My personal experiences in treating alcoholics. _{Page 3 of 5}

Personal attacks benefit nobody !!

And everyone goes down in the eyes of other members who visit this Forum.

Important thing to note is ...there are other medical sciences which help man in recovering from disease...other than homeopathy. The problem arises when people begin to negate every other form of healing process.

In the name of classical homeopathy they want to supress everything else.

Pankaj Varma

LOOK WHO IS TALKING :

Joe & Mohan has always ridiculed Nesha-India, called her a 'pervert', 'witch', and a hundred other nuisance abuses. Please read his postings on his nuisance against Nesha-India.

Kuldeep always riduculed Nesha-India, called her a 'bitch', 'witch', mentioned my 'buttons', 'kissess', 'smooches' and other hundred nuisance abuses. Please read his postings on his nuisance against Nesha-India.

FOR PROOF OF A PERVERTED MIND :
Please visit this links :
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/87029
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/87375/
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/87446/

AND MANY MORE POSTS MADE BY 'JOE' AND HIS ALLIES.

As far as banning Nesha-India, is concerned, apart from the Moderator, if only 3 others members openly declare it here to support banning Nesha-India, I would voluntarily abandon this forum for ever and will not return back with any other name as kuldeep and others have done with his many aliases.

PLEASE STOP THIS NUISANCE, OF PROXY OWNING THIS FORUM.

IF people do not have the capacity to bear insults and intelligence ... BETTER TO KEEP THE MOUTH SHUT.

Stop twisting words and understand the importance of Homeopathy. Do not fool people with ridiculous prescriptions.

Talk MEDICAL intelligence, do not self-glorify with non-medical nuisance prescriptions,

DO NOT INSULT & ABUSE ANYBODY.

Hi Nisha

I think you mean other than Kuldeep and his various aliases; Mohan, Joe, who are your confirmed baiters.

It is also very easy to login with three fictutious names and ask you to stop posting here.

I know you have been persecuted,for opposing these 'resident presribers' and you are only retaliating.

Same is the case with me.

Don't take any hasty decisions.

If these people stop name calling, and start discussingonly on points, all the issues will be sorted out.

You might have observed that they react violently, and start this name calling exercise, when they are totally cornered, and when there is no way to riggle out.

They won't accept it gracefully, that there are certain things about which they don't know.

People like us are required on this very lenient forum,to expose their bluff.

Murthy

LOOK AT THE LIES ;

Nat.Phos, being used by Millions around the world for Obesity. By whom, by which website, authenticated by which medical council / body.

Arnica, being successfully used by millions around the world for ANY & ALL diseases. By whom,
by which website, authenticated by which medical council / body.


ANOTHER DELIBERATE LIE ;

That 'gavinimurthy' is a dog working for someone else to spoil this ABC website. Who says so. Who supports you. Why lie. Atleast have fear of God. If not, atleast have moral fear. If not that too, have atleast some self-conciousness of truth.

WHEN YOU ABUSE SOMEBODY, what does it show about you.

PLEASE STOP THIS NUISANCE, OF PROXY OWNING THIS FORUM.

LOOK AT THE MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE / CAPACITY ;

When medical intelligence / knowledge is being discussed in a few latest threads with 'PANKAJ VARMA' & 'rajivprasad' & 'gavinimurthy'

- Where were you
- was it beyond your capacity to discuss
- having only Mono-capacity, does not make any medical sense
- it is mis-leading people

LOOK at your posts and the limited hits it generates.
LOOK at the medical-intelligence posts of 'Nesha-India' and manifold hits it generates.

It is better the forum moderator, ban's me, for your benefit ? Please stop this non-medical nuisance.

Kuldeep has used the heading:

'My personal experiences in treating alcoholics.'

I don't know why so many guys and gals cracking and croaking here...against him.

If you have your own experiences ...please start a new thread.... and share your experiences through that.

Pankaj Varma

Nesha-India, has asked a few 'IN CONTEXT' questions to 'Joe' on his Nat.Phos. prescriptions, BUT he could NOT answer it.

Nesha-India, has asked a few 'IN CONTEXT' questions to 'kuldeep' on his Nat.Phos. prescriptions and other posts, BUT he could NOT answer it.

YET keeps on prescribing medicines, without knowing about medicines, risking the patients health.

WHERE is the responsibility. WHERE is the care towards patients diseases.

ON THE CONTRARY, both the above people, indulged in abusing and insulting and name calling. Please read the several posts of the above two people.

