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Pankaj, if I might ask - what response do you expect from employees of the company apart from how effective their combinations are?
I think combinations MIGHT have their uses in certain acute cases where a person does not or cannot see a homeopath and does not have the patience or the time to ride out the problem. For one, they feel like they're taking something - which might help them feel better. For another, since the use is not prolonged, likely that little harm is done. A third factor is that the combination might even be of some therapeutic value, whether homeopathic or not - I say might because I have no idea whether it is so or not.
Murthy, I suggest you continue your vigil and your comments but ignore anyone who is only trying to provoke you so that you are either banned or get fed up and leave so that they can rule the roost again. You are being made to look like the provoker while the other party says what he wants and - if reprimanded, comes up with a meaningless apology/ acceptance. So please conserve your energy for where its needed. And know that at least some people understand your purpose and support you. Good luck.
 
ripas last decade
Another point. What is 'evolved' about mixing homeopathic remedies or prescribing them as you please? If it is homeopathy you are practicing, then you have to go by principles of homeopathy - and I don't have to tell you what they are. To use homeopathic remedies any which way you please and then call it homeopathy is not truthful.
 
ripas last decade
Hey ripas, nice way to express absolute disagreement, Man.

How are you? By the way.
 
kuldeep last decade
The important thing is...are you promoting homeopathy or are you promoting good health.

I am promoting good health and homeopathy is just one component of it out of the many.

I can suggest Cell Salts, Combiantion meds, Herbs, Ayurveda, Reiki, Pranayams, Yoga ...what ever will restore the patient back to good health.

If you are restricting yourself to homeopathy...that too only classical form of homeopathy.....sorry, your problem.

Where the single homeopathic remedy is the answer...I use that as many have seen it here for last 3 years.

But that is not the end of my quest.

There is no need for any one to become a 'policeman' here.
We have a competent Moderator.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
We are all open to advancements, discoveries, research, scientific analysis, new provings . The discovery of homeopathy itself is an evidence of advancement in medical sciences, since Dr. Hahnemann, didn't follow the dictums blindly .The new principle of 'similiar cures similiar' emerged, as a new therapy.

Are all these combination medicines, being prescribed on this principle,of similiar, after proper provings, then no one has any objection to lable these as homeopatic medicines.

Many of the allopathic medicines also provide relief , but we don't claim those as homeopathic medicine !
 
sbahl last decade
Ripas,
Reckeweg is also one of the largest manufacturer and distributor of Single homeopathic meds around the world.

So which ever way this argument goes ...they are still gainers.

If you know Dr. Reckeweg's background... you would not say that. He was equally a man with a mission..just like Dr. Samuel Hahnemann.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dr. Hans Heinrich Reckeweg, M.D.
The Father of Homotoxicology
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This article will be about the history of Heel’s founder, and a description of three of the most unique old and new treatment modalities that make this form of treatment so rewarding, for both doctor and patient. The results are swift, comfortable and affordable.

Dr. Reckeweg was a German Medical Doctor who understood the tenets of Homeopathy. He broke with the tradition established by Dr. Samuel Hahnemann, M.D., who postulated that only one remedy should be used at a time. Dr. Reckeweg postulated that if there were ten remedies that did the same thing, then it would be prudent to add all ten to one formula, and let the patient’s system choose the one that it wanted. He also further developed the concept of the Homaccorde. Considering that potencies need to become more and more dilute, he would add multiple potencies of the same remedies, and let the patient’s system choose not only which remedy it wanted, but which potency of the remedy it wanted.

He developed a whole line of these combination remedies, covering all phases of medical problems, and declared his new field of medicine Homotoxicology. This was seen as a “bridge” between allopathic medicine and homeopathic medicine, as the remedies were used for Allopathic diagnostic indications, but treated them with these homeopathically prepared mixtures. In the close to 40 years that Dr. Reckeweg did his work in Germany, he developed approximately two thousand of these combinations. In the early 1970s, he sold 50% of his worldwide company to the Delton Group, a huge multi-conglomerate that owns many other businesses, including a majority interest in the BMW car company.

Dr. Reckeweg took his money and ostensibly headed to the United States to retire. He landed in new York and bought a Winnebago. He started a nine-month trek around the USA, ultimately arriving in New Mexico at what must have been an enchanting time of the Year. He fell in love with everything about “The Land of Enchantment”, and bought big parcels of land in and around Albuquerque and put down roots as a settler. After about 6 months of idleness, the enchantment turned to introspection and he again started dreaming up new combination formulas. It was during this time period that he founded a new company that he named BHI. It was under BHI that he developed a new line of innovative combination formulas that he actually named for illness itself (ex: Allergy, Ear, Inflammation, Bone, Headache, etc.). He made them in a way that they would be saleable over the counter. After a ten year period of success, The Delton people came to town and were so impressed that they bought the remaining 50% of the company. This transaction took place in 2001. The entire company is now known as Heel Inc.

