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14 y.o. female with pain and bleeding during urination
Looking for remedy suggestions for the following chronic:14 y.o. female, first menses three years ago. Second month instead of menses, had fainting spell; next few months thereafter, no period, then her period reinstated itself at the same time as her twin's first menses.
During the amenorrhea period of several months, she developed slight burning during urination. Once menses resumed, this symptom did not fully go away. She has had something wrong with her urination for three years, since beginning menses. Symptoms included burning or stinging during and after urination, frequent urination, and at some point along the way she noticed the urinary symptoms were worse when she was expecting her period and during her period.
Her periods tend to be light and late. Various herbs were tried as well as remedies which suit hormonal imbalances, and all of these would temporarily abate urinary issues (though not entirely) and then the urinary problems would resume. All the main typical urinary troubles type remedies have been tried without success. Standard herbals (cranberry, d-mannose, vitamin c) have failed as well.
Last year, her older sister was hospitalized for serious illness for two months; when her older sister returned home again, the urinary symptoms escalated to a drop or two of blood at the end of urination, and needing to urinate once overnight. This then progressed to cutting and shooting pains, making it difficult to walk or sit down.
Different remedies seem to abate the bleeding but the pain remains and is sometimes severe. Presently urination is hourly, she has to get up several times overnight to relieve herself. Only a small amount comes out each time. Recently success with Nat-phos in water doses brought the distance between urination to 2-3 hours, and no bleeding, and greater comfort, and reduction to one overnight voiding. But then it stopped working.
While it seems the symptoms are worsened at certain times in her menstrual cycle (i.e. hormonal fluctuations) it does not seem that the etiology is hormonal. The time of her first complaint was after her first period (menarche) and she cried all day and was upset about getting a period; fearing she was too young to get a period and that something must be wrong with her. She is a twin; her twin did not get a period when she did and this may have had something to do with the emotional reaction. The strength of the emotional reaction seemed enough to halt her menses for several months until her twin had a first period, and then she, too, resumed having periods.
Since early childhood, she would be afraid to speak up if she had any symptom, that to tell someone about it meant something was very wrong with her and she was very ill (i.e. even headaches, etc) This may have had to do with having an older sister with a chronic illness. Worse for being observed, for condition observed. She is an emotionally closed, reserved person; cries somewhere privately if she needs to, hard to get her to elaborate about her symptoms.
Father left the family home when she was two; she was previously nighttime continent and after his departure she developed enuresis. Her twin did not. Used to hold (retain) her urine as a toddler, as though she did not want to stop what she was doing to go to the bathroom and then urge would be stronger and harder to retain the following time.
Enuresis was resistant to the likely childhood enuresis remedies (Equis, Caust, etc). Was cured with graduated water doses of Ignatia for disappointed love; this was a guess based on the onset happening after the father's absence from the home. This leads me to suppose that perhaps her current complaint is also emotionally caused and perhaps has to do with her reaction on getting a first period.
Any helpful thoughts/observations would be appreciated.
missingmyth44
missingmyth44 on 2023-03-16
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FIRST FEEDBACK AFTER 7 DAYS.
NUX VOM 200
15 drops in a cup containing an ounce of water, sip one third of it, 15 minutes later sip the next third of it, and 15 minutes later take the last third of it.HALF AN HOUR BEFORE DINNER.FOR 3 NIGHTS.
DAY 4 ONWARDS
CANTHARIS 30.
Dose five (5) drops/pellets , taken at the same time 3 Times daily.
Take the remedies until symptoms are improved.
Keep all doses 30 minutes before or after food, drink and teeth brushing.
IN ADDITION MAG PHOS 6X AND KALI MUR 6X FIVE TABS OF EACH THREE TIMES A DAY FROM DAY 1.
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing your symptoms.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
While taking medicines use common sense in diet avoid everything you know to be hurtful, or doubtful.