Medical suggestions / prescriptions are not sooth-sayers PHILOSOPHICAL babbling, without any medical justification whatsoever.

Kindly understand human anatomy and medical knowledge relating to it, INSTEAD OF 'ABUSING AND INSULTING AND NAME CALLING'.

Nesha-India, has never complained to the Moderator, about the ill-manners and ill-behaviour of the above members. BUT they have repeatedly & falsely complained to the moderator.

ALL MEMBERS to take note of the above, as 'joe' wanted it to be noted.

This is the post I made in the very beginning of the thread.

'Let a few of those 'hundreds' of patients send me a testimonial, with their real addresses.(not web aliases)

Otherwise, it is an empty claim, just for self glorification.

It is impossible to 'cure' real alcoholics, with the concoction you suggest.

The days of people believing everything that is said here,as gospel are gone.

Any advice should stand to scrutiny, and should be defendable logically.

Murthy'

I am yet to get an answer.

This is a discussion forum, and you can't get away with empty claims like 'I have cured hundreds of patients.'

Given your propensity to lie, even in normal discussions, who will believe you?

The credibility of a poster is important.

Who will believe a prescriber who prises his own prescriptions, by creating so many aliases?

Who will believe a prescriber who says that there is no investment in an internet name?

Murthy

What I see is very sad events took place on this series. Also what Mr. Murthy said about Pharmacopeias is baseless. No book contains the exact and strict procedure to make any homeopathy medicines or any one medicine in the world. Homeopathy Pharmacopeias and PDR's contain a list of medicines and are merely the suggestions by authorities to use a certain minimum dilution to protect general public. Manufacturers use their own discretion to manufacture the medicines. Mr. Murthy has dragged this issue on baseless childish way to thwart the efforts of kuldeep to share some knowledge with public. His intentions are clear that if he does not like a person, he would not let that person do anything constructive on this website.


It is apparent that a premeditated, deliberate and malicious attempt is made by Mr. Murthy to fill two very informative threads with his brand of hate propaganda. His intention to solicit in these thread is to devalue and degrade its contents and to make a name for himself.



Murthy, shame on you. If this is a way to gain fame here, you are in a wrong direction.

Re: A study of Rhus toxicodendron (Poison Ivy) From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-09
Lies ,lies and more lies.

This is his first statement.

'No standard pharmacopia is available in the world. If it is please name the publisher.'

Now, he says this.

'I have a copy of this book. This does not say how to make a medicine. This only says about the toxicity and minimum potency to be sold to public without MD's prescription.'

He has a copy of this book, and doesn't know that it contains detailed procedure about making remedies.

Another big Lie..

' loree was looking for a way to make mother tinctures, can't Dr. Luc's associate procure pharmacopia.'

Loree was not looking to make mother tinctures. She wanted a book on mother tinctures,which I have provided.

The biggest lie of all..

' By the way I told her about this websie and pharmacopia and you stole it from me. You never mentioned this site when she asked here.'

Do these guys think that people reading this thread can't make out, what is what?

If he has told Loree about pharmacopia, how come he gave the first statement referred above?

When did he give the reference?

Dear Kuldeep

You are crucified.

Any body who googles 'HUPS' will know that it is a standard book, which deals exclusively with the method of making homeopathic medicines.

The article above referred clearly says that, if the method is not clear, it is not included in the pharmacopia.

You stoop down to any level,for no reason at all.

There is no harm in accepting that you don't know about HPUS.

There is no need to utter so many lies to cover it up.


When will you grow up to be a man?

Murthy

Re: A study of Rhus toxicodendron (Poison Ivy) From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
The HPUS is a cookbook. It tells the pharmacies how to make stuff. If they can't figure out how to make it, then it's not a part of the HPUS. That does not mean that you can't get it (if a pharmacy has it in stock) it just means that it is not an official product. The magnets were dropped simply because the instructions were not clear: Take an amount of milk sugar (how much?) and expose it to a strong magnet (what gauss?) for a period of time (how long?).?

If someone wants to do it the right way by measuring it all, make a new preparation of Magnet, and then do a do a proving, we could get it back in the HPUS. Since Fincke kept careful notes, we still have X-Ray in the book.

Source:http://www.homeoinfo.com/02_history/hpcus/hpus.php

Murthy

Re: A study of Rhus toxicodendron (Poison Ivy) From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
Pharmacopoeia
The name Pharmacopoeia originates from the two greek words: Pharmakon, means a drug ; and poieo, means to make.

