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Hi. The alumina has arrived, 1M liquid.
I am about to place the three drops into the water and take the two teaspoonfuls but what do I do with the rest? Seems a waste to throw it away seeing as it cost me well over £6 including the postage just for a tiny 5ml bottle!
I am about to place the three drops into the water and take the two teaspoonfuls but what do I do with the rest? Seems a waste to throw it away seeing as it cost me well over £6 including the postage just for a tiny 5ml bottle!
Alijaybee 9 years ago
You only throw out the cup of water you put the drops in. The bottle you keep for further doses (if necessary).
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
No, sorry, I meant the water. Seems strange to put three drops in the water, take just two teaspoonfuls of the water then throw the rest away. I can't abide waste. Wouldn't putting one drop in 33mls of water be the same dilution as I'm only taking a fraction of the water anyway?
Alijaybee 9 years ago
The amount of water for the actual dose,
is set up to make the remedy more gentle
with less chance of aggravation, and
has been thought out.
The next dose of the remedy will depend on your reactions to this dose.
The next dose could be having you hit the bottle more, which changes the dose potency.
So there is no point in keeping this water, or reducing the amount of water.
is set up to make the remedy more gentle
with less chance of aggravation, and
has been thought out.
The next dose of the remedy will depend on your reactions to this dose.
The next dose could be having you hit the bottle more, which changes the dose potency.
So there is no point in keeping this water, or reducing the amount of water.
♡ simone717 9 years ago
Those drops transform the entire cup of water into a medicine. It actually makes it more effective, not less. However it reduces the risk of aggravation (although it cannot eliminate it).
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes, I kind of get that, but it just seems a waste to throw the 'activated' water away when there is so much still left.
Presumably, if I have another dose, I'd use another three drops and throw the left over water away that time too!
Presumably, if I have another dose, I'd use another three drops and throw the left over water away that time too!
Alijaybee 9 years ago
That's right. The medicine needs to be made fresh each time, because the hits on the bottle (succussion) changes the potency ever so slightly, and this is necessary to maintain the forward movement of the changes the medicine makes.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
homeopathy is like cures like in
MINIMUM DOSE- Evocationer is having
you make up a certain dilution of
medicine by the amount of water
he tells you to use.
Then he is telling you to take a Minimum
dose out of that mix-He could tell
you to drink the whole thing, but that
would not be a minimum dose.
MINIMUM DOSE- Evocationer is having
you make up a certain dilution of
medicine by the amount of water
he tells you to use.
Then he is telling you to take a Minimum
dose out of that mix-He could tell
you to drink the whole thing, but that
would not be a minimum dose.
♡ simone717 9 years ago
I suppose it's the frugal housewife in me that is coming out, if I am making a meal for two I don't make enough food to feed 20 people and throw the rest away... :0)
Alijaybee 9 years ago
Hi- If you were to buy this exact medicine prescription-- in a pharmacy-
you would not know how it was originally made into
that form for you. Someone could give you a bottle that
had already been prepared and tell you to take 5 drops.
But that would cost a lot more.
With homeopathy the medicine is changed by the water and
amounts of water used. For people who are very sensitive,
and who can have intense aggravations, the more water
that the drops or pills are put into- Affects the way the
body responds.
Some people have to have drops put into one cup then take
a tsp out of that cup and put into another cup, then take
a tsp out of that cup and put into another cup and then
finally use just one tsp out of the 4th cup or whichever one
keeps the remedy gentle enough.
In the above example one could be throwing away 4 cups of
water or more to get to the right dilution medicinal level.
And then you just take the minimum dose out of that.
So we are talking about how to make the medicine that
works for you ( and things get changed due to your reaction)
and the minimum dose for you.
The system has rules on how to make medicines correctly.
[message edited by simone717 on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:23:14 BST]
you would not know how it was originally made into
that form for you. Someone could give you a bottle that
had already been prepared and tell you to take 5 drops.
