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Reaction from Pseudo Homeopathy
HiPlease can you advise me on what to do following reading your article I am in a very worried state about the ways in which I have followed homeopathy in the last year. My son is two at 9 months he had a very bad reaction to his 5 in 1 Men C jab. We used cranial ostopathy and eventually homeopathy and he has recoved well, his initial experience with homeopathy was silica 50c, it appeared to make him posset and after discussion with the homeopath within ten days she wanted him to attend again. For which she expected full fee that was my last visit with her. Since then I have used other homeopaths who have recommended from one rememdy to several. I have tried to just use one as in hepar sulph and bella donna for viral type sickness which would tend to be the main problem but have also used gelselium and euphrasia at 30c. My son continues to have sleeping problems and is on three bottles at night which I admit is just pure bad managment on my part. I went to a homeopath last week who put him on homeopathic microflora which has four ingredients colostrum 6x ventrux 5x lactobacillus 12x bacteriodium 30x she also gave him a homeopathic remedy with no name and no potency on it which I did not give and two flower remedies. which I did give needless to say he has not improved and now has a croupy cough. I am at my wits end to try and do the right thing for my son, he has had so many antibiotics for ear infections since the reaction and has also had two antibiotics for a penis infection. I don't know what to do for the best I just want to do the right thing. I try to feed him all the right things but now feel I have failed miserably as a parent by using homeopathy so badly when I really did think it was so harmless that it couldn't harm him and may have done so. Can you give me any advice on what I need to do as I feel very worrried about this. Also I took sulphur 200c in pregnancy for sleeping problems I am 16 weeks. I am very fearful that I have done the wrong thing.
Regards
Frankie
♥ gavinimurthy on 2006-11-12
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Stop all medications forthwith,and post his present condition in detail.
Tell about all the problems he has now.Don't leave out anything.
Since he is only around three years old, he will be in a position to come out of the bad effects of pseudo homeopathy.
So,don't worry.We will help you.He will be alright.
Murthy
Tell about all the problems he has now.Don't leave out anything.
Since he is only around three years old, he will be in a position to come out of the bad effects of pseudo homeopathy.
So,don't worry.We will help you.He will be alright.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Murthy
Thank you. His current condition: Has just recovered from penis infection, 3 weeks ago. Had augmentin duo on which spiked high temp and was taken off and put on zinnat which caused terrible diarroea, and a very bad sounding chesty cough but was found to have a clear chest was prescribed ventolin but did not give as I thought it was crazy to prescribe and treated him with bella donna chest cleared when antibiotic finished. Had to finish course as they would not acknowledge that it was causing other symptoms and did not want to compromise him with another antibioic in the future. Last two weeks he was well apart from sleeping which never really goes well since reaction so took him to a new homeopath who prescribed all the above listed so just don't know what to do, stopped the microflora after 3 days as was very unsure about it. The other med is not named and has no potency, so did not give, tried to ring as with others did not return call. Should note he is not yet two this has all happened in 14 months. He developed croup two nights ago gave him hepar sulph. we live in ireland climate here makes children very susceptible to respiratory problems. Otherwise very happy, very heathy looking child. Doing very well in every other sense. Bit fussy with food, giving fish oil supplement is this okay?
Sulphur in pregnancy refers to my current pregnancy not when pregnant with him.
If you need me to go back further let me know. Thanks
I think its great that people like yourself can help us try and make sense of this because you really do get bogged down when your child gets ill.
Kind regards
Frankie
Thank you. His current condition: Has just recovered from penis infection, 3 weeks ago. Had augmentin duo on which spiked high temp and was taken off and put on zinnat which caused terrible diarroea, and a very bad sounding chesty cough but was found to have a clear chest was prescribed ventolin but did not give as I thought it was crazy to prescribe and treated him with bella donna chest cleared when antibiotic finished. Had to finish course as they would not acknowledge that it was causing other symptoms and did not want to compromise him with another antibioic in the future. Last two weeks he was well apart from sleeping which never really goes well since reaction so took him to a new homeopath who prescribed all the above listed so just don't know what to do, stopped the microflora after 3 days as was very unsure about it. The other med is not named and has no potency, so did not give, tried to ring as with others did not return call. Should note he is not yet two this has all happened in 14 months. He developed croup two nights ago gave him hepar sulph. we live in ireland climate here makes children very susceptible to respiratory problems. Otherwise very happy, very heathy looking child. Doing very well in every other sense. Bit fussy with food, giving fish oil supplement is this okay?
