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Sure sir .. thnx alot ..
I had taken spongia 2 times till now and i found it really effective. I have less cough then before. Ok i'll use bryonia now. What about Nux Vom?
take care.
I had taken spongia 2 times till now and i found it really effective. I have less cough then before. Ok i'll use bryonia now. What about Nux Vom?
take care.
Sanam16261 last decade
If Spongia has helped your throat, there is no necessity of taking the Bryonia 200.
I presume that you are feeling well today.
I presume that you are feeling well today.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe sir,
No i am not feeling well :(
Here is my progress report. I am taking Bryonia 200 from 2 days. But my temperature is fluctuating from 100 to 101.2 degrees, not only in the evening but in the day time also. I have pain in all body parts. I have a lot of dry cough and irritation in throat. My flu was dried before but after using Bryonia its little bit runny now. Should I continue using Bryonia 200 to cure this infection or add something else with it? I am feeling so much cold and feverish. My throat is very dry and felling so much infection on my chest and throat. My tonsils are very red in color from both. Need your guidance.
Take care.
No i am not feeling well :(
Here is my progress report. I am taking Bryonia 200 from 2 days. But my temperature is fluctuating from 100 to 101.2 degrees, not only in the evening but in the day time also. I have pain in all body parts. I have a lot of dry cough and irritation in throat. My flu was dried before but after using Bryonia its little bit runny now. Should I continue using Bryonia 200 to cure this infection or add something else with it? I am feeling so much cold and feverish. My throat is very dry and felling so much infection on my chest and throat. My tonsils are very red in color from both. Need your guidance.
Take care.
Sanam16261 last decade
You are obviously suffering from a virus flu infection. There is unfortunately no remedy or drug that can help to abort your flu. Rest is the only remedy and as long as your temperature does not go above the present level you should be OK in a couple of days. Drink plenty of warm liquids like tea and of course water.
If your fever goes above 102F you can take Oscillococcinum 200 dose 6 pellets sublingually 3 times daily.
Please note that Bryonia 200 in the Wet dose that I prescribed for your throat was not responsible for your present fever. Your tonsils will be helped by the Bryonia 200 in the gargle which is swallowed immediately after. It will also help to control your cough.
If your fever goes above 102F you can take Oscillococcinum 200 dose 6 pellets sublingually 3 times daily.
Please note that Bryonia 200 in the Wet dose that I prescribed for your throat was not responsible for your present fever. Your tonsils will be helped by the Bryonia 200 in the gargle which is swallowed immediately after. It will also help to control your cough.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe sir,
Hope u you are doing well. I went for my physical check up from a medical specialist. Actually there was some swelling on the right muscle of my neck before 45 days. I though it was just because of my sleeping posture (I was using 3 pillows to sleep in upright position to avoid acid reflux). But after some days a smaller swelling area appears right below the older bulge area. At the same time very small bumps appear in my armpit too, but only armpit bumps are vanished in 2 days. But the swelling area or bump on my Neck was very painful. And they were actually lump nodes. Few days back I was captured by cold and fever, as I told you before. My temperature is not gone yet, it was fluctuating from 100F to +103F. No remedy helped me. Than I decided to go to my physical check up, as suggested by you before some days. The doctor told me that I wasnt just a muscular disorder this is some thing else. He gave me several blood, T.B, typhidot, BSF & BSR, chest X-ray and ultrasound of my stomach to diagnose the problem. Every test was clear except T.B. Today after completion of 72 hours my T.B test is positive. I have T.B of lymph node (on the right side of my neck). (very 1st stage) E.S.R rate is also very high in my blood. Chest x-ray shows that I have a very minor kind of infection on my chest, which is not really important I think.
This situation is very critical because I am not capable to use any king of allopathic medicine as I told you before.
Few days back I have used a tb spoon of panadol children syrup once when my temperature was above 103F. But after 3 hours my condition become worst, my temperature was suddenly dropped from +103 to 99F, I was unable to breath and my heart beat was very disordered. I was hospitalized then and treated by doctors. They gave me simple drip of Dextrose without any injection when my family told me that I am allergic to allopathic medicines.
I am hopeless today Joe sir. Life is slipping away from my hands. Doctors suggest me to take T.B treatment of children by using syrups 5 times a day. But still the problem is I cannot eat any thing due to my GERD problem. And T.B treatment needs a lot of good health and eating healthy things like milk, meat, all fruits and vegetables etc which I cant take unfortunately.
And now days my diet is very less than normal. My weight is 39 now. I have lost 2 kg weight because I am eating just nothing. I have vomiting problem due to chronic cough from last 30 days. Mostly when I eat some thing, it immediately comes out because of cough. I cant eat any thing due to this. I feel hungry but I feel like some thing is blocked inside me. May be this is due to swelling in my throat because of cough and vomiting. My GERD routine was going good but not now. I am feeling loads of acidity again. I am constantly using Nat phos but unable to take arnica from few days as I am using other medicines like Bryonia etc and arnica reacts with them.
Sir plz suggest me something from your experience which is hopeful and helpful at the same time. Is their any thing for lymph node tuberculosis in homeopathy? And if there is not, Plz tell me any remedy which at least makes my temperature, cough and neck bumps vanished. So that I will be able to start children T.B treatment. Plz suggest me some thing better for T.B treatment. Your suggestions are always important for me.
Pray for me sir and plz tell me some thing good and positive. I am so much depressed and need a lot of good things at this point of life.
Hope u you are doing well. I went for my physical check up from a medical specialist. Actually there was some swelling on the right muscle of my neck before 45 days. I though it was just because of my sleeping posture (I was using 3 pillows to sleep in upright position to avoid acid reflux). But after some days a smaller swelling area appears right below the older bulge area. At the same time very small bumps appear in my armpit too, but only armpit bumps are vanished in 2 days. But the swelling area or bump on my Neck was very painful. And they were actually lump nodes. Few days back I was captured by cold and fever, as I told you before. My temperature is not gone yet, it was fluctuating from 100F to +103F. No remedy helped me. Than I decided to go to my physical check up, as suggested by you before some days. The doctor told me that I wasnt just a muscular disorder this is some thing else. He gave me several blood, T.B, typhidot, BSF & BSR, chest X-ray and ultrasound of my stomach to diagnose the problem. Every test was clear except T.B. Today after completion of 72 hours my T.B test is positive. I have T.B of lymph node (on the right side of my neck). (very 1st stage) E.S.R rate is also very high in my blood. Chest x-ray shows that I have a very minor kind of infection on my chest, which is not really important I think.
This situation is very critical because I am not capable to use any king of allopathic medicine as I told you before.
Few days back I have used a tb spoon of panadol children syrup once when my temperature was above 103F. But after 3 hours my condition become worst, my temperature was suddenly dropped from +103 to 99F, I was unable to breath and my heart beat was very disordered. I was hospitalized then and treated by doctors. They gave me simple drip of Dextrose without any injection when my family told me that I am allergic to allopathic medicines.
I am hopeless today Joe sir. Life is slipping away from my hands. Doctors suggest me to take T.B treatment of children by using syrups 5 times a day. But still the problem is I cannot eat any thing due to my GERD problem. And T.B treatment needs a lot of good health and eating healthy things like milk, meat, all fruits and vegetables etc which I cant take unfortunately.
And now days my diet is very less than normal. My weight is 39 now. I have lost 2 kg weight because I am eating just nothing. I have vomiting problem due to chronic cough from last 30 days. Mostly when I eat some thing, it immediately comes out because of cough. I cant eat any thing due to this. I feel hungry but I feel like some thing is blocked inside me. May be this is due to swelling in my throat because of cough and vomiting. My GERD routine was going good but not now. I am feeling loads of acidity again. I am constantly using Nat phos but unable to take arnica from few days as I am using other medicines like Bryonia etc and arnica reacts with them.
