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Little white 'thingies' on the tip of the tounge

My 12 y/old daughter is getting white 'thingies' on her tounge.
Her Dr. says she gets those also and there isn't a cure.
However i suspect after reading online it can be food related.
I hope it will be gone with her period when she gets it.
Is there anything you can recommend.
She has no allergies or anything else to report. We are blessed but his little thing is annoying very much.

Thanks
 
  Clarewish on 2007-03-19
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Dear Clarewish:
Please describe this 'thingies' as wide as you can. Give us more information about her digestion, character, personality, and you can use the same questionary I've posted to you in the your other thread.
Best regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

Patient ID:
Sex: F
Age: 12
Nature of work: Habits: Student, sport, dancing



1. Describe your main suffering?
Seems like taste buds are swollen and white so small part of the tounge looks white - like a quarter of the penny area or smaller.
Sometimes on the tip of the tounge, sometimes on side where 'sour' area.
Comes up, hurting, goes away.
Last time started about a month ago, goes off not completely and comes back on.




2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
None thanks Heavens



3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
She is sticking tounge out, talks funny, swooshes with salt or peroxide or baking soda or oil of oregano (my idea)...seems like when she is busy it is not as bad, when she is not busy it bothering her more (as all kids are).


4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst? Describe the sensation in your own words.
It painfull, if she does not tauch it she doesn't feel it, when touching while eating it hurts.


5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
Can not think anything. Started few years ago.



6. Which time of the day you are worst?
Morning when teeth are brushed

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same? Example- time, temperature, pressure, rubbing, washing, eating, tight clothing etc.
Brushing teeth


8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
Se has no period yet but it is almost there, boobs are growing, growth spur twice a year, she is 5'4' now





9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
Same


10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.


Irritating, Moody, teenager

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?

She has some very minor headache sometimes
- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
Yes
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
Not so much, noise is maybe the one

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
Weeping, talking to one self etc?
Nail scratching

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
She is loved and happy pre-teen, busy, social and popular.

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
She is scared of thigs, lots of them like death in a family (after uncle died at 46) and sad movies generally upset her

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
Pizza, fries always but she eats salads every day

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
A LOT! She is a child so it is hard to tell

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
Normal

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
Regular, every day

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
She sleeps well, snores and all over the place

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
12 y/old

20. Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings? How are you different from others?
Child

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
N/A

22. What major diseases are running in your family?
Paternal grandmom died of lung cancer at 64

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.
Good teth, skin, hair, figure.
She has no visible flaws and i hope it will continue.

24. If your menstrual cycles are not normal, please describe the irregularities, like pains, moods, flow type, clots etc.
Not yet

25. Have you had another illnesses in you life? What and when (from past to present)
Nothing major (cold/flu)thanks Heavens!!!

Best regards
clarewish
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
I have repertorized your daughter's symptoms and I propose this treatment:
1.- BELLADONA 30c, three pellets under tongue, 30 minutes after breakfast or cleaning teeths.
Take for three days and report.
Best wishes
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Thanks so much.
 
Clarewish last decade
I just found belladonna at store near me but when I asked they said it is for a high fever.
I am worry because my daughter is having a cold now and taking a medicine like Vick's and Tera-Flu.
Should i wait or it can be combined? Thanks
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Belladona is employed to treat fever with sweat, throat inflammations, and a lot of diseases and ailments.
If your daughter has a cold, you can give her one dosis of Belladona, and it will reduce the fever and the another symptoms of the cold.
In my opinion, it's better waiting for her recuperation. When she is well, then begin with this treatment for her tongue.
Best wishes
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Hello,
want to report.
I asked at Vitamine Shoppe and was told it is ok to take belladonna with her cold medicine as long as she waits for about 3 hours after her cold medicine taken.
So she took belladonna 3 times already and tounge does not hurt anymore but she developed some brown bump in place where white stuff was, maybe it is because she drinks herbal teas and it colored white into brownish?
But first thing is that tounge does not hurt so far.

She will continue.
But what is your suggestion for future and what do you think is this food relsted or infection or waht?

Thannks so much for your help.
 
Clarewish last decade
I jinxed it - it hurts again!
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Browun bump may be caused by the tinctures of your herbal tea.
If your dougther have had an amelioration and the white stuff disspeared, if her tongue hurt again it's sure caused by an overdosis.
Stop Belladona and wait.
Later we speak about future, but please, don't worry.
Very best wishes
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Hi!
She stopped belladonna but tounge still hurts so bad.
We have a dentist appt this week but I would like to try anything else you can recommend.
Thanks
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Can you send a photo of her tongue?
what's her tongue like now? brown spot or red spot? in the tip or in the root? Has she overcome the cold? Has she got any new symptom? Have dissapeared any old symptoms?
Best regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
I can send picture tonight.
It is a still same white spot (seems like it moved a bit to the center of the tounge)but she bit few 'thingies' off.
We used Orejel yesterday to help her fall asleep
Same symptoms, all same old...
Cold is gone.
Should we try as you said morning belladonna for 3 days?
 