But that would cost a lot more.
With homeopathy the medicine is changed by the water and
amounts of water used. For people who are very sensitive,
and who can have intense aggravations, the more water
that the drops or pills are put into- Affects the way the
body responds.
Some people have to have drops put into one cup then take
a tsp out of that cup and put into another cup, then take
a tsp out of that cup and put into another cup and then
finally use just one tsp out of the 4th cup or whichever one
keeps the remedy gentle enough.
In the above example one could be throwing away 4 cups of
water or more to get to the right dilution medicinal level.
And then you just take the minimum dose out of that.
So we are talking about how to make the medicine that
works for you ( and things get changed due to your reaction)
and the minimum dose for you.
The system has rules on how to make medicines correctly.
[message edited by simone717 on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:23:14 BST]
♡ simone717 9 years ago
Alijaybee 9 years ago
Ok doesn't seem that you are overly sensitive to remedies. In that case, take 3 more doses, once each day. Remember to STOP if any symptoms aggravate.
If there is an aggravation of some kind, do not suppress it with other kinds of medication.
If there is an aggravation of some kind, do not suppress it with other kinds of medication.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Ok. I took this for three days.
Not sure what i should have expected, but there has been no obvious reaction.
The worms still wont let me sleep, i am still very tired and devoid of energy.
What should I do now please?
Not sure what i should have expected, but there has been no obvious reaction.
The worms still wont let me sleep, i am still very tired and devoid of energy.
What should I do now please?
Alijaybee 9 years ago
No reaction at all? Interesting - even on the wrong remedy there is frequently some kind of reaction. Strange.
Alright let me look over it one more time.
Alright let me look over it one more time.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Alright I have sat with this all day thinking about it. I was looking at various rubrics that might cover the way in which you experience the worms and their movments or activities. There are a few of the, but I looked mainly at this one:
Formication, under the skin - cadm-s, calc, cocain, phos, SEC, tub, zinc
Cocain as a remedy is well known for producing a feeling of worms being under the skin, which means it can cure that (just as Arnica produces the sensation of a bruise and therefore can cure actual bruises).
However I wasn't sure I could stretch the remedy further over your case. It certainly is an interesting idea though and I think it should be something we can try should this next idea fail to produce results.
When I looked at that Formication rubric, what struck me was the main remedy in it - Secale. This is a fungus that is a parasite living on wheat (Ergot). My mind sparked when I saw that.
The themes of the Fungi group in homoeopathy are:
Invading
Eroding
Burrowing
Digging
Boring
Gnawing
Penetrating
Spreading
Danger
Robbers/Theft
Superhuman control
Fighting
This is where the light went on. The state of the person needing a Fungi remedy is one where something has invaded them, is spreading and eating them up from the inside, and they become weak almost hollow. It takes them over, and they are helpless to stop it.
Now there are a number of Fungi remedies in homoeopathy. Candida is one, and I notice you have had a candida infection in your history. Secale belongs to the Leprosy miasm. I was not sure this miasm suited you (miasm is an overall pattern of disease). If I look at the general pattern I would be more likely to consider the Ringworm, Malarial or Sycotic miasms because of the sense of internal weakness. The response of the Sycotic patient is to cope, avoid, hide, or accept their condition. There seemed to be a lot of this especially when I looked further across your case into the mental and emotionals.
I then looked at one of the peculiar symptoms you have - Aggravation from Full Moon. In this rubric there are only 2 Fungi remedies - Bovista (puffball) and Solanum tuberosum aegrotans (a mould that affects potatoes). Bov is Sycotic, Sol-t-ae is Leprous (along with Secale).
I think I will need some more time to research these remedies, and see if any of them suit your specific symptoms.
Formication, under the skin - cadm-s, calc, cocain, phos, SEC, tub, zinc
Cocain as a remedy is well known for producing a feeling of worms being under the skin, which means it can cure that (just as Arnica produces the sensation of a bruise and therefore can cure actual bruises).
