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2 weeks old baby....with frequest spit up milk

hi
my baby girl is 2 weeks old. she was born normal and at full term. since the day she is born, she has started spitting up milk ( extensively on breast milk).
As the time passes, her spitting up increases. went to the doctor. and according to Dr. suggestions, started giving her smaller & frequent feed. KeEpping her upright after every feed. Also giving her burp in between the feed and after feed. But all these measures are not effective. her condition is getting worse.

she is very cranky. make curve of her spine while feeding. and it's difficult for her to feed properly. she has started loosing appetite. extremely gassy after the feed or during the feed. may be she cried a lot while feeding and engulf air. hiccups very very frequent. not able to lay down supine. spitting up after every feed. even if she has breast fed for a minute or so. some times, she spits very large amount that is currdy. or some times the whole amount of plain milk. her sleep is also very much disturbed. wakes up after 20-30 min.
m very upset need help as soon as possible.

thanks.
A worried mummy
[message edited by navedsha on Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:50:08 UTC]
 
  navedsha on 2017-03-07
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Give her 2 pills of AETHUSA CYN.30c in the morning before her first feed & 2 pills in the night when putting her to bed. for three days & watch the improvement.
I am sure you must not be giving her drinking water. If so please start giving some water in between the feeds. The water should be filtered & boiled at least for 5 minutes & then feed it after cooling down. In case if she refuses add a little sugar to it.Her Hiccups & gas will also improve.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
thanks for reply. I will give that med.to my baby n will get back to you.

I want to know One more thing. You said to give water to baby. I assumed that water is not necessary as she is on breastfeeding. second, she is very young. third, we live in North Europe.and it's extremely cold here. do u think she still needs water?if so then why? want to know reason.
 
navedsha 7 years ago
does this med. relieve gas. as well?
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Yes I understand your problem. But let me ask you when you are thirsty does any of other liquid satisfy your thirst other than water?
These days all docs insist for giving no water at all but when the little one go thirsty don't you think it would bring comfort to it.
I do not know what others feel about it but in my opinion the age old tradition of giving water is equally important today also and at times I refuse to give treatment when patient insist on not giving water to kids.
This way we are not only taking the risk of dehydration but also the little one become uncomfortable due to thirst. If you ask the elders at your home I am sure they will say that they made you also to drink water when you were little one.
Anyway, the choice is yours.
Yes this med will work for gas as well.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
it sounds wise. yes my mother told me, she gave me water when I was at this age.

I started giving her water in between the feed. a teaspoon after every feed.

I have ordered aethusia med. as it is not available in my country. so I hv to order it online. may be I will get it until Monday.


my daughter was spitting up milk before ....like spilling from mouth. but now for last two days she is having forceful vomiting episodes after every feed along with spilling or regurgitation of milk.
 
navedsha 7 years ago
aethusa is not available in pills form. can we use liquid instead of pills?
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Yes certainly. Just one drop in a table spoon of water. But use glass or plastic spoon no metal at all.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
hi doc

i gave my daughter aethusa cyn 30 c as u said. here are her symptoms now.


she has started vomiting out plain milk as well. Before this medicine, she was vomiting out crudled milk.

her appetite is much reduced. she only breast feed for 3-5 minutes. and sleeps a lot. her urine out put has reduced from 6-8 wet diapers to 3-4wet diapers.

she draws her legs up more often. it seems she has pain in her tummy. she was having 3-4 poops a day. but now its only 1-2....although poops are normal consistancy but she exerts much pressure to defecate.

she is extreamly gasy as soon as few drops of milk get inside. I wonder, if i am feeding her air instead of milk. After that she want to latch but unable, due to pain and bloating.
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navedsha 7 years ago
waiting for reply
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Give me a day's time. I am away from my place.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
ok....i will wait.....when ur child is not well.its hard for parents to see their child in such a misery.
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Give her two pills SEPIA 30c once daily for three days.
Do not over feed . Give frequent but reduced period of feeding for a few days.Report after a week.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
when i was waiting for your reply. i noticed few more things. her sucking power is not strong as it was before. but thought its just my thinking. Here in my country, there are lactatin centers. today i went there n two other breast feeding moms gave their breast to her n they also said she has poor sucking power. then i went to dr who examined her mouth n tounge n found every thing normal. my basic concern to be there was, i am having less milk supply. It was good untill last week. They said because her appitite is much reduced and that is the cause of lower milk production. i do not want to start formula. is there any medicine to increase milk production.(i have started pumping out brest milk to increase milk production).
 
navedsha 7 years ago
I feel you are mixing up the issues. Once the stomach of your kid sets well everything will be well.