Sir plz suggest me something from your experience which is hopeful and helpful at the same time. Is their any thing for lymph node tuberculosis in homeopathy? And if there is not, Plz tell me any remedy which at least makes my temperature, cough and neck bumps vanished. So that I will be able to start children T.B treatment. Plz suggest me some thing better for T.B treatment. Your suggestions are always important for me.
Pray for me sir and plz tell me some thing good and positive. I am so much depressed and need a lot of good things at this point of life.
Sanam16261 last decade
I am very concerned indeed to learn that you have been diagnosed with TB. I do not know how advanced your case is but it is essential that you get yourself warded in a hospital as it will not be possible for you to be treated at home. I regret that Homeopathy cannot help you at this stage.
Your case is of special interest to me as it is unfortunately complicated with your gastric problems which prevent you from eating food essential to provide the nourishment essential for you to recover together with the drugs which are used today for TB which will guarantee a cure.
I am glad that you too realize the importance of eating nourishing food and I hope that you will take my advice and enter a good hospital that will take action to get you back to health. I would like to emphasize that it is essential that you do so immediately as every day's delay in your doing so will only make your condition worse.
I do wish that I can suggest some Homeopathic remedy to help your TB but I regret that there is none, as far as I am aware. Your case is very difficult as you suffer from GERD which is usually difficult to treat successfully although I have done so in many cases. The addition of TB to the picture makes your case unique and I regret that I am unable to help you.
I shall follow your case with added interest and I assure you of my prayers for a quick recovery.
Your case is of special interest to me as it is unfortunately complicated with your gastric problems which prevent you from eating food essential to provide the nourishment essential for you to recover together with the drugs which are used today for TB which will guarantee a cure.
I am glad that you too realize the importance of eating nourishing food and I hope that you will take my advice and enter a good hospital that will take action to get you back to health. I would like to emphasize that it is essential that you do so immediately as every day's delay in your doing so will only make your condition worse.
I do wish that I can suggest some Homeopathic remedy to help your TB but I regret that there is none, as far as I am aware. Your case is very difficult as you suffer from GERD which is usually difficult to treat successfully although I have done so in many cases. The addition of TB to the picture makes your case unique and I regret that I am unable to help you.
I shall follow your case with added interest and I assure you of my prayers for a quick recovery.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe sir, thanks for you concern. I was busy in some more tests and procedures suggested by doctors. All the procedure is almost complete only lymph node biopsy is left, which is equally important as told by the doctors. I have an appointment for tomorrow eve for biopsy. After that my TB treatment will hopefully start by a well known specialist. I have made my mind for it and infact I am ready for it because I have no other choice other than an allopathic 6 months TB treatment as you told me that there is no remedy available for this in homeopathy.
But I need your help in some thing. After biopsy or any kind of homeopathic treatment, doctors normally suggest antibiotics like augmenton etc. to heal the cut or operated area. But as you know I am unable to use these kind of antibiotics as they make my condition worst. So I want you to suggest me any homeopathic medicine, which is use to heal like augmenton or other antibiotics did. So that I can use it after my lymph node biopsy. Hopefully You will suggest me something. I really need your help at this point. Do reply.
Take care & remember me in your prayers.
But I need your help in some thing. After biopsy or any kind of homeopathic treatment, doctors normally suggest antibiotics like augmenton etc. to heal the cut or operated area. But as you know I am unable to use these kind of antibiotics as they make my condition worst. So I want you to suggest me any homeopathic medicine, which is use to heal like augmenton or other antibiotics did. So that I can use it after my lymph node biopsy. Hopefully You will suggest me something. I really need your help at this point. Do reply.
Take care & remember me in your prayers.
Sanam16261 last decade
Can you call me on Skype as I would like to give you some pointers which can help you.
My Skype ID is joedelivera and I shall keep Skype on tonight from 10.00PM - 12.00AM IST which is also SLST.
Just in case you do not come on Skype, I must request you to follow your doctor's therapy as I would not like to risk using Homeopathy in your case which you must know is serious and you cannot afford to treat it like you would treat a headache or a cold.
You stated that you cannot tolerate Augmentin and you should tell your doctor about your sensitivity and they will give you some other AB drug.
You can use Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily after any surgery to help heal the lesion but you must take the drug that they will give you.
My Skype ID is joedelivera and I shall keep Skype on tonight from 10.00PM - 12.00AM IST which is also SLST.
Just in case you do not come on Skype, I must request you to follow your doctor's therapy as I would not like to risk using Homeopathy in your case which you must know is serious and you cannot afford to treat it like you would treat a headache or a cold.
You stated that you cannot tolerate Augmentin and you should tell your doctor about your sensitivity and they will give you some other AB drug.
You can use Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily after any surgery to help heal the lesion but you must take the drug that they will give you.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
There are many remedies and treatment strategies for TB in homoeopathy. We have a long history of treating this disease successfully, although of course some cases might be difficult or incurable (as determined on an individual basis).
It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way.
I am sorry that your case has been mismanaged for this long, that it has become necessary to turn to allopathy. I would suggest you find help from a qualified professional homoeopath in the future. I hope that such mismanagement has not placed you at risk from the allopathic drugs and surgery you are now forced to rely on.
It is one thing to admit that your treatment has been unsuccessful. It is quite another to declare a patient uanble to be helped because you have personally failed to help them. I have made this same complaint several times on this forum and it continues to happen. We all fail at times, it is simply human to do so. I certainly cannot help everyone, but I am not so proud that I believe that such an event is the end of help for someone. I simply refer them on to another homoeopath.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 11 May 2011 02:56:18 BST]
It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way.
I am sorry that your case has been mismanaged for this long, that it has become necessary to turn to allopathy. I would suggest you find help from a qualified professional homoeopath in the future. I hope that such mismanagement has not placed you at risk from the allopathic drugs and surgery you are now forced to rely on.
It is one thing to admit that your treatment has been unsuccessful. It is quite another to declare a patient uanble to be helped because you have personally failed to help them. I have made this same complaint several times on this forum and it continues to happen. We all fail at times, it is simply human to do so. I certainly cannot help everyone, but I am not so proud that I believe that such an event is the end of help for someone. I simply refer them on to another homoeopath.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 11 May 2011 02:56:18 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hi Mr. David,
Dr. Joe really helped me alot constantly in my GERD case. A doctor is 85 years of age and 45 years of experience is not professional .. what a joke it is i must say. And just because of him i have very less acidity now. He is successful in my case as before in many other cases. And as concern to my lymph node T.B. all other homeopathic doctors here told me not to take risk of my life because in homeopahtic their is no treatment for lymph node T.B. So if you know some thing plz do tell me.
I will be really great ful to Joe sir and infact homeopathy is not complete without him.
Thanks
Dr. Joe really helped me alot constantly in my GERD case. A doctor is 85 years of age and 45 years of experience is not professional .. what a joke it is i must say. And just because of him i have very less acidity now. He is successful in my case as before in many other cases. And as concern to my lymph node T.B. all other homeopathic doctors here told me not to take risk of my life because in homeopahtic their is no treatment for lymph node T.B. So if you know some thing plz do tell me.
I will be really great ful to Joe sir and infact homeopathy is not complete without him.
Thanks
Sanam16261 last decade
It is not true. There are cures in homoeopathy. Joe is not trained in homoeopathy so he has never learned about them. He should have told you this rather than diverting you away from real homoeopathic treatment.
Your TB and your GERD are part of one disease. You cannot cure one and leave the other. In fact, according to homoeopathic philosophy, the more serious disease must cure first, not last. Direction of cure is clear in homoeopathy - cure moves from the centre, from the inside, from more important organs, and it moves to the periphery, the outside, to less important organs. Anything which cures in the opposite direction, is not cure at all but palliation or suppression.