NUX VOM 200
15 drops in a cup containing an ounce of water, sip one third of it, 15 minutes later sip the next third of it, and 15 minutes later take the last third of it.HALF AN HOUR BEFORE DINNER.FOR 3 NIGHTS.
DAY 4 ONWARDS
CANTHARIS 30.
Dose five (5) drops/pellets , taken at the same time 3 Times daily.
Take the remedies until symptoms are improved.
Keep all doses 30 minutes before or after food, drink and teeth brushing.
IN ADDITION MAG PHOS 6X AND KALI MUR 6X FIVE TABS OF EACH THREE TIMES A DAY FROM DAY 1.
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing your symptoms.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
While taking medicines use common sense in diet avoid everything you know to be hurtful, or doubtful.
♡ anuj srivastava 2 weeks ago
Thank you for this reply, Anuj,
If there are no emotional causal factors holding this chronic complaint in place, then your recommendations may greatly assist. If there are emotional causes behind this ongoing complaint, your recommendation of Nux-v may still assist if it matches the emotional causes. So I will be glad to start with the Nux-v and see what gains can be made.
When you say "15 drops in a cup of 1 oz water", are those remedy drops? I do not have liquid remedies, I have pellets. Would it be the same if I take a pellet of Nux-v 200, dissolve in a spoon of water, then take 15 drops of that to add to the 1 oz of water for sipping? Or, just drop a pellet of 200 into the 1 oz water, and take the repeated sips as instructed?
This sounds like a water dose ie Hahnemann's 6th and I use water dosing, but just wanted to know if I can melt a pellet of 200 into water because I only have pellet-based remedies.
missingmyth44
If there are no emotional causal factors holding this chronic complaint in place, then your recommendations may greatly assist. If there are emotional causes behind this ongoing complaint, your recommendation of Nux-v may still assist if it matches the emotional causes. So I will be glad to start with the Nux-v and see what gains can be made.
When you say "15 drops in a cup of 1 oz water", are those remedy drops? I do not have liquid remedies, I have pellets. Would it be the same if I take a pellet of Nux-v 200, dissolve in a spoon of water, then take 15 drops of that to add to the 1 oz of water for sipping? Or, just drop a pellet of 200 into the 1 oz water, and take the repeated sips as instructed?
This sounds like a water dose ie Hahnemann's 6th and I use water dosing, but just wanted to know if I can melt a pellet of 200 into water because I only have pellet-based remedies.
missingmyth44
missingmyth44 2 weeks ago
When you say "15 drops in a cup of 1 oz water", are those remedy drops?YOU HAVE THEM IN PELLETS.5 PELLETS ONE DOSE.THAT MEANS 15 PELLETS.OU CAN DISSOLVE THEM IN WATER.
♡ anuj srivastava 2 weeks ago
For anyone researching symptoms and checking these forums, the suggested prescription of Nux-vom did not have any effect on the case, unfortunately. Cantharis is being tried and I will write again to update on whether it had any effect, but as that remedy has already been tried without success, it seems unlikely. I will post again at such a time as this case demonstrates progressive improvement to a remedy, in case it helps someone else with similar symptoms/case history. Meanwhile, any alternate suggestions on remedies to consider will be welcomed as I continue working on the case.
missingmyth44
missingmyth44
missingmyth44 last week
Nux vomica was prescribed because it is the common antidote for many remedies which you must have given to the 14 y.o female.
In 2 days it is difficult to get any results. Are you giving MP and KM?
However others treating in this forum are free to respond and suggest remedies.
[Edited by anuj srivastava on 2023-03-21 05:29:17]
In 2 days it is difficult to get any results. Are you giving MP and KM?
However others treating in this forum are free to respond and suggest remedies.
[Edited by anuj srivastava on 2023-03-21 05:29:17]
♡ anuj srivastava last week
In my experience, the true similar will yield some indications quickly that confirm its choice. Even if in a different sphere than the original complaint, at first (ie. emotional state).
Nux vom was not needed as an antidote and you did not state that this was the intention behind your selection. Nux is also an indicated remedy in complaints of the urinary tract.
