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yeah, i guess the 'protocol' is pretty individualized.
i take the unda numbers + 1 or 2 other drops, depending on the phase, in the am/pm and then there's a drop every night at bedtime + the tablet every other night at bedtime.
because mine are liquids, i'm supposed to take them at least a minute apart. i guess so they get absorbed separately.
hmm, are you more withdrawn because you're calmer and quieter? some of the changes i've noticed are pretty subtle.
i hope things start to come together for you. out of curiosity, did you notice any change in this with the corpus callosum pellets (phase 3, i think)? i was taking that daily before the brain protocol and found it helped me feel more centered about communicating, and i had an easier time verbalizing my thoughts and emotions.
i take the unda numbers + 1 or 2 other drops, depending on the phase, in the am/pm and then there's a drop every night at bedtime + the tablet every other night at bedtime.
because mine are liquids, i'm supposed to take them at least a minute apart. i guess so they get absorbed separately.
hmm, are you more withdrawn because you're calmer and quieter? some of the changes i've noticed are pretty subtle.
i hope things start to come together for you. out of curiosity, did you notice any change in this with the corpus callosum pellets (phase 3, i think)? i was taking that daily before the brain protocol and found it helped me feel more centered about communicating, and i had an easier time verbalizing my thoughts and emotions.
quickclaude 2 decades ago
I think I'm more withdrawn because I've been sad lately. As I understand it, the dr. is having me use the protocol to "draw me out" more and make me more communicative.
I'm sure that most of the changes are pretty subtle! I seem to have had more mood changes than I did the last time I did just the three phases.
I just finished phase 3 last week, and I do think I was more communicative. That has not been the case in week 4 so far.
I have never taken corpus callosum other than in this protocol, but your comments are encouraging to me. Although I am a very organized person by nature, I tend to bury thoughts and emotions and mull them over without expressing them.
I'm sure that most of the changes are pretty subtle! I seem to have had more mood changes than I did the last time I did just the three phases.
I just finished phase 3 last week, and I do think I was more communicative. That has not been the case in week 4 so far.
I have never taken corpus callosum other than in this protocol, but your comments are encouraging to me. Although I am a very organized person by nature, I tend to bury thoughts and emotions and mull them over without expressing them.
needhelp 2 decades ago
lots of things shifting around. i've noticed that, too. not always for the best. with phase 3, i've been noticing weird neurological problems, like spaciness, dyslexic typing, etc. i go to see the ND today, so we'll see what she says.
i'm not shy, but i tend to be introverted and not seek out people or conversations. the corpus callosum was great stuff for me. i think i took 3 200C pellets once a day, and it eliminated my depression (it was mild), and helped me feel more like being open with people.
are you supplementing your homeopathic work with psychotherapy? i've been doing that, and they've been good complements.
i'm not shy, but i tend to be introverted and not seek out people or conversations. the corpus callosum was great stuff for me. i think i took 3 200C pellets once a day, and it eliminated my depression (it was mild), and helped me feel more like being open with people.
are you supplementing your homeopathic work with psychotherapy? i've been doing that, and they've been good complements.
quickclaude 2 decades ago
By "lots of things shifting around," do you mean moods? I also experienced spaciness, and I'm feeling it more since I transitioned from week 4 to week 5 (DHA supplement only). I also feel dizzy and somewhat "antsy" or agitated.
The ND strongly recommended psychotherapy, so I've been going for about 5 months now. I feel like a failure at it, since it's so difficult for me to open up. I don't quite know what to do about it. Maybe as I progress through another cycle of the protocol, it will help me. I don't have to see the ND again for about two months.
I hope your appointment went well! How often do you see the ND?
The ND strongly recommended psychotherapy, so I've been going for about 5 months now. I feel like a failure at it, since it's so difficult for me to open up. I don't quite know what to do about it. Maybe as I progress through another cycle of the protocol, it will help me. I don't have to see the ND again for about two months.
I hope your appointment went well! How often do you see the ND?
needhelp 2 decades ago
shifting: i mean moods and also all the effects that the protocol seems to stir up. i just notice lots of subtle changes in my body/brain as i go along. last week i was very angry, but it's dissipated. strange isn't it? it's hard to just relax and go with the flow, but that seems to work best for me.
that last time i saw my ND was about 4 months ago, at the beginning of the second time through. i've corresponded through email with her in the meantime with questions and checked in at the end of every phase. all was relatively well, so she just told me to continue to the next phase.
on this visit, she felt like i had a more positive response to phase 2 this time through, and that i've gotten what i need from that segment. so i'm to repeat phase 3 again because it looks like (due to the neuro-symptoms) i still have something to gain from that phase. she told me that those symptoms mean that my body's altering, which indicates that the phase is still needed. after phase 3 this time, she said we're going to give my body a break for a while.
some people recommend splitting phase 3 into 2 parts. apparently, i've been doing your phase 3&4 together as my phase 3. she was going to discuss this with unda and let me know if i should split them up this time or take both parts together again.
i think it took me about 9 months or so of psychotherapy before i started to feel like i was making progress. hang in there. soon you'll probably start making connections between events, emotions, causes and effects. it might not happen during your scheduled hour, but if you keep going, it should start to happen.
that last time i saw my ND was about 4 months ago, at the beginning of the second time through. i've corresponded through email with her in the meantime with questions and checked in at the end of every phase. all was relatively well, so she just told me to continue to the next phase.
on this visit, she felt like i had a more positive response to phase 2 this time through, and that i've gotten what i need from that segment. so i'm to repeat phase 3 again because it looks like (due to the neuro-symptoms) i still have something to gain from that phase. she told me that those symptoms mean that my body's altering, which indicates that the phase is still needed. after phase 3 this time, she said we're going to give my body a break for a while.
some people recommend splitting phase 3 into 2 parts. apparently, i've been doing your phase 3&4 together as my phase 3. she was going to discuss this with unda and let me know if i should split them up this time or take both parts together again.
i think it took me about 9 months or so of psychotherapy before i started to feel like i was making progress. hang in there. soon you'll probably start making connections between events, emotions, causes and effects. it might not happen during your scheduled hour, but if you keep going, it should start to happen.
quickclaude 2 decades ago
I am trying to be aware of my moods or responses without reacting to them...just acknowledging that this is part of the process...whatever that means for me!! I also feel angry at times, but it's pretty brief. Still, it surprises me.
