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Hi FM
This is what you said.
'we are supposed to rub 33 minutes clockwise.then 33 minutes anti clock then 33 minutes clock wise again ! I'm sure i read this somewhere....'
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You are sure you read it somewhere, but can't give any reference. That is because it is not true and just hearsay.
Now compare it with the way I give information. I would have appreciated your PG degree if you happen to be sound in fundamentals.
It is unfortunate that you know nothing about the fundamentals of homeopathy, despite your PG.
Have you ever read Organon from cover to cover? Can you quote from it, explain the postulates and debate over them?
You can't because you mugged up some postulates of Organon for examination sake and forgot about it once you got your degrees.
That is not the case with us. We read everyday to improve our knowledge.
Enough for now.
Murthy
This is what you said.
'we are supposed to rub 33 minutes clockwise.then 33 minutes anti clock then 33 minutes clock wise again ! I'm sure i read this somewhere....'
******
You are sure you read it somewhere, but can't give any reference. That is because it is not true and just hearsay.
Now compare it with the way I give information. I would have appreciated your PG degree if you happen to be sound in fundamentals.
It is unfortunate that you know nothing about the fundamentals of homeopathy, despite your PG.
Have you ever read Organon from cover to cover? Can you quote from it, explain the postulates and debate over them?
You can't because you mugged up some postulates of Organon for examination sake and forgot about it once you got your degrees.
That is not the case with us. We read everyday to improve our knowledge.
Enough for now.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I am glad you dug up your notes. :-)
Did you observe it.. just an elaboration of what is told in Organon.
However there are certain points that need clarification.
Quote
* Sugar of milk cannot triturate substances that
are harder than it, like metals.
unquote
Then let us know how these metals are triturated.
Take your own time. No hurry.
Murthy
Did you observe it.. just an elaboration of what is told in Organon.
However there are certain points that need clarification.
Quote
* Sugar of milk cannot triturate substances that
are harder than it, like metals.
unquote
Then let us know how these metals are triturated.
Take your own time. No hurry.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I have already said no hurry.
Take your own time but do come back and let us know how hard metals are triturated.
Good night.
Murthy
Take your own time but do come back and let us know how hard metals are triturated.
Good night.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
We got diverted again..
Please help with more ideas on a very important issue we all homeopaths face every day.
THE POTENCY SELECTION
I have some presumtions on what to base my selected remedy on. These are
1. Disease nature Organic or functional
2. Body and Mind Sensitivity
3. Age
4. Objective to remedy to palliate or cure
5. Level of similarity of remedy
6. Criteria of selection, mental or physical, general or particular
Can you guys help with your knowledge and experience.
I invite Gavini,Neil,Pankaj,FormerMember, and all those who can constructively contribute to the topic.
Please help with more ideas on a very important issue we all homeopaths face every day.
THE POTENCY SELECTION
I have some presumtions on what to base my selected remedy on. These are
1. Disease nature Organic or functional
2. Body and Mind Sensitivity
3. Age
4. Objective to remedy to palliate or cure
5. Level of similarity of remedy
6. Criteria of selection, mental or physical, general or particular
Can you guys help with your knowledge and experience.
I invite Gavini,Neil,Pankaj,FormerMember, and all those who can constructively contribute to the topic.
wakeupsid last decade
The vitality of the patient comes first while deciding on potency and all other parameters recede into the background.
Vitality:
Vitality refers to Physical or intellectual vigor; energy; the capacity to live, grow, or develop. In homeopathy, it is considered that it you are vitally strong (strong vital force) then you are less susceptible to illness. In fact, if your vitality is low, you become more susceptible towards illness.
Your Energy Levels: Vitality is synonymous with energy. The more energetic you feel, the greater is your vitality. If you feel mentally alert and physically active, you have a strong vital force. On the other hand, if you do not feel like doing any work, always feel tired or feel tired after little work, do not feel fresh in the morning after sleep, feel mentally dull - then your vitality is low.
Medical History: If you are vitally strong, you are less susceptible to disease forces, you are more immune to the actions of viruses, bacteria, parasites and seasonal changes. To summarize, you fall ill less often. On the other hand, if you tend to catch every bug around, if you catch a cold with every change of weather, if you get a gastric disturbance every time you eat out - then your vitality is low and you need to work upon it.
(Thanks to Dr.B.)
Having known what is vitality it is always prudent not to go beyond 200c for people with low vitality whatever may be the other parameters.(acute/chronic..organic/functional etc)
Let us see if others have any other views on this point.