Whatever remedy a person is presently on antidotes the former remedy last used, and the vital force is under the persuasion of the current remedy.
From this point, I will be sure to inquire as to the reasoning behind recommendations offered on this forum. Cantharis, for example, does not work in this case. I would be curious to know your reasoning for the salts you recommend.
Nux vom was not needed as an antidote and you did not state that this was the intention behind your selection. Nux is also an indicated remedy in complaints of the urinary tract.
Whatever remedy a person is presently on antidotes the former remedy last used, and the vital force is under the persuasion of the current remedy.
From this point, I will be sure to inquire as to the reasoning behind recommendations offered on this forum. Cantharis, for example, does not work in this case. I would be curious to know your reasoning for the salts you recommend.
missingmyth44 last week
READ THE REMEDIES I PRESCRIBED IN CELL SALTS.
I ALWAYS START WITH NUX VOM.
# NOTE
The Success of the prescription depends largely upon your ability to describe your symptoms. Let modesty not prevent a full statement. What stands out are the most striking, uncommon, peculiar, rare and strange characteristic signs and symptoms, which indeed are the pointers towards individualizing a person, the key for the selection of the most suited medicine ..PQRS or Rare, Uncommon, Peculiar, Striking ((RUPS)
FEW EXAMPLES
Difficult respiration, lying while, on the left side, ameliorates.
Ulcers in mouth aggravation before menses.
Itching in anal region aggravation before menses.
Sleep on knee chest position.
To accomplish desirable results every case must be individualized, every symptom from head to feet, must be given, every variation from positive health must be known.
WHATEVER IS NOT AS IT SHOULD BE IS A SYMPTOM AND MUST BE RECORDED. Local application in homeopathy is not allowed for treating skin ailments..
Most treatments for skin disorders suppress the real cause. They also aim at the surface, not in treating problems from deep within. Homeopathy, on the other hand, aims at the base; it treats the cause. It avoids suppression. It treats from ‘back to front.’
The effect of application is dramatic; but, do you know that you run the risk of exchanging your skin eruption with a serious, unrelated internal disorder? For example: asthma, migraine, tummy problems. Surprised? The fact is homeopathy has always highlighted the harmful effects of suppressed skin problems.
FOR FAQs visit u/m site
https://www.theaahp.org/consumer-informa...
Dreams are an expression of the unconscious and of our personality. They are therefore of great significance for remedy selection in homeopathy. For more about dreams visit u/m site.
https://www.homeopathy360.com/2017/01/17...
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing SENSATIONS.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing SYMPTOMS.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
BASED ON THE SYMPTOMS YOU HAVE LISTED CANTHARIS WAS PRESCRIBED.KINDLY GO THROUGH THE THREADS AND THEN POST ADDITIONAL SYMPTOMS.
I ALWAYS START WITH NUX VOM.
# NOTE
The Success of the prescription depends largely upon your ability to describe your symptoms. Let modesty not prevent a full statement. What stands out are the most striking, uncommon, peculiar, rare and strange characteristic signs and symptoms, which indeed are the pointers towards individualizing a person, the key for the selection of the most suited medicine ..PQRS or Rare, Uncommon, Peculiar, Striking ((RUPS)
FEW EXAMPLES
Difficult respiration, lying while, on the left side, ameliorates.
Ulcers in mouth aggravation before menses.
Itching in anal region aggravation before menses.
Sleep on knee chest position.
To accomplish desirable results every case must be individualized, every symptom from head to feet, must be given, every variation from positive health must be known.
WHATEVER IS NOT AS IT SHOULD BE IS A SYMPTOM AND MUST BE RECORDED. Local application in homeopathy is not allowed for treating skin ailments..
Most treatments for skin disorders suppress the real cause. They also aim at the surface, not in treating problems from deep within. Homeopathy, on the other hand, aims at the base; it treats the cause. It avoids suppression. It treats from ‘back to front.’