The most famous Heel remedy is known as TRAUMEEL*. It contains 13 different Homeopathic remedies at single potencies, and is either the top selling Homeopathic remedy in the entire world, or one of the top sellers. It is indicated for many of the causes of Traumatic conditions, including major injury and acute inflammatory conditions such as Acute Otitis Media. It comes as a cream, a tablet, an oral liquid, an injectable liquid and eardrops. Many reputable studies have been done and published on Traumeel, including efficacy in injury conditions such as ankle sprains, up to the relief of stomatitis caused by chemotherapy in cancer patients.

Traumeel is actually listed in the Physicians Desk Reference (PDR), and if an ampoule of it were only added to every IV started in an Emergency Room or an Operating room, morbidity and even mortality would be reduced by a significant percentage. The study on stay days and recovery times is a study waiting to occur, and it is your author’s opinion that the only unknown is how high the percentage of improvement that would be shown. There are many success stories using Homotoxicology, and they are all quite frankly related to the great genius of Dr. Hans Heinrich Reckeweg, M.D.

At the annual medical week conference given in late October by Heel in Baden Baden, an approximate $15,000 Reckeweg prize for innovations in Homotoxicology is granted annually to the Physician making the biggest innovative discovery.

Two years ago that prize was given to a German internist or making the discovery that Euphorbium Nasal Spray is actually Viracidal. This was proven by Viral cultures showing that the spray does more than unclog nasal passages; it kills the virus that causes the passages to be clogged. It can also be used on Herpes Simplex lesions as well as Shingles Herpes Zoster Lesions. Spraying the nose spray on the blisters reduces pain almost immediately, and reduces healing times to one-third of that expected.

This past year The Reckeweg was granted to another physician that found that Diabetics with peripheral Neuropathy could be treated successfully wit Oral Lymphomyosot drops, along with Intravenous Alpha Lipoic Acid.

Your author (DR. Bruce H. Shelton, M.D.) has successfully treated Type Two Diabetics with the combination of Syzigium Compositum, Aesculus Compositum and Galium Compositum, simply added to patients’ drinking water. Blood sugar levels have dropped dramatically as well as marked reduction in needs for regular medication. We have even treated a young Type One Diabetic’s need for Insulin (from 40 units a day to 10) with the addition of Pankreas Suis Injeel (not available commercially in the USA) to the patient’s regimen.
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*About 'Trumeel'...on another thread (Forum) some body has given his positive experience.


Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear friends,

Since Pankaj has admitted that he is not limited to homeopathy alone, there is no case for further arguments with him.He seeks health from a number of alternative health systems of which homeopathy just happens to be one.So, his advice is coming from that perspective.Now it is for the patients to decide whether they are coming to 'abchomeopathyforum' for purely homeopathic solutions to their health problems or are open to solutions from a number of alternative healing systems.In the latter case, experts such as Pankaj are a valuable resource.In the former case, they can choose to disregard such experts and listen to homeopathic advices alone.

Combination remedies are indeed very popular and whether they palliate or cure or suppress symptoms is besides the point, because consumer is the king and he is free to choose which way to go for his health problems.This is the laissez faire democracy at its very best and i don't see why anyone should have any objection to it.

For the people who have lost hope from other alternative methods including combination remedies, there are other experts available on this forum who can give a more pure and 'classical' advice.Either way, it is a win-win situation for the patients.

There are people like Dr.Beek posting here.What he says seems to be correct to many people but he is not a homeopathic practitioner.But if people were to pay heed to his wisdom, then most of the problems of this world would be solved.

But i would just end by posting my opinion of combination remedies.They are good for acute situations like the allopathic remedies are.But they palliate or suppress or get rid of the surface symptoms.They don't get rid of the cause.But then, it is the patient's choice as to what he wants.

My two pennies to this debate.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Although now extensively renowned, the Dr. Reckeweg Company traces its origins back to humble beginnings, as a family operated business. At the turn of the century, --------Dr. Heinrich Reckeweg (1877-1944) ------------ a native of Herford, Westphalia, Germany - founded 'Laboratorium EUPHA'. Using his experience and knowledge of homeopathic medicine, the first complex agents, based on Hahnemann's principle of similars, were developed. In 1947, Dr. Alfred Reckeweg, homeopath, and his brother, Dr. Klaus-Günther Reckeweg, both direct descendants of Dr. Heinrich Reckeweg, re-established the company under a new name: The Pharmazeutische Fabrik Dr. Reckeweg & Co. GmbH.

