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Mr Varma, Mr Livera... Page 2 of 2

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http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/81071/4


Hopefully this is now an end to the situation.

Best wishes to all.


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Dear Hahnemania

You are making a huge effort to prove something but excatly what?

After a long journey one find that his luggage is missing.

In your case opposite has happened. Luggage has arrived but person is missing.
 
kuldeep last decade
A funny thing about nesha, why she visits only to spats?
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep, I am making no huge effort, I am merely finishing what someone else started, rather than fuelling the fire, you know, with comments like 'this is entertainment'? Maybe, if you are that intertested, you would do well to read from the start of all this, or I can assist you further if you are still having problems understanding the nature of this argument?

Oh, and p.s I never really was one for the whole Indian 'try to finish every post with something profound so as to appear 'enlightened'' approach, as in my experience such things are rarely 'profound' at all, the above being no exception, but whatever you feel is working I guess.

Best wishes.


-Jacob.


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Dear Hahnemania

Of-course a debate is always entertaining if you are a third party.

Let me know if it is not true.
 
kuldeep last decade
It depends on the nature of the debate. As I said, I don't really enjoy it, or enjoy watching it when it's of the nature it has been here. Philosophical or scientific debate, nothing I enjoy more, but not when it's just personal argument and mudslinging, so no, not true for me I'm afraid.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Life is easy if you don't take things personally but become a third party.

To me life is always my nextdoor neighbour Peter's story.
 
kuldeep last decade
Well I've never been much of a 'third party' person, I've always found myself on the stage rather than in the wings, but generally, in terms of not getting involved in such things as the above, I will avoid doing so wherever possible, and I agree, totally, but what if your 'next door neighbour peter' starts dumping his personal trash in your driveway...what do YOU do then?
 
Hahnemania last decade
Reg. :Peter ..next door.

It depends which country you live in.

If in North America...you will call the police.

In Asia ...you would prefer to do an amicable settlement with your neighbour yourself....because...calling the police might turn out to be 'expensive'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Haha...okay!

Actually the question was for Kuldeep, and of course was an analogy, but sure thing.

I do agree though, amicable is always best, except where the other person simply refuses to play by the rules and is insistent in 'getting in your way' as it where, in which case I would tend to go for the good old Texan approach, and just run the son of a bitch down, using this analogically speaking of course ;)
 
Hahnemania last decade
Yes in India, who will then get rid of Police.

In West, yes Police would enforce law but then who would get rid of hate.

And other person thinks the other is amicable.

And I as a third party laught.
 
kuldeep last decade
That is why school children are killing school children with guns in America ....and adults are refusing to take responsibility of it!!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Kuldeep, hmm, okay, although hate doesn't really enter into it, as it is not a natural human emotion, we are talking about anger, which only turns into hate if it is not properley expressed. We are also of course not talking about idealogical situations, but the real world.

Let's further the analogy though, for the sake of discussion. If this 'neighbour' was 'continually dumping their personal trash in your driveway', but in addition was also continually shouting and screaming hysterically in your face (much to your suprise), or attempting to discredit your good name, or all manner of other things to desperately try to get your attention or to TRY to intefere with your chosen 'path'...you would just laugh at them? I think not, and such an action would make most rational people question your own sanity for doing so, not to mention the seriousness with which you view your own life and purpose.

Survival instinct Mr Kuldeep, is very much NOT the same thing as hate, I guess at the end of the day, it depends on how seriously we view our own lives...


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Oh, and yes, there is a VERY good reason why children are killing their classmates with guns etc in (not just) America, but it is not the parents, as they are merely burdened with the same cause, the same 'reason' ;)
 
Hahnemania last decade
My very last word on the subject for which this post was intended.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/81071/4
 
Hahnemania last decade
It all depends upon the definition of trash and driveway.

Layers of imagination.
 
kuldeep last decade
Heh...never mind then, I don't think we're batting in quite the same ballpark.
Regards anyway, and 10/10 for trying.