I can only give you my opinion. If my own patient was forced to go to see a doctor, I would consider it a failure on my part to help them, not a failure on the part of homoeopathy which can perform miracles.
Joe is not a doctor, not a trained homoeopath, does not see patients in a clinical setting. He is simply an person who has been interested in homoeopathy, and has created his own version which is not anything like the kind of homoeopathy that is practiced elsewhere in the world. He works for free, and devotes his twilight years to helping people which is admirable. However, he has many limitations because of his lack of education and experience with face-to-face patients.
There are also very few actual trained homoeopaths on this forum. Be aware of that when taking advice. Some people here, despite no formal training, are still quite well educated as they have strived to do this for themselves and show a good grasp of homoeopathic principles. Their advice can still be good.
I do not jump in and interfere with the cases being taken on by other untrained practitioners here as a rule. I only do this when advice is being given that is not in accordance with homoeopathic principles. Joe will see this as some kind of persecution on my part, but it is because he gives advice contrary to homoeopathic practice on a site that is dedicated to homoeopathy.
It might have become too late at this stage for anything but heroic treatment (orthodox intervention). If it is not, then a proper homoeopathic prescription might help. A homoeopathic prescription must be made on the symptoms of the individual patient, not the name of the disease, to be most effective. If you are willing to engage in that kind of case-taking I am happy to attempt to help.
To be fair to Joe, I am also not a doctor, but I am trained as a homoeopath and have worked in clinical environments for almost 20 years. I considered myself competent with homoeopathy although I am not a master. There are many more homoeopaths with greater skill than myself. However, I also work for free here, despite the fact that I have a busy practice of my own in the real world. So our desire to help others is the one thing in common Joe and I have - unfortunately this does not mean we see eye-to-eye over most things, or probably ever will.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 11 May 2011 22:35:00 BST]
Your TB and your GERD are part of one disease. You cannot cure one and leave the other. In fact, according to homoeopathic philosophy, the more serious disease must cure first, not last. Direction of cure is clear in homoeopathy - cure moves from the centre, from the inside, from more important organs, and it moves to the periphery, the outside, to less important organs. Anything which cures in the opposite direction, is not cure at all but palliation or suppression.
I can only give you my opinion. If my own patient was forced to go to see a doctor, I would consider it a failure on my part to help them, not a failure on the part of homoeopathy which can perform miracles.
Joe is not a doctor, not a trained homoeopath, does not see patients in a clinical setting. He is simply an person who has been interested in homoeopathy, and has created his own version which is not anything like the kind of homoeopathy that is practiced elsewhere in the world. He works for free, and devotes his twilight years to helping people which is admirable. However, he has many limitations because of his lack of education and experience with face-to-face patients.
There are also very few actual trained homoeopaths on this forum. Be aware of that when taking advice. Some people here, despite no formal training, are still quite well educated as they have strived to do this for themselves and show a good grasp of homoeopathic principles. Their advice can still be good.
I do not jump in and interfere with the cases being taken on by other untrained practitioners here as a rule. I only do this when advice is being given that is not in accordance with homoeopathic principles. Joe will see this as some kind of persecution on my part, but it is because he gives advice contrary to homoeopathic practice on a site that is dedicated to homoeopathy.
It might have become too late at this stage for anything but heroic treatment (orthodox intervention). If it is not, then a proper homoeopathic prescription might help. A homoeopathic prescription must be made on the symptoms of the individual patient, not the name of the disease, to be most effective. If you are willing to engage in that kind of case-taking I am happy to attempt to help.
To be fair to Joe, I am also not a doctor, but I am trained as a homoeopath and have worked in clinical environments for almost 20 years. I considered myself competent with homoeopathy although I am not a master. There are many more homoeopaths with greater skill than myself. However, I also work for free here, despite the fact that I have a busy practice of my own in the real world. So our desire to help others is the one thing in common Joe and I have - unfortunately this does not mean we see eye-to-eye over most things, or probably ever will.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Wed, 11 May 2011 22:35:00 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David
It was not my intention to retaliate when I read your first post of yesterday but I note that you have continued in your avowed course of trying to belittle my efforts to help Sanam who is unfortunately suffering from Tuberculosis of the Lymph gland in her neck that was obviously the cause of her many problems. It was fortunate that I spotted the constant temperature she was reporting in her many posts and requested her to have herself diagnosed by a doctor who fortunately discovered her problem with TB.
At this point I informed her that there was no remedy in Homeopathy that could possibly help her at the stage her serious disease was, as it was obvious that her only recourse is immediate surgery. I am indeed very surprised that you butted into this post yesterday by bragging about the many treatment strategies that you have used, 'invented?' to treat this dangerous disease. You are welcome to try it out on your own patients but I command you to lay off this patient Sanam immediately.
You did not stop at this stage but continued to vilify me and my Joepathy:
'It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way. '
It seems to me that you, with all your 'qualifications' have not accepted that this case is one where it is ONLY SURGERY that can help the patient. If you still believe that your brand of classical homeopathy can help her, it is obvious that you are suffering under some serious delusion and Lycopodium which I prescribed to you some months ago is the obvious choice to bring you back to reality.
I have often exposed your hollow 'classical' therapy for the non-results that you have produced on the ABC and have often pointed out that you continued to vilify my Joepathy even after the patient confirmed his/her cure. It seems to me that there is some serious blockage in your mental process which needs urgent attention to prevent you from continuing to sow the seeds of dissension on this ABC. I presume that it is the vicarious satisfaction that you get from attacking me personally that keeps you motivated on this thread when, after your first post, you were roundly told by the patient Sanam herself to lay off. Notwithstanding her order you still continue to pester her in the fond hope that she will take you up on your offer when you will perhaps order her to visit you in Brisbane to consult you, as you have often done in the past.
You do seem to be a complete write off in Homeopathy and I often wonder how a person of your caliber can possibly treat a patient with your belligerent attitude towards healing. I would shudder to observe you in real life and presume that your family, if you have one, has since given up in despair at your dictatorial, and mentally unstable manner where you cannot accept reality, as you live in a world of your own delusional grandeur.
Quite frankly I have NEVER encountered a case like you in all my 82 years in this world!!!
I would like to categorically place on record again that Sanam's case MUST be addressed by surgery and it is my fervent hope and prayer that she will recover from it safely even though the path will be long and hard. I shall be there to help her if she still wishes to have me to do so.
You are only deluding yourself that she can still be cured by your 'classical' brand of Homeopathy and I refute your suggestion that my Joepathy is incapable of performing yet another miracle cure. I presume that you have visited my website to read about some of the true miracles of healing that I have recorded therein, many with records from the patients themselves.
It is your own pomposity that will be your eventual damnation and I hope that I shall still be there to observe when it occurs to pick up the pieces.
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
[message edited by Joe De Livera on Thu, 12 May 2011 10:33:02 BST]
It was not my intention to retaliate when I read your first post of yesterday but I note that you have continued in your avowed course of trying to belittle my efforts to help Sanam who is unfortunately suffering from Tuberculosis of the Lymph gland in her neck that was obviously the cause of her many problems. It was fortunate that I spotted the constant temperature she was reporting in her many posts and requested her to have herself diagnosed by a doctor who fortunately discovered her problem with TB.
At this point I informed her that there was no remedy in Homeopathy that could possibly help her at the stage her serious disease was, as it was obvious that her only recourse is immediate surgery. I am indeed very surprised that you butted into this post yesterday by bragging about the many treatment strategies that you have used, 'invented?' to treat this dangerous disease. You are welcome to try it out on your own patients but I command you to lay off this patient Sanam immediately.
