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Yes Kuldeep
Better late than never.
I assure all the visitors that the worst is over.
Now we will concentrate, to treat patients.
Murthy
Better late than never.
I assure all the visitors that the worst is over.
Now we will concentrate, to treat patients.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 last decade
I visited other homeopathy forum (beside other world, I wont take its name)
Basically it is a Homeopathy Madrasa.
People were chanting about same one book, same one theory. They were all lecturers or students (taking turns) and were in utter agreement about the same one theory, same one book.
Once a while a patient stumbled on the site and he was told
Go see a classical homeopath
And also a list of Classical Homeopaths was also provided.
Now I wonder, what these homeopathy Mullah were doing if they cant prescribe.
BECAUSE:
If one prescribes other will jump to his throat with their one holy book in their hands, in utter criticism.
So they tell the patient Go see the other party who is away from them, to help patient in their sincere wish, they also provide a list.
Some Mullah from that site came here (because they were not able to prescribe there) and brought their one book and one theory. They jump on the throat of other prescribes without offering any of their advise.
Also their advise is: Go see a classical homeopath. Even if a classical homeopath in the list is a well known fool shoe man
Homeopathy Terrorism. Convert or die.
Basically it is a Homeopathy Madrasa.
People were chanting about same one book, same one theory. They were all lecturers or students (taking turns) and were in utter agreement about the same one theory, same one book.
Once a while a patient stumbled on the site and he was told
Go see a classical homeopath
And also a list of Classical Homeopaths was also provided.
Now I wonder, what these homeopathy Mullah were doing if they cant prescribe.
BECAUSE:
If one prescribes other will jump to his throat with their one holy book in their hands, in utter criticism.
So they tell the patient Go see the other party who is away from them, to help patient in their sincere wish, they also provide a list.
Some Mullah from that site came here (because they were not able to prescribe there) and brought their one book and one theory. They jump on the throat of other prescribes without offering any of their advise.
Also their advise is: Go see a classical homeopath. Even if a classical homeopath in the list is a well known fool shoe man
Homeopathy Terrorism. Convert or die.
kuldeep last decade
some forums have a strict policy of not allowing prescriptions unless a full case is taken.
Even ABC moderator says this.
'we do not have any foolproof system to protect the users - as it says clearly, you take suggestions at your own risk. However, there are enough people posting here that it is likely somebody would comment, and keeping discussions on the forum is therefore the only safeguard you have.'
ref:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/60524/
abc also has this warning on every page.
Important
Information given in this forum is given by way of exchange of views only, and those views are not necessarily those of ABC Homeopathy. It is not to be treated as a medical diagnosis or prescription, and should not be used as a substitute for a consultation with a qualified homeopath or physician. It is possible that advice given here may be dangerous, and you should make your own checks that it is safe. For example, taking mother tinctures can lead to serious side effects, and stopping prescribed medication without first consulting a physician can also endanger your health. If symptoms persist, seek professional medical attention. Bear in mind that even minor symptoms can be a sign of a more serious underlying condition, and a timely diagnosis by your doctor could save your life.
So,there is nothing wrong in advising the patient to be cautious with prescriptions.
Even ABC moderator says this.
'we do not have any foolproof system to protect the users - as it says clearly, you take suggestions at your own risk. However, there are enough people posting here that it is likely somebody would comment, and keeping discussions on the forum is therefore the only safeguard you have.'
ref:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/60524/
abc also has this warning on every page.
Important
Information given in this forum is given by way of exchange of views only, and those views are not necessarily those of ABC Homeopathy. It is not to be treated as a medical diagnosis or prescription, and should not be used as a substitute for a consultation with a qualified homeopath or physician. It is possible that advice given here may be dangerous, and you should make your own checks that it is safe. For example, taking mother tinctures can lead to serious side effects, and stopping prescribed medication without first consulting a physician can also endanger your health. If symptoms persist, seek professional medical attention. Bear in mind that even minor symptoms can be a sign of a more serious underlying condition, and a timely diagnosis by your doctor could save your life.
