. Loves to dance and very active thruout the day

10. Thermal: which weather do you prefer hot or cold? Cold. Complaints that stomach is hot during summers nights to sleep.

11. Do you have Frequent or occasional nausea,vomiting to any food,headache,mouth ulcer,,allergy sneezing,gas trouble - Stuffy nose so assuming allergy. Give Claritin as needed.

12. Stool: Irregular and sometime regular 1 in 2 days. No smell, soft.

13. Urine: regular

15. Sweat - normal no odor

16. Sleep: some snoring sleeps with open mouth

17. Appetite: Regular kid eats normal all veggies and chicken and junk food for snack once a day, no cheeese food.

18. Thirst: how many glasses - normal with food and extra depending on weather

19. Cravings: Chocolate and Chicken

20. Aversion: salt/sweet/sour /milk/egg/meat/veg/fruit/vinegar etc. - No

21. Intolerant foods if any which might be your favorite or not - tolerant

24. Do you have any skin complaints- Dry skin

25.Your skin type: oily or dry - Dry

Note: Thanks for helping and we live in USA so getting medicines may take time and report back. But will report as quickly as possibly can.
 
ariesboy 7 months ago
Does she have any problem with her ears?

And any other health problems?
 
Tui 7 months ago
Thanks for responding. No ear problem but whenever she has a cold (quite frequently in winter and stuffy nose) complains of ear pain.
 
ariesboy 7 months ago
Alternating leg pain, growing pain is what doctor said only in the AM sometimes. The pain goes away after some time with massage or in school. She is active thru-out the day no napping during the day. Sleeps in 5 min at bed time. No issues falling asleep.
 
ariesboy 7 months ago
Calcarea Carb 30c three times a day for 3 days as a test dose and report back in 10 days.

How to prepare the remedy;
1. Get a clean bottle (150 - 200 ml) or buy a mineral/spring water bottle from a store.
2. Put 2 - 3 drops or pills and let it dissolved
3. Take 1 teaspoon as a dose

Important to shake the bottle hard 5 - 6 times each time before taking the remedy.

Please also get Tuberculinum 1M.
 
Tui 7 months ago
Hi Aries,

If you are in USA and you have a Whole Foods
Store - they have the main remedies , like Cal Carb
In 30c.
You can also order from the top of this site - see the store icon.
Regular remedies will arrive within a week.
Tuberculinum is on the store coming from
Canada - but has 200c not 1m.

Tui,
They can order the 200c. If you want 1m
You need to order from Helios homeopathic
In the U.K. that takes 10 days minimum.
Also , confusing on selection. I think you would want the order to be
Tub bov , 1m, liquid, at least 10ml.

Please advise.
 
simone717 7 months ago
Thanks Simone.

Yes, Tub bov. Is the right one.

ariesboy

If it's easy to get 200c, you can start from there but it's not urgent. We first see how she does with calc. Then somewhere along the line, we'll use tub bov.
[Edited by Tui on 2020-02-19 04:52:14]
 
Tui 7 months ago
Thanks guys. Found tub bov 200c tablets on amazon. Link below.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DCC1YS2/ref=ox_sc_act_t...

The Cal Carb 30c is available in wholefoods, wegmans, walgreens, cvs or amazon.
 
ariesboy 7 months ago
FYI, getting remedies from stores or from this site,
Or homeo pharmacies is fine.
But I am not ordering any remedies or meds or pet meds or supplements etc from Amazon, because there are third party sellers
Who are putting what looks like the med in the
Correct bottle- however the med is fake or Who knows what is really in there. I had this problem with a pet med and some herbal supplement-
Then saw that others were having similar issues
[Edited by simone717 on 2020-02-19 19:57:07]
 
simone717 7 months ago
Hi Simone: Thanks for that alert. Would not take any chances with kid's medicine. Found only Tuberculinum 200c or 1M potency (pellets and liquid) on this site's store and not the Tuberculinum Bovine. Everything else is on ebay which may also be unsafe. Please advise.
 
