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What circumstances allow 1M potency daily use of multiple meds ?
Plz read my questions in context with Chronic Reoccurring Depression treatment in Homeopathy...1- is it advisable to take multiple hi potency (1M) medicines at same time, daily?
2- for how long the 1M medication shall be continued?
3- normally how long it take the results to show up?
4- does constitutional therapy in allow to take multiple hi potency meds?
5- doesn't multiple homeo meds contradict or cancel out effects of each other?
6- is there any study to see homeo drugs interaction chart between...
...Ignatia , Aurum-met, Nat-mur, Carcinosinum, Arnica-mont, Arsenicum-alb, Kali-Phos, Nat-carb,
7- how long the medicines be taken if one feels good about certain medicine or a combination (in 1M)?
8- how likely is it that the depression will not come back or will become treatment resistant after taking hi potency?
9- how safe is it to take Lithium-carb (1M) if depression is drug resistant?
Progen11 on 2021-05-27
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Hi
Why do you want these answers ?
Kindly relate your history of depression just like a story
Post the medicines allopathic and homeopathic remedies taken, chronologically
What allopathic medicines are you taking now ?
Also other health issues
As per Dr JT Kent higher potency can kill 1M and above
potencies above 200 shud never be self prescribed and normally not more than three doses
Time to show results depend on the remedy chosen for the symptoms and the constitution of the patient
Constitutional remedy can be prescribed by A very experienced practitioner or an experienced qualified homeopath
There are mention of antidotes and a correlation of remedies like which follows which but the specifics u asked I m not aware
The aim of homeopathy is to cure permanently with minimal doses and minimum remedies it is in a very few peculiar cases u need to take a remedy for life
How did you arrive at Lithium Carb
Why do you want these answers ?
Kindly relate your history of depression just like a story
Post the medicines allopathic and homeopathic remedies taken, chronologically
What allopathic medicines are you taking now ?
Also other health issues
As per Dr JT Kent higher potency can kill 1M and above
potencies above 200 shud never be self prescribed and normally not more than three doses
Time to show results depend on the remedy chosen for the symptoms and the constitution of the patient
Constitutional remedy can be prescribed by A very experienced practitioner or an experienced qualified homeopath
There are mention of antidotes and a correlation of remedies like which follows which but the specifics u asked I m not aware
The aim of homeopathy is to cure permanently with minimal doses and minimum remedies it is in a very few peculiar cases u need to take a remedy for life
How did you arrive at Lithium Carb
♡ Kaps 2 years ago
Dear Kaps
Thanks for the reply.
1. I wanted these answers to better understand my treatment suggested by someone who is an allopathic doctor & surgeon, has been a patient of depression/bi-polar disorder, unsatisfied with allopathic treatment by the Psychiatrists and eventually turned to Homeopathic doctor, got relief... which further developed his interest in researching Homeopathy.
2. Chronologically, I used Faverin (fluvoxamine), Effexor (venlafaxine) + Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Paraxil (Paroxetine) since 2005, but it has been more than one year without taking any allopathic med.
3. In the above period, I tried consulting homeo doctors whenever I stopped using these allopathic meds but, it would worsen my condition. Also I wouldn't know what they are prescribing in which potency! Using homeo remedies had aggravated my depression.
4. This time I actually wanted to follow a real success case with 1st hand experience thus turned to Homeopathic remedies again.
5. Above mentioned patient cum doctor suggested all those meds in 1M but I am not convinced as it worsened my condition (after taking few of them) with extreme lethargy & foggy brain after few doses.
6. I stopped all and started feeling better but again my energy got to zero with extreme worries of the future, regrets & losses of the past, worthlessness & lack of interest in anything.
7. Took Kali-Phos 1M at night & found it magical with sound sleep & lesser after sleep depression! Added Nat-carb 1M next day in the morning and seems it cleared all the brain fog! I feel my brain can think positively, now.
8. I took only 2 doses each and wanted to know should I stop or continue?
9. Above mentioned patient cum doctor opinion is to stop these two and take Arnica-mont 1M & Carcinosinum 1M 3 doses each! Is it favorable.
10. As per him, Lithium-carb would be the last resort if nothing worked for me, which is something serious to me.
11. I am not taking any allopathic meds and feel quite stable after the meds at point 7 7 above.
Thanks for the reply.
1. I wanted these answers to better understand my treatment suggested by someone who is an allopathic doctor & surgeon, has been a patient of depression/bi-polar disorder, unsatisfied with allopathic treatment by the Psychiatrists and eventually turned to Homeopathic doctor, got relief... which further developed his interest in researching Homeopathy.