You did not stop at this stage but continued to vilify me and my Joepathy:
'It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way. '
It seems to me that you, with all your 'qualifications' have not accepted that this case is one where it is ONLY SURGERY that can help the patient. If you still believe that your brand of classical homeopathy can help her, it is obvious that you are suffering under some serious delusion and Lycopodium which I prescribed to you some months ago is the obvious choice to bring you back to reality.
I have often exposed your hollow 'classical' therapy for the non-results that you have produced on the ABC and have often pointed out that you continued to vilify my Joepathy even after the patient confirmed his/her cure. It seems to me that there is some serious blockage in your mental process which needs urgent attention to prevent you from continuing to sow the seeds of dissension on this ABC. I presume that it is the vicarious satisfaction that you get from attacking me personally that keeps you motivated on this thread when, after your first post, you were roundly told by the patient Sanam herself to lay off. Notwithstanding her order you still continue to pester her in the fond hope that she will take you up on your offer when you will perhaps order her to visit you in Brisbane to consult you, as you have often done in the past.
You do seem to be a complete write off in Homeopathy and I often wonder how a person of your caliber can possibly treat a patient with your belligerent attitude towards healing. I would shudder to observe you in real life and presume that your family, if you have one, has since given up in despair at your dictatorial, and mentally unstable manner where you cannot accept reality, as you live in a world of your own delusional grandeur.
Quite frankly I have NEVER encountered a case like you in all my 82 years in this world!!!
I would like to categorically place on record again that Sanam's case MUST be addressed by surgery and it is my fervent hope and prayer that she will recover from it safely even though the path will be long and hard. I shall be there to help her if she still wishes to have me to do so.
You are only deluding yourself that she can still be cured by your 'classical' brand of Homeopathy and I refute your suggestion that my Joepathy is incapable of performing yet another miracle cure. I presume that you have visited my website to read about some of the true miracles of healing that I have recorded therein, many with records from the patients themselves.
It is your own pomposity that will be your eventual damnation and I hope that I shall still be there to observe when it occurs to pick up the pieces.
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
[message edited by Joe De Livera on Thu, 12 May 2011 10:33:02 BST]
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
To Mr. David,
I feel that you are more interested in targeting Joepathy for your personal reason instead of telling me any solution for my problem, which I am sure you dont have at this stage. This is very unethical and unfair with me.
If Joe sir and other doctors clearly told me that dont take risk of your life because homeopathy will not help you at this stage, this is very fair. That means they dont want me to waste any more time to reach to an incurable stage.
Frankly speaking about all the other doctors of this forum, they left my case after one or two replies, but Joe sir is always there for me, from day 1 till now. He is so concerned and I am so grateful to him that I couldnt explain my feelings in words. He is so caring, kind, noble and down to earth person, he is so thoughtful for his patients. He is always there to help his patients, and his record shows that he is very successful.
When I joined this forum first, I was using Dr. Deo shlok sharmas remedy. I used it for almost 3 months because I dont know how to stop or when to stop, bcoz after suggesting it he didnt reply me again. I sent him a lot of emails in his personal id and try to contact him through this forum again but he never replied me after 1st time. And then Joe sir suggested me some remedies which helped me a lot. So, the question is... where were your professionalism when I joined this forum first?? If my case has been mismanaged for so long, where were YOU PEOPLE at that time? Is it ethical for so called PROFESSIONAL DOCTORS like you people did with me and more patients like me? This is my request to all UNFAIR people PLZ DO NOT INTERFERE WITH MY THREAD IN THE FUTURE unless you truly have some fair solutions for my help instead of targeting others with out any cause. Plz try to be like Joe sir and then talk about what is ethical and what is not.
Thanks a lot.
I feel that you are more interested in targeting Joepathy for your personal reason instead of telling me any solution for my problem, which I am sure you dont have at this stage. This is very unethical and unfair with me.
If Joe sir and other doctors clearly told me that dont take risk of your life because homeopathy will not help you at this stage, this is very fair. That means they dont want me to waste any more time to reach to an incurable stage.
Frankly speaking about all the other doctors of this forum, they left my case after one or two replies, but Joe sir is always there for me, from day 1 till now. He is so concerned and I am so grateful to him that I couldnt explain my feelings in words. He is so caring, kind, noble and down to earth person, he is so thoughtful for his patients. He is always there to help his patients, and his record shows that he is very successful.
When I joined this forum first, I was using Dr. Deo shlok sharmas remedy. I used it for almost 3 months because I dont know how to stop or when to stop, bcoz after suggesting it he didnt reply me again. I sent him a lot of emails in his personal id and try to contact him through this forum again but he never replied me after 1st time. And then Joe sir suggested me some remedies which helped me a lot. So, the question is... where were your professionalism when I joined this forum first?? If my case has been mismanaged for so long, where were YOU PEOPLE at that time? Is it ethical for so called PROFESSIONAL DOCTORS like you people did with me and more patients like me? This is my request to all UNFAIR people PLZ DO NOT INTERFERE WITH MY THREAD IN THE FUTURE unless you truly have some fair solutions for my help instead of targeting others with out any cause. Plz try to be like Joe sir and then talk about what is ethical and what is not.
Thanks a lot.
Sanam16261 last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David
It seems a pity that you deleted your message after you posted it, which I presume you did in an uncontrolled fit of rage after you read Sanam's post ordering you to lay off her thread in the future.
Having posted it, you perhaps realized that your message was too violent and that it may have been the subject of censure by the patient Sanam and the other members of the ABC who may perhaps have been horrified by the tone and contents of your article where I presume you attacked me again as you are wont to do and perhaps even attacked the poor patient Sanam, who you may appreciate, is fighting for her life with her serious encounter with TB of the Lymph Gland in her neck.
I would appreciate if you will please oblige all of us by reposting your article here to enable me and all members of this forum to read it and enlighten ourselves on what really motivates you to be so belligerent in your attitude against me and suffering humanity in general. I have noticed that as long as any patient accepts the classically generated therapy, which you dispense today, albeit very reluctantly without the standard invitation to consult you in your clinic in Brisbane, all is well even though the patient may discover after using the remedy you prescribed, that it did not help. If however the patient dares to question you , you then lose control of your senses and go on attack mode in the manner associated with your general attitude towards healing, which you still maintain is only possible through your own warped interpretation of classical homeopathy. I presume that you have fooled yourself to believe in this untruth as you and others like you have been brainwashed into believing that a cure is only possible through classical homeopathy when many patients who have been badly let down by classical homeopaths like you, will swear otherwise. You can verify my record of helping my patients towards a cure by studying my posts and you will have to grudgingly admit that my record of success is far more positive than yours.
I cannot understand the reason for the hatred that you bear towards me and my Joepathy as I have never attacked you on your many posts to your patients as you do on mine by shadowing mine within a few minutes of posting, usually in about 10 minutes. My posts are always addressed to the patient whom I am treating on that thread but I have observed that as soon as you read mine, you seem impelled by some primordial force to retaliate just as if I had addressed it to you personally, which is never the case. It seems to me that you consider mine as a direct insult to your 'classical homeopathy' which is never the case.
The exception is of course my prescribing Lycopodium to you as I am convinced even today that it fits your picture and feel certain that the sooner you take it, the sooner you will be returned to reality in your life.
I do admit however that when you criticize me and my Joepathy which you invariably do on almost every post I make, I am compelled to respond in my defense and have often had to give you the reason why I prescribed the remedy which you criticized. All this effort is time consuming and I have often discovered that I am compelled to spend more time in writing in my defense than in actually helping my patients.
I have noted that you have rushed to attack my Joepathy even after the patient has confirmed that s/he was cured. I cannot understand how you can possibly do so as the patient is the final arbiter of whether or not s/he was cured or otherwise. It is not up to you to continue in criticizing me even after the chapter was successfully closed.
