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Can lower potencies alike crude to higher?
As per 'Let like cure likes' any accumulated substance showing disease symptoms in system, can be treated by potentised remedy of the same substance.Under this consideration 'lower potencies of any remedy should also act as or like crude/raw remedy substance for its next higher potencies.' Accordingly, next higher potencies should be able to treat the effects & symptoms i.e. aggravation, proving symptoms etc. created by its lower potencies, as well should also be able to antidote the lower potencies.
So, when one remedy(true simili.) is selected & prescribed in lower potencies & which showing no effect or adverse effects as agg.,proving symptoms etc.--may be due to lower potency selection instead of wrong remedy. Under this circumstance, it can be a mistake to change the remedy but suggesting higher potencies can produce the required effects on right direction.
Can you comment on this aspect?
Logical on 2004-09-29
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As requested, can you tell any remedy which covers all or most symptoms of Nat Phos, Ferrum Phos & Calc.Fluor? Does PHYTOLACCA matches with these?
Logical 2 decades ago
Sorry, my previous posting was meant for my other topic on Ank.Spo.
Under this consideration, we should try to understand 'Multiple & Just Opposite' type symptoms sometimes mentioned in MMs & Reps. against ONE REMEDY. It may be just due to this type effect by using Lower, Medium & Higher Potencies
Under this consideration, we should try to understand 'Multiple & Just Opposite' type symptoms sometimes mentioned in MMs & Reps. against ONE REMEDY. It may be just due to this type effect by using Lower, Medium & Higher Potencies
Logical 2 decades ago
maybe--but unless find rep and MM's that distiguish validated data as such-then just pure speculation...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Silicea in lower potencies promote pus/suppration & abort it BUT in higher potencies absorb it.
Logical 2 decades ago
Hepar Sulf. also acts in the same way as Silicea in respect of low and high potencies.
Homeopathy is a complex business !!!!
Rhus Tox doesn't work in low potencies i.e. below 200c
Many more examples available.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
Homeopathy is a complex business !!!!
Rhus Tox doesn't work in low potencies i.e. below 200c
Many more examples available.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
On the other hand certain medicines like viburnum opulus work best in mother tincture form.
For these tips you have to read materia medica extensively.No repertory will tell you about these things.
Murthy
For these tips you have to read materia medica extensively.No repertory will tell you about these things.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 2 decades ago
Pankaj,Murty,
We can find so many opposing symptoms against several remedies in MMs. It is quite logical to think in consideration of homeopathic theory that potentised substances can cure effect shown by their comparative lower potencies or raw remedy substances(RRS). In other words, we can also say comparatively higher potencies can cure(antidote also) effects as produced by their lower potencies or RRS. Accordingly,"Proving Symptoms" can also be thought as "low potencies or RRS symptoms".
We can find so many opposing symptoms against several remedies in MMs. It is quite logical to think in consideration of homeopathic theory that potentised substances can cure effect shown by their comparative lower potencies or raw remedy substances(RRS). In other words, we can also say comparatively higher potencies can cure(antidote also) effects as produced by their lower potencies or RRS. Accordingly,"Proving Symptoms" can also be thought as "low potencies or RRS symptoms".
Logical 2 decades ago
bandarbabu2000 2 decades ago
Murthy,
We finds opposing symptoms in MMs against same remedy. It may be because symptoms as presented in proving may show symptoms of both lower & higher potencies. Means: you can use same remedy for two types of symptoms. One as proving symptoms in low potency & other to correct those symptoms by higher potencies.
We finds opposing symptoms in MMs against same remedy. It may be because symptoms as presented in proving may show symptoms of both lower & higher potencies. Means: you can use same remedy for two types of symptoms. One as proving symptoms in low potency & other to correct those symptoms by higher potencies.
Logical 2 decades ago
Logical
If you are talking about the examples of silicea,hepar sulf being able to produce as well as absorb uppuration,you are right.
But such medicines are few I think.
Murthy
If you are talking about the examples of silicea,hepar sulf being able to produce as well as absorb uppuration,you are right.
But such medicines are few I think.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 2 decades ago
Logical, Murthy and all others !
I was busy commenting on other things ...could not find much time for this.....however....I can share my clarity on this.
Yes the MM shows opposing symptoms for the same medicine.
Example:
Nux Vomica and Aloe;
You will find constipation and frequent motions both under these two meds.
Yes these are totally opposite symptoms.
The important thing to understand is that both these meds will work on the digestive system and whatever be the imbalance....it will be rectified and balance restored.
Iodium:
Works both for hyper-thyroid and hypo-thyroid conditions.
The same principle applies...the balance in the "vital force" is restored !
Maybe...in due course I can give more examples !
(Rushed for time).
Best,
Pankaj Varma
I was busy commenting on other things ...could not find much time for this.....however....I can share my clarity on this.
Yes the MM shows opposing symptoms for the same medicine.
Example:
Nux Vomica and Aloe;
You will find constipation and frequent motions both under these two meds.