So,there is nothing wrong in advising the patient to be cautious with prescriptions.
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Highlighted from the above passage.
'It is possible that advice given here may be dangerous, and you should make your own checks that it is safe.'
This is what abc says. This is what I am saying too.
Why do people worry?
'It is possible that advice given here may be dangerous, and you should make your own checks that it is safe.'
This is what abc says. This is what I am saying too.
Why do people worry?
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Homeopathy Constable Bandar is the terrorist here, working for some alien concern to finish this site.
kuldeep last decade
Dear friends,
I don't think that the abchomeopathy forum is so weak as to succumb to a virus or two.It has a strong anti virus package scanning and eliminating them as they arise.
Dr.Deoshlok or his friends are free to decide what they wish to do with their free time.But i don't think it is ethical trying to gang up and try to force the moderator to give in to this sort of a ridiculous demand.I don't think that it will work.
Besides, on the internet, where there is free traffic and the rules of participation at each forum are quite well laid out, trying to arm twist some forum by these tactics is a very silly idea.To me at least.
I remember many prescribers who were regulars here a few years back.People like Sabra, Passkey, John Stanton etc.They are no longer active on this forum.But this forum has only become stronger and better with time.
So, i don't see how a few people choosing not to participate is going to affect it in any way.
People come and people go but life keeps flowing.Those who learn to flow with life, reach their destination while others don't.
Any way.All the best.
Rajiv
I don't think that the abchomeopathy forum is so weak as to succumb to a virus or two.It has a strong anti virus package scanning and eliminating them as they arise.
Dr.Deoshlok or his friends are free to decide what they wish to do with their free time.But i don't think it is ethical trying to gang up and try to force the moderator to give in to this sort of a ridiculous demand.I don't think that it will work.
Besides, on the internet, where there is free traffic and the rules of participation at each forum are quite well laid out, trying to arm twist some forum by these tactics is a very silly idea.To me at least.
I remember many prescribers who were regulars here a few years back.People like Sabra, Passkey, John Stanton etc.They are no longer active on this forum.But this forum has only become stronger and better with time.
So, i don't see how a few people choosing not to participate is going to affect it in any way.
People come and people go but life keeps flowing.Those who learn to flow with life, reach their destination while others don't.
Any way.All the best.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
I'm sorry, I couldn't even begin to comment on the first post of this thread. Sensationalising a subject does not give your point anymore credence, and in fact the whole thing shows a great lack of understanding of the subject, and no one was terrorised Mr Kuldeep, it was for the good of the patients this matter was raised, Homoeopathy being a system of medicine afterall?
Hahnemania last decade
This certainly has gotten ugly while I've been away, my my, what have I started.
It is odd though that the ones who are rebelling the most are those who know as well as we all do, from a Homoeopathic perspective, as defined by the rules laid down by the old man himself, they don't have a leg to stand on. We have the words of HAhnemann and 200 years of Empirical observation to support us, what do you all have?
It is odd though that the ones who are rebelling the most are those who know as well as we all do, from a Homoeopathic perspective, as defined by the rules laid down by the old man himself, they don't have a leg to stand on. We have the words of HAhnemann and 200 years of Empirical observation to support us, what do you all have?
Hahnemania last decade
The topic initiator is a back-stabber sadistic pervert.
His man-friday is a self-glorifyer with a mono-babbling attitude.
And dozens and dozens of multiple proxy login i.d.'s., to self support / Prop them
THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE.
His man-friday is a self-glorifyer with a mono-babbling attitude.
And dozens and dozens of multiple proxy login i.d.'s., to self support / Prop them
THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE.
Nesha-India last decade
I would like to copy and paste a series of posts from another thread which will give those interested in the present sorry state of the ABC which has been caused by an individual who seems to have been banished from another Homeopathic forum and is compelled to spend his time here on the ABC to the consternation of members.
It is possible that he is suffering from Schizophrenia right now and it would be in his interest to treat this diagnosis seriously and consult his colleagues for a possible cure.