I really cannot understand the reason why you seem to be so very belligerent in your attitude towards me as you must understand that I am only trying to help suffering humanity in my own manner with my Joepathy today as I have done for the last 40 years. The difference at that time was that I used to follow the classical method that was supposed to be the only way to a cure with the long rigmarole of 'case taking' which does not really amount to much and which usually annoys the majority of patients who consult a classical homeopath where the patient is usually given the run around by the consultant as it guarantees many return visits by the patient, all of which are justified by the homeopath who does not think of the inconvenience caused to the patient who originally consulted him to overcome some ailment.
In the case of Sanam the patient on this thread, I requested her to consult a specialist doctor who would be able to diagnose the reason for her fever and she eventually took my advice and her doctor diagnosed the suspected TB infection in her Lymph Gland. I do categorically maintain even now that there is absolutely no Homeopathic remedy that can possibly help her and my earnest request to her is that she does not lose any time in doing so as every second lost will serve to make her case even more serious than it is today.
As you are aware you have informed her that I am not qualified to speak for 'your' profession by declaring that she could not be cured by Homeopathy. If you still feel that Homeopathy can cure her, I can only state that you are living in a dream world of your own and in so doing, you pose a serious threat to the patients who seek help on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums that I visit which fortunately you have not so far decided to desecrate with your 'professionalism' in classical homeopathy.
All I can state at this juncture is that I pity your attitude to Homeopathy which you are trying to subvert to your own dangerous interpretation of its curative powers which can lead to the patients who suffer from your interference even losing their lives.
I shall copy your insulting post to me for the record below:
'There are many remedies and treatment strategies for TB in homoeopathy. We have a long history of treating this disease successfully, although of course some cases might be difficult or incurable (as determined on an individual basis).
It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way.
I am sorry that your case has been mismanaged for this long, that it has become necessary to turn to allopathy. I would suggest you find help from a qualified professional homoeopath in the future. I hope that such mismanagement has not placed you at risk from the allopathic drugs and surgery you are now forced to rely on.
It is one thing to admit that your treatment has been unsuccessful. It is quite another to declare a patient uanble to be helped because you have personally failed to help them. I have made this same complaint several times on this forum and it continues to happen. We all fail at times, it is simply human to do so. I certainly cannot help everyone, but I am not so proud that I believe that such an event is the end of help for someone. I simply refer them on to another homoeopath.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath'
Joe De Livera
It seems a pity that you deleted your message after you posted it, which I presume you did in an uncontrolled fit of rage after you read Sanam's post ordering you to lay off her thread in the future.
Having posted it, you perhaps realized that your message was too violent and that it may have been the subject of censure by the patient Sanam and the other members of the ABC who may perhaps have been horrified by the tone and contents of your article where I presume you attacked me again as you are wont to do and perhaps even attacked the poor patient Sanam, who you may appreciate, is fighting for her life with her serious encounter with TB of the Lymph Gland in her neck.
I would appreciate if you will please oblige all of us by reposting your article here to enable me and all members of this forum to read it and enlighten ourselves on what really motivates you to be so belligerent in your attitude against me and suffering humanity in general. I have noticed that as long as any patient accepts the classically generated therapy, which you dispense today, albeit very reluctantly without the standard invitation to consult you in your clinic in Brisbane, all is well even though the patient may discover after using the remedy you prescribed, that it did not help. If however the patient dares to question you , you then lose control of your senses and go on attack mode in the manner associated with your general attitude towards healing, which you still maintain is only possible through your own warped interpretation of classical homeopathy. I presume that you have fooled yourself to believe in this untruth as you and others like you have been brainwashed into believing that a cure is only possible through classical homeopathy when many patients who have been badly let down by classical homeopaths like you, will swear otherwise. You can verify my record of helping my patients towards a cure by studying my posts and you will have to grudgingly admit that my record of success is far more positive than yours.
I cannot understand the reason for the hatred that you bear towards me and my Joepathy as I have never attacked you on your many posts to your patients as you do on mine by shadowing mine within a few minutes of posting, usually in about 10 minutes. My posts are always addressed to the patient whom I am treating on that thread but I have observed that as soon as you read mine, you seem impelled by some primordial force to retaliate just as if I had addressed it to you personally, which is never the case. It seems to me that you consider mine as a direct insult to your 'classical homeopathy' which is never the case.
The exception is of course my prescribing Lycopodium to you as I am convinced even today that it fits your picture and feel certain that the sooner you take it, the sooner you will be returned to reality in your life.
I do admit however that when you criticize me and my Joepathy which you invariably do on almost every post I make, I am compelled to respond in my defense and have often had to give you the reason why I prescribed the remedy which you criticized. All this effort is time consuming and I have often discovered that I am compelled to spend more time in writing in my defense than in actually helping my patients.
I have noted that you have rushed to attack my Joepathy even after the patient has confirmed that s/he was cured. I cannot understand how you can possibly do so as the patient is the final arbiter of whether or not s/he was cured or otherwise. It is not up to you to continue in criticizing me even after the chapter was successfully closed.
I really cannot understand the reason why you seem to be so very belligerent in your attitude towards me as you must understand that I am only trying to help suffering humanity in my own manner with my Joepathy today as I have done for the last 40 years. The difference at that time was that I used to follow the classical method that was supposed to be the only way to a cure with the long rigmarole of 'case taking' which does not really amount to much and which usually annoys the majority of patients who consult a classical homeopath where the patient is usually given the run around by the consultant as it guarantees many return visits by the patient, all of which are justified by the homeopath who does not think of the inconvenience caused to the patient who originally consulted him to overcome some ailment.
In the case of Sanam the patient on this thread, I requested her to consult a specialist doctor who would be able to diagnose the reason for her fever and she eventually took my advice and her doctor diagnosed the suspected TB infection in her Lymph Gland. I do categorically maintain even now that there is absolutely no Homeopathic remedy that can possibly help her and my earnest request to her is that she does not lose any time in doing so as every second lost will serve to make her case even more serious than it is today.
As you are aware you have informed her that I am not qualified to speak for 'your' profession by declaring that she could not be cured by Homeopathy. If you still feel that Homeopathy can cure her, I can only state that you are living in a dream world of your own and in so doing, you pose a serious threat to the patients who seek help on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums that I visit which fortunately you have not so far decided to desecrate with your 'professionalism' in classical homeopathy.
All I can state at this juncture is that I pity your attitude to Homeopathy which you are trying to subvert to your own dangerous interpretation of its curative powers which can lead to the patients who suffer from your interference even losing their lives.
I shall copy your insulting post to me for the record below:
'There are many remedies and treatment strategies for TB in homoeopathy. We have a long history of treating this disease successfully, although of course some cases might be difficult or incurable (as determined on an individual basis).
It is not ethical for one person to be speaking for the homoepathic profession in this way and declaring you incurable, especially when he is not even a member of that profession. Even as a member of the profession, I would not speak for all other practitioners in this way.
I am sorry that your case has been mismanaged for this long, that it has become necessary to turn to allopathy. I would suggest you find help from a qualified professional homoeopath in the future. I hope that such mismanagement has not placed you at risk from the allopathic drugs and surgery you are now forced to rely on.
It is one thing to admit that your treatment has been unsuccessful. It is quite another to declare a patient uanble to be helped because you have personally failed to help them. I have made this same complaint several times on this forum and it continues to happen. We all fail at times, it is simply human to do so. I certainly cannot help everyone, but I am not so proud that I believe that such an event is the end of help for someone. I simply refer them on to another homoeopath.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath'
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Actually Joe I removed this thread because I wanted to avoid the argument I knew you would want to create here. However, you have done it anyway. I also thought better of continuing to post in a thread where the patient asked me not to. What right do you have to repost something I deleted?