Sulphur in pregnancy refers to my current pregnancy not when pregnant with him.
If you need me to go back further let me know. Thanks
I think its great that people like yourself can help us try and make sense of this because you really do get bogged down when your child gets ill.
Kind regards
Frankie
frankieo last decade
Forget about the past,for the time being. we will ask about it, when required.
As far as I understand,he had a penis infection, which was cured now, with the help of antibiotics.
He is well since the last two weeks.
You took him to the homeopath to get help for his sleeping problem.
Now,he is having a croupy cough.
You gave hepar suplph, for cough.
Why did you mention about your taking Sulphur?
Are you breast feeding him still?
Murthy
As far as I understand,he had a penis infection, which was cured now, with the help of antibiotics.
He is well since the last two weeks.
You took him to the homeopath to get help for his sleeping problem.
Now,he is having a croupy cough.
You gave hepar suplph, for cough.
Why did you mention about your taking Sulphur?
Are you breast feeding him still?
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
No I mentioned that in relation to myself in the first post as I am a bit stressed about the whole homeopathy thing now, sorry to confuse you.
Just to note the penis infection did not clear up with the antibiotics, I started bathing him in a tea tree wash was four times a day and it cleared up I think it would have cleared without antibiotics. I am pretty sure that is why he did not respond to the first antibiotic, the infection simply wasn't a bacterial one but a fungal one. However, i do not know enough about this type of infection and so took the antibiotics thinking he must really need them.
I think the sleeping problem although initially caused by his reaction (he went from 15 hours a day down to 4 hours in a few days) and developmental delay occured which is now going well has not recovered his ability to sleep and is a very wakeful child.
Frankie
Just to note the penis infection did not clear up with the antibiotics, I started bathing him in a tea tree wash was four times a day and it cleared up I think it would have cleared without antibiotics. I am pretty sure that is why he did not respond to the first antibiotic, the infection simply wasn't a bacterial one but a fungal one. However, i do not know enough about this type of infection and so took the antibiotics thinking he must really need them.
I think the sleeping problem although initially caused by his reaction (he went from 15 hours a day down to 4 hours in a few days) and developmental delay occured which is now going well has not recovered his ability to sleep and is a very wakeful child.
Frankie
frankieo last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Now, give more details about these two problems.
Since how many days he is having this cough?
Is it throughout the day, or sometimes only?
Is there any specific period when his cough is worse?
does he vomit after the cough?
How does it sound like?
Is it short or continuous?
Does he show any feelings of suffering during the cough?
Tell in as much detail as you can about the cough.
Similarly, tell us about his sleep.
How long does he sleep?
What makes him to wake up?
Does he cry after waking up?
Tell us all about the sleep problems.
Murthy
Since how many days he is having this cough?
Is it throughout the day, or sometimes only?
Is there any specific period when his cough is worse?
does he vomit after the cough?
How does it sound like?
Is it short or continuous?
Does he show any feelings of suffering during the cough?
Tell in as much detail as you can about the cough.
Similarly, tell us about his sleep.
How long does he sleep?
What makes him to wake up?
Does he cry after waking up?
Tell us all about the sleep problems.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
cough started 36 hours ago, around 3a.m. sat am, started with tight wheezy sound and then tight bark cough. Gave hepar at around that time and settled until morning. Some barking coughs on sat am around 8 am gave hepar, again at 9 and and again at 10. He was quite well throughout the day did not give hepar again until 7. Went to bed was not really coughing but awoke at 2 coughing and again at 3 and 6, cough changed a bit sounded a bit like there is mucus there and now has runny nose. Gave hepar at 8 am and have been on this board since then so didn't give anything else. Also rubbed balsam on his chest at 8 am. He is coughing now and again they are short coughs not really barking more like a half dry/half chesty cough.