2. Chronologically, I used Faverin (fluvoxamine), Effexor (venlafaxine) + Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Paraxil (Paroxetine) since 2005, but it has been more than one year without taking any allopathic med.
3. In the above period, I tried consulting homeo doctors whenever I stopped using these allopathic meds but, it would worsen my condition. Also I wouldn't know what they are prescribing in which potency! Using homeo remedies had aggravated my depression.
4. This time I actually wanted to follow a real success case with 1st hand experience thus turned to Homeopathic remedies again.
5. Above mentioned patient cum doctor suggested all those meds in 1M but I am not convinced as it worsened my condition (after taking few of them) with extreme lethargy & foggy brain after few doses.
6. I stopped all and started feeling better but again my energy got to zero with extreme worries of the future, regrets & losses of the past, worthlessness & lack of interest in anything.
7. Took Kali-Phos 1M at night & found it magical with sound sleep & lesser after sleep depression! Added Nat-carb 1M next day in the morning and seems it cleared all the brain fog! I feel my brain can think positively, now.
8. I took only 2 doses each and wanted to know should I stop or continue?
9. Above mentioned patient cum doctor opinion is to stop these two and take Arnica-mont 1M & Carcinosinum 1M 3 doses each! Is it favorable.
10. As per him, Lithium-carb would be the last resort if nothing worked for me, which is something serious to me.
11. I am not taking any allopathic meds and feel quite stable after the meds at point 7 7 above.
Progen11 2 years ago
Firstly homeopathy is not like pain killer for all kinds of pain be it head stomach or knee
How precise the remedy selection is shall be evident from a case narrated below
The patient had sleeping disorder, he used to wake up thpree four times at night stay awake for 10-15 minutes and go back to sleep used to feel as if he has not rested enough and was lethargic thru out the day
When he narrated his symptoms he said his sleep gets interrupted I prescribed and he was better but just about 30-40%
On further questioning when I asked him tell me how does your sleep get interrupted, by some noise dream or movement? He said no his sleep does not get interrupted but he just wakes up like every morning
I then prescribed another remedy and he is OK relapsed after three months repeated now OK for past three months
Only three doses both the times.
The difference in interruption and waking means different remedy.
I appreciate that allopathic who directed and prescribed the remedies normally they brush aside homeopathy
post your latest symptoms so that I can be of help
Do not take any 1M potency for more than three days one dose daily
How precise the remedy selection is shall be evident from a case narrated below
The patient had sleeping disorder, he used to wake up thpree four times at night stay awake for 10-15 minutes and go back to sleep used to feel as if he has not rested enough and was lethargic thru out the day
When he narrated his symptoms he said his sleep gets interrupted I prescribed and he was better but just about 30-40%
On further questioning when I asked him tell me how does your sleep get interrupted, by some noise dream or movement? He said no his sleep does not get interrupted but he just wakes up like every morning
I then prescribed another remedy and he is OK relapsed after three months repeated now OK for past three months
Only three doses both the times.
The difference in interruption and waking means different remedy.
I appreciate that allopathic who directed and prescribed the remedies normally they brush aside homeopathy
post your latest symptoms so that I can be of help
Do not take any 1M potency for more than three days one dose daily
♡ Kaps 2 years ago
Thank you very much for your attention, Kaps!
I have attached an image file describing in depth my symptoms & history. After a deep thought and spending hours, I tried to consolidate and express everything regarding my medications, symptoms history, constitutional type/behavioural type etc.
Again thanking you for offering help!
I have attached an image file describing in depth my symptoms & history. After a deep thought and spending hours, I tried to consolidate and express everything regarding my medications, symptoms history, constitutional type/behavioural type etc.
Again thanking you for offering help!