If someone wishes to take advice from an person with no training in homoeopathy, no clinical experience with patients, no medical training, and knowledge of only a handful of our 5000 medicines - well that is their choice.
But this poor patient has been convinced by you that there is no hope.
It is an evil act to steal hope away from the sick.
I can only hope for the best for Sanam, despite what has happened here. My offer of aid was genuine and I am hurt by the implication that I had some kind of agenda. I hope that your surgery goes well and that you can return to a healthy life.
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If someone wishes to take advice from an person with no training in homoeopathy, no clinical experience with patients, no medical training, and knowledge of only a handful of our 5000 medicines - well that is their choice.
But this poor patient has been convinced by you that there is no hope.
It is an evil act to steal hope away from the sick.
I can only hope for the best for Sanam, despite what has happened here. My offer of aid was genuine and I am hurt by the implication that I had some kind of agenda. I hope that your surgery goes well and that you can return to a healthy life.
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♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David
Once again I can see that you have jumped the gun. You accuse me of 'reposting something I deleted'.
As anyone can read, I did NOT repost what you deleted. All I did was to copy and paste your own post of May 11. I do not have any telepathic means to ferret out what you trashed and deleted from the ABC today. All I did was to quote your post and you have again jumped the gun by not reading it and presuming that I had a telepathic means of resurrecting the post you trashed.
For good measure you have also insulted me again by stating:
'You are not a homoeopath. You know almost nothing about homoeopathy. You have no clinical experience with patients. You have no right, not ever, to declare someone incurable by homoeopathy. This is simply the truth, not an insult. '
I do really wonder what your comprehension of the word INSULT is. Here is the dictionary definition of this word just in case you have not done any research in the use of English of which as you may have realized by now, I am a scholar.
'insult
verb |inˈsəlt| [ trans. ]
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse : you're insulting the woman I love | [asadj. ] ( insulting) their language is crude and insulting to women.
noun |ˈinˌsəlt|
1 a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action : he hurled insults at us | he saw the book as a deliberate insult to the Church.
a thing so worthless or contemptible as to be offensive : the present offer is an absolute insult.
2 Medicine an event or occurrence that causes damage to a tissue or organ : the movement of the bone causes a severe tissue insult.
PHRASES
add insult to injury act in a way that makes a bad or displeasing situation worse.'
It is now obvious that you have epitomized Boericke in his MM on Lycopodium and you have proved my point that it is Lycopodium alone that can possibly bring you back to the real world:
Mind.--Melancholy; afraid tobe alone. Little things annoy, Extremely sensitive. Averse to undertaking new things. Head strong and haughty when sick. Loss of self-confidence. Hurried when eating. Constant fear of breaking down under stress. Apprehensive. Weak memory, confused thoughts; spells or writes wrong words and syllables. Failing brain-power (Anac; Phos; Baryt). Cannot bear to see anything new. Cannot read what he writes. Sadness in morning on awaking.
I would emphasize that it is the last sentence that qualifies my diagnosis of your mind:
'Cannot bear to see anything new. CANNOT READ WHAT HE WRITES. Sadness in morning on awaking.'
I note that you still feel that I did Sanam a grave wrong by suggesting that she consults a specialist which I presume she has already done today.
You further stated:
'But this poor patient has been convinced by you that there is no hope.
It is an evil act to steal hope away from the sick. '
I wonder if you realize that had I advised her as you still insist on doing, there is a distinct possibility that she may lose her life without surgery.
Will you take the responsibility for her murder by default?
And all this in the name of Classical Homeopathy a la David Kempson.
It occurs to me that your therapy can be classified as 'Davidopathy' !!!
You just make me SICK !
Joe De Livera
Once again I can see that you have jumped the gun. You accuse me of 'reposting something I deleted'.
As anyone can read, I did NOT repost what you deleted. All I did was to copy and paste your own post of May 11. I do not have any telepathic means to ferret out what you trashed and deleted from the ABC today. All I did was to quote your post and you have again jumped the gun by not reading it and presuming that I had a telepathic means of resurrecting the post you trashed.
For good measure you have also insulted me again by stating:
'You are not a homoeopath. You know almost nothing about homoeopathy. You have no clinical experience with patients. You have no right, not ever, to declare someone incurable by homoeopathy. This is simply the truth, not an insult. '
I do really wonder what your comprehension of the word INSULT is. Here is the dictionary definition of this word just in case you have not done any research in the use of English of which as you may have realized by now, I am a scholar.
'insult
verb |inˈsəlt| [ trans. ]
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse : you're insulting the woman I love | [asadj. ] ( insulting) their language is crude and insulting to women.
noun |ˈinˌsəlt|
1 a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action : he hurled insults at us | he saw the book as a deliberate insult to the Church.
a thing so worthless or contemptible as to be offensive : the present offer is an absolute insult.
2 Medicine an event or occurrence that causes damage to a tissue or organ : the movement of the bone causes a severe tissue insult.
PHRASES
add insult to injury act in a way that makes a bad or displeasing situation worse.'
It is now obvious that you have epitomized Boericke in his MM on Lycopodium and you have proved my point that it is Lycopodium alone that can possibly bring you back to the real world:
Mind.--Melancholy; afraid tobe alone. Little things annoy, Extremely sensitive. Averse to undertaking new things. Head strong and haughty when sick. Loss of self-confidence. Hurried when eating. Constant fear of breaking down under stress. Apprehensive. Weak memory, confused thoughts; spells or writes wrong words and syllables. Failing brain-power (Anac; Phos; Baryt). Cannot bear to see anything new. Cannot read what he writes. Sadness in morning on awaking.
I would emphasize that it is the last sentence that qualifies my diagnosis of your mind:
'Cannot bear to see anything new. CANNOT READ WHAT HE WRITES. Sadness in morning on awaking.'
I note that you still feel that I did Sanam a grave wrong by suggesting that she consults a specialist which I presume she has already done today.
You further stated:
'But this poor patient has been convinced by you that there is no hope.
It is an evil act to steal hope away from the sick. '
I wonder if you realize that had I advised her as you still insist on doing, there is a distinct possibility that she may lose her life without surgery.
Will you take the responsibility for her murder by default?
And all this in the name of Classical Homeopathy a la David Kempson.
It occurs to me that your therapy can be classified as 'Davidopathy' !!!
You just make me SICK !
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
It is not an insult to speak the truth. The truth may not be pleasant to certain ears, but this does not make it an insult.
I have not asked this person to not have surgery. I have stated that you, Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.
All other attempts to make me rise to an argument are summarily ignored.
I have spoken my piece for whatever good it does. No attempt to bully me into silence will work however.
Have a nice day Joe.
I have not asked this person to not have surgery. I have stated that you, Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.
All other attempts to make me rise to an argument are summarily ignored.
I have spoken my piece for whatever good it does. No attempt to bully me into silence will work however.
Have a nice day Joe.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David
I must admit that your tenacity to make your point is admirable but there is a fine distinction between making it and insisting that it is only your viewpoint that is correct.
You state:
'I have not asked this person to not have surgery. I have stated that you, Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.'
it is obvious to me now that your mental process is completely warped to the extend that you just do not seem to be able to logically analyze the problem and make up your mind what to say or do next.
I am prepared to overlook the insult you make 'Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.'. I presume that you mean to imply that only you are qualified to do so merely because you sport that piece of paper to prove that you have been through some Homeopathic college. You must understand that it is not this certificate that matters. It is the mind behind it, that does.