Here are the posts that were made by him a few months ago which show him in a different light to the pest that he has turned out to be on the ABC today.
He has admitted that he has no sense of SHAME as you can read in his post on
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/91406/
Re: The theory of suppression From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I am joining this thread with a copy and paste of a part of which I shall copy below as it is relevant to the debate.
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
Thank you Sajjad for your confirmation that even you do use Nat Phos 6x for indgestion, as I do myself when necessary which today is very rarely.
You will no doubt realize that we risk an attack from the homeopathic constable who is infesting this forum but I have decided after many posts in rebuttal to show him that there is more to Homeopathy than only his hyper-classical stance but unfortunately he seems beyond redemption and just refuses to even consider that my direct method does in fact help patients as evidenced on this and other forums that both you and I visit.
It seems to me possible that he has been hired by some interested members of the classical school who resented my onslaughts into their private domain which I have done for some time on many forums whenever these classical types went out of their way to criticize me sometimes in the lowest terms.
One member even went to the level of coining a new word 'Joepathy' to describe my prescribing a remedy for the ailment on what he thought was a 'this for that' basis. To their chagrin however this term Joepathy which was first used in a derisive manner seems to have stuck and is now often used by many members insluding Murthy and has even been picked up by the Search Engines, thereby negating the original purpose for which it was coined.
I would like to confirm that I too use the classical approach with my Radar software which I feel is the sine qua non for a classical diagnosis and prescription. I use it whenever I am confronted with a case which I am not familiar with and it has helped me many times to arrive at a diagnosis.
Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
sigh..
Murthy
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I notice that you often resort to
' sigh '
whenever you are cornered.
Have you no sense of SHAME ?
Murthy
Avoid doing things to others which will make you red when others do it to you.
Mahabharat-Hindu Epic
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Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
no.
It is possible that he is suffering from Schizophrenia right now and it would be in his interest to treat this diagnosis seriously and consult his colleagues for a possible cure.
Here are the posts that were made by him a few months ago which show him in a different light to the pest that he has turned out to be on the ABC today.
He has admitted that he has no sense of SHAME as you can read in his post on
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/91406/
Re: The theory of suppression From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I am joining this thread with a copy and paste of a part of which I shall copy below as it is relevant to the debate.
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
Thank you Sajjad for your confirmation that even you do use Nat Phos 6x for indgestion, as I do myself when necessary which today is very rarely.
You will no doubt realize that we risk an attack from the homeopathic constable who is infesting this forum but I have decided after many posts in rebuttal to show him that there is more to Homeopathy than only his hyper-classical stance but unfortunately he seems beyond redemption and just refuses to even consider that my direct method does in fact help patients as evidenced on this and other forums that both you and I visit.
It seems to me possible that he has been hired by some interested members of the classical school who resented my onslaughts into their private domain which I have done for some time on many forums whenever these classical types went out of their way to criticize me sometimes in the lowest terms.
One member even went to the level of coining a new word 'Joepathy' to describe my prescribing a remedy for the ailment on what he thought was a 'this for that' basis. To their chagrin however this term Joepathy which was first used in a derisive manner seems to have stuck and is now often used by many members insluding Murthy and has even been picked up by the Search Engines, thereby negating the original purpose for which it was coined.
I would like to confirm that I too use the classical approach with my Radar software which I feel is the sine qua non for a classical diagnosis and prescription. I use it whenever I am confronted with a case which I am not familiar with and it has helped me many times to arrive at a diagnosis.
Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
sigh..
Murthy
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I notice that you often resort to
' sigh '
whenever you are cornered.
Have you no sense of SHAME ?
Murthy
Avoid doing things to others which will make you red when others do it to you.
Mahabharat-Hindu Epic
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Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
no.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe, if you have a problem in your store, with pickpockets robbing your customers, would it be 'terrorism' to put up signs warning them that this was a possible danger?
ripas last decade
To Ripas
I note that you have made an analogy of Murthy's pronouncements on his version of classical homeopathy with pickpockets robbing customers in my chain of showrooms. To me your analogy seems far fetched as on the one hand pickpockets will operate wherever there is a crowd and they do not have to only operate within the walls of our organization. No amount of notices will reduce their incidence nor will the general public be any more impressed with them.