Definition: It is a standard book containing a list of drugs and medicines, with information about the sources, habitats,descriptions,collections and identificattions of the drugs ;


and also provides directions for their preparations ,


combining.,compounding and standardisation.It is officially published by authority i.e by the government in charge of medical and welfare department ,any Medical or pharmaceutical Society ,either constituted or authorised by the government; and revised at times.A pharmacopoeia published by such an authority is termed as 'official'.

Source:http://www.hpathy.com/pharmacy/homeopathic-pharmacy1.asp

Murthy

Re: A study of Rhus toxicodendron (Poison Ivy) From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
Access to the HPUS Online Database

The HPCUS currently provides three subscription options:

(Prices are in U.S. Dollars)

1 Day (24 Hours) $29.00 (1 user)


30 Days $99.00 (1 user)


1 Year $500.00 (1 user)

1 Year Corporate $15,000.00 (unlimited number of users)


Click here to register and choose your subscriber level.

Source: http://www.hpus.com/whatsthis.php

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I have to spend just $29 to nail this fellow on his head.

But, I will spend that money for better purposes.

If he persists,I will do it,at my liesure.

Let him keep ****** in his pants.

Murthy

So Murthy,
.....you are saying medicines can only be made the way HUPS cook book suggests.

Doctors have been making medicines even before this book arrived. And these books collected all their information from those doctors....who were making their own homeopathic medicines.

If you just make your point without bashing others, you will gain more respect gavinimurhty.

Besides, many medicines can be made at home too.

In India ..each city has many homeopathic pharmacies. Not so in USA and Canada....where people have to spend days searching for a place to buy the right medicine.....I have been through it so I know it well.

Kuldeep's advice is so valuable there. You don't know its importance or pretend not to know.

You may write anything against it, there are many who are reading his posts very carefully for future use.

Pankaj Varma

Since you rised the issue once again,let me summarise from the beginning.

I said,

'Why take all this trouble.Rhustox is easily available,in all potencies,across the world.

There is a standard pharmacopia, which details how each medicine must be made, and the manufacturers follow it.

Don't take chances.'

What is wrong with it?

Now,see the response

'Gavini Gavini Gavini, wish you said anything intelligent.

No standard pharmacopia is available in the world. If it is please name the publisher.'

I replied and told about HPUS
in a very detailed manner, quoting references.

and then these posts were made.

'Dear Gavini

Fathers of homeopathy did not write this pharmacopia, I have a copy of this book. This does not say how to make a medicine. This only says about the toxicity and minimum potency to be sold to public without MD's prescription. That's all.

loree was looking for a way to make mother tinctures, can't Dr. Luc's associate procure pharmacopia.

By the way I told her about this websie and pharmacopia and you stole it from me. You never mentioned this site when she asked here.

Dear Murthy, it looks like you have never read a pharmacopia. First time you heard this word from me.'


'Monkey sees monkey does.'

I don't know from where this monkey came in between.!!!

In response to that I made the following post.

''The HPUS is a cookbook. It tells the pharmacies how to make stuff.'

Same source as above.

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Lies ,lies and more lies.

This is his first statement.

'No standard pharmacopia is available in the world. If it is please name the publisher.'

Now, he says this.

'I have a copy of this book. This does not say how to make a medicine. This only says about the toxicity and minimum potency to be sold to public without MD's prescription.'

He has a copy of this book, and doesn't know that it contains detailed procedure about making remedies.

Another big Lie..

' loree was looking for a way to make mother tinctures, can't Dr. Luc's associate procure pharmacopia.'

Loree was not looking to make mother tinctures. She wanted a book on mother tinctures,which I have provided.

The biggest lie of all..

' By the way I told her about this websie and pharmacopia and you stole it from me. You never mentioned this site when she asked here.'

Do these guys think that people reading this thread can't make out, what is what?

If he has told Loree about pharmacopia, how come he gave the first statement referred above?

When did he give the reference?

Dear Kuldeep

You are crucified.

Any body who googles 'HUPS' will know that it is a standard book, which deals exclusively with the method of making homeopathic medicines.

The article above referred clearly says that, if the method is not clear, it is not included in the pharmacopia.

You stoop down to any level,for no reason at all.

There is no harm in accepting that you don't know about HPUS.

There is no need to utter so many lies to cover it up.


When will you grow up to be a man? '

and this is the reply to that post.

'Dear Gavini, Tomorrow you were Glad and today you are weeping.