Murthy
Vitality:
Vitality refers to Physical or intellectual vigor; energy; the capacity to live, grow, or develop. In homeopathy, it is considered that it you are vitally strong (strong vital force) then you are less susceptible to illness. In fact, if your vitality is low, you become more susceptible towards illness.
Your Energy Levels: Vitality is synonymous with energy. The more energetic you feel, the greater is your vitality. If you feel mentally alert and physically active, you have a strong vital force. On the other hand, if you do not feel like doing any work, always feel tired or feel tired after little work, do not feel fresh in the morning after sleep, feel mentally dull - then your vitality is low.
Medical History: If you are vitally strong, you are less susceptible to disease forces, you are more immune to the actions of viruses, bacteria, parasites and seasonal changes. To summarize, you fall ill less often. On the other hand, if you tend to catch every bug around, if you catch a cold with every change of weather, if you get a gastric disturbance every time you eat out - then your vitality is low and you need to work upon it.
(Thanks to Dr.B.)
Having known what is vitality it is always prudent not to go beyond 200c for people with low vitality whatever may be the other parameters.(acute/chronic..organic/functional etc)
Let us see if others have any other views on this point.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
wakeupsid last decade
Yes. Provided you are sure of your remedy.
In case you make a mistake in selecting the remedy and give too high a potency to a patient with low vitality that may do more harm than good.
So, in cases of low vitality it is always better to try out not more than a 200c in the beginning and up the potency gradually as the need arises.
A 200c will not fail to work even in emergencies if it is the right choice.
Better to be safe rather than regret later.
Homeopathy when understood properly has the safety issues built in into it's philosophy.
Murthy
P.S. I am in the office now, and have to go back to official work. :-)
See you all in the evening.
Murthy
In case you make a mistake in selecting the remedy and give too high a potency to a patient with low vitality that may do more harm than good.
So, in cases of low vitality it is always better to try out not more than a 200c in the beginning and up the potency gradually as the need arises.
A 200c will not fail to work even in emergencies if it is the right choice.
Better to be safe rather than regret later.
Homeopathy when understood properly has the safety issues built in into it's philosophy.
Murthy
P.S. I am in the office now, and have to go back to official work. :-)
See you all in the evening.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Got your point. It's just that you should be sure of the right selection and that cant happen till you adminster the damn thing. !! however justifiable your prescription may be to yourself.
wakeupsid last decade
Yes. That is what I meant.
In fact most of the homeopathic shops in India don't stock medicines beyond 1M. Even 1Ms are not available for all the medicines.
The reason being traditionally the doctors in India choose 200c as the default potency which is good enough for the many day to day problems the common man faces. If you take statistics, perhaps 80% of the prescriptions of all Indian doctors put together will lie mostly in the 30c-200c bracket.
So except for some complicated cases I don't break my head as to which potency to give. I suggest water doses and give either 30c or 200c to start with for most of the cases.
Murthy
In fact most of the homeopathic shops in India don't stock medicines beyond 1M. Even 1Ms are not available for all the medicines.
The reason being traditionally the doctors in India choose 200c as the default potency which is good enough for the many day to day problems the common man faces. If you take statistics, perhaps 80% of the prescriptions of all Indian doctors put together will lie mostly in the 30c-200c bracket.
So except for some complicated cases I don't break my head as to which potency to give. I suggest water doses and give either 30c or 200c to start with for most of the cases.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
SINGLE DOSE
Another interesting thing that I noticed with single remedy at a time was the single dose.
Various doctors various ways
1. 3 doses a day for 2 days.
2. 3 doses a day only
3. 2 doses within a gap of half an hour
4. single dose only one time
What is the best way to administer a single does?
Here Sulphur 30 for example of prescribed without considering the time. So it could be 10am (aggravation) or 10pm (night). I always believed in particular times for administration of medicines like Natrum Mur ideally should be given between 6 7 pm and Nux Vom should be given in evening but at least 2-3 hours before sleep and the list goes on with Sulphur early in the morning preferably before the sun gets hot, before 6.30am.
What are your views on the same?
Another interesting thing that I noticed with single remedy at a time was the single dose.
Various doctors various ways
1. 3 doses a day for 2 days.
2. 3 doses a day only
3. 2 doses within a gap of half an hour
4. single dose only one time
What is the best way to administer a single does?