In Murthy's case we resent the constant irritation that he projects with his inane posts which compel me and others to waste our time away from the main purpose of our being present on the forums which is to help those who post their ailments. You may have noticed that Murthy has not deigned to help patients other than just a handful and the patients who have shown obvious signs of cure like in the case of the Fistula, Eczema, Asthma and so many others whom I and the others are treating which he butts in and warns patients of the dire consequences that according to him, follow if they do not stop their therapy forthwith. He expects me and my patients to await his official sanction and confirmation that the therapy that has already worked is OK and that they can continue to use these remedies. It surprises me to note that he is still permitted on this forum as although I suspected that he was kicked out of his Hpathy forum he does not post on it in the manner that he used to do in the past since he joind it a few years ago.
Remember that we have only read Murthy's rantings about how any remedy when used daily will cause aggravation but this theory I have disproved with my daily use of Arnica 30c in the wet dose. Murthy can treat his own patients and I wish his patients well but the chances of his outdoing me on this forum are remote as I have a certain aura of love and dedication that I project to patients who reciprocate by often addressing their post to me personally, all of which is anathema to Murthy who seems to be badly in need of help for his own mental state as evidenced by his posts on this forum a few days ago which were more in the nature of a raving lunatic and had to be deleted by the moderator.
Has it ever occurred to you that Murthy may be just another hypocrite masquerading under the guise of 'PROTECTING' homeopathy from the onslaughts from persons like me and a few others who have spent many hours of our free time in trying to help those who post on this forum in the hope of a cure ? We have yet to see his prowess in healing which he has admitted today only dates back 4 years. In comparison you may be interested to know that my record dates back from 1968 when I was healed of an ailment by homeopathy and I was at that time a confirmed skeptic who did not believe in Homeopathy as it seemed to me so very illogical. This is what prompted me to study it and the more I studied it the greater was my amazement that this science, although it did not follow the standard logical process of thought, had the uncanny ability to heal in a manner that was almost miraculous. It was a few years later, about 1975 that I first decided to experiment as Murthy himself has done only 4 years ago with using standard remedies which I had obtained from Mumbai to treat myself and my immediate family and when my staff numbering over 500 at that time became aware of the fact that I seemed to have what they felt was a 'magic tough' they all decided to come to me for help. I then continued with my studies and was first introduced into the Classical mode of treatment which I finally debunked as being a mere figment of the imagination of interested parties to keep Homeopathy strictly within the fold of their classical fraternity which I felt then and am convinced today is purely a ruse to generate more and more revenue. I had by this time decided that I would used my own initiative in treating patients whom up to today I have always done on a purely voluntary basis free of all monetary compensation as I felt that the gift that many thought that I had of healing which I seem to have inherited from my forefathers who were historically recorded as being famous Ayurvedic physicians one of whom cured the last King of Kandy of some unknown ailment.
Even today I feel that it is that inherited love of healing that impels me forward in spite of Murthy's vituperative posts directed against me which he has admitted only yesterday that he is doing without any shame at how his whole character has changed for the worse in the past 6 months since he was the normal homeopath who would help patients as I proved with his own posts on the Hpathy forum only yesterday. I felt that my Homeopathy was a gift that I could not use for any gain as I counted on the good God to reward me in His own time. He has done so in a manner that even surprises me as at my age when my close friends of my age group are no more, I still seem to have the zest of a person many years my junior which I have dedicated to healing in my own way which I have proved to be eminently effective.