Clarewish last decade
dear Clarewish:
If the tongue is red and clean, except the white spot, then try again with BELLADONA.
If the tongue is dirty, whitecoated and the spot is sore, then send me the photo and I'll value.
Best regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Yes it is read and clean except that same spot.
I will send a pic and wait for your decision. Thanks
 
Clarewish last decade
post the photogrpahs of the tongue for better prescription by dr. andres.

dr.deoshlok sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
I think this is what I said I will do. No?
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Dr. Deoshlok:
Thank you for your kind help.
Best regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Here is the pic as I promised. Thanks I will post one more.
 
Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Sorry me, but I can't see your pic. Perhaps it has more than 64K. Try to reduce its size, if not, please, can you post to my personal address? You can get it in my forum profile.
Best regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
Sorry, my home PC did not worked properly, trying again.

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Clarewish last decade
And another one. I told her to take belladonna this morning as you suggested after the breakfast. Thanks for taking care of this matter for me.

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Clarewish last decade
Dear Clarewish:
Thank you for your photos (I'm sure you will not win the Photopress prize ;))
Seeing the photos, please follow the next treatment:
1.- Stop Belladona
2.- Leave two days in blank of medicines
3.- Third day and sucessives give her TARAXACUM OFF. 6c, three pellets, twice every day till improvement.
Report in one week. If there is no amelioration or you have any question, please feel free to ask.
Don't worry.
Warm regards
Andrés
 
andres last decade
I am sure will not win that prize! I was looking for the right light and you can see what i've found but i am glad you could see enough to prescribe another remedy. I hope i have it in local store.
Thanks so much!
 
Clarewish last decade
Leukoplakia
Dear dr. Andres,
This case is known as Leukoplakia it is a part of cancer disease but some times it is harmless to the body. Some times it is danger also.
Your drug choice is very good. I hope that you are competent practioner having a good knowledge. The choice of drug is TARAXACUM OFF. 6c is the right drugs for this diseae . I request to Mr. Clarewish .please continue the same till getting relief. I have cured many cases by this medicine . it will take 1 year to 2 year for cure of this problem in some cases I got result in 3 month.. You have to leave all the bad habits.
Leukoplakia is a condition in which thickened, white patches form on your gums, on the inside of your cheeks and sometimes on your tongue. These patches can't easily be scraped off.
The cause of leukoplakia is unknown, but it's considered to result from chronic irritation. Tobacco, either smoked or chewed, is the main culprit, but irritation can also come from other sources, such as long-term alcohol use.
Leukoplakia is the most common of all chronic mouth lesions. Although anyone can develop leukoplakia, it's most common in older men. People with compromised immune systems sometimes develop an unusual form of the disorder called hairy leukoplakia.
In general, leukoplakia isn't painful, but the patches may be sensitive when you touch them or eat spicy foods. Although the disorder usually isn't dangerous, it can be serious. A small percentage of leukoplakic patches show early signs of cancer, and many cancers of the mouth occur next to areas of leukoplakia. For that reason, it's best to see your dentist if you have unusual changes in your mouth lasting longer than a week.
Sign & Symptom
Leukoplakia can have various appearances, but typically first appears as flat, gray or gray-white sores (plaques) ¡X usually on your gums or on the insides of your cheeks and sometimes on your tongue. Over weeks or months, leukoplakia can develop into patches with the following characteristics

„X White color
„X Thick, rough or wrinkled texture
„X Hardened surface
Sometimes you may also have raised red lesions (erythroplakia), which are more likely to show precancerous changes.
A type of leukoplakia called hairy leukoplakia primarily affects people whose immune systems have been weakened by medications or disease, especially HIV or AIDS. Hairy leukoplakia causes fuzzy, white patches that resemble folds or ridges on the sides of your tongue. It's often mistaken for oral thrush ¡X an infection marked by creamy white patches on the area that extends from the back of your throat to the top of your esophagus (pharynx) and the insides of the cheeks. Oral thrush is also common in people with HIV/AIDS.
Cause
The cause of leukoplakia is unknown. Many possible causes have been linked to leukoplakia, including tobacco, long-term alcohol use and other chronic irritants. Though mechanical irritants, such as rough fillings or dentures, were once felt to be a cause of leukoplakia, they're no longer believed to lead to this condition.
Tobacco use appears to be responsible for most cases of leukoplakia. The vast majority of people who develop leukoplakia are smokers, and most leukoplakic patches either improve or disappear within a year after stopping smoking. Chewing tobacco and snuff also play a key role ¡X as many as three out of four regular users of 'smokeless tobacco' products eventually develop leukoplakia where they hold the tobacco against their cheeks.
Researchers also have identified both Candida albicans, the fungus that causes oral thrush, and human papillomavirus, the virus that causes genital warts, in leukoplakic patches. But it's not known whether these microorganisms occur as a secondary infection or actually cause leukoplakia.

Dr.deoshlok sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
My daughter is 12 yeqars old, no alcohol nor tobacco or dentures.
She sees her dentist regularly and I am thinking it is a pre-menstrual outbreak but I am not a doctor.
Thanks for your input, we are seeing a dentist next week.
I hope you are wrong.
 
Clarewish last decade

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