ariesboy 7 months ago
Hi,

The one on this site is the bovine. It is safe to order
That in 1M. Sorry , when I first looked? Some ad was covering up the 1m -The helios U.K. pharmacy has
A huge selection choice that is confusing for
Non homeopaths. I only mentioned tuberculinum
Bov because there is another type on that site,
And if you ordered from Helios , you would not know
Which one to pick.
[Edited by simone717 on 2020-02-20 00:00:16]
 
simone717 7 months ago
Since girl is slim, Calc. carb. might not be helpful. If that did not help, Calc F is good bet.

Best to use Calc F 12x four times a day to begin. In absence, 6x also will do good. Adenoids takes long time to shrink, so you may use for about 3-4 weeks to get its feel.

Why tub so early? Anyways, tub by default is Tuberculinum (Koch). It is not Bovine.
 
dhundhun 7 months ago
You don't need to be Fat” to take Calcarea carb. It's a misunderstanding just like people think you have to be blond and blue eyes and weepy if you want to take pulsatilla.

And I meant to suggest Tuberculinum bovinum kent (tub), NOT Tuberculinum koch ( tub- k). There are about 40 different kind of tuberculum so yes, it's confusing.
[Edited by Tui on 2020-02-20 11:01:05]
 
Tui 7 months ago
Also there are no set rules about when you should use nosodes. I use nosodes when it required.
 
Tui 7 months ago
10 day test dose update: Calcarea Carb given per instruction. She is still same and fine. Will get the tuberculinum 1M from helios may be next week (only avaialble there). Let me know next steps.
 
ariesboy 6 months ago
You can get tub 10m from this site store.
You will have in about 5 days. Helios takes
At least two weeks.
 
simone717 6 months ago
Continue with Calcarea Carb one dose in every 3 days.
 
Tui 6 months ago
Hi Simone, this site wrote back that they do not have tuberculinum in any strength (gave them this tread as reference) and asked us to order from helios.
 
ariesboy 6 months ago
Received the tuberculinum liquid 30ml. Continue with Cal Carb per instructions.
 
ariesboy 6 months ago
Continue with calc carb, also start with tuberculinum one dose weekly for the next 4 weeks.
 
Tui 6 months ago
I am different helper.
Pls tell if there is sweat on forehead during sleep? Is it hot or cold? Is breath-intake time shorter than expiration time?
[Edited by vishnu4 on 2020-03-15 13:41:57]
 
vishnu4 6 months ago
Hi Ariesboy-
Thanks for the info about Tub / no availability on
This site.

FYI -you can only follow one person at a time.
Please make clear if you want to follow Tui
Or Vishnu.
 
simone717 6 months ago
ariesboy

As my practice is getting extremely busy, I won't be available on the forum for the next few months.
There are some very good prescribers here ( Maheeru, Anuj, Dr. Jitesh, freehomeo) so Please create a new post if you wish to continue here with another prescriber.

Best wishes
 
Tui 6 months ago
Thanks for reaching out Vishnu. No sweating in sleep. Breathe expiration, am not sure, need to watch. Am already following Tui's advise and it seems to be working well. Her snoring sound has reduced. So is best to continue in that path.

Thanks for all your help Tui. Will continue to follow your medicine for the next 3 months and see if you are available then, else will reach out to your peers per your advise for next steps. Agree, I did get advise from Anuj (kids sleep bruxism) and Dr Jitesh for my mom's cough. Both their remedies worked like a charm.

Appreciate all of your valuable time and advise Tui ,Simone, dhundhun and Vishnu in trying to help my little girl.
 
ariesboy 6 months ago
Snoring was almost minimal to zero. She is suddenly snoring loudly again.

So Tui wanted to check if you are around by any chance before I create a new thread and reach out to Dr Jitesh or Dr Anuj.
 
ariesboy 5 months ago

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