The presence of my 2 sons in the business which they joined after returning from their post graduate studies one in Music and the other in Economics a few years ago gave me more free time to use to help patients. I added to my stock of remedies and right now I have over 550 remedies in varying potencies which I use in my own way which is the direct 'this for that' way also now known as 'Joepathy' which was first used as a derisive description of my healing methods about which Murthy sometimes dissolves into paroxysms of rage in his efforts to warn patients who have been treated by me successfully as he can see for himself on the threads that he infests. It is pathetic to see how he rages through his post scattering warnings about and doing his utmost to warn my patients. It is ironic that some have just told him rudely to get lost. He still persists in bugging almost every one of my posts and it is interesting that the other homeopaths wait upon his pronouncements with baited breath irrespective of the fact that all his ravings about his own brand of hyper classical homeopathy may be all classifiable as 'bull s**t'. The point that I wish to make here is that none has so far dared to confront Murthy on his pronouncements which so far have been based merely on warnings to the unsuspecting patient when it may be discovered if and when he suggests the classical in his own time, that it may be one that is far removed from the remedy that others like me may have used. We shall have to await his pleasure till such time as he commences to prescribe when it is quite possible that we may be able to pay him back with his own coin and bug his post as he has bugged ours. It is more than possible that his own patients whom he seeks to cure with his classical remedies may turn upon him in disgust when they discover that his prescriptions do not work.
It is interesting to note that his hyper classical knowledge of homeopathy dates back on his own admission to only 4 years back and it is interesting to compare the experience that Pankaj and I have had in this science which in my case I first started to help others in 1975 up to today. Only time will prove whether his scant knowledge of homeopathy which he pretends to know virtually backwards may turn to be another figment of his imagination from which we may ourselves have to save the patients on this forum
My antipathy against classical homeopathy is due to the simple fact that I discovered that no two homeopaths will prescribe the same remedy for an ailment which each will evaluate based on his own studies in the classical stream which I have been spared as I have done my own studies and also have the experience of thousands of cases that I have treated with success. I do not have any hesitation in prescribing the same remedy for another patient who presents with the same ailment as I have invariably discovered that it is by no means essential to find the similimum as the Joepathy method invariably works more positively and quickly. I respect your views but not those of Murthy who has crossed the fine line of decency of what one expects from a fellow human being which does not only encompass Homeopathy. It is just the fact that he is completely without SHAME as he himself admits but he infests this and other forums like the proverbial bull in the china shop, causing so much unnecessary consternation and ill feeling which is the hallmark of those demented.
I do realize that I and a few others who post on this and other forums are marked men but this will not make any difference to me today after over 25 years of actively helping patients with my Joepathy which I am glad to note is slowly catching up in the Indian subcontinent, without any help from me as reported by a qualified homeopath who posted today who confirmed that he and his boss used my direct system.
I am convinced that the image of classical homeopathy will wane slowly but surely as the world wakes up to the subterfuge that has been perpetrated by qualified classical homeopaths who unlike Murthy are still prepared to use the direct system because they have discovered that it works although they do not openly admit the fact as they fear that they will run afoul of their homeopathic license. It is my hope that I will live to see the day that more homeopaths will make bold to admit as Monachand, the homeopath from Ludhiana has done today on this forum, that he and his boss did not discover any negative impact in their use of the homeopathic method on a this for that basis, that I use in common with the large majority of Homeopaths in the Indian subcontinent.
I note that you have made an analogy of Murthy's pronouncements on his version of classical homeopathy with pickpockets robbing customers in my chain of showrooms. To me your analogy seems far fetched as on the one hand pickpockets will operate wherever there is a crowd and they do not have to only operate within the walls of our organization. No amount of notices will reduce their incidence nor will the general public be any more impressed with them.
In Murthy's case we resent the constant irritation that he projects with his inane posts which compel me and others to waste our time away from the main purpose of our being present on the forums which is to help those who post their ailments. You may have noticed that Murthy has not deigned to help patients other than just a handful and the patients who have shown obvious signs of cure like in the case of the Fistula, Eczema, Asthma and so many others whom I and the others are treating which he butts in and warns patients of the dire consequences that according to him, follow if they do not stop their therapy forthwith. He expects me and my patients to await his official sanction and confirmation that the therapy that has already worked is OK and that they can continue to use these remedies. It surprises me to note that he is still permitted on this forum as although I suspected that he was kicked out of his Hpathy forum he does not post on it in the manner that he used to do in the past since he joind it a few years ago.