The rebirth of the company brought with it a mandate for the preservation of internationally accepted standards of high quality. Presently directed by Dr. Klaus-Günther's son, Michäel Reckeweg, the company scrupulously abides by the heritage and praxis of Dr. Heinrich Reckeweg. Tradition and custom are maintained despite state-of-the-art facilities, manufacturing techniques and methods of organizational management. As the founder of 'Laboratorium EUPHA', Dr. Heinrich Reckeweg was personally committed to the manufacturing of safe and effective remedies.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
'There have to be all kinds to make the world'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Please be advised...people who introduced Combination Meds are Qualified Homeopaths....they were/are well aware (more than many of us here...including gavini) about the theories of 'Proving' and 'Supression'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
RESEARCH
FOR THE SERVICE OF HOMEOPATHY
This success is primarily attributed to the product formulae, which originated and were clinically tested in the course of Dr. Heinrich Reckeweg's own research. Achieving this high calibre would have been inconceivable without the most modern production equipment, validated apparatus and production procedures, a stringent quality control system, as well as a highly qualified staff of scientific and technical specialists. Dr. Reckeweg & Co. is an active member of the Federal Association of the Pharmaceutical Industry, with company specialists participating in the Association's committees.

Recently, and quite prominently, there has been an immense investment in areas of research and development within the scope of homeopathic pharmaceuticals. Strides in the analytical sphere include the compilation of product monographs, which have been prepared in collaboration with the German Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia, upon the German Federal Health Ministry's request.

In the past, homeopathy has been a science based primarily on purely empirical data and treatment protocol. Some years ago, in an effort to dispel inconsistency and misbelief between the positive results of homeopathic therapy obtained by countless practitioners and the opposing view of the conventional scientific community, Dr. Reckeweg & Co. established a fundamental research department. The prime objective of this department was to foster the growth, development and scientific validation of homeopathy through experimentation utilizing modern research methodology. Clinical trials of existing preparations are rigorously carried out, in order to extend the current body of knowledge. Standardized statistical procedures and electronic data processing (EDP) assessment have facilitated this process. In accordance with the objective of increasing international scientific awareness regarding the therapeutic action and efficacy of homeopathically prepared substances, extensive research - unrelated to specific products - has also been undertaken. Through the application of standard homeopathic theoretical models, research at Dr. Reckeweg & Co. is directly applicable to other research conducted on national and international levels.

The results of such exhaustive research have been published in DSR (Department of Scientific Research) reports. Edited to some extent, to make them more comprehensible, these specialized journals are made available to the practitioner and have appeared periodically for some time. Symposiums are organized at regular intervals to allow professionals to keep abreast of the latest research findings in homeopathy.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
The choice of homeopathic practitioner determines the extent of health benefits any body likely to experience when using homeopathic remedies.

Any one may be thrilled to discover that Arnica can heal the bruises in less than 4 hours but may not appreciate Arnica’s ability to help recover from a concussion or stroke, more.

The most important component of professional homeopathic treatment begins with the use of ONE Homeopathic Remedy made from ONE substance (not a group of substances/remedies). Homeopathic text books describe the symptoms assoicated with ONE substance/remedy based on human trials of this remedy, therefore using a combination of many remedies can make it difficult to evaluate the success of a specific treatment.

Over-the-Counter combination remedies, available in health stores and pharmacies, may be ok for consumers to self-treat minor health conditions as there is a good chance that some health benefit will occur.

However, if combination remedies are recommended by your natural health care provider it indicates that your health issues have not been clearly understood or that the provider’s understanding of homeopathic remedies is limited.

Many natural health care providers recommend homeopathic remedies to their patients. Unfortunately, this does not make them a homeopathic practitioner, nor does it mean that you are getting optimum health results from the homeopathic remedies you use.

The difference between First Aid and professional homeopathic treatment will be seen in the type of remedy selected, how often the remedy is taken and the strength (potency) of the remedy. A First Aid understanding of homeopathic remedies will result in a standard treatment plan that uses a very small range of homeopathic remedies and is recommended to nearly every patient.

A professional homeopath knows that there are an infinite number of treatment plans available, uses a wide range of homeopathic medicines and designs a unique treatment plan to ensure to achieve optimum health benefit from homeopathic treatment.
 
sbahl last decade
Combination medicines suppress.Period.

They are worse than allopathy.

Better stick to your Voveran/Brufen than TRAUMEEL*.