Yes these are totally opposite symptoms.
The important thing to understand is that both these meds will work on the digestive system and whatever be the imbalance....it will be rectified and balance restored.
Iodium:
Works both for hyper-thyroid and hypo-thyroid conditions.
The same principle applies...the balance in the "vital force" is restored !
Maybe...in due course I can give more examples !
(Rushed for time).
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
Pankaj,
Thanks. I have posted following in "Types of aggravations" topic, but since relevant, I also posting here:-
"Technically looking as physiological effects, aggravations can be due to many reasons:-
1.By addition: if a bio-chemical in in excess but still working. If you add to it in crude or in some lower potencies, it will aggravate same symptoms. Increasing the potency should work.
2. By initiation of cure:- if a biochemical is in excess, accumulated but not working(as insulin resistance). When you initiate cure or excite cell to assimilate that bio-chemical which is in excess, cells just awaken & find excess of biochemical, so just get toxicity at initial levels. Higher the potency higher will be the awakening effect so higher will be the aggravation. Wait & watch or lowering the potency or starting low potencies can work.
3.By homostatis: Most of bio-chemicals have its competiting & complementary other bio-chemicals.On initiation of cure of any excess bio-chemical--it can also effect its conterpart or competiting & complementary other bio-chemicals. It may produce some differant symptoms. Wait & watch or assessing the new situation can be the goal.
Aggravation usually means right remedy is selected.
I have just tried to explain it physiologically in broad sense."
Can you comment on this?
Thanks. I have posted following in "Types of aggravations" topic, but since relevant, I also posting here:-
"Technically looking as physiological effects, aggravations can be due to many reasons:-
1.By addition: if a bio-chemical in in excess but still working. If you add to it in crude or in some lower potencies, it will aggravate same symptoms. Increasing the potency should work.
2. By initiation of cure:- if a biochemical is in excess, accumulated but not working(as insulin resistance). When you initiate cure or excite cell to assimilate that bio-chemical which is in excess, cells just awaken & find excess of biochemical, so just get toxicity at initial levels. Higher the potency higher will be the awakening effect so higher will be the aggravation. Wait & watch or lowering the potency or starting low potencies can work.
3.By homostatis: Most of bio-chemicals have its competiting & complementary other bio-chemicals.On initiation of cure of any excess bio-chemical--it can also effect its conterpart or competiting & complementary other bio-chemicals. It may produce some differant symptoms. Wait & watch or assessing the new situation can be the goal.
Aggravation usually means right remedy is selected.
I have just tried to explain it physiologically in broad sense."
Can you comment on this?
Logical 2 decades ago
Logical,
Your explaination of aggravtions is very useful.
Will need some time to comment on it....going through some un-usually busy days.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
Your explaination of aggravtions is very useful.
Will need some time to comment on it....going through some un-usually busy days.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
Gads, I just picked this up. No one will like my opinion on this.
I have nearly 400 remedies. Finding an efficient way to keep at hand with all the other supplies is not easy.
If I carry even 2 potencies of each remedy, my double closet would be running over.
So, many years ago I stopped telling clients what the potency is of the remedy given. They used to get upset even tho thet didn't know the difference. So I buy what is available.
I began telling them that this remedy, "Matches the needs of the body and will only use what it needs." This was comforting and was well received.
This is somewhat how Hahnemann did in a ward of people with flu and such. He carried a pitcher of water with the remedies in it and gave each patient a little drink. But he was a doctor, no one questioned him.
Years ago one could get lower potencies easily. Now one sees 30C and LM mostly offered. While not my first choice sometimes, I have not found the remedy working any less sucessful. And I have not had adverse responses.
Yes, lower pot. are closer to crude, but I believe that it is the cause of the Medical arena trying interfere and has stired everyone up. In Hahnemann's day most potencies were way less than 200X, way less.
Fuss all you want, I will not argue. Sabra
I have nearly 400 remedies. Finding an efficient way to keep at hand with all the other supplies is not easy.
If I carry even 2 potencies of each remedy, my double closet would be running over.
So, many years ago I stopped telling clients what the potency is of the remedy given. They used to get upset even tho thet didn't know the difference. So I buy what is available.
I began telling them that this remedy, "Matches the needs of the body and will only use what it needs." This was comforting and was well received.
This is somewhat how Hahnemann did in a ward of people with flu and such. He carried a pitcher of water with the remedies in it and gave each patient a little drink. But he was a doctor, no one questioned him.
Years ago one could get lower potencies easily. Now one sees 30C and LM mostly offered. While not my first choice sometimes, I have not found the remedy working any less sucessful. And I have not had adverse responses.
Yes, lower pot. are closer to crude, but I believe that it is the cause of the Medical arena trying interfere and has stired everyone up. In Hahnemann's day most potencies were way less than 200X, way less.
Fuss all you want, I will not argue. Sabra
♡ sabra 2 decades ago
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