-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
You guys (Classical Homeopaths) still want to cross the ocean (from London to New York) in the aeroplane made by the Wright Brothers out of bicycle parts.

Much progress has taken place in Aeronautics after the Wright Brothers first flew their aero-model.

So also in Homeopathy...much more progress has been made after Dr. Hanhemann propounded his initial Hypothesis.

Also Homeopathy is called an 'ART'...not a Science. So that you can try and master different strokes.

Science is precise....Art is not....different strokes give different results ....sometimes more than expected.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Homoeopathy isn't a 'cut and slice' system of medicine, you cannot simply choose a tiny segment of it's doctrine to give credence to your own odd methods of prescribing, or support a 'part-time interest', it is a complete system, and makes sense as such only to those who have both studied the subject, and more importantly, those who are able to understand.

Those who merely shun the true, classical way, do so for two reasons, they either know nothing about the subject at all, or they simply lack the ability to understand it, and therefore place the blame on this true, classical way, for their own shortcomings.

As stated before, a bad workman will always blame his tools, and I don't think I can really add anything further to this debate, either here or on any other thread, Classical Homoeopathy is a lot like life...you either get it...or you don't ;)

Best wishes.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Pankaj, I apologize for misreading what you wrote and responding to that, but still think its a bit mean. From glimpses I have had of your threads you seemed to a decent and spiritual-type of person, while your interaction with Jacob reeks of anything but - I hope it is just an aberration and that you will both let this matter die and not allow vested interests to fan the flames further.
 
ripas last decade
Hello Ripas,
I have been only opposing view points...not individuals.
There is a difference.
If fact I was quite patient intially...until the 'water went above the head'.

Here is Jacob telling everyone that a bad worker blames the tools...and his snide is directed at me!

At the same time he is himself blaming Boericke MM.
See thread of Deepak80.

(I am compelled to say in reply that..... a bad homeopath blames the MM).

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hello again Ripas,

No need for an apology...we are 'playing on the same side of the tennis court'...trying to help people.

best wishes,
Panka jVarma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
The intention of all of us is to help people.

We can help a fellow who is going to consume poision unknowingly, by making him understand that what he has in hand is a poision.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Okay, I'm just plain bored with this now.

Mr Varma, it was YOU who began with the personal diatribe, AND the snide comments as soon as I arrived here, and from what I hear, you engage in pretty much the same with most other 'newcomers'.
You have, from the word go applied your own interpretation to my words an used them in an attempt to manipulate and co-erse others into believing your warped imaginings, and I simply have no time for you anymore.

Your powers of self-observation/awareness, and sense of honesty are obviously as limited as your knowledge of Homoeopathy, and to be perfectly honest I don't even know why I've bothered to argue with you for so long, as you have no training, no understanding of the subject, and seem to only be here for your own personal sense of empowerment, and to engage in childish argument.

If I were you I would go back to selling paperclips or whatever it is you travelling salespeople do, as you clearly do not have either the sense of reality or common decency required to be a Homoeopath, and leave the Homoeopathy to those of us who are actually Homoeopaths.

I have nothing further to say to you, you are a laughable jackass, no more, no less.

Have a nice day.


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Dear Pankaj

You have a huge ego problem,and have reached a stage of not able to tolerate any discussion which is contrary to your views.

You accused me of preaching from a high pedestal, and accused me of inadquacy and lack of confidence in prescribing etc..

You never discuss on the points rised and try to get away saying that it is an 'art'.

Enough is enough. ABC is not owned by you.It is a open forum, and all the issues are to be discussed on merits.

Complaining to moderator is nothing but childish.

If people like Jacob and me are spending time on this forum,the purpose is not to attack one individual.We have far higher thoughts in our mind, and the prime one is to make patients aware of psuedo homeopathy.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Well said Murthy, and very diplomatically put.
I have tried this approach myself, but have come to realise this to be something which is wasted on certain indivduals here, and I simply have no more tolerance for them.

Thanks for the support.


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade

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