You are behaving like a lady in depression who screems without giving any logic.

Take a dose of Rhus Tox, it is for distress without logic.

When sanity is restored. subscribe the site or purchase the book. one day subscripton is $24.'

Now, observe yourself who is talking illogically.

and this is repeated again in the next post.

'Pharmacopia do not have any procedure to make a medicine.'

and these are the choicest invectives used.

' believe you are working here on someone else's behalf to sabotage this website.

Or an Idiom: Some one else's Dog.'

' Dr Deoshlok Sharma has diagonesd a Virus on this website'

and then the thread degenerated into a slanging match.

Dear Pankaj

Now you come to defend your friend.

I never said that medicines need to be made as per the directions given by HPUS.

The articles referred to, clearly state that there are many medicines available with manufacturers which are not mentioned in HUPS, for example magnet.

What I said was there is no need to make Rhustox at home, when it is available, particulaly when the plant is dangerous to handle.

What is wrong with it?

Why all this unnecessary discussion, about a point which was well made?

Instead of arguing on the point why talk about all the other irrelavant issues?

And do you expect me to keep quiet when people call me all sorts of things?

Please observe, who is starting this every time. I only retaliate in a fitting way.!!

If you and your friends, feel that Kuldeep's advice is valued, I am not stopping you to think so.

People should not start a war, which they can't win.

If they do it again and again, even after getting thoroughly bruised, in their previous attempts,it only shows their lack of maturity.

Murthy

This use of the mushroom is not unknown - it is used in ayurveda, I think, since the powder given makes the drinker vomit after a drink. Also, this was the basis of a book where a lady was murdered by being fed inkcaps after boozing. What is the toxicity factor?
So you have cured hundreds of alcoholics? Very commendable - do let us know more -especially their names and addresses. If privacy is an issue - though I am sure at least some of the hundreds will be willing to testify - I am sorry, that's no evidence.
Murthy, you are repeatedly falling into the trap. Just repeat your questions instead of slinging mud back.
How strange,that Joe is shocked and offended at kuldeep being called gay, but not a murmur at the way he addresses a woman or calling Murthy a dog. I am not defending either Nesha who often crosses limits, nor Murthy (who is provoked into retaliating, which is what the non-homeopaths want, so they can claim that he is disrupting the forum). I say delete all personal references and restrict interaction to homeopathy alone.

Kuldeep' bhayya,

Sir, I have asked you a few questions earlier, which you have not replied yet. I want to ask you more questions, but I can not till you answer my earlier questions.

Since you have so much PERSONAL experience in Alcoholism & Eczema, I feel that you could teach us so many great things, based on your personal experiences.

Also your man-friday is getting too upset about you. Kindly do pacify him, with the cardiac congestion he's started to sinking'ly feel. (Arsenic Alb. is used to pacify old-age persons, who are on the edge).

BTW, how's your L1 disc-vertebra numbing pain, which I activated on 27th October. The next L2 disc-vertebra will be tentatively activated around christmas season. Please do sing the Jingle bell ... Hope it is okay with you.

Those mushrooms in the photographs, Uuummmmm ... looked delicious ... sauteed in a little brandy, specially in conjunction with a patiala peg .... What say ?

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India

I was very interested in kuldeep's response on this thread, which is sadly lacking so far.
Nesha, you truly have a wicked sense of humour - you have given us all here a real belly laugh.
Do be careful about what you say, some recipients of your brand of 'witchery' seem to be ready to burn you at the stake.

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It seems that 'kuldeep', has got 'spooked' with his very personal experiences of Alcoholism and Chronic oozing Eczema. I too am waiting for his educative response. I'm waiting ....
I'm waiting .....
I'm waiting .....
I'm waiting .....
I'm waiting .....

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To Ripas

I have just read your statement where you accuse me of calling Murthy a DOG.

'How strange,that Joe is shocked and offended at kuldeep being called gay, but not a murmur at the way he addresses a woman or calling Murthy a dog. I am not defending either Nesha who often crosses limits, nor Murthy'

As far as I can remember I do not call anyone by that precise epithet and shall thank you to quote the post where I have done so, to enable me to apologize to Murthy if I have so done.

As for calling your erstwhile friend Nisha a WITCH I must admit that I have often done so and as Murthy predicted it is likely that this epithet may be picked up by Google shortly as it has Joepathy.

I have often quoted Cyrus Ching about the PIG in my post to her but they were not derogatory of her but only her attitude to others.