Remember that we have only read Murthy's rantings about how any remedy when used daily will cause aggravation but this theory I have disproved with my daily use of Arnica 30c in the wet dose. Murthy can treat his own patients and I wish his patients well but the chances of his outdoing me on this forum are remote as I have a certain aura of love and dedication that I project to patients who reciprocate by often addressing their post to me personally, all of which is anathema to Murthy who seems to be badly in need of help for his own mental state as evidenced by his posts on this forum a few days ago which were more in the nature of a raving lunatic and had to be deleted by the moderator.
Has it ever occurred to you that Murthy may be just another hypocrite masquerading under the guise of 'PROTECTING' homeopathy from the onslaughts from persons like me and a few others who have spent many hours of our free time in trying to help those who post on this forum in the hope of a cure ? We have yet to see his prowess in healing which he has admitted today only dates back 4 years. In comparison you may be interested to know that my record dates back from 1968 when I was healed of an ailment by homeopathy and I was at that time a confirmed skeptic who did not believe in Homeopathy as it seemed to me so very illogical. This is what prompted me to study it and the more I studied it the greater was my amazement that this science, although it did not follow the standard logical process of thought, had the uncanny ability to heal in a manner that was almost miraculous. It was a few years later, about 1975 that I first decided to experiment as Murthy himself has done only 4 years ago with using standard remedies which I had obtained from Mumbai to treat myself and my immediate family and when my staff numbering over 500 at that time became aware of the fact that I seemed to have what they felt was a 'magic tough' they all decided to come to me for help. I then continued with my studies and was first introduced into the Classical mode of treatment which I finally debunked as being a mere figment of the imagination of interested parties to keep Homeopathy strictly within the fold of their classical fraternity which I felt then and am convinced today is purely a ruse to generate more and more revenue. I had by this time decided that I would used my own initiative in treating patients whom up to today I have always done on a purely voluntary basis free of all monetary compensation as I felt that the gift that many thought that I had of healing which I seem to have inherited from my forefathers who were historically recorded as being famous Ayurvedic physicians one of whom cured the last King of Kandy of some unknown ailment.
Even today I feel that it is that inherited love of healing that impels me forward in spite of Murthy's vituperative posts directed against me which he has admitted only yesterday that he is doing without any shame at how his whole character has changed for the worse in the past 6 months since he was the normal homeopath who would help patients as I proved with his own posts on the Hpathy forum only yesterday. I felt that my Homeopathy was a gift that I could not use for any gain as I counted on the good God to reward me in His own time. He has done so in a manner that even surprises me as at my age when my close friends of my age group are no more, I still seem to have the zest of a person many years my junior which I have dedicated to healing in my own way which I have proved to be eminently effective.
The presence of my 2 sons in the business which they joined after returning from their post graduate studies one in Music and the other in Economics a few years ago gave me more free time to use to help patients. I added to my stock of remedies and right now I have over 550 remedies in varying potencies which I use in my own way which is the direct 'this for that' way also now known as 'Joepathy' which was first used as a derisive description of my healing methods about which Murthy sometimes dissolves into paroxysms of rage in his efforts to warn patients who have been treated by me successfully as he can see for himself on the threads that he infests. It is pathetic to see how he rages through his post scattering warnings about and doing his utmost to warn my patients. It is ironic that some have just told him rudely to get lost. He still persists in bugging almost every one of my posts and it is interesting that the other homeopaths wait upon his pronouncements with baited breath irrespective of the fact that all his ravings about his own brand of hyper classical homeopathy may be all classifiable as 'bull s**t'. The point that I wish to make here is that none has so far dared to confront Murthy on his pronouncements which so far have been based merely on warnings to the unsuspecting patient when it may be discovered if and when he suggests the classical in his own time, that it may be one that is far removed from the remedy that others like me may have used. We shall have to await his pleasure till such time as he commences to prescribe when it is quite possible that we may be able to pay him back with his own coin and bug his post as he has bugged ours. It is more than possible that his own patients whom he seeks to cure with his classical remedies may turn upon him in disgust when they discover that his prescriptions do not work.