In this case it is time you got it into your addled brain that we are dealing with a human life, the life of a girl whom I have been treating for some time and who at my request consulted specialist doctors who advised immediate surgery to excise the Lymph Gland that they discovered was infected by the TB Bacteria. Delay will only mean further invasion of the bacteria and this is the reason why I informed her that she is BEYOND HOMEOPATHIC HELP. The reason I did so was because she trusted me to guide her and I felt that with my experience in Homeopathy which is obviously far more than yours, I insisted that she does not lose a minute longer than is necessary to have the focus of the infection surgically excised.
You have taken it upon yourself to speak for the whole world of Homeopathy that this science which you do not seem to have truly accepted as it should be as the therapy that can cure up to a certain level, and you insist on maintaining that 'I have not asked this person to not have surgery'.
If this is the case, may I inquire what all this hot wind is about? On the one hand I have advised her to go into surgery immediately and on the other hand you state that you, David, can cure her with your own brand of 'Davidopathy'. Errant Rubbish !
I believe that it is your crass stupidity that impels you to continue to insist that you can.
This is the reason why I was forced to inform you in my last post that
YOU JUST MAKE ME SICK !
Joe De Livwera
I must admit that your tenacity to make your point is admirable but there is a fine distinction between making it and insisting that it is only your viewpoint that is correct.
You state:
'I have not asked this person to not have surgery. I have stated that you, Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.'
it is obvious to me now that your mental process is completely warped to the extend that you just do not seem to be able to logically analyze the problem and make up your mind what to say or do next.
I am prepared to overlook the insult you make 'Joe, are not qualified to pronounce anyone incurable by homoeopathy.'. I presume that you mean to imply that only you are qualified to do so merely because you sport that piece of paper to prove that you have been through some Homeopathic college. You must understand that it is not this certificate that matters. It is the mind behind it, that does.
In this case it is time you got it into your addled brain that we are dealing with a human life, the life of a girl whom I have been treating for some time and who at my request consulted specialist doctors who advised immediate surgery to excise the Lymph Gland that they discovered was infected by the TB Bacteria. Delay will only mean further invasion of the bacteria and this is the reason why I informed her that she is BEYOND HOMEOPATHIC HELP. The reason I did so was because she trusted me to guide her and I felt that with my experience in Homeopathy which is obviously far more than yours, I insisted that she does not lose a minute longer than is necessary to have the focus of the infection surgically excised.
You have taken it upon yourself to speak for the whole world of Homeopathy that this science which you do not seem to have truly accepted as it should be as the therapy that can cure up to a certain level, and you insist on maintaining that 'I have not asked this person to not have surgery'.
If this is the case, may I inquire what all this hot wind is about? On the one hand I have advised her to go into surgery immediately and on the other hand you state that you, David, can cure her with your own brand of 'Davidopathy'. Errant Rubbish !
I believe that it is your crass stupidity that impels you to continue to insist that you can.
This is the reason why I was forced to inform you in my last post that
YOU JUST MAKE ME SICK !
Joe De Livwera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Hi uncle Joe,
I consult with another doctor when you suggest me to do so. And I brief him not to give any medicines which result in causing disturbance in my stomach. But he told me that there are specific remedies for Tuberculosis treatment. So they dont have any choice. So I started using T.B medicines before a week with a lot of fears in my heart. First day it was bad, I was feeling so much dizzy. I also felt nausea but it was controlled by a homeopathic medicine I used before when I feel nausea. Miraculously every thing was under control, I wasnt that worst as I were thinking. Nausea feeling was finished after 5 days. But still feel dizzy after taking medicines. Acidity is so much under control with Nat phos. I also take a cap full of Arnica before sleeping. Your remedies are still helping me a lot. I still have so much pain on my surgical area, especially in the night. I am still sleepless. Doctor told me some medicine for my swelling and pain, but it will cause vomiting, thats why I am not using it, because I want to continue with my TB treatment which is more important than any thing. Otherwise doctors told me that this pain and lymph node will be ok with TB medicines after 8 weeks, and Ill go for it other than using pain relief antibiotics which will cause mess in my stomach.
So, its good that my T.B treatment is going on. I have completed first week successfully and I am feeling little better than before. My doctor told me after a weekly checkup that I am improving. Plz pray for me that Ill complete this treatment successfully till the end. And thanks a lot for your constant help and support. You are an angel infact.
I stopped mailing you here due to constant interference of some people, and started to mail you on your personal id. But I hope all these unfair things will not occur again.
Thank you and take care of yourself.
I consult with another doctor when you suggest me to do so. And I brief him not to give any medicines which result in causing disturbance in my stomach. But he told me that there are specific remedies for Tuberculosis treatment. So they dont have any choice. So I started using T.B medicines before a week with a lot of fears in my heart. First day it was bad, I was feeling so much dizzy. I also felt nausea but it was controlled by a homeopathic medicine I used before when I feel nausea. Miraculously every thing was under control, I wasnt that worst as I were thinking. Nausea feeling was finished after 5 days. But still feel dizzy after taking medicines. Acidity is so much under control with Nat phos. I also take a cap full of Arnica before sleeping. Your remedies are still helping me a lot. I still have so much pain on my surgical area, especially in the night. I am still sleepless. Doctor told me some medicine for my swelling and pain, but it will cause vomiting, thats why I am not using it, because I want to continue with my TB treatment which is more important than any thing. Otherwise doctors told me that this pain and lymph node will be ok with TB medicines after 8 weeks, and Ill go for it other than using pain relief antibiotics which will cause mess in my stomach.
So, its good that my T.B treatment is going on. I have completed first week successfully and I am feeling little better than before. My doctor told me after a weekly checkup that I am improving. Plz pray for me that Ill complete this treatment successfully till the end. And thanks a lot for your constant help and support. You are an angel infact.
I stopped mailing you here due to constant interference of some people, and started to mail you on your personal id. But I hope all these unfair things will not occur again.
Thank you and take care of yourself.
Sanam16261 last decade
It is absolutely essential that you follow the advice of your doctors and take all the drugs they have prescribed for your TB as your case of this disease affecting your Lymph node is not common. I do not believe that there is any Homeopathic remedy that can help you like the drugs which have been tested and have successfully eradicated TB.
The pain you are suffering from the incision can be reduced by taking Hypericum 200 in the Wet dose every 3-4 hours. Please report if it does help.
Continue with the Nat Phos and the Arnica and keep me posted of your progress.
My prayers are always with you.
Let us observe if my Australian opponent will continue to attack me today on your thread.
The pain you are suffering from the incision can be reduced by taking Hypericum 200 in the Wet dose every 3-4 hours. Please report if it does help.
Continue with the Nat Phos and the Arnica and keep me posted of your progress.
My prayers are always with you.
Let us observe if my Australian opponent will continue to attack me today on your thread.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you.. and i am completely agree with you that their is no remedy in homeopathic for T.B cure.
I don't think so Mr. David will interfare again. I don't wan't any mess again.
take care and i'll keep reporting you.
I don't think so Mr. David will interfare again. I don't wan't any mess again.
take care and i'll keep reporting you.
Sanam16261 last decade
I simply cannot let this lie, probably says something about my nature. This is nothing to do with Joe now, but everything to do with the reputation of homoeopathy.
So here are some facts.
Clemens Maria Franz Baron von Boenninghausen was cured of TB in 1827 by Samuel Hahnemann himself (and consequently became a student of homoeopathy).
Christian Theodore Hermann, a German physician that converted to homoeopathy, conducted many clinical trials showing that homoeopathy successfully treated TB, which resulted in homoeopathy being sanctioned by the Russian Tsar Nicholas I.
Constantine Hering (the Father of American Homoeopathy) successfully treated TB using isopathic remedies (using TB itself in a potentized form).
Joseph Attomyr, a Croatian physican also who converted to homoeopathy, cured himself of TB using the remedy Sepia in 1830.