Here Sulphur 30 for example of prescribed without considering the time. So it could be 10am (aggravation) or 10pm (night). I always believed in particular times for administration of medicines like Natrum Mur ideally should be given between 6 7 pm and Nux Vom should be given in evening but at least 2-3 hours before sleep and the list goes on with Sulphur early in the morning preferably before the sun gets hot, before 6.30am.
What are your views on the same?
wakeupsid last decade
There is lot of confusion about the term single dose.
A single dose really means all the doses given put together sufficient enough to establish a reaction.
Hahn. talks about minimum dose..not single dose. He has veered to multiple water doses spread over a number of days even in the 5 th edition. He came out with LM potencies in the 6 th edition, and with a more liberalised dosage pattern.
The single dose concept of 4 th edition has become a tool to ridicule classical homeopathy. People are not aware of the advances Hahn. suggested in the fifth and sixth editions.
Coming to the various variations given by you the basic philosophy behind them is simple.
To give sufficient quanity capable of establishing a reaction.
The prescribers who have not gone beyond 4th edition methods feel that normally no reaction gets established in a day or two, particularly in chronic cases. So, they empirically choose one of the various ways mentioned based on their fancy.
I feel that the method of giving a minimum dose( which may contain 'N' number of doses spred over a single/few days and wait for a week or so to see if any reaction is established doesn't give results the patient expects.
That is an outdated method and the fifth and sixth edition methods provide speedy relief to the patients..even in chronic cases..of course always the rider..provided your remedy choice is correct.
Murthy
A single dose really means all the doses given put together sufficient enough to establish a reaction.
Hahn. talks about minimum dose..not single dose. He has veered to multiple water doses spread over a number of days even in the 5 th edition. He came out with LM potencies in the 6 th edition, and with a more liberalised dosage pattern.
The single dose concept of 4 th edition has become a tool to ridicule classical homeopathy. People are not aware of the advances Hahn. suggested in the fifth and sixth editions.
Coming to the various variations given by you the basic philosophy behind them is simple.
To give sufficient quanity capable of establishing a reaction.
The prescribers who have not gone beyond 4th edition methods feel that normally no reaction gets established in a day or two, particularly in chronic cases. So, they empirically choose one of the various ways mentioned based on their fancy.
I feel that the method of giving a minimum dose( which may contain 'N' number of doses spred over a single/few days and wait for a week or so to see if any reaction is established doesn't give results the patient expects.
That is an outdated method and the fifth and sixth edition methods provide speedy relief to the patients..even in chronic cases..of course always the rider..provided your remedy choice is correct.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Regarding the time to give medicines , it is best to avoid giving the medicines that have specific aggravation timings during those times.
Lycopodium is not to be given between 4 to 8 P.M.
Nat.mur is to be avoided between 9 A.M. and Noon.
So on and so forth. That stands to logic.
Murthy
Lycopodium is not to be given between 4 to 8 P.M.
Nat.mur is to be avoided between 9 A.M. and Noon.
So on and so forth. That stands to logic.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
wakeupsid last decade
Other than aggravation time avoidance, whats your take on best time for various medicine? Has there been a documentation or study or book on it? Boreicke mentions some times esp for sulphur/nat mur/ nux i think.
wakeupsid last decade
Best times are again empirical. We know why to avoid certain times for certain medicines.
But regarding best times..may be it is again a clinical information..culled by the masters from the numerous cases they handled.
Nothing wrong in respecting them.
Murthy
But regarding best times..may be it is again a clinical information..culled by the masters from the numerous cases they handled.
Nothing wrong in respecting them.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi FM
Before I answer you go back a little on this thread to get reminded about a question you are yet to answer.
I will remind you once again.
You said that hard metals can't be triturated with milk of sugar. Then what else to use?
I will give a clue.
Ferrum metallicum is a hard metal. Look in your pharmacopia and let us know what it says.
Murthy
Before I answer you go back a little on this thread to get reminded about a question you are yet to answer.
I will remind you once again.
You said that hard metals can't be triturated with milk of sugar. Then what else to use?
I will give a clue.
Ferrum metallicum is a hard metal. Look in your pharmacopia and let us know what it says.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
FM
Which cola? Pepsi or Coke as they taste differently. Pepsi is sweeter..
I think these remedies have not been explored extensively and so lack of data. Also any thing and every thing can be converted into medicine in homeopathy. All you need to do is prove it.
Kya Kya prove karoge?
Which cola? Pepsi or Coke as they taste differently. Pepsi is sweeter..
I think these remedies have not been explored extensively and so lack of data. Also any thing and every thing can be converted into medicine in homeopathy. All you need to do is prove it.