It is interesting to note that his hyper classical knowledge of homeopathy dates back on his own admission to only 4 years back and it is interesting to compare the experience that Pankaj and I have had in this science which in my case I first started to help others in 1975 up to today. Only time will prove whether his scant knowledge of homeopathy which he pretends to know virtually backwards may turn to be another figment of his imagination from which we may ourselves have to save the patients on this forum
My antipathy against classical homeopathy is due to the simple fact that I discovered that no two homeopaths will prescribe the same remedy for an ailment which each will evaluate based on his own studies in the classical stream which I have been spared as I have done my own studies and also have the experience of thousands of cases that I have treated with success. I do not have any hesitation in prescribing the same remedy for another patient who presents with the same ailment as I have invariably discovered that it is by no means essential to find the similimum as the Joepathy method invariably works more positively and quickly. I respect your views but not those of Murthy who has crossed the fine line of decency of what one expects from a fellow human being which does not only encompass Homeopathy. It is just the fact that he is completely without SHAME as he himself admits but he infests this and other forums like the proverbial bull in the china shop, causing so much unnecessary consternation and ill feeling which is the hallmark of those demented.
I do realize that I and a few others who post on this and other forums are marked men but this will not make any difference to me today after over 25 years of actively helping patients with my Joepathy which I am glad to note is slowly catching up in the Indian subcontinent, without any help from me as reported by a qualified homeopath who posted today who confirmed that he and his boss used my direct system.
I am convinced that the image of classical homeopathy will wane slowly but surely as the world wakes up to the subterfuge that has been perpetrated by qualified classical homeopaths who unlike Murthy are still prepared to use the direct system because they have discovered that it works although they do not openly admit the fact as they fear that they will run afoul of their homeopathic license. It is my hope that I will live to see the day that more homeopaths will make bold to admit as Monachand, the homeopath from Ludhiana has done today on this forum, that he and his boss did not discover any negative impact in their use of the homeopathic method on a this for that basis, that I use in common with the large majority of Homeopaths in the Indian subcontinent.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Nov 23, 2006 Ottawa, Canada
Dear Joe and Gavin Murthy
Well Arnica is a wonderful and essential homeo medicine You know my BP is completely normal because of Joe's kind prescription Wet dose really worked well as also other areas of my problems In fact one of my allopathic doctor she started prescribing Arnic 30 for her patients She is a general surgeoon of Orthopaedics and Arthiritis She is very glad to use these medicines I gave her oneof Dr Ashraff's book on Muscular Pain and she bought it immly and usingit
Homeopathy is really good so long as the prescription suits the patient as per his/her constitution of body
Joe you are really great with your inventions in homeopathy
God bless you myself and my wife offer our respects for your kind prescriptions
Yours truly
hare krishna mani
Dear Joe and Gavin Murthy
Well Arnica is a wonderful and essential homeo medicine You know my BP is completely normal because of Joe's kind prescription Wet dose really worked well as also other areas of my problems In fact one of my allopathic doctor she started prescribing Arnic 30 for her patients She is a general surgeoon of Orthopaedics and Arthiritis She is very glad to use these medicines I gave her oneof Dr Ashraff's book on Muscular Pain and she bought it immly and usingit
Homeopathy is really good so long as the prescription suits the patient as per his/her constitution of body
Joe you are really great with your inventions in homeopathy
God bless you myself and my wife offer our respects for your kind prescriptions
Yours truly
hare krishna mani
radhekrishna last decade
Dear 'adhekrishna'.
Would you mind posting more details of your case, or the URL to the thread where the original prescription was made etc...just for everybodies interest, and for Mr De Livera's own benefit too, as I am sure he would not want anyone to accuse him of just getting someone to post on his behalf...
Many thanks.
-Jacob.
Would you mind posting more details of your case, or the URL to the thread where the original prescription was made etc...just for everybodies interest, and for Mr De Livera's own benefit too, as I am sure he would not want anyone to accuse him of just getting someone to post on his behalf...