However I wasn't sure I could stretch the remedy further over your case. It certainly is an interesting idea though and I think it should be something we can try should this next idea fail to produce results.
When I looked at that Formication rubric, what struck me was the main remedy in it - Secale. This is a fungus that is a parasite living on wheat (Ergot). My mind sparked when I saw that.
The themes of the Fungi group in homoeopathy are:
Invading
Eroding
Burrowing
Digging
Boring
Gnawing
Penetrating
Spreading
Danger
Robbers/Theft
Superhuman control
Fighting
This is where the light went on. The state of the person needing a Fungi remedy is one where something has invaded them, is spreading and eating them up from the inside, and they become weak almost hollow. It takes them over, and they are helpless to stop it.
Now there are a number of Fungi remedies in homoeopathy. Candida is one, and I notice you have had a candida infection in your history. Secale belongs to the Leprosy miasm. I was not sure this miasm suited you (miasm is an overall pattern of disease). If I look at the general pattern I would be more likely to consider the Ringworm, Malarial or Sycotic miasms because of the sense of internal weakness. The response of the Sycotic patient is to cope, avoid, hide, or accept their condition. There seemed to be a lot of this especially when I looked further across your case into the mental and emotionals.
I then looked at one of the peculiar symptoms you have - Aggravation from Full Moon. In this rubric there are only 2 Fungi remedies - Bovista (puffball) and Solanum tuberosum aegrotans (a mould that affects potatoes). Bov is Sycotic, Sol-t-ae is Leprous (along with Secale).
I think I will need some more time to research these remedies, and see if any of them suit your specific symptoms.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Thank you.
I have at present added 2ml of myrrh tincture 3 x per day and that seems to be helping.
According to a Townsend letter I read, there have been several studies in Egypt and elsewhere that shows efficacy on some worms of as much as 91%.
Mine are very tenacious and adaptable, and may take more than just myrrh, but the signs are good so far after just 5 days. They are still there, but I sense they are weakening.
One thing that came out in the letter is that Myrrh is able to reach far deeper in the body than just the gut, and I have found that. There has been obvious feelings of it going to work where the worms are.
I may find adding frankincense in could improve the benefits even better, but I will hang fire on that at the moment and see how the myrrh gets on.
Myrrh and Frankincense are apparently very healing and purifying, no wonder they were so highly valued back in Bible times.....
I have at present added 2ml of myrrh tincture 3 x per day and that seems to be helping.
According to a Townsend letter I read, there have been several studies in Egypt and elsewhere that shows efficacy on some worms of as much as 91%.
Mine are very tenacious and adaptable, and may take more than just myrrh, but the signs are good so far after just 5 days. They are still there, but I sense they are weakening.
One thing that came out in the letter is that Myrrh is able to reach far deeper in the body than just the gut, and I have found that. There has been obvious feelings of it going to work where the worms are.
I may find adding frankincense in could improve the benefits even better, but I will hang fire on that at the moment and see how the myrrh gets on.
Myrrh and Frankincense are apparently very healing and purifying, no wonder they were so highly valued back in Bible times.....
Alijaybee 9 years ago
Alright I have had a long think about this. The remedy I want you to take is Solanum tuberosum aegrotans (Sol-t-ae) 200c. Please obtain it as liquid oral dosing form and take a single dose.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Ok, many thanks. I will try and get hold of that.
I will wait for a couple of weeks before taking it, as my Chinese doctor has given me a tincture to take each night which seems to be helping at the moment. I don't want to get any responses confused.
Any reason why you think 'rotten potato' might help? :0)
I will wait for a couple of weeks before taking it, as my Chinese doctor has given me a tincture to take each night which seems to be helping at the moment. I don't want to get any responses confused.