Well, if what I'm feeling means my body is altering, there must be quite a bit of that going on! :) I'm sure you're probably ready for a bit of a break. How long will you be on phase 3 this time?
That's interesting about breaking the phases into two parts. I can't remember everything in phas
Well, if what I'm feeling means my body is altering, there must be quite a bit of that going on! :) I'm sure you're probably ready for a bit of a break. How long will you be on phase 3 this time?
That's interesting about breaking the phases into two parts. I can't remember everything in phas
needhelp 2 decades ago
I am trying to be aware of my moods or responses without reacting to them...just acknowledging that this is part of the process...whatever that means for me!! I also feel angry at times, but it's pretty brief. Still, it surprises me.
Well, if what I'm feeling means my body is altering, there must be quite a bit of that going on! :) I'm sure you're probably ready for a bit of a break. How long will you be on phase 3 this time?
That's interesting about breaking the phases into two parts. I can't remember everything in phas
Well, if what I'm feeling means my body is altering, there must be quite a bit of that going on! :) I'm sure you're probably ready for a bit of a break. How long will you be on phase 3 this time?
That's interesting about breaking the phases into two parts. I can't remember everything in phas
needhelp 2 decades ago
I'm so sorry...my laptop seems have a mind of its own sometimes! What I meant to say was that I don't remember everything in phase 4 right now, but it's interesting that the phases can be combined as well.
Thanks for the encouragement about psychotherapy. This is somewhere I never thought I'd be. I feel very uncertain about the whole process, but I know it is probably an important part of my overall treatment. If I start making connections between events, emotions, etc., then what happens? Then I'm aware of it and not doomed to repeat causes & effects??? I don't really understand the theory of change in psychotherapy.
Thanks for the encouragement about psychotherapy. This is somewhere I never thought I'd be. I feel very uncertain about the whole process, but I know it is probably an important part of my overall treatment. If I start making connections between events, emotions, etc., then what happens? Then I'm aware of it and not doomed to repeat causes & effects??? I don't really understand the theory of change in psychotherapy.
needhelp 2 decades ago
it does sound like you're experiencing lots of changes, and that's great. it would seem that all those symptoms are a good sign. i found it really helpful to make notes at the end of each phase. that made it easy to look back and see when i was experiencing something new from the same phase.
i've been doing this since december and am so ready to take a break.
i don't understand exactly why psychotherapy changes you. in my own experience, i've become more in touch with myself and have a deeper understanding of my behavior patterns and causes of them. it's almost like through understanding my issues, they have much less of a hold on me than they used to. i'm very much the same person as before, but i've broken out of that cycle of repeating the same unhealthy patterns over and over. i feel like i'm unpeeling all these onion layers of myself. for some weeks or months, there'll be nothing happening at all, and then other times, i get many huge realizations at once.
i truly believe that the brain protocol has helped me tremendously in this regard, as i've really felt everything coming together since last winter. (even though it hasn't always felt like it while i've been in the middle of it.)
i've been doing this since december and am so ready to take a break.
i don't understand exactly why psychotherapy changes you. in my own experience, i've become more in touch with myself and have a deeper understanding of my behavior patterns and causes of them. it's almost like through understanding my issues, they have much less of a hold on me than they used to. i'm very much the same person as before, but i've broken out of that cycle of repeating the same unhealthy patterns over and over. i feel like i'm unpeeling all these onion layers of myself. for some weeks or months, there'll be nothing happening at all, and then other times, i get many huge realizations at once.
i truly believe that the brain protocol has helped me tremendously in this regard, as i've really felt everything coming together since last winter. (even though it hasn't always felt like it while i've been in the middle of it.)
quickclaude 2 decades ago
I hadn't considered experiencing something new from the same phase. I'm repeating phase 1 now, so I'm a bit worried that I'll start to feel drained and spacy again. I usually have those feelings only the first time through a new phase, though.
It seems like you deserve a break! When my ND mentioned doing the protocol for 6 months, I was a bit surprised (and worried about the cost), so I'll be interested to see how it goes and if things change in therapy.
Do you discuss any of the ND's treatments with friends or family? If so, are they supportive?
How did you get to the point where you don't repeat patterns anymore? Is it very obvious to you, so you just change your behavior accordingly? (I thought that's what cognitive behavioral therapy accomplishes.) Or are you more deliberate or analytical in your thinking??
How often do you see your therapist? I go once/week, but she has mentioned a few times that she thinks twice/week would be more helpful. I'm not sure what to do.
It seems like you deserve a break! When my ND mentioned doing the protocol for 6 months, I was a bit surprised (and worried about the cost), so I'll be interested to see how it goes and if things change in therapy.
Do you discuss any of the ND's treatments with friends or family? If so, are they supportive?
How did you get to the point where you don't repeat patterns anymore? Is it very obvious to you, so you just change your behavior accordingly? (I thought that's what cognitive behavioral therapy accomplishes.) Or are you more deliberate or analytical in your thinking??
How often do you see your therapist? I go once/week, but she has mentioned a few times that she thinks twice/week would be more helpful. I'm not sure what to do.
needhelp 2 decades ago
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