Sleep - Goes up at 8 pm mostly settles well with a bottle but wakes at around 12 -1 looking for a drink, gets drink and then sleeps until 3-4 and wakes again for another drink, returns to sleep and then at 6 wakes again wants a drink and comes into our bed and then sleeps until 7-8 ish. Is a light sleeper but was a very heavy sleeper. He always wakes crying and the crying would not cease as we have tried not going in with the drink and he cries into a frenzy, get mucus and very distressed, when he gets drink he just sleeps. He does not settle during the day unless he falls down or sleeps in the car or on the couch, goes beserk if put to bed upstairs can't be consoled and does not want bottle. Again tried crying down during the day, he gets far too distressed and never gives in. In every other sense a secure and well adjusted little boy. Is mostly in good form during the day despite the sleep distrubances.
Thanks again
regards
Frankie
Sleep - Goes up at 8 pm mostly settles well with a bottle but wakes at around 12 -1 looking for a drink, gets drink and then sleeps until 3-4 and wakes again for another drink, returns to sleep and then at 6 wakes again wants a drink and comes into our bed and then sleeps until 7-8 ish. Is a light sleeper but was a very heavy sleeper. He always wakes crying and the crying would not cease as we have tried not going in with the drink and he cries into a frenzy, get mucus and very distressed, when he gets drink he just sleeps. He does not settle during the day unless he falls down or sleeps in the car or on the couch, goes beserk if put to bed upstairs can't be consoled and does not want bottle. Again tried crying down during the day, he gets far too distressed and never gives in. In every other sense a secure and well adjusted little boy. Is mostly in good form during the day despite the sleep distrubances.
Thanks again
regards
Frankie
frankieo last decade
Stop Hepar Sulph.
Give three doses of Ars.alb 200, at 4 hourly intervals.
No more than three doses.
Post response tomorrow.
Murthy
Give three doses of Ars.alb 200, at 4 hourly intervals.
No more than three doses.
Post response tomorrow.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Do you mean opening a seperate thread for the patient?
I did it purposely, as I didn't want this discussion to be continued on the 'article on pseudo homeopathy'thread, where she posted originally.
I told her about it,and asked her to come here.
I really don't know that Kuldeep used to do it in a similar way.
Any way, I think one should have no objection for it.
Murthy
I did it purposely, as I didn't want this discussion to be continued on the 'article on pseudo homeopathy'thread, where she posted originally.
I told her about it,and asked her to come here.
I really don't know that Kuldeep used to do it in a similar way.
Any way, I think one should have no objection for it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
This is the sordid story. Even a person who came with after-effect of deafness went to professionally qualified homeopath who gave an inappropriate remedy after more than one hour of case-taking.
♡ maheeru last decade
hi maheeru
If you feel my prescription is wrong, you are welcome to correct it.
She has not come back yet, and hence we still have time.
The very purpose of the forums like this is to stop a wrong prescription from being given.
If you feel my prescription is wrong, please tell your views. I am always open for correction.
The patient's interest is paramount.
Murthy
If you feel my prescription is wrong, you are welcome to correct it.
She has not come back yet, and hence we still have time.
The very purpose of the forums like this is to stop a wrong prescription from being given.
If you feel my prescription is wrong, please tell your views. I am always open for correction.
The patient's interest is paramount.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Murthy
thank you for comming back to me. unfortunately I will not be able to get hold of a 200c rememdy in ireland without access to a qualified homeopath, there is nothing available over 30c here.
Sorry maheeru, I don't understand any of your posts some kind of board politics I suppose
Frankie
thank you for comming back to me. unfortunately I will not be able to get hold of a 200c rememdy in ireland without access to a qualified homeopath, there is nothing available over 30c here.
Sorry maheeru, I don't understand any of your posts some kind of board politics I suppose
Frankie
frankieo last decade
It's O.K. Frankie
I will put it this way.
On internet forums, or for that matter, even while prescribing after seeing the patient, the presriber, some times, may not be able to guess the correct remedy, the first time.