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Progen11 2 years ago
Great
Past can not be fixed and what u do today will shape your tomorrow
Simply put if you have too many drinks nobody on this earth can stop u having a hangover
Remedies will help but u have to take care of your life
You need a healthy diet and healthy life style pick a hobby and some physical activity
I m sure, u are aware that when we do physical activity mood enhancing chemicals are released into the blood stream, much some people get addicted to this too
So commit on this forum to get your life back
Let us start with getting rid of the ill effects of the remedies on your body and mind
Aloe S 200 05 drops in water/05 pills once a day half an hour before breakfast for three days
From day 04
Thuja O Mother Tincture 10 drops in water empty stomach ( wake up rinse mouth and take the remedy no brushing or anything orally for next 20 minutes ) for a week
Avena Sativa mother tincture 10 drops in water half an hour before dinner
For a week
Aconite N 200 liquid
It is to be taken SOS when you feel absolutely hecked up miserable 05 drops directly on your tongue and post the effect of this remedy immediately
Revert after 03 days or as and when u feel difference in the symptoms
Past can not be fixed and what u do today will shape your tomorrow
Simply put if you have too many drinks nobody on this earth can stop u having a hangover
Remedies will help but u have to take care of your life
You need a healthy diet and healthy life style pick a hobby and some physical activity
I m sure, u are aware that when we do physical activity mood enhancing chemicals are released into the blood stream, much some people get addicted to this too
So commit on this forum to get your life back
Let us start with getting rid of the ill effects of the remedies on your body and mind
Aloe S 200 05 drops in water/05 pills once a day half an hour before breakfast for three days
From day 04
Thuja O Mother Tincture 10 drops in water empty stomach ( wake up rinse mouth and take the remedy no brushing or anything orally for next 20 minutes ) for a week
Avena Sativa mother tincture 10 drops in water half an hour before dinner
For a week
Aconite N 200 liquid
It is to be taken SOS when you feel absolutely hecked up miserable 05 drops directly on your tongue and post the effect of this remedy immediately
Revert after 03 days or as and when u feel difference in the symptoms
♡ Kaps 2 years ago
I totally agree Kaps and thank you so much for being with me. I can see a ray of light now and hopefully will stand again.
Will keep you posted as advised...
Will keep you posted as advised...
Progen11 2 years ago
Aloe S 200:
Desr Kaps, today I took the 2nd dose as advised.
Not very sure perhaps the brain function reset has started as I feel mix effects...
Good thing is:
it seems brain fog is getting cleared as I don't feel lethargic & laying down all day long staring at the roof, procrastinating, bouncing between the past & future and waiting for a miracle to happen.
Stool function improved as I used to pass upto 3 times in a day, before, but past two days only once in a day. Started my prayers again after a gap and want to fix things.
Things in question are:
I felt sudden drop in sugar level yesterday & couldn't wait a minute to eat full meal in the afternoon, as in the morning I couldn't eat well due to lack if appetite. Experienced flue like symptoms, passed traces of blackish phlegm with little morning cough (which cleared away). Watery eyes with irritation & sneezing with nose itching. (allergy symptoms, could be seasonal). Much improved today.
I woke up early in the morning & didn't desire to go to bed again & put my head under the cusion (to hide from my circumstances), but I couldn't sleep well for 2 nights which may be the cause of my irritation & aggressiveness in the day. Or, it could be due the urge to fix things up as quickly as possible because my current circumstances doesn't allow me to take any further depressive 'rest' which has worsened my situation, already.
I also cried today & asked The Devine Power to help me after a long time. I don't know to call it anxiety or getting to the reality (to come back & fight rather flight) which has triggered my sensitivity & urge to save the ship with my family on board.
As I stated, it seems a reset of my brain's neurotransmitters functionality so the positives & negatives could be part of the process. Overall, I may say it's the 'awakening process'.
Your expertise can guide better.
I hope it would be a constructive destruction followed by a strong rebuild and the next medication would generate new healthier neurons with much better elasticity to cope with stress & good brain functions.
Tomorrow, I will be taking the 3rd dose and then shall move on to the next step as advised.
Best regards.
Desr Kaps, today I took the 2nd dose as advised.
Not very sure perhaps the brain function reset has started as I feel mix effects...
Good thing is:
it seems brain fog is getting cleared as I don't feel lethargic & laying down all day long staring at the roof, procrastinating, bouncing between the past & future and waiting for a miracle to happen.
Stool function improved as I used to pass upto 3 times in a day, before, but past two days only once in a day. Started my prayers again after a gap and want to fix things.
Things in question are:
I felt sudden drop in sugar level yesterday & couldn't wait a minute to eat full meal in the afternoon, as in the morning I couldn't eat well due to lack if appetite. Experienced flue like symptoms, passed traces of blackish phlegm with little morning cough (which cleared away). Watery eyes with irritation & sneezing with nose itching. (allergy symptoms, could be seasonal). Much improved today.
I woke up early in the morning & didn't desire to go to bed again & put my head under the cusion (to hide from my circumstances), but I couldn't sleep well for 2 nights which may be the cause of my irritation & aggressiveness in the day. Or, it could be due the urge to fix things up as quickly as possible because my current circumstances doesn't allow me to take any further depressive 'rest' which has worsened my situation, already.
I also cried today & asked The Devine Power to help me after a long time. I don't know to call it anxiety or getting to the reality (to come back & fight rather flight) which has triggered my sensitivity & urge to save the ship with my family on board.