I was a chronic sufferer from heel spurs.(confirmed by x-ray), and got cured by classical homeopathy .(again confirmed by x-ray).

I want to listen to somebody who says, I got cured by TRAUMEEL.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
This is what Traumeel contains.

Belladonna 4X 75 mg
Arnica montana radix 3X 40 mg
Aconitum napellus 3X 30 mg
Chamomilla 3X 24 mg
Symphytum officinale 8X 24 mg
Calendula officinalis 2X 15 mg
Hamamelis virginina 2X 15 mg
Millefolium 2X 15 mg
Hepar sulphuris calcareum 8X 15 mg
Mercurius solubilis 8X 15 mg
Hypericum perforatum 3X 8 mg
Bellis perennis 2X 6 mg
Echinacea augustifolia 2X 6 mg
Echinacea purpurea 2X 6 mg

This is what the website itself claims it can do.

'They are useful for the temporary relief of symptoms associated with inflammatory, exudative, and degenerative processes due to acute trauma, repetitive or overuse injuries or arthritic conditions. These can include sprains, bursitis, dislocations, fractures, bruises, post-operative or post-injury swelling, etc., as well as various arthritic conditions. '

Mark the word 'temporary'.

Source: http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com/Monographs/traumeel.html...

And see the ingredients,and their quantities.

All in milligrams.!!

We talk of homeopathy being an energy medicine, the energy being enhanced by repeated dilutions and succussions.

There is not a single molecule of the medicine beyond 6c.(the least potency normally used.)

Is it not allopathy?

same medicines,if used in infitisimally small doses,used singly, become homeopathic medicines.

It is not even allopathy, but, worse tha it, as so many medicines taken together have various drug interactions, and induce a complex disease, if taken continuously.

Please stay away from these dangerous concoctions.

As I said elsewhere, till you find a competent homeopath, stick to yur allopathic medicines, rather than permanently and irreversibly damaging your health.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Gavini...the important thing here is ...that there are different schools of thought.
And they are divergent. The choice has to be left to the reader.

There is no need to be at each others throat !! ....Period !!

This place is not the exclusive domain of one school of thought. ....Period !!

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Here is a post made by a third person on ABC ...about combinations SPECIALLY TRAUMEEL !!!!!!:

Re: Homeopathy prescribed Allopathically - THIS FOR THAT From Alfalfa Q on 2005-08-21
Welldone Nisha !!!

I believe that you have touched a very very important point in a very amusing way. I am personally very confused about this practice of prescribing homeopathy allopathically.

I know some very very renowned and respected homeopaths who prescribe like this and still people flock to their clinics like bees on honey...they must be getting some results???

Also the combination remedies confuse me a lot....some homeopaths say that they can CURE, some say they can only suppress the symptoms temporarily, and some say 'dont even touch combinations' they are useless..........Some combinations are so well known for certain diseases that people swear by their efficacy eg, Gold drops (by madaus) for heart troubles and high BP, and Kalkurenal drops for kidney stones. What do you say?

I read a recent very scientifically done study done in Israel where they gave Traumeel (a combination of arnica, rhustox and about 8 other remedies by Heel pharmaceuticals...a homeopathic antiinflammatory) at accupuncture points to cows who had udder infection (mastitis) and compared them with placebos...and guess what! the cows who got Traumeel had their mastitis much reduced or fully cured!!!
those in the placebo group did not show any response.

It is only this kind of thoroughly sclentific research that can ultimately prove or disprove the utility of combinations as well as other homeo meds prescribed allopathically. What do you say?

I also read another study in which arnica failed to reduce the pain and inflammation in post op patients.

ARE YOU ALSO AGAINST GIVING ARNICA FOR ACUTE INJURIES???

I am very glad that you started this topic. We should not taunt each other . rather we should try to teach and learn in a healthy spirit. Keep it up Nisha.

Good Luck and DO KEEP POSTING.
i would also encourage other experienced homeopaths to write on this very important topic.
ut
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Let people make their own judgements....do not insult their intelligence !!

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Traumeel contains so many things, Most Ayurvedic medicines contain many things. Most chineese medicines contain many things.

They all work.

As a matter of fact, chinees people use their own system for most of their ailments. We see many chineese or oriental people here on this site.

In India, there is only one Chinees medicine medical college at Dharamshala (Himachal). It is run by Tibetian Government in exile. Many lost cases are resolved in that medical college espacially kidney cases.

One must be unbiased to prove a medicine. Set aside the philosophy.
 
kuldeep last decade
Correction*
We don't see many chineese or oriental people here on this site.
 
kuldeep last decade
Definitely,everything is left to the intelligence of readers.