The effect of application is dramatic; but, do you know that you run the risk of exchanging your skin eruption with a serious, unrelated internal disorder? For example: asthma, migraine, tummy problems. Surprised? The fact is homeopathy has always highlighted the harmful effects of suppressed skin problems.
FOR FAQs visit u/m site
https://www.theaahp.org/consumer-informa...
Dreams are an expression of the unconscious and of our personality. They are therefore of great significance for remedy selection in homeopathy. For more about dreams visit u/m site.
https://www.homeopathy360.com/2017/01/17...
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing SENSATIONS.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
Check out these under mentioned threads for describing SYMPTOMS.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/...
BASED ON THE SYMPTOMS YOU HAVE LISTED CANTHARIS WAS PRESCRIBED.KINDLY GO THROUGH THE THREADS AND THEN POST ADDITIONAL SYMPTOMS.
♡ anuj srivastava last week
AND IF YOU WANT ME SEND YOU AN EXHAUSTIVE QUESTIONNAIRE MAIL ME .
MY ID IN MY PROFILE.
ANSWER IT AND FORWARD.
General statements do little good. It would be more guessing to select the remedy. It would be more guessing to select, one out of a possible hundred remedies
MY ID IN MY PROFILE.
ANSWER IT AND FORWARD.
General statements do little good. It would be more guessing to select the remedy. It would be more guessing to select, one out of a possible hundred remedies
♡ anuj srivastava last week
What is interesting is the complete disregard for any peculiar and striking emotional symptoms concomitant to the physical complaints, which were described in sufficient detail to be considered; do you consider Kents advocacy of emotional symptoms in the selection of a remedy? Furthermore, I gave modalities in this case as well. Were these considered?
I know the salts and what they are but I would like an explanation of why you think those particular two salts are of use in this case, based on the case description itself.
Lastly, what happened to the minimal dose? How is fifteen pellets taken three times in a row over three days considered a minimal dose? Aside from the revered Hahnemann himself, have you read much of David Littles writings on the importance of the minimal dose?
As to suppression, I wholeheartedly concur and have seen it myself. The same truth applies to suppressed emotions becoming causal root factors for physical dis-ease and complaints. If you would like to re-read my original post and take note this time of emotional aspects of the case and any modalities I have included, and offer suggestions, I will be glad to consider them. I would want to understand your reasoning behind the selected remedy as well.
missingmyth44
I know the salts and what they are but I would like an explanation of why you think those particular two salts are of use in this case, based on the case description itself.
Lastly, what happened to the minimal dose? How is fifteen pellets taken three times in a row over three days considered a minimal dose? Aside from the revered Hahnemann himself, have you read much of David Littles writings on the importance of the minimal dose?
As to suppression, I wholeheartedly concur and have seen it myself. The same truth applies to suppressed emotions becoming causal root factors for physical dis-ease and complaints. If you would like to re-read my original post and take note this time of emotional aspects of the case and any modalities I have included, and offer suggestions, I will be glad to consider them. I would want to understand your reasoning behind the selected remedy as well.
missingmyth44
missingmyth44 last week
I know the salts and what they are but I would like an explanation of why you think those particular two salts are of use in this case, based on the case description itself.SORRY I HAVE TOO MANY PATIENTS AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY I GAVE THE REMEDIES.
I will be glad to consider them. I would want to understand your reasoning behind the selected remedy as well. BASED ON THE SYMPTOMS THIS WAS THE BEST REMEDY.SECOND ONE WAS CAUSTICUM.THIRD REMEDY WAS SULPHUR.
KINDLY GO THROUGH THE THREADS I HAVE LISTED AND THEN RESPOND.
I will be glad to consider them. I would want to understand your reasoning behind the selected remedy as well. BASED ON THE SYMPTOMS THIS WAS THE BEST REMEDY.SECOND ONE WAS CAUSTICUM.THIRD REMEDY WAS SULPHUR.
KINDLY GO THROUGH THE THREADS I HAVE LISTED AND THEN RESPOND.
♡ anuj srivastava last week
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