As I stated, it seems a reset of my brain's neurotransmitters functionality so the positives & negatives could be part of the process. Overall, I may say it's the 'awakening process'.
Your expertise can guide better.
I hope it would be a constructive destruction followed by a strong rebuild and the next medication would generate new healthier neurons with much better elasticity to cope with stress & good brain functions.
Tomorrow, I will be taking the 3rd dose and then shall move on to the next step as advised.
Best regards.
Progen11 2 years ago
Great
Well begun is half done
Fall in sugar level do you have diabetes
Blackish phlegm do you smoke ?
These are the held up or pent up feelings which are leaving your system I m sure u must have had good amount of relief after the flow of the sorrows from your eyes in the form of tears
Like I told you Aloe S is to get the ill effects of the remedies take. Previously
Once you start Thuja all your hunger digestion and similar issues will be addressed
Avena Aativa will help you focus and concentrate
Once your system physical metabolic and mental is normalised then we will go to specifics
Depression procrastination sleep issues
The very foundation of your ECONOMY is shaken up let us stabilise it first
Thanks for the detailed post
[Edited by Kaps on 2021-05-31 14:30:25]
Well begun is half done
Fall in sugar level do you have diabetes
Blackish phlegm do you smoke ?
These are the held up or pent up feelings which are leaving your system I m sure u must have had good amount of relief after the flow of the sorrows from your eyes in the form of tears
Like I told you Aloe S is to get the ill effects of the remedies take. Previously
Once you start Thuja all your hunger digestion and similar issues will be addressed
Avena Aativa will help you focus and concentrate
Once your system physical metabolic and mental is normalised then we will go to specifics
Depression procrastination sleep issues
The very foundation of your ECONOMY is shaken up let us stabilise it first
Thanks for the detailed post
[Edited by Kaps on 2021-05-31 14:30:25]
♡ Kaps 2 years ago
I appreciate your quick response. Many thanks!
I am not diabetic but I think due to no food intake till afternoon, I felt sudden craving for a full meal. I felt that in these two days, my appetite would start only afternoons.
Yes, I do bathroom smoking 3-4 cigarette a day (for kind of stress relief).
Yes, I felt very much relieved. Actually, I wanted to cry several times but seems my emotions were locked by the previous meds.
Yes, I feel the same that a reset process has started for the good to come.
I am not diabetic but I think due to no food intake till afternoon, I felt sudden craving for a full meal. I felt that in these two days, my appetite would start only afternoons.
Yes, I do bathroom smoking 3-4 cigarette a day (for kind of stress relief).
Yes, I felt very much relieved. Actually, I wanted to cry several times but seems my emotions were locked by the previous meds.
Yes, I feel the same that a reset process has started for the good to come.
Progen11 2 years ago
It was a brighter day today! Seems I experienced fresh air & Energy after a long time. Attended an important meeting with relatively good energy, saw a hope, spent time with family in good mood abd catered to their needs. I also attended myself, checked my sugar levels empty stomach & 2 hrs after meals and shall do that for a week or so to build my sugar B.P chart as i felt energy drop two times, today. Reasons could be... didn't take good breakfast as usual or due to stress to perform a good engaging meeting (career related) and as I got free & reached home 4 hrs were spent already. At that moment my BP was 100/70, pulse 90, sugar 70. (all through digital meters). Got a full meal including egg & fruit at 3 pm and engaged in positive activities again till 7, when I felt energy drop again... Had another meal at 8, engaged again... at 10 pm sugar 165, BP 100/65, pulse 74.
I is quiet possible that my metabolism got faster & consumed the carbohydrates & sodium much quicker to support my mental & physical activities as I remained engaged. throughout the day. Or I felt this lowness because after a long time I experienced the high side which my body & brain was not used to! Also felt acidity in stomach msy be due to over eating... All this could be part of the reset process or some of the side effects. But, no mood swings, irritation, aggressive or depressive behavior at end of the 3rd day & last dose of Aloe S 200.
Thank you Kaps & God bless you.
[Edited by Progen11 on 2021-06-16 04:04:17]
I is quiet possible that my metabolism got faster & consumed the carbohydrates & sodium much quicker to support my mental & physical activities as I remained engaged. throughout the day. Or I felt this lowness because after a long time I experienced the high side which my body & brain was not used to! Also felt acidity in stomach msy be due to over eating... All this could be part of the reset process or some of the side effects. But, no mood swings, irritation, aggressive or depressive behavior at end of the 3rd day & last dose of Aloe S 200.
Thank you Kaps & God bless you.
[Edited by Progen11 on 2021-06-16 04:04:17]
Progen11 2 years ago
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