I still suggest to give Sepia to the kid & start giving small but frequent feeds.
 
daktersaab 7 years ago
i gave her sepia . today was the third day. will update u after 4 days
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Hi

it has been 7 days from the strt of sepia. here is update.

vomiting or spitt up much reduced. she is still vomiting out but now its once or twice a day.

she is somedays passes poops 3-4 times and some days only once a day. poops are painful for her. she exerts much force and her face becomes blue. poops are very soft.

she is very much gassy. she becomes blue and cried a lot when passes gas.

she has acne like red rash with some papules all over the face. chest forearms outer side of thighs and legs. this kind of rash is increasing day by day.

at niğht around 8 to 10 pm, she has colic pain and cried non stop. massage and warm pad on tummy gives her a bit relief. she becomes hungry at that time and want to feed but it is very painful due to colic.
 
navedsha 7 years ago
nux vom 200 1dose or 3pills at night before bed time will relieve everything..

if its severe pain..at that time,magnesium phos 6x 4tabs dissolved hot water will give immediate relief


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[message edited by drthoufeequebhms on Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:48:59 UTC]
 
drthoufeequebhms 7 years ago
thanks for reply....
for how long can i give her nux vomica?
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Just give 1dose(3pills) at night...before going to bed..
No repition.wait for 1week.
.in case if the pain is more after nux in between, give her mag phos 6x
 
drthoufeequebhms 7 years ago
thanks
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Ok..report changes here.


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drthoufeequebhms 7 years ago
hi doc

i gave my daughter nux vomica 1 dose.she has started to be better after 3rd day of giving nux vomica(only one dose given).

she is having stomach pain (colic) in evening hours so i do massage, warm compress and sometimes give mag phos 6x.

vomiting had been much reduced.


but now for last 5 days she is vomiting again . even if she nurse for two minutes she vomit it out straight away. then feel hunger and cries and nurse one yo two sips n vomit it out.

bowl movements vary some days she has a bowl movemwnt only once a day and some days 3-4times a day. their consistency is normal n yellow colored.

she is exclusivly breastfed. after every 1.5 hours in day and every 3rd hour night. she nurse 5 -6 minutes total in one nursing session.

for last 10 to 12 days she has cold. no fever. runny nose is much better. but when she vomits it sometimes has very little phlem light green color. no coughing. but she nurse i can heard mucous rattling in her throat. once or twice a day i also give her steam. but does hv very little effect. that is only in term of not hearing that rattling voice for sometime. but not at all on vomiting.

my daughter is 7 weeks now n i gave her nux vomica dose 16 days before.
[message edited by navedsha on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 09:36:12 UTC]
 
navedsha 7 years ago
I told you to report after a week..
Ok

Please tell me changes in the percentage ...
 
drthoufeequebhms 7 years ago
what in %?

if u say amount of vomit then .....

because i am breastfeeding so cant tell hiw much actuall she has taken. but if we assume 120 ml at each feed as other 7 months babies r taking at each feed. then she vomits almost 50 to 60 percent at each vomit.


and as we are constantly weighing her at child clinic. two weeks before she gained 52 % weight. last week its percentage drops down to 40% weight gain in a week.

doctors here said..breastfed baby should gain 150 to 220 grams a week. last week she gained only 95 grams. her next check up is on tuesday. but i can easily guess that it would be much less as she is not wetting her diapers as she was before.

Recomended wet diapers are 4 to 6 and a dirty diaper 2 to 3. and she has only 2 - 3 wet and 1 dirty diaper a day.
[message edited by navedsha on Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:18:07 UTC]
 
navedsha 7 years ago
Repeat next dose of nux vomica 200 at night before bed.

Also give natrum phos 6x 2 tablets 3 times daily
And. Kali mur 6x 2 tabs 3 times daily
Give a gap of 1hour between these two remedies.


For abdominal pain mag phos 6x as already suggested..not daily.

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drthoufeequebhms 7 years ago

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