Benoit Jules Mure was converted to homoeopathy in 1835 when his TB was cured by the homoeopath Sebastien Gaeten Salvador Maxime des Guidi.
Federal Vanderburgh, another orthodox physician who converted to homoeopathy, cured himself of TB in 1837 using homoeopathic medicines. His cures became so famous that 42 doctors converted to homoeopathy over 20 years.
Mary Sargeant Gove Nichols was cured of TB by homoeopathic in 1838.
Frederic Chopin, the Polish composer, came to Edinburgh in 1848 so ill he could not continue performing. He was treated with homoeopathy and become well enough to continue travelling until his death in 1849. It is actually thought he died from Cystic fibrosis not tuberculosis.
Catherine Booth, one of the founders of the Salvation Army, was cured of TB in 1849 by Adam Lyszczynski using homoeopathy. She actually died of c-ancer in 1890, over 40 years later.
Diocletian Lewis, and American physician, cured his own wife of TB in 1851 using homoeopathy, and his Consumption Cure became famous throughout America.
Emily Dickinson, the American poet, was cured of TB by William Wesselhoeft using homoepathy in 1852.
In 1852 there were clinical trials conducted throughout Europe, involving approximately 50,000 patients. Many of cured cases of tuberculosis were recorded.
Fewster Robert Horner, President of the British Medical Association had been a virulent sceptic of homoeopathy, until he found he could cure tuberculosis using homoeopathic medicines in the year 1857. He became a staunch supporter then until his death.
It is known that around 1861, orthodox doctors who publically denounced homoeopathy, would secretly send their tuberculosis patients to the Malvern Hydrotherapy Establishment where James Manby Gully would use homoeopathy to cure them.
James Compton Burnett publised 54 cured cases of tuberculosis in his book 'Five Years Experience in the New Cure of Consumption by its Own Virus', in 1890.
Leonard Lambreght, a Belgian doctor, published several cured cases of tuberculosis in 1896.
Antoine Nebel was a swiss doctor who ran a Tuberculosis sanitorium in the Swiss Alps where he used homoeopathy to cure patients in the early 1900s.
Charles Mondain, a french physician, recorded successful cures of pertioneal TB with homoeopathy.
Karl Rankl, the British composer, was cured of TB as a child using homoeopathic treatment.
The Homoeopathic Hospital in Neuilly in France operated up until 1918 treating tuberculosis with homoeopathy.
Edward Hesketh Gibbons Pearson, a British actor and theatre director and writer, successfully recovered from tuberculosis in 1918 under the care of the homoeopath Raphael Roche.
Robert Dufilho, a French doctor, converted to homoeopathy after he was cured of Tuberculosis in 1931.
And these are just the famous names...imagine all the ordinary people who were cured. There have been many many books written on homoeopathic cure of tuberculosis by homoeopathy.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:08:52 BST]
So here are some facts.
Clemens Maria Franz Baron von Boenninghausen was cured of TB in 1827 by Samuel Hahnemann himself (and consequently became a student of homoeopathy).
Christian Theodore Hermann, a German physician that converted to homoeopathy, conducted many clinical trials showing that homoeopathy successfully treated TB, which resulted in homoeopathy being sanctioned by the Russian Tsar Nicholas I.
Constantine Hering (the Father of American Homoeopathy) successfully treated TB using isopathic remedies (using TB itself in a potentized form).
Joseph Attomyr, a Croatian physican also who converted to homoeopathy, cured himself of TB using the remedy Sepia in 1830.
Benoit Jules Mure was converted to homoeopathy in 1835 when his TB was cured by the homoeopath Sebastien Gaeten Salvador Maxime des Guidi.
Federal Vanderburgh, another orthodox physician who converted to homoeopathy, cured himself of TB in 1837 using homoeopathic medicines. His cures became so famous that 42 doctors converted to homoeopathy over 20 years.
Mary Sargeant Gove Nichols was cured of TB by homoeopathic in 1838.
Frederic Chopin, the Polish composer, came to Edinburgh in 1848 so ill he could not continue performing. He was treated with homoeopathy and become well enough to continue travelling until his death in 1849. It is actually thought he died from Cystic fibrosis not tuberculosis.
Catherine Booth, one of the founders of the Salvation Army, was cured of TB in 1849 by Adam Lyszczynski using homoeopathy. She actually died of c-ancer in 1890, over 40 years later.
Diocletian Lewis, and American physician, cured his own wife of TB in 1851 using homoeopathy, and his Consumption Cure became famous throughout America.
Emily Dickinson, the American poet, was cured of TB by William Wesselhoeft using homoepathy in 1852.
In 1852 there were clinical trials conducted throughout Europe, involving approximately 50,000 patients. Many of cured cases of tuberculosis were recorded.
Fewster Robert Horner, President of the British Medical Association had been a virulent sceptic of homoeopathy, until he found he could cure tuberculosis using homoeopathic medicines in the year 1857. He became a staunch supporter then until his death.
It is known that around 1861, orthodox doctors who publically denounced homoeopathy, would secretly send their tuberculosis patients to the Malvern Hydrotherapy Establishment where James Manby Gully would use homoeopathy to cure them.
James Compton Burnett publised 54 cured cases of tuberculosis in his book 'Five Years Experience in the New Cure of Consumption by its Own Virus', in 1890.
Leonard Lambreght, a Belgian doctor, published several cured cases of tuberculosis in 1896.
Antoine Nebel was a swiss doctor who ran a Tuberculosis sanitorium in the Swiss Alps where he used homoeopathy to cure patients in the early 1900s.
Charles Mondain, a french physician, recorded successful cures of pertioneal TB with homoeopathy.
Karl Rankl, the British composer, was cured of TB as a child using homoeopathic treatment.
The Homoeopathic Hospital in Neuilly in France operated up until 1918 treating tuberculosis with homoeopathy.
Edward Hesketh Gibbons Pearson, a British actor and theatre director and writer, successfully recovered from tuberculosis in 1918 under the care of the homoeopath Raphael Roche.
Robert Dufilho, a French doctor, converted to homoeopathy after he was cured of Tuberculosis in 1931.
And these are just the famous names...imagine all the ordinary people who were cured. There have been many many books written on homoeopathic cure of tuberculosis by homoeopathy.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:08:52 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David
Please let me know how many patients with TB have been CURED by you.
I will require proof of their cure to believe you.
I would not dare to emulate the greats in Homeopathy although many remedies are listed on Radar. I feel that it would be presumptuous on my part to use a Homeopathic remedy when the drugs that are now used have been tried and tested and hopefully will cure my patient.
Please let me know how many patients with TB have been CURED by you.
I will require proof of their cure to believe you.
I would not dare to emulate the greats in Homeopathy although many remedies are listed on Radar. I feel that it would be presumptuous on my part to use a Homeopathic remedy when the drugs that are now used have been tried and tested and hopefully will cure my patient.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
And here we have a clinical trial showing the effectiveness of homoeopathy in treating Tuberculosis.
http://www.delhihomeo.com/tuberculosis.htm
http://www.delhihomeo.com/tuberculosis.htm
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David
You have not answered my question.
I am NOT interested in what the Homeopathic greats nor what Delhi Homeo have done.
All I am interested in is to learn if you have CURED a patient who presented TB?
Would you have dared to take her case for TB instead of permitting her to use the standard drugs to cure her?
Remember that this girl I am helping presented TB of her Lymph Gland which I am informed is rare.
You have not answered my question.
I am NOT interested in what the Homeopathic greats nor what Delhi Homeo have done.
All I am interested in is to learn if you have CURED a patient who presented TB?
Would you have dared to take her case for TB instead of permitting her to use the standard drugs to cure her?
Remember that this girl I am helping presented TB of her Lymph Gland which I am informed is rare.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
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