However, most of them may not be aware of the pros and cons.

We are trying to give them our point of view. you are tlling what you feel.

Finally, it is they who have to choose.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Gavini...then why are you saying all this:

'It is not even allopathy, but, worse tha it, as so many medicines taken together have various drug interactions, and induce a complex disease, if taken continuously.

Please stay away from these dangerous concoctions.

As I said elsewhere, till you find a competent homeopath, stick to yur allopathic medicines, rather than permanently and irreversibly damaging your health. '

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You don't have any clinical data on this. You have shown very little of your skills in applied homeopathy. You are not a qualified homeopath...only a hobbyist.

You sound as if you represent the 'Society of Classical Homeopaths'...out to kill the other side.

So many people here on ABC are waiting to receive homeopathic suggestions. See the 'Posts' column against questions....so many have zero replies.

Joe,Dr. Deoshlok, Sajjadakram, Nesha, Kuldeep, me and some others are hardly writing any replies to them after you turned up here. Since you made huge claims of your ability and in turn built a promise in the minds of help seekers, please do it now...they are waiting...find the matching medicine for their symptoms....and follow up the cases.

All this stuff...just reproduce the information...then leave it to the judgement of the readers. Many have tried these meds...let them give their experiences....positive or negative...what ever they may be.

Your own experience is only with single meds...as professed by you yourself so loudly.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
No prescription is better than a wrong prescrption.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
My tendency is always to pick a case from the bottom, when it stayed unattended. Of-course I only reply if I have a definate experience in that matter or if I want to ask further queston to a patient to help me or others to understand the case.

Some people here go to a patient's thread to edit other's decision.

They do not show guts to serve it first or they do not take an initiative to serve the patient.
 
kuldeep last decade
I did take many cases and gave the first prescription.

Just login to my profile and see.

My vigil continues.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Gavini, one should not swim against the flow.
 
kuldeep last decade
For all members to see:

Article on

Homeopathy 3 : COMPLES REMEDIES
by John Morley, with help from Peter Bartlett

Complex Homoeopathy is not a school of Homoeopathy. It is rather an attempt to achieve the necessary clinical efficacy in today's polluted world where the patients are not simple cases that could be covered by a pathogenic study, but a complex net of toxic, functional and sensory symptoms, that often are not related to a disease, but to an interaction of pathological phenomena and iatrogenic syndromes which are very difficult to prescribe for.

One of the main problems experienced by classical homeopaths is the multi-medicated patient, a type so regularly seen in clinics these days. This is the patient who has a history of use of medical drugs or recreational drugs (or both), which complicates the constitutional picture and interferes with the function of the constitutional remedy. It is this type of patient who often responds better initially to the protocols set out in Complex Homoeopathy, and can then progress to the singular remedy once sufficient drainage or detoxification has taken place. This happens often, in that classical homeopathy is facilitated by the initial approach of Complex Homeopathy.

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It is interesting to note that Hahnemann himself began combining remedies in some difficult cases that weren't covered by a single remedy.
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Complex Homoeopathic therapy addresses the patient's particular stress factors rather than her or his constitutional type, and the remedies are combined in a way to cover the highest number of toxic and functional disturbances. The object is to reduce the toxic and other stress burdens and thus free the patient's energies that are tied up in coping with these stress factors. The substances used are pharmaco-dynamically investigated, the best way being to test bio-energetically with the Vega, Bicom or Mora systems, although prescribing without these testing methods can also be very effective. The combinations are low potencies, well below Avogadro's number, and they do not compromise classical high potencies or classical prescribing.

As such, complex homoeopathy is not an antagonist to classical homoeopathy, neither does it treat the same aspects, but acts specifically in diseases to which classical homoeopathy does not respond with efficacy. It is an advanced understanding of the homoeopathic pharmacology, based on insightful and very clever research and observation by Dr Reckeweg and many other German doctors over the last century, with good documentation and statistical verification. However, to understand the action of complex homoeopathy it is necessary to appreciate two main principles regarding remedy combination and the use of low potencies:
1) The first principal is that low potencies act specifically within a structure or function. The time of activity is short and therefore the stimulus has to be repeated frequently.
2) The second regards the fact that low potency remedies do not interact between themselves. Their action is synergistic and each enhances the therapeutic efficacy of the others without any inhibition of their own isolated activity.
For these reasons the use of complex remedies is not incompatible with classical homoeopathic prescribing. They are used in the first instance to relieve the patient of pain and distress from their suffering and to provide immediate help, and this facilitates the classical prescription.
From:
www (dot)wholisticresearch(dot)com/info/artshow.php3?artid=124
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## Please read this.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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