Kya Kya prove karoge?
wakeupsid last decade
Hi FM
While you wriggle desperately to come out of the blunder you made, be careful with spellings of homeopathic medicines. Spelling mistake may mean a different remedy.
Alumina and Alumen..an example.
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Cynodon dactylon (L.) Pers. (Poaceae)
Common Name: Grandhi, Durva, Dub, Talla
Parts Used: Bukni, Juice.
Medicine name: Cynodon Dactylon
Uses in Homeopathy: Haemorrhage, dysentery, dropsy, leucorrhoea, Scabies
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Azadirachta indica A. Juss. (Meliaceae)
Common: Name: Neem, Nimba, Margosa tree.
Parts Used: Whole plant and bark.
Medicine name: Azadirachta Indica
Uses in Homeopathy: Eczema, fever and stomachache, scabis, leprosy, helminthiasis, gonorrhoea, glossitis.
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This is the way you use homeopathic medicines. This data is enough for you.
Not for me. I will look for complete proving data before using them.
Any way CCRH has got the full data on these medicines. Try to procure it.
Murthy
While you wriggle desperately to come out of the blunder you made, be careful with spellings of homeopathic medicines. Spelling mistake may mean a different remedy.
Alumina and Alumen..an example.
******
Cynodon dactylon (L.) Pers. (Poaceae)
Common Name: Grandhi, Durva, Dub, Talla
Parts Used: Bukni, Juice.
Medicine name: Cynodon Dactylon
Uses in Homeopathy: Haemorrhage, dysentery, dropsy, leucorrhoea, Scabies
*******
Azadirachta indica A. Juss. (Meliaceae)
Common: Name: Neem, Nimba, Margosa tree.
Parts Used: Whole plant and bark.
Medicine name: Azadirachta Indica
Uses in Homeopathy: Eczema, fever and stomachache, scabis, leprosy, helminthiasis, gonorrhoea, glossitis.
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This is the way you use homeopathic medicines. This data is enough for you.
Not for me. I will look for complete proving data before using them.
Any way CCRH has got the full data on these medicines. Try to procure it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
If you don't how remedies are produced you should have kept quiet. That would have saved you from loosing your face.
You made a statement and what I am asking you is to defend it.
Don't talk out of your hat.
Murthy
You made a statement and what I am asking you is to defend it.
Don't talk out of your hat.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
You claimed you use the pharmacopia as your pillow. What is peventing you to look into it and reproduce about Ferrum Metallicum here?
Perhaps that is a lie. You don't have any pharmacopia and you are trying to impress people by posing as if you have it.
Murthy
Perhaps that is a lie. You don't have any pharmacopia and you are trying to impress people by posing as if you have it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
This is from Boericke
HOMOPATHIC MATERIA MEDICA
by William BOERICKE, M.D.
Presented by Médi-T
AZADIRACHTA INDICA
Margosa Bark
An afternoon fever and rheumatic pains in various parts are caused by this remedy. Pain in sternum and ribs, in back and shoulders and extremities; heat, pricking and aching in hands, especially palms, fingers, also toes.
Head.--Forgetful; giddy on rising; head aches, scalp sensitive; eyes burn, pain in right eyeball.
Fever.--Slight chill, afternoon fever, glowing heat in face, hands, and feet, copious sweat on upper part of body.
Relationship.--Compare: Cedron; Natr mur; Arsenic.
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Better thaan the previous reference.
Murthy
HOMOPATHIC MATERIA MEDICA
by William BOERICKE, M.D.
Presented by Médi-T
AZADIRACHTA INDICA
Margosa Bark
An afternoon fever and rheumatic pains in various parts are caused by this remedy. Pain in sternum and ribs, in back and shoulders and extremities; heat, pricking and aching in hands, especially palms, fingers, also toes.
Head.--Forgetful; giddy on rising; head aches, scalp sensitive; eyes burn, pain in right eyeball.
Fever.--Slight chill, afternoon fever, glowing heat in face, hands, and feet, copious sweat on upper part of body.
Relationship.--Compare: Cedron; Natr mur; Arsenic.
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Better thaan the previous reference.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Parrots keep repeating the few sentenses they are taught. Because their brains are not as developed as that of humam beings.
Similar is the case with you. You have nothing else to say except flaunting your degrees.
We too are enjoying your stupidity. Keep displaying your ignorance.
Murthy
Similar is the case with you. You have nothing else to say except flaunting your degrees.
We too are enjoying your stupidity. Keep displaying your ignorance.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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