Any reason why you think 'rotten potato' might help? :0)
Alijaybee 9 years ago
It is quite sensible to wait and see what the result of the herbal treatment is. I would have suggested the same thing.
I looked at both Bovista and Sol-t-ae primarily because they are the only 2 fungi remedies under 'Full Moon aggravates', and it just seemed to be the more suitable of the two. There is more desperateness, a more extreme state. There is destruction and struggle and violence in that remedy, which just isn't found in Bovista. Both have all the fungi themes which I think relate to your case, but the extra aspect of being a parasite is found in Solanum.
Words you used which justify the Leprous miasm are:
Torture
Controlled
Powerless
Toxic
Collapse
They often say about Solanum it is a strange medicine, even bizarre, in the symptoms it produces.
In the materia medica we find:
Chronic intestinal toxaemia
General Restlessness
Formication
Offensive breath, horrible fetid breath
Much concerned about her future destiny which she feels will be wretched
Attention often wanders off on a different train of thought
Difficult digestion, colic, acidity, eructations
Great prostration and despondency
Little disposed to work, wants to lounge about
Feeling of weakness, general weariness, has to lie down
Everything is wearisome to her
Very restless all night
Disturbed sleep, very light sleep
No sleep from pain
I looked at both Bovista and Sol-t-ae primarily because they are the only 2 fungi remedies under 'Full Moon aggravates', and it just seemed to be the more suitable of the two. There is more desperateness, a more extreme state. There is destruction and struggle and violence in that remedy, which just isn't found in Bovista. Both have all the fungi themes which I think relate to your case, but the extra aspect of being a parasite is found in Solanum.
Words you used which justify the Leprous miasm are:
Torture
Controlled
Powerless
Toxic
Collapse
They often say about Solanum it is a strange medicine, even bizarre, in the symptoms it produces.
In the materia medica we find:
Chronic intestinal toxaemia
General Restlessness
Formication
Offensive breath, horrible fetid breath
Much concerned about her future destiny which she feels will be wretched
Attention often wanders off on a different train of thought
Difficult digestion, colic, acidity, eructations
Great prostration and despondency
Little disposed to work, wants to lounge about
Feeling of weakness, general weariness, has to lie down
Everything is wearisome to her
Very restless all night
Disturbed sleep, very light sleep
No sleep from pain
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
That is interesting, and very descriptive of my demeanour.
I think the Chinese doctor is close to throwing in the towel, and the tincture is a bit of a last resort.
He complains that my body seems to overriding his medication, but he doesn't seem to understand it isn't my body, but the worms that are doing the overriding.
They are incredibly tenacious. They have been there a long time and have set up their own little eco system. They aren't going to give up without a fight!
They are creatures who have just as much right to life as me, but I just wish they would go somewhere else. If they were just in my gut, they probably would have left by now, but because they are around my body, it isn't so easy for them to get out.
I do feel that the tincture is doing something. Whether it is dealing with them, or whether it is making my body strong enough to deal with them itself, I'm not sure, but only time will tell on that.
I think the Chinese doctor is close to throwing in the towel, and the tincture is a bit of a last resort.
He complains that my body seems to overriding his medication, but he doesn't seem to understand it isn't my body, but the worms that are doing the overriding.
They are incredibly tenacious. They have been there a long time and have set up their own little eco system. They aren't going to give up without a fight!
They are creatures who have just as much right to life as me, but I just wish they would go somewhere else. If they were just in my gut, they probably would have left by now, but because they are around my body, it isn't so easy for them to get out.
I do feel that the tincture is doing something. Whether it is dealing with them, or whether it is making my body strong enough to deal with them itself, I'm not sure, but only time will tell on that.
Alijaybee 9 years ago
Well I am hopeful the shift to the Fungi group of medicines will change that. They are suited to any condition where the disease (be it worms or anything) have invaded the patient, burrowed in and spread to take over.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Hi. I have ordered the Sol-t-ae and it is on its way.