However, as long as you limit the medicine to three doses, It will do all the good it can,it is capable of doing.
In case, it is not at all related to the complaint, it doesn't do anything.
The patient may stay as it is, or he may become worse, with the progression of disease.
In non serious problems, we have to take this risk.However, a competent homeopath, can understand the effects of his medicine in the follow up visit, and he will review the case, and give another medicine.
So, if you are willing to take the risk, give him three doses of Ars.alb 30c,as suggested, if it is impossible for you to get 200c, in a hurry.
Post response after 24 hours after giving the last dose.
There are no board politics.Maheeru is my good friend, and he might not have visited the forum again.
Or he might have meant something else.
Any way,we will sort it out, and meanwhile, you think over and take your decision.
In case, you gave the Ars.30c, as suggested, come back and report after 24 hours, after giving the last dose.
Plese be told that, I am not a qualified homeopath. There are qualified doctors available on the forum, and if you want to wait for their advice, you are welcome.
I have put all my cards on the table, and it is upto you to take a decision.
Murthy
I will put it this way.
On internet forums, or for that matter, even while prescribing after seeing the patient, the presriber, some times, may not be able to guess the correct remedy, the first time.
However, as long as you limit the medicine to three doses, It will do all the good it can,it is capable of doing.
In case, it is not at all related to the complaint, it doesn't do anything.
The patient may stay as it is, or he may become worse, with the progression of disease.
In non serious problems, we have to take this risk.However, a competent homeopath, can understand the effects of his medicine in the follow up visit, and he will review the case, and give another medicine.
So, if you are willing to take the risk, give him three doses of Ars.alb 30c,as suggested, if it is impossible for you to get 200c, in a hurry.
Post response after 24 hours after giving the last dose.
There are no board politics.Maheeru is my good friend, and he might not have visited the forum again.
Or he might have meant something else.
Any way,we will sort it out, and meanwhile, you think over and take your decision.
In case, you gave the Ars.30c, as suggested, come back and report after 24 hours, after giving the last dose.
Plese be told that, I am not a qualified homeopath. There are qualified doctors available on the forum, and if you want to wait for their advice, you are welcome.
I have put all my cards on the table, and it is upto you to take a decision.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Thanks Murthy
Sorry don't want to offend your friend just don't get the posts.
Have phoned local shop and they don't have so have to wait and talk to Nelsons tomorrow, will come back to you in two days
Thanks for all your input.
Regards
Frankie
Sorry don't want to offend your friend just don't get the posts.
Have phoned local shop and they don't have so have to wait and talk to Nelsons tomorrow, will come back to you in two days
Thanks for all your input.
Regards
Frankie
frankieo last decade
Oops, sorry murthy, my comments were not regarding your prescription.
Hello Frankieo
I was just reminding about a patient who got Viola odorata for anxiety. Though her homeopath was professional and classical in the sense he gave single remedy at a time, but still gave an inappropriate remedy.
I reminded this case just to emphathise with you that like yourself some people get unwanted troubles after taking medicines. This is so sordid that people who already suffer get some unwanted effects making them suffer more after spending money.
Hello Frankieo
I was just reminding about a patient who got Viola odorata for anxiety. Though her homeopath was professional and classical in the sense he gave single remedy at a time, but still gave an inappropriate remedy.
I reminded this case just to emphathise with you that like yourself some people get unwanted troubles after taking medicines. This is so sordid that people who already suffer get some unwanted effects making them suffer more after spending money.
♡ maheeru last decade
Regarding my earlier comments it was made in good sense(no politics Frankieo) to point out rare similarities between Murthy and Kuldeep who were differing in many other matters.
I dont want to addup anything new as Murthy had explained it well enough.
I dont want to addup anything new as Murthy had explained it well enough.
