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Potency in wet dose

I have read in this forum about wet dose (the remedy soluted in 500 ml springwater). I wonder will the potency of the remedy change, for example, if the remedy is in 6c?

  troja on 2007-11-02
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Initially it may change slightly, as you are going to mix one drop in a large amount of water and succussing it.

May be the 6c becomes 7c. But, afterwards since only succussion is involved and no further dilution ,the increase in potency will be marginal. May be the 7c will increase progressively in increments of 0.001c. So, after the 10 th water dose, we may be dealing with, say 7.10C.

All the above explanation is not exact in terms of numbers, but to aid your understanding.

In no case it will reach the strength of a 30c, even after months of daily succussion and usage.

gavinimurthy last decade
Thanks! I am so curious, why is it more effective then the dry dose?
troja last decade
The wet dose touches more nerves and hence acts more quickly.

The potency can be rised with each dose though slighly and that is beneficial to the patient.

There are instances where the dry dose is more useful, but for chronic cases the wet dose is the best.

One example of the dry doses being more useful is in sports injuries wher you can first give 30c, rise to 200c later and finally to 1M rather quickly.

gavinimurthy last decade
Mr. Murthy,
If I understand right, there is no specific reason to use a 500ml bottle. A 250ml bottle should also work using this method, since the wet dose is effectively helping the remedy penetrate more evenly.Besides the fact, ofcourse, that 500ml will last longer.
aske123 last decade
The size of the bottle matters in the sense that a 500 ml. bottle means more dilution and hence more penetrating power.

You are right that it lasts long too. :-)

Perhaps it is easily available. Just buy a 500ml. water bottle off the shelf, pour out some quantity of water, add a drop of the medicine shake it well and your medicine is ready.

gavinimurthy last decade
I forgot to add that you need to mix about 100 ml. of good quality brandy to the bottle, if you want to preserve the medicine for a longer time.

gavinimurthy last decade
Thanks Mr. Murthy.
A followup question if I may:

I completely understand that a 500ml bottle will dilute the pills more than a 250ml bottle. But my primary point of a wet dose was simply to make it reach/touch more nerves faster - so from that perspective, why would I want to dilute it in 500ml? (I am asking because I just happen to have several crates of 250ml water in my house - I can always combine them, but I don't understand why I should, considering the objective of my wet dose). This particular person I am administering to does not have any known reaction/sensitivity to dry doses or homeopathy in general.
aske123 last decade
You can use 250 ml. bottles. No problem.

gavinimurthy last decade
I use 250 ml primarily because we use 500 ml for drinking. So, it is understood in my household not to use the 250 ml bottles for drinking purposes. (I always label the bottles immediately with the remedy, potency and date, but differentiating between 250 and 500 is another safety measure.

If I want to carry the bottle with me for the day, 250ml is more convenient.

You don't have to run out. As the water nears the end of the bottle, add more water and succuss and you are good to go (don't add any more pellets). Chances are, though, you will not have taken so many doses that you will run out.
Daisy43 last decade
Ok thanks.
aske123 last decade
Mr Murthy,

Is it necessary to add alcohol to wet dose?

Will it be sufficient if we keep it in the Refrigirator, assuming that the medicine will be used only for 1-2 weeks?

I have this question becuase some people do not like the smell of spirit.

For them, can they use the bottle without spirit for one week and then throw it away and prepare one more bottle?

BTW, if spirit/alchohol is mandatory, where do we get the spirit which can be added to the wet dose?

chiru71 last decade
Alcohol is not at all mandatory.It is suggested just to preserve the medicine for longer periods.

If you want to use it for a week or so only, no need to add alcohol.

Make sure that the fridge is odorless.

gavinimurthy last decade
If you need to store for a long time, any good quality Brandy available in wine shops is good enough.

gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Murthy

finally I came accross some good clear instructions for wet dose, I've been confused over this as there are varying views, as always!

I thought the original idea of wet dose Hahneman introduced (I could be wrong) was to slightly change the dose each time taken therefore patient's vital force is better stimulated?

I would like to ask you, I am a 'sensitive' type and do aggravate after even the first dry dose 30c, and always take a 200c in dilution and watch and wait. Would the wet dose benefit me moreso than the dry dosing of 30c for acute conditions (and in acute remedy is as much of my nature as possible, not just physical symptoms). I'm currently taking homoepathic black cohosh and have had 3 dry doses 30c in 24 hours, I feel I'm having aggravation already and probably should not continue the prescription which was for 7 days. In future do you think someone like me would benefit wet dose? I'm confused though, wouldn't a 30c in wet dose shaken each time a dose is taken only raise the dosage slightly thereby more likely to cause more aggravation? Would I perhaps need to split dose??!

Thanks for your valuable time.

desertrose last decade
Hi Rose

A split dose is what you need. The 'quantity' of dose being more than required is generally the cause for aggravations. So by mixing one drop of the medicine in about 500 ml. of water, you are in effect reducing the 'physical quantity'.

The gradual incremental rise in potency that you get by succussing is not going to harm. On the other hand it helps in avoiding aggravations.

Remember that Hahn. kept on reducing the 'physical quantity' of the dose just to avoid aggravations and brought out the concept of 'divided' dose (the 'split' dose as we call it) in the 5 th edition of Organon.

Whether it is a split dose or a dry dose always remember to stop taking the medicine if one of these three things happen and consult your homeopath.

a) You get an aggravation of 'existing' symptoms

b) You get 'appreciable' amelioration.

c) you get new troublesome symptoms you never had earlier.

gavinimurthy last decade
Thanks alot for this Murthy makes sense.

I will discontinue the doses I've taken, I've only had 3 dry doses of a 30c but last night insommnia was aggravated to point of sleeplessness (as in picture rem of cimicifuga racemosa). Dr. Mahfooz kindly gave me this script for 3x per day, for a week. Is one day enough? In law of homeopathy surely aggravation, as you said, means stop!

Thanks again, Rose
desertrose last decade

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