Do I take it the same way as the Alumina?
I'm not sure what, if anything changed with the tincture. The worms went very quiet for a few days but then picked up again.
That often happens if I change anything. It's like they go quiet whilst they work out what is going on, then 'regroup' and come back with a vengeance. If I take anything that makes them feel even remotely threatened, they just have yet another hatching episode.
They are like the proverbial monster that won't die! It is ridiculous. I cannot see how these relatively tiny creatures can be so powerful and essentially stronger than my body's ability to deal with them! Their strength must lie in their numbers.
I am considerably overweight - it won't shift regardless of what I do, but then despite the weight, due to the fact that these things are constantly robbing my nutrition, my poor body probably thinks it is starving and won't let go of what it has.
Obesity is a symptom of malnutrition.
Do I take it the same way as the Alumina?
I'm not sure what, if anything changed with the tincture. The worms went very quiet for a few days but then picked up again.
That often happens if I change anything. It's like they go quiet whilst they work out what is going on, then 'regroup' and come back with a vengeance. If I take anything that makes them feel even remotely threatened, they just have yet another hatching episode.
They are like the proverbial monster that won't die! It is ridiculous. I cannot see how these relatively tiny creatures can be so powerful and essentially stronger than my body's ability to deal with them! Their strength must lie in their numbers.
I am considerably overweight - it won't shift regardless of what I do, but then despite the weight, due to the fact that these things are constantly robbing my nutrition, my poor body probably thinks it is starving and won't let go of what it has.
Obesity is a symptom of malnutrition.
Alijaybee 9 years ago
Alijaybee 9 years ago
I took one dose last night as instructed for the arsenicum.
The worms went fairly quiet last night although there still was some movement. There has been a bit of movement today, mainly in my back.
Should I wait for a few days again, or can I continue with another three doses taken from today until Saturday?
If this doesn't work, should I consider Cina, Calcarea, Nat Mur, etc., that seem to be common remedies for worms?
I have done extensive searches on the web, but so many of the Homeopathic treatments seem to be aimed at children rather than adults.
I found a reference interesting about Nat Mur and I think Calc Phos being used to lower lactic acid in the body as that can attract worms. I do love dairy. I gave it up for 3 years when on a very low carb, high fat healing diet, but although there was some healing I never regained energy, or got rid of the worms, so I gave up.
I am considering going vegan, gluten and dairy free for a while to try and cleanse my body, but because the worms consume so much if my nutrition, I am worried whether I will get enough nutrition from it.
The worms went fairly quiet last night although there still was some movement. There has been a bit of movement today, mainly in my back.
Should I wait for a few days again, or can I continue with another three doses taken from today until Saturday?
If this doesn't work, should I consider Cina, Calcarea, Nat Mur, etc., that seem to be common remedies for worms?
I have done extensive searches on the web, but so many of the Homeopathic treatments seem to be aimed at children rather than adults.
I found a reference interesting about Nat Mur and I think Calc Phos being used to lower lactic acid in the body as that can attract worms. I do love dairy. I gave it up for 3 years when on a very low carb, high fat healing diet, but although there was some healing I never regained energy, or got rid of the worms, so I gave up.
I am considering going vegan, gluten and dairy free for a while to try and cleanse my body, but because the worms consume so much if my nutrition, I am worried whether I will get enough nutrition from it.
Alijaybee 9 years ago
I wouldn't use 'worm' remedies as such. I think your case is unusual enough to warrant using the actual symptoms for prescribing (which is true homoeopathy). Using a remedy based on the name of your condition isn't usually very successful.
200c is a high potency. It will continue to work for several weeks after the dose. I would not expect to see stable improvement for 1-2 weeks, so it is important to watch and wait and this stage.
200c is a high potency. It will continue to work for several weeks after the dose. I would not expect to see stable improvement for 1-2 weeks, so it is important to watch and wait and this stage.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
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