Many thanks.
-Jacob.
JCS2006 last decade
Dear Krishna
It is nice to see you back on the ABC again after a lapse of about 6 months.
I am delighted to note that that your BP is completely normal and that you still take Arnica which I remember I prescribed about 2 years ago.
You have returned at a critical time for me and the other resident prescribers on the ABC as you may have seen that we have 2 trolls both of whom do not have any qualification in homeopathy like me but who still pretend that they are the cat's whiskers in promoting their own brand of hyper classical homeopathy which I believe you too were suffering from when you consulted doctors and later classical homeopaths very early in the treatment of your ailments years ago.
It would be of general interest for members of the ABC and also these trolls if you can please record your case history for the benefit of these detractors whose sole aim is to vilify me because I have been able to help so many thousands of patients on the ABC and other forums that I visit.
These 2 trolls have concentrated their attacks on me for the last 2 months with the obvious intention of forcing me to abandon the ABC but I have decided to respond to their inane posts by attacking them in the same manner that they attack me. It is unfortunate that in doing so, I have to expend the time that I could have spent in helping my patients who depend on me for assistance, in responding to their taunts which you will see have reached a fever pitch that has never been experienced before in any forum of this nature. It was ironic that one of them even boasted how he was responsible for the increase of the posts on the ABC from 60 to 90 which he claimed was due to his presence on the forum when he would shadow each post that I make in response to my patients.
If you read some of their posts you will notice that their presence on the ABC is NOT to help any patient but only to keep on attacking me as it obvious that they both derive some sadistic pleasure in doing so. You may like to know that they were both banned by Simon Broadley the moderator of the ABC but they have both returned under other aliases which Simon does not know how to use to ban them permanently.
Please respond by posting your case history with reference to your previous posts to enable members and those interested in this ongoing harassment that I have to endure on a daily basis, as to how my Joepathy helped your case.
Joe De Livera
It is nice to see you back on the ABC again after a lapse of about 6 months.
I am delighted to note that that your BP is completely normal and that you still take Arnica which I remember I prescribed about 2 years ago.
You have returned at a critical time for me and the other resident prescribers on the ABC as you may have seen that we have 2 trolls both of whom do not have any qualification in homeopathy like me but who still pretend that they are the cat's whiskers in promoting their own brand of hyper classical homeopathy which I believe you too were suffering from when you consulted doctors and later classical homeopaths very early in the treatment of your ailments years ago.
It would be of general interest for members of the ABC and also these trolls if you can please record your case history for the benefit of these detractors whose sole aim is to vilify me because I have been able to help so many thousands of patients on the ABC and other forums that I visit.
These 2 trolls have concentrated their attacks on me for the last 2 months with the obvious intention of forcing me to abandon the ABC but I have decided to respond to their inane posts by attacking them in the same manner that they attack me. It is unfortunate that in doing so, I have to expend the time that I could have spent in helping my patients who depend on me for assistance, in responding to their taunts which you will see have reached a fever pitch that has never been experienced before in any forum of this nature. It was ironic that one of them even boasted how he was responsible for the increase of the posts on the ABC from 60 to 90 which he claimed was due to his presence on the forum when he would shadow each post that I make in response to my patients.
If you read some of their posts you will notice that their presence on the ABC is NOT to help any patient but only to keep on attacking me as it obvious that they both derive some sadistic pleasure in doing so. You may like to know that they were both banned by Simon Broadley the moderator of the ABC but they have both returned under other aliases which Simon does not know how to use to ban them permanently.
Please respond by posting your case history with reference to your previous posts to enable members and those interested in this ongoing harassment that I have to endure on a daily basis, as to how my Joepathy helped your case.
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Such paranoia, and hatred. I am just asking questions for the purposes of scientific evaluation, I do not know what anyone else here is doing, and um, an actual registered qualification I may not have, but I have completed all formal training, formal study, and have 12 years of clinical practice experience, I don't quite the same can be said of the poster of the comments. He of course has yet to fill everybody in on his actual credentials...
JCS2006 last decade
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