♡ maheeru last decade
Hi Murthy
I did not get back to you as I took my son to the doctor on Monday and he has been diagnosed with asthma which is very unfortunate. We have no choice but use inhalers as he has a real risk of attack and we couldn't take the chance he is also likely to end up on antibiotics if we don't give them. To be honest in order to use homeopathy on our son we feel we must deal with someone face to face who can history take and follow up. We have yet to meet homeopaths who sing from similar hymn sheets let alone similar ones and so think we should leave it all alone. I am delighted I read that article because it has clarified things for us, in that we know at least with the medical route, its proven, scientific and at the end of the day there are levels of accountablility that simply don't exist when you use homeopaths. I think this board is great in helping people to develop their knowledge of homeopathy, and as your article highlighted one can create more problems than are solved by operating in the dark. The strange thing is that once I realised he had asthma I knew I had to get rid of all types of possible allergens and disposed of his bottle on Monday, he slept straight through by last night. I have learned a lot from this experience, I need to be much more careful about what I give my son. I am aware of problems and side effects of inhalers but they do an important and significant job as children can die of asthma and if homeopaths are going to offer alternative therapies they need to be sure what they are offering can not only take that child out of an emergency situation but be totally sure that what they are giving will not exacerbate the problem or create others. I am grateful for the time you took to help us on Sunday and I wish I could find a dedicated classical homeopath near me whom I could trust and who would provide me with clear answers and solutions but to date that has not been my experience I have shelled out over 450 to homeopaths in the last 14 months that is the equivalent to the annual costs of two children and two adults attending a GP in this country. Unfortunately as you can see from this post I really got nothing for my money.
Good luck with your work and thanks again for your help
Regards
Frankie
I did not get back to you as I took my son to the doctor on Monday and he has been diagnosed with asthma which is very unfortunate. We have no choice but use inhalers as he has a real risk of attack and we couldn't take the chance he is also likely to end up on antibiotics if we don't give them. To be honest in order to use homeopathy on our son we feel we must deal with someone face to face who can history take and follow up. We have yet to meet homeopaths who sing from similar hymn sheets let alone similar ones and so think we should leave it all alone. I am delighted I read that article because it has clarified things for us, in that we know at least with the medical route, its proven, scientific and at the end of the day there are levels of accountablility that simply don't exist when you use homeopaths. I think this board is great in helping people to develop their knowledge of homeopathy, and as your article highlighted one can create more problems than are solved by operating in the dark. The strange thing is that once I realised he had asthma I knew I had to get rid of all types of possible allergens and disposed of his bottle on Monday, he slept straight through by last night. I have learned a lot from this experience, I need to be much more careful about what I give my son. I am aware of problems and side effects of inhalers but they do an important and significant job as children can die of asthma and if homeopaths are going to offer alternative therapies they need to be sure what they are offering can not only take that child out of an emergency situation but be totally sure that what they are giving will not exacerbate the problem or create others. I am grateful for the time you took to help us on Sunday and I wish I could find a dedicated classical homeopath near me whom I could trust and who would provide me with clear answers and solutions but to date that has not been my experience I have shelled out over 450 to homeopaths in the last 14 months that is the equivalent to the annual costs of two children and two adults attending a GP in this country. Unfortunately as you can see from this post I really got nothing for my money.
Good luck with your work and thanks again for your help
Regards
Frankie
frankieo last decade
Hi Frankie
I am glad that your son is improving.
When you don't have good homeopaths around, you don't have any other alternative, except to go in the traditional way.
Millions use allopathy, and all are not sick because of that.
In emergencies,allopathy is still the saviour, particularly, when you don't have good homeopaths around.
Antibiotics once in a way,doesn't to much harm.However try to avoid allopathic medication for minor problems.
Allopathy is much better than this mixopathy.If you want to go to a new homeopath in future, make sure that he is a competent classical homeopath, who gives you one medicine at a time, and waits for response.
All the best.
Murthy
I am glad that your son is improving.
When you don't have good homeopaths around, you don't have any other alternative, except to go in the traditional way.
Millions use allopathy, and all are not sick because of that.
In emergencies,allopathy is still the saviour, particularly, when you don't have good homeopaths around.
Antibiotics once in a way,doesn't to much harm.However try to avoid allopathic medication for minor problems.
Allopathy is much better than this mixopathy.If you want to go to a new homeopath in future, make sure that he is a competent classical homeopath, who gives you one medicine at a time, and waits for response.
All the best.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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